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NYBD: Pearlman Discusses HOF Vote, Bagwell, Piazza on Radio

Pearlman in the moooorrrrrning! (Quack Quack).

Last night, Jeff Pearlman of Sports Illustrated joined me to discuss his controversial comments regarding steroids and Jeff Bagwell.

...I also brought up the accusations about Mike Piazza and steroids, citing some reasons why it could be possible that Piazza is not a user. Jeff against believes that Piazza did “more than just Androstenedione, legal in the nineties, and said, in his opinion, that the thought a case for Piazza being clean is “laughable.”

For the record, Pearlman reiterated his position on Jeff Bagwell saying he was “so certain he used steroids from being around that team, era, and researching his Clemens book.” He would go on to tell me that if Bagwell didn’t use then the “world is flat.”When I asked him if Craig Biggio falls into the same category as Bagwell because he played for Houston, a team that he said earlier in the show was hotbed for PED use, he said yes.

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1. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: January 10, 2011 at 03:51 PM (#3727363)

That's some mighty incoherent grammar right there.

2. The Essex Snead Posted: January 10, 2011 at 03:53 PM (#3727364)

Nice to know that Pearlman's opinions are so rock-solid.

3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 10, 2011 at 03:59 PM (#3727368)

He has evidence, but his girlfriend has it right now, and she lives in Canada. You won't be able to find her.

4. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship

Posted: January 10, 2011 at 04:04 PM (#3727372)

He has evidence, but his girlfriend has it right now, and she lives in Canada. You won't be able to find her.

Because she's hiding from THE MAN!

5. The Essex Snead Posted: January 10, 2011 at 04:06 PM (#3727377)

Also, I'm going to pretend that Repoz is giving a Community shout-out in his intro, & not referencing Don Imus.

6. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: January 10, 2011 at 04:26 PM (#3727389)

Which show is better: Community or Parks & Rec?

I would have sworn it was Community until I caught myself up on Season 2 of Parks & Rec. My god has that show improved so much since its first season.

7. spike Posted: January 10, 2011 at 04:56 PM (#3727409)

Silva AND Pearlman on the same radio show? I am surprised it didn't have the same effect as The War Of The Worlds on the general population.

8. Barnaby Jones Posted: January 10, 2011 at 04:57 PM (#3727410)

I never made it to season 2 of Parks, but I love me some Community.

9. William Satterwhite Posted: January 10, 2011 at 05:07 PM (#3727417)

When I asked him if Craig Biggio falls into the same category as Bagwell because he played for Houston, a team that he said earlier in the show was hotbed for PED use, he said yes.

I had been wondering if Pearlman's would be consistent in his beliefs and extend his suspicions to Biggio despite his not fitting the "conventional" idea of a steroid case. It's nice to see that he is at least consistent in this regard.

10. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 10, 2011 at 05:07 PM (#3727418)

Everyone who's opinion's I respect loves Community, and yet I don't find it funny at all.

Parks and Rec began terribly but has grown on me a bit, although they seem to be declining again. Very short peak.

11. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: January 10, 2011 at 05:11 PM (#3727424)

I never made it to season 2 of Parks, but I love me some Community.

Huge mistake. It has literally become an entirely different show. The contrast between season 1 and season 2 is exactly like the change between season 1 and season 2 of The Office -- from a derivative show struggling to find its voice to the Best Comedy On Television.

Ron f**king Swanson, in particular, is becoming an underground culture hero.

12. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship

Posted: January 10, 2011 at 05:31 PM (#3727438)

Also, I'm going to pretend that Repoz is giving a Community shout-out in his intro, & not referencing Don Imus.

I assumed by the way he stretched out moooorrrrrning! it was a tribute to the Imus guy who did the Nixon parody.

13. Infinite Joost (Voxter)

Posted: January 10, 2011 at 05:39 PM (#3727445)

Best Comedy On Television

This is a capital-O Overstatement. Parks and Rec is a nice little show, and it certainly hasn't devolved to the depths that its parent show has, but there's not a hell of a lot going on there, in the end. All the laughs come from one character.

14. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: January 10, 2011 at 05:56 PM (#3727453)

I can't even begin to imagine what 'one character' you're referring to. Rashida Jones (the nurse chick), Aziz Ansari (Tom), Ron Swanson, and the doofy shoeshine guy are all hilarious.

15. Jick Posted: January 10, 2011 at 06:07 PM (#3727459)

Parks and Rec began terribly but has grown on me a bit, although they seem to be declining again.

What's this based on? Season three hasn't started yet, but critics who've seen the first several episodes say it's still hilarious.

My vote for best comedy on TV would be Venture Bros, but who knows when we'll get new episodes. In the meantime, I'll vote for Archer or Louie, depending on which has the stronger second season.

16. Ray (RDP)

Posted: January 10, 2011 at 06:23 PM (#3727477)

Mike Lupica, the Daily News sports section's leading voice, named New York Sportswriter of the Year

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/2011/01/10/2011-01-10_mike_lupica_the_daily_news_sports_sections_leading_voice_named_new_york_sportswr.html

17. cardsfanboy

Posted: January 10, 2011 at 06:29 PM (#3727482)

My vote for best comedy on TV would be Venture Bros, but who knows when we'll get new episodes. In the meantime, I'll vote for Archer or Louie, depending on which has the stronger second season.

considering how much I hate the Office, Parks and Recreation and Community, it's glad to see I have at least one opinion agreeing with someone.

18. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 10, 2011 at 06:48 PM (#3727497)

What's this based on?

Watching TV.

19. Gotham Dave Posted: January 10, 2011 at 07:02 PM (#3727516)

Venture Bros. is all-time great. I'm also a big fan of Metalocalypse, which started out pretty good but became fantastic when it went from 15 to 30 minutes.

Parks and Rec and Community are my favorite live-action sitcoms. 30 Rock used to be up there, and still is some weeks, but it's much more inconsistent than it was two years ago or so.

20. Jick Posted: January 10, 2011 at 07:03 PM (#3727515)

I meant what's the present tense part based on, since there hasn't been a new episode since May.

21. Jick Posted: January 10, 2011 at 07:06 PM (#3727525)

glad to see I have at least one opinion agreeing with someone.

I'm sure there are plenty of Venture fans around here (Gotham Dave, good man), since it's nice and geeky. I think Louie got some love here last summer when he managed to mention Jamie Moyer during sex.

22. Shredder Posted: January 10, 2011 at 07:12 PM (#3727532)

What's this based on? Season three hasn't started yet, but critics who've seen the first several episodes say it's still hilarious.

Yeah, seriously. They haven't aired a new episode in like 10 months. How could it be declining?

23. phredbird

Posted: January 10, 2011 at 08:03 PM (#3727577)

i don't watch a lot of sitcom tv ... none of it resonates with me. every now and then i'll flip on ... oh ... two and a half men, or the office, or the simpsons or arrested development or its always sunny in philadelphia or whatever else is getting good reviews and i'm never amused. i can't last for five minutes.

i had a brief infatuation with seinfeld back in the day. same with curb your enthusiasm. now i don't even bother with either of them.

larry sanders i will watch. rip torn was a genius on that show.

my sense of humor is not current or something.

24. salvomania Posted: January 10, 2011 at 08:17 PM (#3727588)

I agree with you Phred, about the network sitcoms. I watch tons of baseball during the season, which my gf endures, but the tv is hers during the offseason, and occasionally I'll watch what she's watching and I don't understand the appeal of practically any of the sitcoms.

I think The Office is so much inferior to the British original (which I think is great, Gervais is a comic genius) that it's hard to watch. The US boss's biggest flaw among many is that he's really stupid, on top of being bigoted, insensitive, etc., whereas in the BBC version he's all these things except for that he's not stupid, which is more interesting and more funny. Steve Carrell in that show is sort of a live-action Homer Simpson, and I don't find either of them funny.

Loved The Larry Sanders Show, loved Rip Torn (r.i.p.), and of newer stuff a lot of the comments make me think I'd like Sunny in Philadelphia and Venture Bros (mainly because the latter apparently featured Iggy Pop in one episode).

25. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: January 10, 2011 at 08:23 PM (#3727599)

loved Rip Torn (r.i.p.)

Rip Torn is alive and wel... um, anyway, he's alive.

26. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama

Posted: January 10, 2011 at 08:25 PM (#3727600)

I only pick up on sitcoms based on what my wife will watch -- 30 Rock is (or was, haven't seen it recently) entertaining, the Office was good although I agree with salvo, in fact I think Carell is the weakest link on that show.

I've been enjoying the 3 or 4 Big Bang Theorys I've seen. I like how they throw out all kinds of geeky stuff, kind of as asides, which gives another layer to the humor.

27. Why Bloody Valdespin? Posted: January 10, 2011 at 08:31 PM (#3727607)

Rip Torn isn't dead? Am I missing a joke? IFC just started airing the Larry Sanders show. I strongly approve of their TV show choices.

British Office >>>> American Office, but I think the American version is still pretty funny.

28. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: January 10, 2011 at 08:34 PM (#3727612)

It is worth the effort to Google Rip Torn's 2010.

29. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: January 10, 2011 at 08:40 PM (#3727617)

It is a shame that writers will share with us the conclusions without sharing the facts underlying the conclusions. If you saw something or heard something you can't tell us about, then it's irresonsible to publicly draw conclusions about those facts because the players can't respond.

30. The Good Face Posted: January 10, 2011 at 08:56 PM (#3727632)

Venture Bros. is all-time great. I'm also a big fan of Metalocalypse, which started out pretty good but became fantastic when it went from 15 to 30 minutes.

Venture Bros. fan checking in, can't praise that show highly enough.

I like Metalocalypse, but I couldn't disagree more about the episode length. At 15 minutes it was tightly plotted. At 30 it's flabby and aimless, and appears to have lost the main narrative thread. What happened to the metal masked assassin? Is he dead? Where did Offdensen disappear to after the end of season 2 and the start of season 3? What the hell is up with Mr. Selatcia anyway? Still a decent show, but I think the writers are victims of their own success.

31. salvomania Posted: January 10, 2011 at 10:16 PM (#3727703)

loved Rip Torn (r.i.p.),

Sorry about that, for some reason I thought Rip Torn had died recently...

EDIT: While double-checking Torn's "alive" status, couldn't help but chuckle at this entry further down on his Wikipedia page: "While filming Maidstone (1970), Torn, apparently unhappy with the film, struck director and star of the film Norman Mailer in the head with a hammer.[16] With the camera rolling, Mailer bit Torn's ear and they wrestled to the ground. The fight continued until it was broken up by cast and crew members as Mailer's children screamed in the background. The fight is featured in the film.[17] Although the scene may have been planned by Torn, the blood shed by both actors is real, and Torn was reportedly truly outraged by Mailer's direction.[16]

I've seen the clip in question, and it reads better than it looks on screen. Apparently the (very loose) script called for Torn's character to kill Mailer's character, and when Torn tried to get anything more specific than that from Mailer in order to play his role, Mailer told him to shut up and stop bothering him. So Torn improvised....

32. JDLk Posted: January 10, 2011 at 10:25 PM (#3727713)

I've been enjoying the 3 or 4 Big Bang Theorys I've seen. I like how they throw out all kinds of geeky stuff, kind of as asides, which gives another layer to the humor.

My wife picked this up and I have enjoyed it as well. Very good cast chemistry and very funny.

33. Shock Posted: January 10, 2011 at 10:25 PM (#3727714)

Ron Swanson ####### rules.

I agree with the consensus. In Season One it was pretty bleh and I cringed a couple times when Leslie would say something that is *exactly* something that Michael Scott would say. But Season two was excellent and really set it apart in my opinion.

34. Shock Posted: January 10, 2011 at 10:29 PM (#3727718)

On January 29, 2010, Torn was arrested after breaking into a closed Litchfield Bancorp branch office in Lakeville, Connecticut; Torn maintains a residence in the town. He was charged with carrying a firearm without a permit, carrying a firearm while intoxicated, first-degree burglary, second-degree criminal trespassing and third-degree criminal mischief. Connecticut State Police said that Torn broke into the bank thinking it was his home.[14]

Amazing.

35. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: January 10, 2011 at 10:39 PM (#3727721)

I agree with the consensus. In Season One it was pretty bleh and I cringed a couple times when Leslie would say something that is *exactly* something that Michael Scott would say. But Season two was excellent and really set it apart in my opinion.

What makes me cringe now is the thought that people still consider it a pale imitation of The Office. The characters have developed into something completely different (Leslie is now pretty much the anti-Michael Scott: she's super-competent and immensely well-respected by her staff), and what makes the show such a joy in particular is the relationships between them all. None of the usual "everyone hates everyone" mass dysfunctionality you normally see in workplace comedies (The Office being the prime suspect) but a much gentler, more inclusive Midwestern sensibility. How many shows out there portray the sort of mutually supportive boss/employee dynamic you see between Ron Swanson and Leslie Knope? Just one of those quiet little details that make the show so remarkable -- you actually can root for every character. Tom Haverford's another great example: he started off as a thoroughly unctuous sleazebag in Season One, but now we understand the hidden sadness that drives him to affect his "desi player" attitude.

It's a very surreal show with a lot of 'zany' characters, and yet for all that the people on it are far more realistic and plausibly human than anyone on The Office these days.

36. Shock Posted: January 10, 2011 at 11:01 PM (#3727731)

Except Jerry.

37. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: January 10, 2011 at 11:17 PM (#3727735)

Except Jerry.

Well of course. Everybody hates Jerry.

38. billyshears Posted: January 11, 2011 at 12:00 AM (#3727749)

I've been enjoying the 3 or 4 Big Bang Theorys I've seen. I like how they throw out all kinds of geeky stuff, kind of as asides, which gives another layer to the humor.

Every so often I try watching the Big Bang Theory because I keep hearing it's good. Then I watch the show and I wonder what the hell people are thinking. But then again, I enjoy Two and a Half Men.

39. Walt Davis Posted: January 11, 2011 at 12:37 AM (#3727762)

Every so often I try watching the Big Bang Theory because I keep hearing it's good. Then I watch the show and I wonder what the hell people are thinking.

They're thinking: "this show helps me pretend I've got a shot at Kaley Cuoco."

I agree with you but I have to say the show seems surprisingly popular with young women I've met.

But then again, I enjoy Two and a Half Men.

I'd say they're essentially the same show in different settings. I'll grant that Sheldon is a funnier character than Jon Cryer's ... and that kid is now just creepy.

EDIT: and both created and exec produced by Chuck Lorre.

40. billyshears Posted: January 11, 2011 at 12:41 AM (#3727764)

I'd say they're essentially the same show in different settings.

The principle difference may be that Two and a Half Men provides a rotating cast of female characters to leer at, while Big Bang Theory provides one female character to leer at repeatedly. I prefer variety.

41. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: January 11, 2011 at 12:42 AM (#3727765)

I assumed by the way he stretched out moooorrrrrning! it was a tribute to the Imus guy who did the Nixon parody.

Was that Rob Bartlett?

My wife turned me on to "Dr. Katz." Missed it when it came out 15 years ago. It brings me back to listening to the Comedy Hour on WHCN Sunday nites.

42. Greg Goosen at 30 Posted: January 11, 2011 at 01:31 AM (#3727786)

PED use or not, as Mike Francesa will tell you, Jeff Bagwell is not a Hall of Famer.

43. Shock Posted: January 11, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#3727788)

As a computer nerd who has never been interested in comic books, star trek/wars, or anything of that ilk, I hate big bang theory with a passion.

44. Solly Hemus Use Rogaine Posted: January 11, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3727791)

Wasn't Torn blackballed for awhile for having leftist/communist sympathies?

45. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: January 11, 2011 at 02:02 AM (#3727801)

Still a decent show, but I think the writers are victims of their own success.

I feel like Brendan Small is more interested in his fake band which is now a real band than the show itself.

