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Thursday, January 10, 2013

NYT: Baseball to Expand Drug-Testing Program

As Sheehan said…“HGH testing? May as well test for Pez for all HGH does”

The expansion of baseball’s drug-testing program puts the sport substantially ahead of the National Football League, which still does not test for H.G.H. and does not have a comparable testosterone test. The N.F.L. and its players union said in 2011 that they had agreed to blood-testing for H.G.H., but since then the union has expressed reservations and no testing protocol has been established.

The new testing in baseball will allow Commissioner Bud Selig to again argue that his sport, which was faulted for initially moving far too slowly to address the issue of performance-enhancing drugs, now has the toughest testing program of any of the professional leagues in North America.

The expanded testing also comes on the heels of an awkward moment for baseball — the announcement on Wednesday that no players on the 2013 ballot for the Hall of Fame had received the 75 percent support needed to gain induction. The hundreds of baseball writers who cast ballots rejected the first-time candidacies of Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens because of their direct links to performance-enhancers, underlining the lingering damage that the issue of drugs is inflicting on the sport.

 

Repoz Posted: January 10, 2013 at 02:53 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: January 10, 2013 at 03:11 PM (#4344312)
And hundreds of posts on how HGH doesn't work...go!
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 10, 2013 at 03:26 PM (#4344329)
So are NFL writers going to be pricks to players from this era like baseball writers have been? I mean, Clay Matthews may play a HOF-level career, but he played college ball with known PED user Brian Cushing, so HOW DO WE KNOW? Did Mathews stand up and say something about PED use at the time? What is to explain how a former walk-on becomes a Pro Bowl NFL linebacker? QUESTIONS ABOUND.
   3. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: January 10, 2013 at 03:32 PM (#4344339)
This is a really big deal, and it's not the hGH component. MLB is finally instituting longitudinal testing which, while imperfect, represents a quantum leap forward in anti-doping efforts. Prior to this, the testing regime was beginning to get calcified, as it was geared towards "steroid era" PED usage. Strong drug testing protects the integrity of the game by keeping public trust and attempting to keep a level, natural playing field.

This is really big, welcome news.
   4. JJ1986 Posted: January 10, 2013 at 03:36 PM (#4344344)
So are NFL writers going to be pricks to players from this era like baseball writers have been? I mean, Clay Matthews may play a HOF-level career, but he played college ball with known PED user Brian Cushing, so HOW DO WE KNOW? Did Mathews stand up and say something about PED use at the time? What is to explain how a former walk-on becomes a Pro Bowl NFL linebacker? QUESTIONS ABOUND.


There's at least one possible Hall-of-Famer who was suspended for PED use a decade ago. I wonder if anyone even notices when he hits the ballot.
   5. Dale Sams Posted: January 10, 2013 at 03:37 PM (#4344345)
It also helps if it makes trying to cheat more trouble than it's worth.
   6. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: January 10, 2013 at 03:42 PM (#4344353)
It seems like MLB is striking a good balance with aggressive testing and firm, but not death penalty level punishment.
   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 10, 2013 at 03:44 PM (#4344356)

There's at least one possible Hall-of-Famer who was suspended for PED use a decade ago. I wonder if anyone even notices when he hits the ballot.


Who is this? Shawn Merriman?
   8. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: January 10, 2013 at 03:48 PM (#4344358)
Julius Peppers?
   9. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: January 10, 2013 at 03:57 PM (#4344363)

There's at least one possible Hall-of-Famer who was suspended for PED use a decade ago. I wonder if anyone even notices when he hits the ballot.


The other night, Fergie Jenkins (I think) added credence to the rumor that there's an HOF-inducted juicer who played in the 80's and 90's. I think Robothal or Olney reported something similar a few years back, too.
   10. just plain joe Posted: January 10, 2013 at 04:44 PM (#4344419)
So are NFL writers going to be pricks to players from this era like baseball writers have been?


Doubt it; isn't is just assumed that the vast majority of football players are juicing, one way or another?
   11. smileyy Posted: January 10, 2013 at 04:48 PM (#4344424)

Doubt it; isn't is just assumed that the vast majority of football players are juicing, one way or another?


Presumably steroids make them able to hit each other harder and more often.

In baseball, some cheaters break some records, and there's not enough ink to write about it.
In football, some cheaters contribute to brain damage and death, and there's not a word said about it.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 10, 2013 at 05:13 PM (#4344450)

In baseball, some cheaters break some records, and there's not enough ink to write about it.
In football, some cheaters contribute to brain damage and death, and there's not a word said about it.


It seems like offensive records in the NFL are being broken every year.
   13. John Northey Posted: January 10, 2013 at 05:16 PM (#4344454)
Football isn't sport, it is gladiator arena modern style. If a few guys die at a young age or are disabled so be it. Drugs? Who cares. As I recall someone won rookie of the year, was found to have used drugs, they did a re-vote and he won again. Football writers/fans/owners and even players don't seem to care much about drug use in that sport. They do some testing but I suspect it is more like the initial MLB drug testing - a cloak to say 'we are doing it' when they really aren't.

I really, really hope someone who is in the HOF will just admit to using steroids and get the whole 'we must not let them in' thing over with. We'd have one or two more years of it but at least we'd see an end in sight. Instead we can expect moralizing for the next decade I suspect.
   14. AROM Posted: January 10, 2013 at 06:06 PM (#4344509)
The other night, Fergie Jenkins (I think) added credence to the rumor that there's an HOF-inducted juicer who played in the 80's and 90's.


He did no such thing. He merely repeated the rumor.

   15. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: January 10, 2013 at 06:17 PM (#4344519)

He did no such thing. He merely repeated the rumor.


Jenkins gave credence in the sense that he explained that it's been a topic of discussion amongst Hall of Famers (again, one 80s+90s player in particular), and he did not exactly go out of his way to dispel it.
   16. Alex Vila Posted: January 10, 2013 at 07:03 PM (#4344550)
I wonder if they had to wait until Marvin Miller passed away?
   17. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: January 10, 2013 at 07:15 PM (#4344558)
If they actually wanted to remove players from the HOF for Steroid use, there would be more than a few Steelers that would be removed. I think it was said during the 70's the whole O-line was jucing.
   18. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: January 10, 2013 at 07:16 PM (#4344559)
In baseball, some cheaters break some records, and there's not enough ink to write about it.
In football, some cheaters contribute to brain damage and death, and there's not a word said about it.


No one cares about football players beyond how they played last Sunday.

OTOH, the single-season and career HR records are sacrosanct.
   19. Cabbage Posted: January 10, 2013 at 11:37 PM (#4344708)
There isn't anyone who has sat on the Football HOF selection committee and has a HOF vote, is there?

I think it would be very interesting to have some sort of sportswriter roundtable about PEDs that features HOF voters from both sports.
   20. Ron J2 Posted: January 11, 2013 at 10:36 AM (#4344879)
#13 Junior Seau suffered a debilitating brain disease likely caused by two decades worth of hits to the head.

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