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Wednesday, May 21, 2014

Obama pops in on Little League game

The president paid a surprise visit Monday to Washington’s Friendship Park, where a handful of teams were warming up for the big game. Stepping onto the field in a tie but no jacket, Obama shook hands with the players and posed for photos with each team.

Shocked parents reached for their smartphones to snap a quick photo, but not all of their kids were as impressed. Some held back, unsure of who Obama was, as their parents tried to lure them back onto the infield to join the president.

“Daddy, let’s just play,” said one young boy, pulling his father by the hand.

Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 21, 2014 at 01:40 PM | 102 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: May 21, 2014 at 01:54 PM (#4710813)
“Daddy, let’s just play,” said one young boy, pulling his father by the hand.

Somebody's getting an IRS audit next spring...
   2. Gonfalon B. Posted: May 21, 2014 at 01:57 PM (#4710815)
The liberal media is covering up the fact that Obama is a belly-itcher. But you can't fool a kid.
   3. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 21, 2014 at 02:09 PM (#4710829)
“Daddy, let’s just play,” said one young boy, pulling his father by the hand.


Regardless of political affiliation, that kid has his head on straight.
   4. dr. scott Posted: May 21, 2014 at 02:10 PM (#4710830)
The White House notes the visit comes before Obama is scheduled to travel to Cooperstown, N.Y., on Thursday to speak at the Baseball Hall of Fame. That visit is focused on boosting U.S. exports, including tourism.


See, I learned something today. Tourism is considered an export. I cant imagine Cooperstown, however, is much of an export... I've only been once, but I don't remember a lot of foreign tourists.

   5. Traderdave Posted: May 21, 2014 at 02:29 PM (#4710847)
The main reason I ruled out running in 2016 is what a PITA daily life is for the Chief Executive. Can't toss a ball in the park, can't slide by your favorite taco truck, not to mention never going to a ballgame & watching 9 innings.
   6. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: May 21, 2014 at 02:32 PM (#4710854)
25 years or so from now, Obama will be considered one of the greatest presidents in history. He'll be near the top of the second tier -- behind Washington and Lincoln but probably ahead of Reagan/FDR/Kennedy. Why?

1) First black president.
2) Nothing makes an ex-president look better than time. Hell, even GWB is (re-)gaining in popularity these days.
3) Nostalgia. If people can look back fondly on the godawful 70s, certainly they will about the 2010s.
4) Things will almost certainly be a whole lot worse in 2040 than they are now. Luckily, I'll probably be gone by then. (Death panels, anyone?)
   7. Rusty Priske Posted: May 21, 2014 at 02:44 PM (#4710865)
The fact that people consider Reagan a good president is proof.

I remember when he was the sitting president and things weren't so positive then.
   8. Davo Dozier Posted: May 21, 2014 at 02:51 PM (#4710870)
Stepping onto the field in a tie but no jacket


What is this, prep school?
   9. Depressoteric Posted: May 21, 2014 at 02:52 PM (#4710871)
Folks, we have a political thread for a reason.

Seriously.
   10. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: May 21, 2014 at 02:53 PM (#4710872)
The White House notes the visit comes before Obama is scheduled to travel to Cooperstown, N.Y., on Thursday to speak at the Baseball Hall of Fame. That visit is focused on boosting U.S. exports, including tourism.


I was running a marathon this past Sunday in southern Vermont, and my calves were killing me the final mile or so, so I ended up having to walk for a few minutes, next to another guy in the same boat. I asked him where he was from, and he told me he is a physician who was born and raised just outside of Cooperstown, still lives in the area, practices in Oneonta. Probably a 45-year-old guy, athletic guy.

I made the mistake of immediately asking him what everybody asks him: "You must love baseball, right?" He was really nice about it, but he was like, "Actually, I love most sports, but baseball is probably my least favorite of the major sports. I went to the Museum when I was a kid, and I thought is was the most boring place ever...and I've never visited it again. I mean, who wants to see a bunch of old gloves and uniforms?"

I have to say: If somebody was coming from far away to visit Cooperstown, they would have a good time eating, visiting shops, golfing, boating, stay at a nice B&B, going to the Ommegang Brewery, etc. But I'm not sure visiting the actual HOF Museum is one of the first half-dozen things I would recommend to them...it's pretty dry...
   11. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 21, 2014 at 02:53 PM (#4710873)
I'm probably not the only one to read that hed as "Obama pops up in Little League game."