The Big Bang Theory is not a comedy for nerds, it's a comedy for non-nerds who think to themselves, "Oh yes, this is what I imagine nerds are like. Hilarious!"

Community is excellent as long as they stick to the funny and avoid the emotional mush. Lately it's been more of the latter.

Arrested Development is ALL-TIME GREAT.

46. mex4173 Posted: January 11, 2011 at 02:10 AM (#3727805)

The Big Bang Theory is not a comedy for nerds, it's a comedy for non-nerds who think to themselves, "Oh yes, this is what I imagine nerds are like. Hilarious!"

Nerds can enjoy it too, by thinking, "Oh yes, this is what those idiots imagine nerds are like. Hilarious!"

The cast is more talented than most mainstream comedies as well, IMO.

47. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: January 11, 2011 at 02:12 AM (#3727806)

Arrested Development is ALL-TIME GREAT.

True, and yet the third season of AD was pretty much a clusterf*ck. Not truly awful, but such a massively huge drop-off in quality from the first two seasons that I was actually quite glad the show ended when it did. They had totally run out of ideas.

FWIW, my girlfriend and I are prone to shouting "take me with you!" in a kiddie voice in pretty much every possible context we can shoehorn it into. Such is the legacy of "Motherboy."

48. DA Baracus is gritty and hits with RISP Posted: January 11, 2011 at 02:16 AM (#3727807)

Big Bang Theory without a laugh track.

And on the complete opposite end of the spectrum, The Wire with a laugh track.

49. Juan V Posted: January 11, 2011 at 02:17 AM (#3727808)

The enjoyment of Big Bang Theory depends on how annoying Sheldon is in any given episode.

50. tshipman

Posted: January 11, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3727811)

True, and yet the third season of AD was pretty much a clusterf*ck. Not truly awful, but such a massively huge drop-off in quality from the first two seasons that I was actually quite glad the show ended when it did. They had totally run out of ideas.

I don't think it was because they had run out of ideas so much as they saw the writing on the wall that the show was going to be cancelled.

It's hard to do your best work in that environment, so I don't mind so much.

51. Dock Ellis on Acid

Posted: January 11, 2011 at 02:29 AM (#3727812)

Agreed that Community has had a short peak. I like(d) the show a lot better when they're not doing gimmicks or that whole self-aware fourth-wall thing. The cast is outstanding, though.

The dude who plays Sheldon makes The Big Bang Theory worth watching. The show itself is mediocre, but he's my favorite actor/character in sitcom right now, save for perhaps Tracy Morgan.

52. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: January 11, 2011 at 02:55 AM (#3727825)

True, and yet the third season of AD was pretty much a clusterf*ck. Not truly awful, but such a massively huge drop-off in quality from the first two seasons that I was actually quite glad the show ended when it did. They had totally run out of ideas.

I agree with this, although I wonder how much of it was connected to the looming cancellation and tweaks to make it somehow more appealing to a wider audience.

Community is really good. I like its status as a meta-sitcom, I like the chances it takes and the cast is great. On the other hand, I just can't get into Parks and Rec. It feels derivative and dull and the characters are uninteresting on the whole.

Chuck Lorre, the creator of Big Bang Theory and Two and a Half Men, was profiled a few months ago in the New Yorker. That article--a doting fluff piece--, its very existence, made me question why I still read that magazine, which routinely celebrates mediocrity such as Lorre's creations.

53. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: January 11, 2011 at 03:29 AM (#3727834)

The dude who plays Sheldon makes The Big Bang Theory worth watching. The show itself is mediocre, but he's my favorite actor/character in sitcom right now, save for perhaps Tracy Morgan.

This I agree with. Honestly if someone could edit the episodes to be just Sheldon and still keep the plot, it would be a great show. The other characters are not remotely funny. They're standard sitcom material, not very funny. But Sheldon gets the laughs.

However (and I'm catching up so I'm not up to date), but has anyone noticed that they get the science only mostly correct? Like when explaining Schroedinger's cat, Sheldon says that the poison will be released at a random time so you don't know whether the cat is alive or dead until you open the box. But that's not right. It's got nothing to do with random time. The analogy still works, but they just didn't quite get the science right.

