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Saturday, October 06, 2012

Keh: Terry Collins Has Not Paid A Big Price for Losing

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For another autumn and winter, stable amid the rubble of another collapsed Mets season will stand Terry Collins, the team’s fiery manager, who has pulled off a noteworthy feat in presiding over two straight losing seasons while staying mostly free from blame or reproach.

At least in recent memory, no leader of a troubled sports team in New York has enjoyed the apparent sympathy and overall perception of job security that Collins has during his tenure in Queens. And as the Mets’ 2012 season hobbled to its conclusion last week, votes of confidence again rang out.

...Throughout sports, managers and head coaches who are disciplinarians are met with the same enthusiasm as those who are more relaxed types — as long as the wins are there. In the case of the current Mets, there may come a time soon enough when the loose and often playful vibe of the clubhouse becomes linked to the team’s chronic inconsistency and sloppiness. There may come a time, too, when commentators, and fans, begin to ask if Collins is really the one to get the most out of the team’s roster, however limited it may be.

But that has not happened yet. Last September, the Mets picked up their option on Collins’s contract for the 2013 season. Last week, the Mets announced that the entire coaching staff would return next year. Alderson said the second-half slump this season had “more to do with the players than it does with the manager or the coaching staff.” But whether Collins will be extended beyond next year, Alderson would not say. “We haven’t had those discussions and we may not for a while,” he said.

Repoz Posted: October 06, 2012 at 09:25 PM | 3 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: October 07, 2012 at 02:24 AM (#4257571)
I get the feeling that the Mets are waiting for 2014 to be competitive. Their young pitching will be more established, Bay and Santana will be off the books so the Mets will finally have some money to spend. I think they'll keep Collins until 2013 and then get a new guy. It'll feel like a new start for the franchise. Obviously, any plan that depends on young pitching is risky but that's what I think the plan is.

Collins has been a good solider for the franchise but he hasn't really done anything that makes me feel he deserves to keep the job. Sure, the team wasn't supposed to be that good but they haven't been better than expected either. He isn't part of the problem but he really isn't part of the solution.
   2. zachtoma Posted: October 07, 2012 at 05:31 AM (#4257585)
Managers who largely live up to low expectations are never the first guys to go, and the Mets have been mired in low expectations for the past couple years. I gotta say, it's been hilarious watching this franchise fall apart after the 2006 squad that went to the NLCS and showed so much promise.* Well, except for the Wilpon/Madoff fiasco, that sordid affair tested the depths of even my twisted heard and pulled out a drop of sympathy for Mets fans.

*Ever hear announcers say of the LCS losers after a tough series: "well, these guys will be here again"? That was said a lot of those Mets and I also remember it being thrown around when the 2007 Indians lost to the Red Sox. Needless to say, neither of those teams has made a playoff appearance since.
   3. Lassus Posted: October 07, 2012 at 07:04 AM (#4257591)
Collins has been a good solider for the franchise but he hasn't really done anything that makes me feel he deserves to keep the job. Sure, the team wasn't supposed to be that good but they haven't been better than expected either. He isn't part of the problem but he really isn't part of the solution.

Right or wrong, I think he's probably getting more credit for the first half than blame for the second half.

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