I guess he's lucky Mitch Williams didn't have the opposing pitcher throw at him.

At least he made contact, though.
   12. Traderdave Posted: May 21, 2014 at 02:55 PM (#4710876)
Nothing makes an ex-president look better than time


Not to quibble, as that's mostly true, but there are exceptions. Carter's personal reputation has soared since leaving office -- he's approaching Mother Teresa levels of adulation -- but his Presidency is still seen as a failure, and that view hasn't softened.
   13. Justin T., Director of Somethin Posted: May 21, 2014 at 03:04 PM (#4710890)
Nothing making an ex-president look better than time doesn't do much to propel Obama to right behind the all-timers if it makes all of them look better.
   14. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 21, 2014 at 03:06 PM (#4710895)
I remember when he was the sitting president and things weren't so positive then.

The "sabermetric" response would note that in the 1980 & 1984 elections Reagan received 489 & 525 electoral votes, and in the 1988 election to succeed him, Reagan's Vice President received 426 electoral votes. Looks like the voters had a different view.
   15. BDC Posted: May 21, 2014 at 03:07 PM (#4710897)
I cant imagine Cooperstown, however, is much of an export

They tried loading the town onto 18-wheelers and shipping it to Montreal, but it stunk on ice.
   16. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: May 21, 2014 at 03:08 PM (#4710898)
Carter's personal reputation has soared since leaving office -- he's approaching Mother Teresa levels of adulation -- but his Presidency is still seen as a failure, and that view hasn't softened.


His grandson is about to be elected governor of Georgia.
   17. simon bedford Posted: May 21, 2014 at 03:12 PM (#4710903)
is the backlash against mother teresa something that doesnt play south of the border? her repuation has taken somewhat of a beating as of late
   18. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: May 21, 2014 at 03:18 PM (#4710915)
her repuation has taken somewhat of a beating as of late


Really? Why?
   19. simon bedford Posted: May 21, 2014 at 03:39 PM (#4710945)
friends with every tin pot dictator you can name, she took first class air line tickets and supported vocally the likes of Poppa Doc, her centers were exposed later as being centers of misery not of help, several ex nuns of her order have been very vocal about the more unpleasent side of her work, people like penn gillette and hutchins did scatching shows and talks on her, and there are a couple of books that deal with the very dark side of her "charity"
   20. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 21, 2014 at 03:59 PM (#4710982)
I've seen criticisms of Mother Teresa but not a whole heck of a lot. I'd be shocked if the great majority of people did not view her positively. Penn Jillette and Chris Hitchens are not exactly a murderer's row of critics.
   21. simon bedford Posted: May 21, 2014 at 04:03 PM (#4710989)
there was a best selling book on the subject, which i cant remeber the damn name of, but up here in canada where john paul the seconds obit was an open critique from start to finish ( starting with his condemnation of oscar romero and moving on from there) its the kind of play some folks get


the obit i saw on cbc news, the national news station
   22. Batman Posted: May 21, 2014 at 04:09 PM (#4711002)
When I was a kid, Grover Cleveland interrupted two non-consecutive Little League games.
   23. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: May 21, 2014 at 04:25 PM (#4711016)
Taft could interrupt two games at once.

Also, if Chris Hitchens disliked Pol Pot I'd be inclined to give the Cambodian ########## a second look. Hitchens is one of the least incisive and insightful "intellectuals" in recent history.

   24. simon bedford Posted: May 21, 2014 at 04:44 PM (#4711043)
the Lancet and Stern also did hatchet jobs on her "charity" work, i didnt realize people were unaware of her um weird habits...ugh no pun intended
   25. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: May 21, 2014 at 04:55 PM (#4711056)
is the backlash against mother teresa something that doesnt play south of the border? her repuation has taken somewhat of a beating as of late

