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Saturday, March 15, 2008

N.Y. Post: HANK STEINBRENNER: PAPELBON A ‘MOUSE’ (RR)

As the deadly bantavirus spreads!

Hammerin’ Hank fired back yesterday.

“Being insulted by Papelbon is like being attacked by a mouse,” Steinbrenner told The Post.

“John Henry and I traded a couple of jabs good-naturedly,” he added. “So now, all of a sudden, this player, this 20-something kid who really doesn’t know his way in the world, comes out with a personal insult. There’s no excuse for that.”

When was the last time you saw Derek Jeter criticize an owner? Steinbrenner did add that Papelbon “is one great pitcher.” And he’d love to have him on his team.

“It was nothing personal against John [Henry], nothing personal against Larry [Lucchino], nothing personal against [Terry] Francona, nothing personal against the team or the fans,” Steinbrenner said. “It was just a general comment that is the truth. I respect the Red Sox and their fans, but the Yankees are the most popular team in American sports. Ask Jerry Jones in Dallas, he’ll tell you that. That’s why they want to do business with us. So it’s just a fact.”

Repoz Posted: March 15, 2008 at 12:04 PM | 36 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Belfry Bob Posted: March 15, 2008 at 01:02 PM (#2713229)
"I really have nothing more to say about the Red Sox the entire season," he said. "We've covered that ground and, basically, I'm tired of talking about them."

"...I'm a shipbuilder, and I'm going to leave running the team to the baseball people."
   2. OCD SS Posted: March 15, 2008 at 01:15 PM (#2713233)
Mouse vs Fruitbat.
   3. Joe Bivens Recognizes the Kenyan Precedent Posted: March 15, 2008 at 01:33 PM (#2713240)
Ask Jerry Jones in Dallas, he’ll tell you that.

Jerry Jones can't be trusted.
   4. Joe Bivens Recognizes the Kenyan Precedent Posted: March 15, 2008 at 01:34 PM (#2713241)
Mike Lupica's publisher advertises his new book on BTF? HA! Good luck with THAT!
   5. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: March 15, 2008 at 02:37 PM (#2713256)
Hammerin' Hank is taken -- how 'bout Yammerin' Yank?
   6. Exploring Leftist Conservatism since 2008 (ark..) Posted: March 15, 2008 at 02:48 PM (#2713258)
Hammerin' Hank is taken -- how 'bout Yammerin' Yank?


Spread the word!
   7. Darren Posted: March 15, 2008 at 03:09 PM (#2713263)
You tell him that NO YANKEE IS EVER COMING TO TEXAS WHILE YOU BASTARDS ARE RUNNING THINGS DOWN THERE!
   8. Law Boy Posted: March 15, 2008 at 03:25 PM (#2713273)
Will all these people just shut up?
   9. Hubie Brooks (Not Really) Posted: March 15, 2008 at 03:38 PM (#2713282)
The Rays are the real rivls, the Sox are so 2004.
   10. 1k5v3L Posted: March 15, 2008 at 03:39 PM (#2713283)
I think Hank is confusing Papelbon with Pedroia.
   11. Law Boy Posted: March 15, 2008 at 03:44 PM (#2713286)
The Rays are the real rivls...

Of the Sox? They have had more brawls with them in recent years than the Yankees.
   12. Rafael Bellylard: The Grinch of Orlando. Posted: March 15, 2008 at 03:55 PM (#2713294)
Hammerin' Hank is taken -- how 'bout Yammerin' Yank?


This comment should offically close the thread. No further improvement is possible.
   13. hscs Posted: March 15, 2008 at 04:44 PM (#2713313)
When was the last time you saw Derek Jeter criticize an owner?


2003.
   14. Xander Posted: March 15, 2008 at 04:54 PM (#2713317)
They've had 3 incidents with them post-Henry, IIRC:

- Kazmir hitting two batters in a row and getting thrown out. Not a real big deal, but the benches might have cleared.
- The Arroyo game where one of their whack pitchers threw at Ortiz's head after Arroyo hit someone (Huff?) and Jay Payton hit a grandslam later in the game (that bears no relation to the brawl, but it's such an amazing event it must be noted).
- The Tavarez thing.
   15. baudib Posted: March 15, 2008 at 05:33 PM (#2713325)
You have to admit it will be hilarifying if the Rays beat out the Sox this year.
   16. Joe Bivens Recognizes the Kenyan Precedent Posted: March 15, 2008 at 05:42 PM (#2713329)
Yeah, but it will be pretty hard for the Red Sox to win only 74 games.
   17. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: March 15, 2008 at 06:14 PM (#2713343)
When I think of how hard Hank Steinbrenner has worked to get where he is today, when I think of all the obstacles he's had to overcome, and to have some punk kid insult him, well that gets me a little angry.
   18. Win one for Agrippa (haplo53) Posted: March 15, 2008 at 07:05 PM (#2713354)
The elusive Robert Denby


I love the handle.
   19. Astro Logical Sign Stealer Posted: March 15, 2008 at 07:40 PM (#2713362)
#14-That link doesn't show Jeter going after an owner. It shows Jeter refusing to go after an owner even though he had an excuse to.

