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Wednesday, May 09, 2007

NY Times: Sosa and Palmeiro Cited in Steroid Investigation (RR)

Investigators of steroid use in baseball are seeking medical records from at least two of the game’s premier sluggers over the past dozen years, Sammy Sosa and Rafael Palmeiro, along with records from dozens of other players suspected of using performance-enhancing drugs, a baseball official with direct knowledge of the request said.

The investigators in the inquiry, headed by the former Senator George J. Mitchell, have also asked the Baltimore Orioles to send medical files relating to Jason Grimsley, David Segui and Fernando Tatis to those players, the official said. The players will then be asked to authorize their release to Mitchell, although they are believed to be unlikely to do so.

These are the first names to be definitively associated with the year-old Mitchell investigation… Other players under Mitchell’s scrutiny have not been publicly identified, although people who have been briefed on the development said that the full list included players expected and unexpected, and that it excluded some players who might have been expected to be on the list of steroid suspects.
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Mitchell investigators interviewed at least nine front office and team officials with the Orioles last summer, including the vice presidents Jim Duquette and Mike Flanagan and Manager Sam Perlozzo.

It could not be determined whether any other teams have had so many people interviewed, or computers searched, or exactly what was sought on the computer files.

NTNgod Posted: May 09, 2007 at 03:24 AM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. HowardMegdal Posted: May 09, 2007 at 04:02 AM (#2359070)
I would hate for the 2007 New Orleans Zephyrs season to be tainted by the Mitchell investigation.
   2. DKDC Posted: May 09, 2007 at 04:02 AM (#2359071)
The most important part for me:

The Orioles...were not asked to release medical records to Miguel Tejada, Jay Gibbons and Brian Roberts...their exclusion showed a lack of evidence against those three players, who are all on Baltimore’s active roster.


This isn't exoneration or anything, but it's good news. I'm willing to believe Tejada and Roberts didn't use. Gibbons is still a stretch.
   3. Halofan Posted: May 09, 2007 at 05:59 AM (#2359123)
...this is turning into a Wimp Hunt.
   4. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: May 09, 2007 at 06:03 AM (#2359124)
####### it, performance enhancing drugs are good!
   5. meatwad Posted: May 09, 2007 at 11:27 AM (#2359176)
what the #### are the medical records going to show them?
   6. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: May 09, 2007 at 11:59 AM (#2359183)
I would hate for the 2007 New Orleans Zephyrs season to be tainted by the Mitchell investigation.


Sad, but no one would care about minor league ball if it weren't for the prospects.
   7. J.C. Bradbury Posted: May 09, 2007 at 12:17 PM (#2359185)
Round up the usual suspects. Why doesn't he just turn to the back of the book to see who did it? Bugs Meany is probably involved.
   8. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: May 09, 2007 at 12:24 PM (#2359189)
what?? no Bonds??

this is no fun
   9. Backlasher Posted: May 09, 2007 at 12:24 PM (#2359190)
what the #### are the medical records going to show them?


That greatly depends on the information they have, but the records could show the physical effects seen from use of the substances.

There is a small contingent on this board that has been advocating a "roid em up and test the survivors." I've got a feeling they are either going to purposely ignore this developing story, or come out citing "privacy concerns" while denying their earlier position.

Depending on what information is contained in the reports, it could also show if there was intentional ostrich conduct by the teams. They also have the computer records; they could determine if investigations or inquiries were made based on changes in physiology.

It could also contain disclosures about products taken. I doubt anyone would put nandrolone down, but they might put down other masking agents. That could lead to information regarding advances in testing or perhaps information leading to other suppliers. They might put down supplements. Its possible that their could be supplement contamination, and that could lead to changes in policy.

It could also show nothing, but this is the investigation stage. One does not need proof beyond a reasonable doubt to conduct an investigation. These records could contain information that will lead to usable information. It does not surprise me that they would want the information. Their authority to get the information does not presently exist. Nevertheless, if they exhaust all available channels and meet roadblocks, then that leads to other possible outcomes:

(1) They could negotiate for those powers in the next CBA.
(2) They can legitimately tell the public, Congress, and anyone else that they have done all they could in their investigation.
(3) It can put pressure on law enforcement authorities, who may have such powers, to take over certain aspects of the investigation (or delegate some new authority to have such powers).

The multiple issues dealing with abuse of performance enhancing substances in sport now has national attention. The next step is usually enabling and empowering enforcement authority. As with any other issue, this is following the normal course. Specific legislation or appropriation to deal with this issue, rather than placing it on the regular docket of Congress or existing law enforcement authorities would be next.
   10. Backlasher Posted: May 09, 2007 at 12:34 PM (#2359197)
####### it, performance enhancing drugs are good!


Well then maybe everyone will cooperate and this panel can prove your assertion, even though it goes against every medical study yet enacted.

Round up the usual suspects.

Other players under Mitchell’s scrutiny have not been publicly identified, although people who have been briefed on the development said that the full list included players expected and unexpected
   11. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 09, 2007 at 03:33 PM (#2359366)
"what the #### are the medical records going to show them?"

Segui is included on the list, and he's claimed in the past that he has a valid prescription for HGH. I'd imagine that the medical records are being sought to confirm or deny similar matters for the other players, and to investigate the legitimacy of any medical diagnoses that resulted in a prescription (documentation of test results, etc.).
   12. The George Sherrill Selection Posted: May 09, 2007 at 07:06 PM (#2359557)
If a baseball player weighs the same as a duck, he must be using steroids.
   13. JC in DC Posted: May 09, 2007 at 07:30 PM (#2359578)
The persecution of Fernando Tatis must stop now!!!1111
   14. retro-shiite Posted: May 09, 2007 at 07:48 PM (#2359591)
The persecution of Fernando Tatis must stop now!!!1111

He should have his 2-grand slam inning taken away.
   15. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: May 09, 2007 at 08:09 PM (#2359625)
1. I think I've changed my mind on the steroid issue. If the whole Orioles team has been using steroids in recent years, then we need to get these substances out of the game immediately.

2. How dishonest is this headline? Leaving aside the fact that the only person who appears to be singling out Sosa and Palmeiro is the reporter himself, the word "cited" doesn't appear to mean anything. A person reading the headline would think there was some finding about Sosa and Palmeiro, or at least some testimony about them. In fact, all that has happened is that they're being investigated... which is pretty much a "duh," since it's an investigation of everyone.

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