Coming out against Mother Teresa is kind of like coming out against puppy dogs or the flag, or like a Canadian parliamentarian taking up a crusade against hockey or the metric system. Since there's absolutely no upside to it for any public figure, and lots of possible downside, it's a case that's never likely to make it beyond the fringes. Whether or not what Hitchens said about her may be justified is neither here nor there.
   26. simon bedford Posted: May 21, 2014 at 05:01 PM (#4711065)
i dont see it, she was buddy buddy with papa Doc and the albanian dictator, and the statements she made shouldnt go without comment
also the studies into her missionary work suggest that almost nothing was spent on care and all of it was spent on recruiting efforts
   27. Nats-Homer-in-DC Posted: May 21, 2014 at 05:36 PM (#4711099)
Checked the URL in the browser. No, I'm still at baseballthinkfactory.org, not dailykos. Is this a burstnet error?
   28. Depressoteric Posted: May 21, 2014 at 05:44 PM (#4711102)
Checked the URL in the browser. No, I'm still at baseballthinkfactory.org, not dailykos. Is this a burstnet error?
Wander into any given month's OT:Politics thread sometime...it's a mutant hellspawn fusion of the DailyKos (90%) and LewRockwell.com (10%).
   29. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: May 21, 2014 at 05:45 PM (#4711105)
Wander into any given month's OT:Politics thread sometime...it's a mutant hellspawn fusion of the DailyKos (90%) and LewRockwell.com (10%).


Wah.
   30. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 21, 2014 at 05:45 PM (#4711106)
i dont see it, she was buddy buddy with papa Doc and the albanian dictator


Piffle.

Where did she stand regarding Steve Garvey, the DH & airline seating, not to mention succulent raw beef crawling with maggots?
   31. simon bedford Posted: May 21, 2014 at 05:51 PM (#4711110)
pro garvey, anti dh, she flew first class usually so seating was a non issue ( and she was short) not sure she ate meat, and certainly never on fridays
   32. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: May 21, 2014 at 05:59 PM (#4711113)
In the 1980 & 1984 elections Reagan received 489 & 525 electoral votes

Reagan won both New York and California...twice. No Republican will do this again (even once) in my lifetime.

(Jimmy Carter's) grandson is about to be elected governor of Georgia.

Carter is trailing the incumbent by about six points.
   33. Depressoteric Posted: May 21, 2014 at 06:35 PM (#4711131)

(Jimmy Carter's) grandson is about to be elected governor of Georgia.
You have to be pretty ####### divorced from reality to think this statement is true. Oh wait...it's Sam H.
   34. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 21, 2014 at 06:47 PM (#4711138)
Reagan won both New York and California...twice. No Republican will do this again (even once) in my lifetime


Well...there you go again....

   35. simon bedford Posted: May 21, 2014 at 06:51 PM (#4711141)
Mr. President, you said, 'There you go again.' ... You remember the last time you said that? ... You said it when President Carter said you were going to cut Medicare, and you said, 'Oh, no, there you go again, Mr. President.' And what did you do right after the election? You went out and tried to cut $20 billion out of Medicare. And so when you say, 'There you go again,' people will remember this, you know ... And people will remember that you signed the biggest tax increase in the history of the United States ... You've got a $260 billion deficit. You can't wish it away.
   36. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 21, 2014 at 07:07 PM (#4711148)
Can tell you from an overseas prospective that Obama will be remembered very fondly.
Got got handed a big bag of sh*t both domestically and where foreign policy was concerned and has managed to get some things turned around. The loans to GM and such to prop them up, since paid off. Obamacare, Bin Laden, withdrawal from Iraq.
Not sure how all that plays on main street USA; wall street looks pretty healthy, but it plays very well from an overseas prospective.

GW Bush, not so much. I remember when GW was in Sydney for a G20 or something meeting and as his motorcade speed down George St. in the middle Sydney there was a guy with a placard which you could see quite clearly from all the news reports; placard said:
Somewhere a village has lost it's idiot.
Opinion of him has not changed.
   37. Zach Posted: May 21, 2014 at 07:11 PM (#4711150)
25 years or so from now, Obama will be considered one of the greatest presidents in history.

Unlikely. There's a significant chance he will go 0 for his last six years in office, and the first two years aren't looking too hot in retrospect.

I don't think I've ever seen a presidency run out of gas faster than Obama's second term.
   38. Bhaakon Posted: May 21, 2014 at 07:14 PM (#4711151)
25 years or so from now, Obama will be considered one of the greatest presidents in history. He'll be near the top of the second tier -- behind Washington and Lincoln but probably ahead of Reagan/FDR/Kennedy. Why?