EDIT: And while Kaley Cuoco has a great body, I don't find her all that attractive.

54. JJ1986 Posted: January 11, 2011 at 03:41 AM (#3727841)

The third season of AD is my favorite; it got much more bitter and much more openly mocking everything about it.

I watched the first season of Community when it came out on DVD, loved it, but find it does not work at all watching Season 2 week to week. About a third of the episodes are really good, but a lot depends on how they pair up the characters. The Apollo 13 episode this season was incredibly bad.

55. Bob Tufts Posted: January 11, 2011 at 03:47 AM (#3727844)

Ray - Loopy won a Shorty, not a NY Sportswriter of the Year.

56. Shock Posted: January 11, 2011 at 04:04 AM (#3727855)

I watched the first season of Community and liked it fine, but I felt it kind of dried up fast. I haven't been watching this season as much because I'm just bored with it. Not really sure why that is.

Chuck Lorre, the creator of Big Bang Theory and Two and a Half Men,

Did not know it was the same guy behind these. That settles it then. Chuck Lorre and Seth MacFarlane have ruined television.

EDIT: And while Kaley Cuoco has a great body, I don't find her all that attractive.

Agree.

57. Starlin of the Slipstream (TRHN) Posted: January 11, 2011 at 04:18 AM (#3727860)

In my opionion, Arrested Development's lack of characterization made it unlikely to sustain its excellence. Except for George Michael, I just didn't care about those people at all. It's like early middle period Simpsons. The Simpsons still managed to be a good show for a while after it abandoned the characters for gags and situations, but it was the beginning of the end. Good joke writing can only take you so far.

58. The Id of SugarBear Blanks

Posted: January 11, 2011 at 04:30 AM (#3727864)

Alison Brie is much hotter than on either Community or Mad Men, not that there's anything wrong with her on either.

59. Jick Posted: January 11, 2011 at 04:38 AM (#3727867)

Chuck Lorre, the creator of Big Bang Theory and Two and a Half Men, was profiled a few months ago in the New Yorker. That article--a doting fluff piece--, its very existence, made me question why I still read that magazine, which routinely celebrates mediocrity such as Lorre's creations.

I didn't read it that way at all. Letting Lorre speak for himself to such a degree, showing how satisfied he was with all of those awful jokes...that made me realize how awful his shows must be, and any editorializing from the writer would have been unnecessary. The impression I came away with was of a bitter man who feels he deserves significantly more critical acclaim than he actually deserves.

Then again I was predisposed to hate the guy, so it's almost certain I read more inherent criticism into it than was intended.

60. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: January 11, 2011 at 05:15 AM (#3727881)

Then again I was predisposed to hate the guy, so it's almost certain I read more inherent criticism into it than was intended.

Ha! I probably thought there wasn't enough criticism for the same reason. I felt the writer went out of his way to defend Lorre's shows. Also, Lorre's process and world view was treated as this interesting thing, which I feel it isn't. I don't know. Maybe it was the choice of subject in the first place.

61. Jick Posted: January 11, 2011 at 05:46 AM (#3727891)

I went back and flipped through it, and there are parts to feed both interpretations. Here's the very end, after a couple of paragraphs about how they had to dumb down a joke and triple its word count because the studio audience didn't get the original:

It was, I thought, terrible: clunky, wordy, and marred by a rhythmically meretricious repetition of the word "long." But when King delivered the line, with a slight backward look and a little kick to her rump on that second "long," the audience exploded. It was a good line, after all. Lorre, for once, did not laugh, but stared contentedly at his monitor.

I read this as, "Hey, that wasn't even especially funny in the first place, and still they had to gut it to appeal to the lowest common denominator. What is wrong with this country, and why is Chuck Lorre endorsing such stupidity?"

With other parts of the piece, I definitely see where you're coming from, in how the article (Tom Bissell's the writer) seems to side with Lorre's view that he's doing the world a favor by creating a place on television where people can turn off their minds and unwind.

(If anyone else cares, here's the link to the abstract: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/12/06/101206fa_fact_bissell )

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