"He's the boss and he's entitled to his opinion, right or wrong"
   20. hscs Posted: March 15, 2008 at 08:12 PM (#2713373)
And then Jeter said George Steinbrenner wasn't being "fair." It wasn't excessively critical, but fits all the same.
   21. Law Boy Posted: March 15, 2008 at 08:46 PM (#2713384)
Not in recent years. The real brawls occurred before the Henry era. The Rays hated Pedro and Daubach.


I view 2006 as being very recent.
   22. Joe Bivens Recognizes the Kenyan Precedent Posted: March 15, 2008 at 09:02 PM (#2713388)
One punch = a brawl in your world?
   23. Law Boy Posted: March 15, 2008 at 09:44 PM (#2713413)
One punch = a brawl in your world?

Is your world definition free?

1 : to quarrel or fight noisily


From the linked article:

According to Tavárez, who calmly discussed the incident with reporters (he admitted throwing the punch and stepping on Gathright's forearm), Gathright and Crawford were interested in meting out their own brand of justice. At least that was the message he received while players from both clubs, after separating the two principals, were milling about their dugouts.

''Yeah, they were yelling at me, 'Let's get one and one in the parking lot,' " Tavárez said. ''I'm not going to fight, man. What happened is happened, it's over, and I'm not going to fight nobody.


Notice that there were punches and there was yelling, i.e., to quarrel or fight noisily.

You were saying?
   24. Joe Bivens Recognizes the Kenyan Precedent Posted: March 15, 2008 at 09:45 PM (#2713414)
I was saying that you were an idiot, but I didn't know that you heard me all the way from here. Good. It saved me the trouble from posting it.
   25. Law Boy Posted: March 15, 2008 at 09:51 PM (#2713416)
You were made to look like a fool. Take it like a man.
   26. Joe Bivens Recognizes the Kenyan Precedent Posted: March 15, 2008 at 09:54 PM (#2713419)
Yes, I was enticed to feed a troll. I feel great shame.
   27. Law Boy Posted: March 15, 2008 at 10:00 PM (#2713423)
You are consumed by projection, but I guess that's unsurprising from a person like yourself who lacks self-awareness.
   28. Astro Logical Sign Stealer Posted: March 15, 2008 at 10:03 PM (#2713427)
And then Jeter said George Steinbrenner wasn't being "fair." It wasn't excessively critical, but fits all the same.

Oh for crying out loud, you're really stretching the point. What Jeter said wasn't fair was comparing him to Dennis Rodman, which he didn't say Steinbrenner did. In any case, the best you get out of this whole scenario is Jeter resisting an owner's criticism of Jeter himself, not a player criticizing an owner. This is nothing at all like the Papelbon situation, which is why (the younger) Steinbrenner brought it up in the fist place.
   29. Exploring Leftist Conservatism since 2008 (ark..) Posted: March 15, 2008 at 10:53 PM (#2713451)
I am projecting that no further good will come of this thread.
   30. hscs Posted: March 16, 2008 at 12:55 AM (#2713505)
I'm not trying to stretch it, just disagreeing with the out-of-nowhere Jeter line. It's not like Hank v. Papelbon, but isn't it just a teeny bit revisionist to ignore Jeter finding fault in George Steinbrenner (perhaps indirectly)?
   31. Harry Balsagne Posted: March 16, 2008 at 03:03 AM (#2713533)
Yeah, the Yankees are America's team. All those other teams in the MLB pretty much only exist to develop good players that the Yankees can eventually sign on the FA market. Nobody really likes the Indians or the Angels or the Diamondbacks or the Rockies. It's basically two leagues of Washington Generals; show teams existing for the sole purpose of being utterly dominated by the Yankees.
   32. Dan The Mediocre is one of "the rest" Posted: March 16, 2008 at 03:06 AM (#2713534)
Yeah, the Yankees are America's team.


Let's see...overly inflated sense of purpose...belief they are inherently better no matter what...always sure everyone wants to be them...maybe they really are America's Team.
   33. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: March 16, 2008 at 04:22 AM (#2713551)
I hope the mouse throws a fastball up this jackass's anus
   34. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: March 16, 2008 at 04:43 AM (#2713559)
When I think of how hard Hank Steinbrenner has worked to get where he is today, when I think of all the obstacles he's had to overcome, and to have some punk kid insult him, well that gets me a little angry.

Yammerin Yank is great, but the above is my post of the thread.

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