I've always wondered how the presidents would be ranked on an objective scale of accomplishments. I think the public we have the pre-TV ones nailed down with some accuracy (especially since, for a long, long time, it was the fashion for presidents to do as little as possible), but things start getting dicey once we get to JFK. Nixon in particular is an interesting case.
   39. Zach Posted: May 21, 2014 at 07:31 PM (#4711154)
To take the partisan element out of #37, I don't see how you could fairly rank Obama ahead of Clinton, let alone great on an absolute scale. Both of them got handed severe rebukes two years into their first term, but Clinton managed to have a significant role and even significant successes dealing with a Republican Congress. Obama just quit. Everything since then has been marred by bad execution, inattention to detail, and bad personal relations with basically everyone who doesn't report directly to him.
   40. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: May 21, 2014 at 07:35 PM (#4711155)
1) First black president.

I've said this before and I'll say it again: Obama is biracial. His mother and his mother's family were white.

It's wrong to apply the old despicable, racist "one drop rule" to people.
   41. Gonfalon B. Posted: May 21, 2014 at 07:48 PM (#4711159)
I don't think I've ever seen a presidency run out of gas faster than Obama's second term.

You sure? Not ever?

George W. Bush claimed a mandate and a surplus of political capital in November 2004. He immediately set out on a doomed coast-to-coast tour pushing Social Security privatization. In March, he nominated John Bolton as United Nations ambassador; Bolton stalled for five months until he became a recess appointment. In April, he was unable to convince Congress to allow drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge. Political attention was focused on the Terri Schiavo fiasco. In July, his Supreme Court nomination of crony Harriet Miers was D.O.A. The price of oil more than doubled between November 2004 and August 2005, which was also when Hurricane Katrina hit. I believe the administration's "heckuva job" ineptitude was more damaging to Bush's fortunes than anything else during his time in office. In less than a year, Bush's Gallup favorability plunged from +13 in the aftermath of his 2004 win to -17 in the aftermath of Katrina. It never recovered.
   42. spike Posted: May 21, 2014 at 07:54 PM (#4711161)
His grandson is about to be elected governor of Georgia.
Chickens, counting, hatch etc. But I am more optimistic then I've been in a long time, I concede.
   43. Zach Posted: May 21, 2014 at 07:59 PM (#4711163)
...Bush's Gallup favorability plunged from +13 in the aftermath of his 2004 win to -17 in the aftermath of Katrina. It never recovered.

Fair points, all. But the Iraq War was the focal point of the 2004 election, and Bush maintained enough influence to launch the surge in 2007. When the financial crisis hit, he had enough influence to launch TARP. Even though I hated TARP, the ability to pass it through Congress in a crisis situation meant that his presidency could still respond to events and shape public policy. Obama is well on his way to having nothing to show for his second term.
   44. Zach Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:03 PM (#4711164)
If you were grouping presidents, I think you'd have trouble placing Obama and Bush very far apart. They're both partisan presidents in a partisan era, who got elected by mobilizing their base and ran into trouble by overestimating their mandates. Basically, liberal and conservative variations on the same theme.
   45. Bhaakon Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:12 PM (#4711169)
who got elected by mobilizing their base and ran into trouble by overestimating their mandates.


Does a mandate from a national election even mean anything anymore? It seems like the last decade or so has been about congresspeople (and representatives especially) figuring out that the only people they have to answer to are their constituents, and doing so exclusively.
   46. Baldrick Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:14 PM (#4711170)
Fair points, all. But the Iraq War was the focal point of the 2004 election, and Bush maintained enough influence to launch the surge in 2007. When the financial crisis hit, he had enough influence to launch TARP. Even though I hated TARP, the ability to pass it through Congress in a crisis situation meant that his presidency could still respond to events and shape public policy. Obama is well on his way to having nothing to show for his second term.

Um, I'll take the second term that doesn't involve escalating a terrible war or the prospect of financial ruin.

I mean, second terms are usually pretty dull. And frankly, if you're looking for big signature accomplishments, presidents in general are pretty dull. That stuff is really rare in our system and it has very little to do with the individual case of the president. I don't think Obama is a great president or anything. But we have a system set up which basically makes it impossible to be a great president unless you face catastrophe. That's the only thing that gives the executive enough power to burst through the coagulation.
If you were grouping presidents, I think you'd have trouble placing Obama and Bush very far apart. They're both partisan presidents in a partisan era, who got elected by mobilizing their base and ran into trouble by overestimating their mandates. Basically, liberal and conservative variations on the same theme

This is...not correct.
   47. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:17 PM (#4711173)
I've always wondered how the presidents would be ranked on an objective scale of accomplishments.

