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Wednesday, August 08, 2012

O’Connell: Yanks’ late rally falls short

And if you sit by the phone long enough…you’ll get called out on the carpet by Jack O’Connell.

The Yankees’ second loss in two nights at Detroit was their 12th in the past 18 games and eighth straight loss in one-run games.

It would have been a very satisfying finish if the Yankees had completed the comeback. There is no more annoying situation to watch in baseball than Jose Valverde closing out a game. He is the anti-Mariano Rivera, taking forever to deliver the ball and going through all sorts of gyrations. Why it is that umpires let him get away with all that stuff is beyond me to comprehend.

So to see him have to sweat through what should have been a cookie of a save was a pleasure. The key at-bat was a nine-pitch duel won by Raul Ibanez, who walked with two out to push Eric Chavez, who had singled with one out, into scoring position and bringing the potential tying run to the plate.

Repoz Posted: August 08, 2012 at 07:08 AM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. TomH Posted: August 08, 2012 at 08:59 AM (#4202998)
I like <snark> how he uses failure/success with runners in scoring position to dissuss Hughes; and then notes, without apparently realizing how it makes the point somewhat irrelevant, that the Tigers were scoring runs withOUT runners in scoring position by pounding big hits. Ya know, "scoring position" was a very important concept in 1912. Not so much in 2012, especially for a team like the NYY who rely on big flies.
   2. fra paolo Posted: August 08, 2012 at 09:00 AM (#4202999)
If my calculations are right, yesterday increased Valverde's ERA against the Yankees from 5.54 to 5.79 (obviously in a very small sample size, 14 innings.

It looks like he only converts about half of his save opportunities when facing the New Yorkers.
   3. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: August 08, 2012 at 09:06 AM (#4203006)
The Orioles are 4.5 back now. It could be a more interesting September than any of us imagined.
   4. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: August 08, 2012 at 09:29 AM (#4203020)
The Orioles are 4.5 back now. It could be a more interesting September than any of us imagined.
Perhaps this will end up being my RDP "It was always over" moment, but I just can't get myself worked up about Baltimore. For one thing, of course, they just aren't that good (there's only three teams with a worse run differential in the entire AL) and for another they have a tough closing stretch: more than a quarter of their remaining schedule is at Detroit, Texas, Oakland, Chicago or the Yankees. Obviously the Yankees need to get their #### together, but I just can't see Baltimore making a serious run.

Tampa worries me more, but unless the Yankees keep losing 2 of 3, I don't think it's going to be much of a September for the AL East.
   5. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: August 08, 2012 at 09:36 AM (#4203023)
The Orioles are 4.5 back now.

And Detroit's only a half-game back of the White Sox. Welcome your new Tiger overlords, peasants!
   6. TomH Posted: August 08, 2012 at 09:38 AM (#4203024)
2012 O's = 1987 Twins
With Wei-Yin Chen and Jason Hammel playing Blyelven and Viola. Adam Jones is Kirby. Maybe Bud Selig will just decide the O's get home field for being so gritty, and they win all of their post-season games at Camden Yards. A guy in the bleachers grabs a fly ball out of Granderson's hands, and when the Yanks protest, the scoreboard shows Jeter-Maeir 96 flashback, and the umps toss Jeter out of the game. With a basket of flowers.
   7. JJ1986 Posted: August 08, 2012 at 09:47 AM (#4203033)
Is homefield in the one game WC playoff decided by record or by a coin flip?
   8. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: August 08, 2012 at 09:51 AM (#4203039)
Perhaps this will end up being my RDP "It was always over" moment,

Ooh. I can't wait to selectibot this thread!
   9. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: August 08, 2012 at 09:53 AM (#4203044)
Is homefield in the one game WC playoff decided by record or by a coin flip?
It should be by record, although given the haphazard way this was thrown together, it's probably determined by which team's home city comes first in the alphabet.

EDIT: Some Googling reveals this thing is apparently called the "Wild Card Showdown," which is pretty dumb. But I can't figure out who hosts the game. What's also bizarre is that they changed to the 2-3 format, on the theory that then the Wild Card winning team doesn't have to travel. But of course, if say, the Angels end up playing Baltimore in LA, and then Baltimore wins, the Orioles would have to travel and whatever team has the best record would still have to wait for the results. God, this thing is a mess. They should've waited a year.
   10. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: August 08, 2012 at 09:55 AM (#4203045)
The Orioles are something like 12-2 in extra inning games. That's amazing.
   11. JJ1986 Posted: August 08, 2012 at 10:01 AM (#4203048)
The Orioles are something like 12-2 in extra inning games. That's amazing.


Their top six relievers have a combined ERA of about 2.50. And that's with a huge blowup last week by Johnson.
   12. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 08, 2012 at 10:02 AM (#4203049)
What's also bizarre is that they changed to the 2-3 format, on the theory that then the Wild Card winning team doesn't have to travel.
Well, this is mentioned in some articles as the reason, but it's not right. The actual reason for the switch to 2-3 is scheduling travel days. Because MLB implemented the play-in game so late, they couldn't move the rest of the postseason back another day. So to fit in the play-in game, they had to shorten the divisional series by removing a travel day.
   13. fra paolo Posted: August 08, 2012 at 10:02 AM (#4203050)
And Detroit's only a half-game back of the White Sox.

We've been here before, just a few days ago. How'd that work out?

