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Friday, April 25, 2008

N.Y. Times: Glanville: It Gets Late Early Out There (RR)

Another terrific piece by Doug Glanville…(as Lupica squats out another teen novel).

In theory, I had come to the Yankees ready to play ball “from Day One.” The idea that my history didn’t give me the benefit of the doubt was disconcerting. Because there was this younger kid, who played a little better than I did that spring and who would certainly be less expensive. I’d had a bad week, and he’d had a good week, and that made all the difference.

I understood that I was now entrenched on the other side of the bell curve. I was sliding downward into the “long in the tooth” spiked pit. My competition’s relatively minimal major league experience had become more valuable, in a way, than my library of experience. Somehow I had missed the transition point in my career where my value to a team had intersected with the value of a new kid on the block.

There was a time in Philadelphia when, as a young player, I had replaced the veteran Lenny Dykstra as the new center fielder in town, much to the dismay of the Philly faithful. But I felt I had plenty to offer. Maybe I wasn’t as wise as Lenny in terms of game experience, but I thought I made up for it with enthusiasm, newness and energy.

So I understand the cycle.

Repoz Posted: April 25, 2008 at 07:36 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Crashburn Alley Posted: April 25, 2008 at 08:22 PM (#2758831)
Glanville = Win.
   2. Dan Szymborski Posted: April 25, 2008 at 08:31 PM (#2758835)
I'm always amazed at how intelligent Glanville is, definitely one of the smartest people in baseball in my lifetime, but he's also a little deluded about his contributions as a player.

It wasn't that his experience was unappreciated or that his career came down to a couple of at-bats in 2005. If he wasn't so ####### awful in 2000 and 2001 and 2002 and 2003 and 2004, he would've been appreciated a lot more in 2005. Someone without his experience that played as badly as him would've had trouble even sniffing a major league camp after 2002 or so.
   3. Win one for Agrippa (haplo53) Posted: April 25, 2008 at 08:40 PM (#2758842)
Go Quakers!
   4. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: April 25, 2008 at 08:44 PM (#2758844)
It breaks my heart to see he had an OPS+ over 88 only once.
   5. aleskel Posted: April 25, 2008 at 08:45 PM (#2758845)
Because there was this younger kid, who played a little better than I did that spring and who would certainly be less expensive. I’d had a bad week, and he’d had a good week, and that made all the difference.

who do you think he was talking about here? Melky?
   6. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 25, 2008 at 08:58 PM (#2758865)
I’d had a bad week

well, if you define 2000-2004 as "a week", then you've pretty much got it
   7. Toolsy McClutch Posted: April 25, 2008 at 09:05 PM (#2758875)
Wow, that was a great read, all in all.
   8. Matt Waters Posted: April 25, 2008 at 09:16 PM (#2758891)
who do you think he was talking about here? Melky?


Should be Bubba. They were battling for the fourth OF job in spring training of '05. Looking back on it, I wanted Crosby to make the team, but Glanville probably would have been great in the clubhouse. That was an instance of Torre taking an unproven commodity over a veteran, something he did more often than he is actually given credit for. Crosby had a real monster season in Vegas in '03, and despite a pretty bad, though limited, MLB showing in '04, some people still thought he had potential.


This was really good, thoughtful writing by the way. Glanville can really write.
   9. Vance W Posted: April 25, 2008 at 09:47 PM (#2758908)
MLB can use a guy with Glanville's talents....except of course as a player.
   10. Crashburn Alley Posted: April 25, 2008 at 10:08 PM (#2758926)
Doug Glanville would epic pwn everyone on Baseball Tonight.
   11. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: April 25, 2008 at 10:29 PM (#2758941)
Doug Glanville would epic pwn everyone on Baseball Tonight.
I hate to say it, but probably not. This kind of well-reasoned, thoughtful analysis just wouldn't fly on the 30-seconds-to-talk world of BBTN. He'd probably be better than the Kruk/Phillips gang but only by virtue of not being a total dumbass, the format just doesn't allow for anything more.
   12. Crashburn Alley Posted: April 25, 2008 at 10:54 PM (#2758962)
Good point. I stand corrected.
   13. Eric J. Seidman Posted: April 26, 2008 at 12:28 AM (#2759098)
So far I've enjoyed Chris Singleton on BBTN. It's hard for Steve Phillips to give good analysis when he has to save his pearls of wisdom for mock press conferences.
   14. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: April 26, 2008 at 12:29 AM (#2759101)
Clever ploy, Glanville, but she's still not dropping out of the race.
   15. Craig Calcaterra Posted: April 26, 2008 at 01:06 AM (#2759177)
I'll second the Chris Singleton praise. I think he's doing a great job. Unlike all the others, he seems to realize that you don't have to tense up your vocal cords and spew out your opinion in the form of bullet-point outlines. You can just . . .talk.
   16. Eric J. Seidman Posted: April 26, 2008 at 03:44 AM (#2759554)
Singleton just seems natural to me, like Craig said, it's as if he's just having a conversation with the viewer; he gives good information, though, too. Orestes gives good information, in my opinion, but it looks like he's acting. Phillips gives bad information and is acting.
   17. J. Michael Neal Posted: April 26, 2008 at 04:58 PM (#2759722)
Is Curtis Granderson just Doug Glanville who can hit?

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