Well, the six highest budget deficits in U. S. history were all under Obama, and he's on pace to add to that.
   48. Bhaakon Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:20 PM (#4711175)
Well, the six highest budget deficits in U. S. history were all under Obama, and he's on pace to add to that.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the congress set the budget? And isn't running a huge deficit typical of a recession economy? I find this less problematic/more excusable than the previous presidents' (notice the plural) inability to significantly close the deficit in boom times.

Which is one of the big intrinsic problems with ranking presidents: they actually don't have all that much power over events in comparison to the other branches of government and simple contingency.
   49. Baldrick Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:27 PM (#4711179)
Well, the six highest budget deficits in U. S. history were all under Obama, and he's on pace to add to that.

Oh good lord. Tell me some things, will you?

1. Are you aware that inflation exists - and that numbers need to be judged accordingly?
2. Are you aware that the deficit is actually falling quite quickly? The 2014 deficit will be under 3 percent of the GDP, compared to almost 10 percent in 2009.
3. Are you aware that deficits are caused by recession? And is there any reason to think that Obama caused the recession which began before he was in office?
4. What, in particular, do you think ought to be cut from the budget in order to shrink the deficit?
5. Why are deficits bad?
   50. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:27 PM (#4711180)
The historical view of Obama will rest on the ACA. If it's still around and at least arguably successful in 30 years, his legacy will be able to point to something very big and important. And he will be remembered as getting it accomplished despite a highly partisan environment. Nothing foreign policy wise is looking to stand out in a major historical way, good or bad.
   51. Baldrick Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:30 PM (#4711182)
I mean, look, I'm happy to listen to lots of complaints about Obama - and I have plenty of my own. But 'he didn't do enough to cut spending' is just madness. One of the biggest errors of his presidency was underestimating just how much the government needed to spend, and overestimating the value of reducing the deficit in the midst of a strong recession.
   52. Zach Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:37 PM (#4711186)
I agree about the basic futility of ranking presidents, but I think it is useful to look at the basic, bread and butter mechanics of governance. Are legislative compromises being made? Are announced goals being acted upon, and are they being achieved? Are policies which have previously been enacted being implemented well, and are they working well or badly?

I also think that you have to take your personal feelings about the policies out of the picture to some extent. Obamacare could objectively be a success even if I hate it, or a failure even if I love it. But if it's implemented poorly and dissolves into a chaotic mess, you have to blame the person in charge of executing the laws.
   53. Morty Causa Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:44 PM (#4711190)
Yes, most everyone, including the previous president and his secy of treasury and Alan Greenspan and Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, advocated spending. Is this textbook de rigueur? Krugman, too. Much more spending than was done. The Great Recession tracks the Great Depression in this regard. The government could never get its act together and come to a political consensus to effect a coherent policy along concerted lines. Sometimes this, sometimes that was the result instead, and although calamity was avoided, it had the effect of extending a grungy malaise.
   54. bobm Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:47 PM (#4711192)
FTFA

[Photo:] President Barack Obama throws out a baseball as he makes a unannounced stop to surprise members of the Northwest little league baseball teams at Friendship Park in Washington, Monday, May 19, 2014.


I cannot confirm that after pitching ball 4, Obama told the batter, "if you like first base, you can take it."
   55. Morty Causa Posted: May 21, 2014 at 08:53 PM (#4711195)
Actually, Obamacare is quite an achievement in political terms. Usually to enact a far-reaching radical program, you need an executive with an overwhelming majority in Congress. Think LBJ and the Great Society/Civil Rights or FDR and all his programs--even Nixon and the federalization of state assistance programs for the aged and disabled that became SSI had that--although that's funny strange because in that case it wasn't his party.
   56. Nats-Homer-in-DC Posted: May 21, 2014 at 10:05 PM (#4711218)
54: while plotting a hidden ball trick
   57. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: May 21, 2014 at 10:17 PM (#4711225)
Folks, we have a political thread for a reason.

They can't help themselves, Eso. Bush! More government spending! All that's needed is some kvetching about the Koch brothers.
   58. Lassus Posted: May 21, 2014 at 10:18 PM (#4711226)
FOR MOTHERFUCK'S SAKE, PEOPLE, AS ESOTERIC SAYS - WE ALREADY HAVE AN OT POLITICS THREADS - TAKE IT OVER THERE
   59. Gonfalon B. Posted: May 21, 2014 at 10:30 PM (#4711233)
I say the Tonkin Gulf deserved what it got.
   60. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: May 21, 2014 at 11:06 PM (#4711255)
Geez, Lassus, you didn't have to yell. A polite scolding next time, perhaps?
   61. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: May 21, 2014 at 11:18 PM (#4711259)
I've copied and pasted the last four comments here over to the OTP May thread. Y'alls can now continue this one over there for maximum efficiency's sake, or something.
   62. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: May 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM (#4711264)
Trying to change gears a little bit....