What's heartening is that the last two games have seen the whole lineup contributing. More of that, please.
   14. Lassus Posted: August 08, 2012 at 10:33 AM (#4203078)
Ooh. I can't wait to selectibot this thread!

Is it a noun or a verb? Make up your mind, troll!
   15. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: August 08, 2012 at 10:37 AM (#4203088)
Is it a noun or a verb? Make up your mind, troll!

Why can't it be both, grammar Nazi? It's my word and I'll make it do what I want it to do!
   16. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 08, 2012 at 10:44 AM (#4203095)
Adam Jones is Kirby.

There is a resemblance.
   17. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 08, 2012 at 10:49 AM (#4203110)
Mark Reynolds is Gary Gaetti. Nick Markakis is Tom Brunansky. JJ Hardy is Greg Gagne. Jim Thome is Kent Hrbek. Matt Wieters is Tim Laudner. Ok, the last one isn't so good

(I loved that '87 Twins team. I had the "Twins Win" videotape which featured montages of the Twins! Winning! set to both "My Baby Waves the Homer Hanky" and "I've Had the Time of My Life" from Dirty Dancing.)
   18. AROM Posted: August 08, 2012 at 10:53 AM (#4203116)
Adam Jones is Kirby.


I could see that, if he were a foot shorter and 30 pounds heavier.
   19. AROM Posted: August 08, 2012 at 10:58 AM (#4203125)
Orioles used 6 relievers last night. I think they have 7 in the pen, Jim Johnson being the one who didn't pitch. I was kind of hoping it went a bit longer so Chris Davis could get another W.

No idea who the Mariner position player as pitcher would be. I'd like to see Figgins get a shot. He had a pretty good arm from 3B when he was an Angel, not sure if he still has it or if he lost that skill with the rest of his game.
   20. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: August 08, 2012 at 11:27 AM (#4203161)
Well, this is mentioned in some articles as the reason, but it's not right. The actual reason for the switch to 2-3 is scheduling travel days
Sorry, I should have been clearer that I meant it was bizarre they were claiming this was the reason when it (a) is obviously not the reason and (b) makes no sense even if it were the real reason.



   21. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 08, 2012 at 11:32 AM (#4203170)
Gotcha. Yes, that makes no sense on many levels.

Which makes it kind of the perfect corporate explain-speak reason for the change.
   22. rconn23 Posted: August 08, 2012 at 11:35 AM (#4203180)
Excuse me for going on mini-rant ususally reserved for team fan blogs, but the Yankees really stink right now.

Their most reliable hitter other than Cano and Jeter, has been Eric Chavez, who could break a bone in any part of his body, at any time. Granderson has been horrific since Girardi put him at the No. 1 spot in the lineup. His rationale that he was a better on-base guy than Jeter despite Jeter having the higher OBP.

The back end of the rotation has been horrible. Nova should be replaced by Phelps, who is not sufficiently stretched out yet.
   23. The District Attorney Posted: August 08, 2012 at 11:41 AM (#4203185)
Their most reliable hitter other than Cano and Jeter, has been Eric Chavez, who could break a bone in any part of his body, at any time.
"I can break a bone out there, brother, and I'm talking about any part of a bone." - Jimmy Snuka
   24. escabeche Posted: August 08, 2012 at 01:34 PM (#4203345)
they have a tough closing stretch: more than a quarter of their remaining schedule is at Detroit, Texas, Oakland, Chicago or the Yankees


The other way to look at this, though, is that they're playing teams they need to pass -- so if they get hot they can gain a lot of ground quickly.

They've got a lot better chance of catching Detroit than catching New York, though, which puts Orioles fans in the uncomfortable position of kind of wanting the Yankees to win these games.
   25. rconn23 Posted: August 08, 2012 at 02:47 PM (#4203476)
""I can break a bone out there, brother, and I'm talking about any part of a bone." - Jimmy Snuka"

I believe it's "brudda". Did he say this before or after Piper broke the coconut over this noggin?
   26. Curse of the Andino Posted: August 08, 2012 at 03:26 PM (#4203548)
Perhaps this will end up being my RDP "It was always over" moment, but I just can't get myself worked up about Baltimore. For one thing, of course, they just aren't that good (there's only three teams with a worse run differential in the entire AL) and for another they have a tough closing stretch: more than a quarter of their remaining schedule is at Detroit, Texas, Oakland, Chicago or the Yankees. Obviously the Yankees need to get their #### together, but I just can't see Baltimore making a serious run.

Tampa worries me more, but unless the Yankees keep losing 2 of 3, I don't think it's going to be much of a September for the AL East.


I really have no idea how the O's will finish up. They've absolutely done it with smoke 'n mirrors and a revolving door on anybody who doesn't produce. However, under Buck, the team plays its very best in the final months. Whatever happens, I have enjoyed this year's Bird squad as much as I have any of their teams since 1989.

Why not?
   27. The District Attorney Posted: August 08, 2012 at 04:13 PM (#4203613)
Did he say this before or after Piper broke the coconut over this noggin?
Pretty sure before; pre-WWF. I only know of this because Mick Foley later quoted it.
   28. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: August 08, 2012 at 07:39 PM (#4203801)
the Yankees really stink right now.

Boy, it doesn't take much to send Yankee fans into a panic, does it? Dude, your team is 17 games over .500, has the second-best record in the league, and is leading the division by 4 1/2 freakin' games. (And if things really get rough, Hank can just open his wallet.) Chill. Life is good.

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