1) What currently-active major leaguer would make the best candidate for major office after retirement?
2) Which current manager?
   63. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: May 21, 2014 at 11:31 PM (#4711267)
I'm all for quarantining the political arguments, but what do you people expect to find in a thread with Obama in the title and no mention of any players or teams any of us know of? A discussion of the various effects caused by the dimensions of Friendship Park (a stadium which really should be in Mario Super Sluggers, with smiling stars falling from the sky and sunbeams randomly scorching fielders)?

Also, when I was 12 or so, Whitey Ford came to my summer baseball camp and watched me hit a home run off his grandson. I didn't really know who Whitey Ford was at the time, but in retrospect, it's a fun little story to have. I imagine that's how most of these kids felt and will eventually feel.
   64. Shredder Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:17 AM (#4711284)
I've said this before and I'll say it again: Obama is biracial. His mother and his mother's family were white.
This is as technically correct as it is entirely irrelevant.
Stepping onto the field in a tie but no jacket
Must not have been pitching that day.
   65. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:24 AM (#4711287)
1) What currently-active major leaguer would make the best candidate for major office after retirement?
If we're just talking about winning elections, then Jeter, of course.
2) Which current manager?
Bruce Bochy. Terry Francona.
   66. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:25 AM (#4711288)
Doubled.
   67. Accent Shallow Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:28 AM (#4711290)
We've already had the "most athletic President when in his prime" conversation, right? It's Gerald Ford, or possibly one of the more accomplished horsemen, right?
   68. Bhaakon Posted: May 22, 2014 at 01:01 AM (#4711304)
If we're just talking about winning elections, then Jeter, of course.


I find this humorous, given how scandalous it would be if a sitting politician--even a single one--was found distributing tasteful gift baskets to their parade of one night stands.
   69. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 07:37 AM (#4711322)
Can tell you from an overseas prospective that Obama will be remembered very fondly.

I nearly choked on my tea reading this comment from HJR.

Talk today to any country's foreign service officer east of the Elbe (well, Putin (a.k.a. Karla 2.0) will probably remember this White House fondly) or anywhere in the Middle East (not including Teheran, of course) and you'll hear pretty much the exact opposite sentiment of what you wrote and they were saying at the beginning of the Obama presidency.

His grandson is about to be elected governor of Georgia.


If he wins, which remains doubtful, Nathan Deal will be the reason why, not the grandpa.

Alright, NOW we can take the conversation over to OTP.
   70. villageidiom Posted: May 22, 2014 at 08:21 AM (#4711328)
I find this humorous, given how scandalous it would be if a sitting politician--even a single one--was found distributing tasteful gift baskets to their parade of one night stands.
Wait, I thought we were supposed to find that classy.
   71. villageidiom Posted: May 22, 2014 at 08:24 AM (#4711330)
Who is the most famous person you ever met through Little League?

As far as I can tell nobody famous came to any of our games, or played in the league when I was in it. At an end-of-the-year awards banquet one season there was an appearance by Rico Petrocelli, maybe 3 or 4 years after he retired. That's about it for me.
   72. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: May 22, 2014 at 08:45 AM (#4711339)
I'm not saying Obama will necessarily deserve to have a high ranking, just that he probably will, for the reasons I outlined.

I've said this before and I'll say it again: Obama is biracial. His mother and his mother's family were white.

This is as technically correct as it is entirely irrelevant.


It'll be interesting to see what will happen if a "fully black" person becomes President. (Actually, wasn't Clinton the first black president?)
   73. a fatty cow that need two seats (cough, cough) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:05 AM (#4711346)
they were saying at the beginning of the Obama presidency


Is this similar or different to the consensus that his presidency was a failure after 100 days?
   74. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:10 AM (#4711349)
Stepping onto the field in a tie but no jacket


What about pants?
   75. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:25 AM (#4711356)
What about pants?


It is a little known fact that Option J is actually taken from an early draft of the ACA.
   76. BDC Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:25 AM (#4711357)
Calvin Coolidge was a bit of a beast at medicine ball and Indian clubs. Best baseball player was 41, I reckon. Taft for sumo.
   77. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:27 AM (#4711358)
Who is the most famous person you ever met through Little League?


A bunch of us went to Jerry Remy's baseball camp through something the league sponsored. I met Remy, Yaz and a bunch of other players. My favorite part though was learning how to block pitches from an actual Major League catcher! Yes, that's right Roger LaFrancois taught me the proper technique to block pitches.

Other than that the best I did was my local state rep whose son was on my team. Good field, no hit ballplayer. Nice kid though.
   78. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:29 AM (#4711360)
I'll add that one of the kids I grew up with went on to play minor league hockey for several seasons. Also a friend batted against Jason Bere in high school. He went 0 for 3 with two strike outs and a weak grounder back to the mound. He said that 1-3 ground out was the best at bat of his career.
   79. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:29 AM (#4711361)
They can't help themselves, Eso. Bush! More government spending! All that's needed is some kvetching about the Koch brothers.

The first political comment in this thread was from a conservative.
   80. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:33 AM (#4711364)

The first political comment in this thread was from a conservative.


Who ####### cares? Maybe we should start talking soccer here too? Anyone have any thoughts on Luis Suarez' injury? That's a big loss to Uruguay. With Cavani and Forlan they can cover for it but it would hurt to lose him.
   81. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:33 AM (#4711367)
Is this similar or different to the consensus that his presidency was a failure after 100 days?

Huh? What does that have to do with the price of tea in Dan Evensen's previous residence? Again, nearly every diplomat described above was tickled pink when Obama was sworn into office.* Today, good luck finding more than a handful of these folks saying anything good about his foreign policy.

* To be sure, a majority of Israeli FSAs were very concerned.

EDIT: I guess this is as good as place as any to shout "Mazal Tov, Maccabi Tel Aviv, Euroleague basketball champs!"
   82. Canker Soriano Posted: May 22, 2014 at 10:50 AM (#4711398)
Who is the most famous person you ever met through Little League?

Charles Schulz. He came to a college in our town when I was a kid, and they invited him to come out and watch kids playing baseball when he wasn't on a panel or whatever he was doing there. So he came to one of our games and made little sketches.

Somewhere, someplace in my parents' house, there is a cartoon of me pitching a baseball drawn by Charles Schulz. I kind of wish I knew where it was...

(There's also a drawing of me done by Bil Keane from Family Circus, but that's less relevant here.)
   83. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: May 22, 2014 at 10:59 AM (#4711401)
Who ####### cares? Maybe we should start talking soccer here too? Anyone have any thoughts on Luis Suarez' injury? That's a big loss to Uruguay. With Cavani and Forlan they can cover for it but it would hurt to lose him.

I care if the politicization of the thread is being blamed on the evil lefties. More to the point, who ####### cares if this thread gets political? It's an article about Obama. If you don't want politics, don't click on it.
   84. kthejoker Posted: May 22, 2014 at 11:02 AM (#4711404)
Who is the most famous person you ever met through Little League?


One of my coaches knew Mrs. Biggio so we had both Craig and Luis Gonzalez at a team barbecue once.

For some stupid reason I used my dads old Bobby Richardson signature glove to play center field, but Craig was pretty stoked about it and signed it under Bobby's name.
   85. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 22, 2014 at 11:17 AM (#4711408)
Who is the most famous person you ever met through Little League?

José Cardenal.
   86. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 11:20 AM (#4711409)
Who is the most famous person you ever met through Little League?


Ummm ... uhhh ... my coach's dad was one of the head guys at the hardware store in town.
   87. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM (#4711416)
Paul Blair was reportedly at Opening Day one year because his kid played for a team in the other half of our league, but his presence went unconfirmed by me.

My best friend from those days ended up pitching a couple of seasons in the minors, but he wasn't famous then or now.
   88. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: May 22, 2014 at 11:46 AM (#4711424)
Our DC Walter Johnson League had two famous names associated with it.

The sponsor of our team was later locked up for bookmaking and got himself in the paper, and that's when we all discovered "Maggie's" real name. We all knew he had to be an Eye-tal. (smile)

Oh, and the league's head umpire was later "exposed" as a child molester, and yet in those uncaring times our parents didn't react by locking us all up in terror.

As for famous associations, the brother of a teammate once stole Mickey Mantle's cracked bat out of the Yankees' dugout in Griffith Stadium, and 30 years later wound up as one of Mantle's golfing buddies down in Dallas.
   89. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: May 22, 2014 at 11:54 AM (#4711427)
Wander into any given month's OT:Politics thread sometime...it's a mutant hellspawn fusion of the DailyKos (90%) and LewRockwell.com (10%).

And it's about 15-20 or so dedicated Kossacks who account for almost that entire 90%.
   90. Eddo Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM (#4711433)
Who is the most famous person you ever met through Little League?

Jack Perconte.
   91. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:11 PM (#4711434)
Wander into any given month's OT:Politics thread sometime...it's a mutant hellspawn fusion of the DailyKos (90%) and LewRockwell.com (10%).


And it's about 15-20 or so dedicated Kossacks who account for almost that entire 90%.

Christ, Joey, at least get the spelling right. It's Cossacks, not "Kossacks".

And even with the correct spelling, the Cossacks are a curious group to associate with a bunch of leftists, considering that the Cossacks were one of the major anti-Bolshevik forces in the Russian Civil War, and were later marked by Lenin for liquidation. Seems to me that they sound more like your kind of people.
   92. a fatty cow that need two seats (cough, cough) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:27 PM (#4711444)
Huh? What does that have to do with the price of tea in Dan Evensen's previous residence?


Whoops, missed that important 'opposite' in your sentence. Disregard and enjoy this good writeup of 2014 Jason Bere:

For Jason Bere, no regrets over career that could have been

Life is good, though. This November, Bere, 42, and his high school sweetheart Dinelle (Erwin) will celebrate their 20th wedding anniversary. They live in North Andover with their son, Dauson, 16, and daughter Colby, 14.

"I was 24-7 before I got married. The next year (1995) I went 8-15," jokes Bere. "But I think that had more to do with the elbow."

Bere grimaced through a 1995 season of worsening pain in his right elbow that led to Tommy John surgery the following year. "If I could have changed anything, I would have done that surgery right away," says Bere. "I foolishly waited."

Otherwise, he has no regrets. "I was extremely fortunate I got to play as long as I did," says Bere, who despite his injuries pitched 11 seasons in the big leagues, finishing with a lifetime record of 71-65.

Bere is now a special assistant to baseball operations for the Indians, the organization he was with at the end of his playing career. He was with Triple-A Buffalo in 2005 when persistent pain in his surgically repaired right shoulder forced him to retire at age 33.

Bere's duties now include advising Cleveland's top prospects on being proper professionals. He acts as a sounding board. He mentors kids without talking about himself. "They aren't going to remember me," says Bere. "It's not like I was a household name. It's not like it's (Roger) Clemens talking to them. Quite frankly I was a 36th-round draft pick, initially there to fill a roster in rookie ball, who with good coaching and hard work took off from there."
   93. simon bedford Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:30 PM (#4711448)
remember tarus bulba? it has a cossack father and son team played by yul bryner and tony curtis, those two really looked related.
   94. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:33 PM (#4711450)
Who is the most famous person you ever met through Little League?


Carl Hiaasen. I coached his kid one year.
   95. Nats-Homer-in-DC Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:37 PM (#4711452)
And even with the correct spelling, the Cossacks are a curious group to associate with a bunch of leftists, considering that the Cossacks were one of the major anti-Bolshevik forces in the Russian Civil War, and were later marked by Lenin for liquidation. Seems to me that they sound more like your kind of people.


My peoples are the peasants and kulaks, who just want to be left alone by the corrupt power-hungry royalists and the corrupt power-hungry communists and the modern day equivalents of each, so we can get on with discussing the game of lapta.
   96. Publius Publicola Posted: May 22, 2014 at 01:13 PM (#4711481)
Christ, Joey, at least get the spelling right. It's Cossacks, not "Kossacks".


It's a pun. DailyKos, Kossacks. Get it?
   97. Austin Kearns: The Spy Who Shagged Flies Posted: May 22, 2014 at 03:23 PM (#4711618)
Who is the most famous person you ever met through Little League?


Linda Tripp's son was on my little league team way back when, so I must have met her at some point.
   98. Gonfalon B. Posted: May 22, 2014 at 03:28 PM (#4711625)
That wasn't Linda Tripp you met, it was John Kruk.
   99. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 03:34 PM (#4711633)
Or Chris Farley.
   100. Austin Kearns: The Spy Who Shagged Flies Posted: May 22, 2014 at 03:36 PM (#4711635)
That wasn't Linda Tripp you met, it was John Kruk.


Luckily for me, he was nicer to little leaguers than his future teammate.
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