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1. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: February 01, 2012 at 01:52 PM (#4051249)Base16.
Very good.
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Once the team bats around, continue the inning in the column for one of the extra innings and hope that the game doesn't somehow go into extra innings.
#3, the old Project Scoresheet forms, though they too have lots of little boxes, are excellent in not giving every batter a box in every inning. That way, when a team does bat around, you just keep right on going to each batter's next plate appearance. The rest of the time, you save so much space that you never run out of boxes or have to cram two PAs in one box or over two innings' worth of room. You can still run out if the game goes 14 or 15 innings, sure, but that's rarer than batting around.
If it's the sixth, then replace the 7 with 6 and continue in that column. Do the same with all subsequent innings.
I generally use the box as the bases, with home in the lower-left corner. If there is sufficient space, I mark balls with dots at the top of the the box, with strikes (and two-strike foul balls) on the bottom.
When I was at David Cone's perfect game, I couldn't do the balls and strikes because the boxes on the Yankee program were relatively small. Unfortunate, since Cone never went to a three-ball count on any batter, something I don't think ever happened in any other perfecto.
(BTW, that scoresheet illustrating this entry looks as if it came from Strat-O-Matic.)
I wish Eric Enders still made scorebooks, I loved those books (should've bought more than one when I had the chance).
I'm looking for a new scorebook; mine's too big & bulky. Any other recommendations?
As I mentioned above I made my own and while I carry a big thick clipboard around with me you can do something similar and custom size it. Even if it's just a matter of copying a scoresheet off the web somewhere you can do a lot.
If you have a smartphone there are scorekeeping apps that are surprisingly good. I prefer the pen and paper method but it's nice.
I just printed them, hole punched them, and put them on a clipboard or in a ring binder. Biggest problem was the flimsiness of ordinary printer paper.
I believe Len Barker never went to a three-ball count in his perfect game, as well.
I used to score every game when I was a teenager. I barely remember the old system now, I haven't used it since 2007.
I guess these are the newly designed ones for when LaRussa retired.
had about 10 tiny boxes in the bottom of each box to indicate pitch (ball, taken strike, swinging strike) in order, then a diamond above it in the box where I'd indicate how the hitter moved around the bases and where they ended (fairly standard), and each sheet had blanks for innings so I could easily handle extra innings. No summary on the side for total hits/etc but at the bottom a summary of the game info (date/time/final score/etc.).
Later on when the team asked for more pitch info I switched to a full sheet per hitter with a large diamond so I could track where the ball was hit each time (a 1/2/3/4 to indicate plate appearance), space to record about 10 PA iirc, plus space to put in pitch type and location for every pitch. A handful of the hitters loved it and it helped our pitchers figure out where their tendencies were (ie: on 2 strikes do they always go outside, or with a certain pitch, etc.). This was in the late 80's-very early 90's, pre-world wide web. Inputting the data was a royal pain, but boy were the stat sheets long (legal sized) to contain all the extra stats I made up (swing % to indicate % of time they swung and missed for example).
At the university level it was interesting to see how the most effective pitchers were the ones who _didn't_ throw strikes all the time but could when needed. Trick was to be close enough to get batters to swing or to con umpires into calling it.
Thanks for linking that site. It was linked here once before, but I'd forgotten the URL. Depending on the price, I'd be interested in the spiral bound 100 game scorebook they're about to release.
I am one of two people I have ever seen keeping score on paper at a Rangers game. The other is Barbara Bush. I have seen people use various tablet apps which are extremely cool: you can drag and drop players into the lineup from a roster, click on them for stats, and what not.
I must say, so I and all of us can feel superior :) that keeping score keeps your head in a game and makes you much more interested in what's going on that following the usual stadium experience. People look at me like I'm some kind of bizarro supernerd, but it's worth it. One game last year, a guy asked me, "are you the manager of the Rangers?" I said "Huh?" or something. He said "'Cause you've got that clipboard."
Japanese fans rarely keep score. They all thought I was an MLB scout. Especially at a game at the Seibu Dome when Kazuo Matsui was playing.
Unable to tell is this is snark.
Really? what a difference from Busch, basically every person over 50 scores at the stadium(at least it seems that way) and dozens of all age groups in pretty much every section. I always buy the stadium scorecard(which usually sells out before the game starts) and paperclip the ticket to the scorecard. Someday I'll have to convince myself to get a better scorecard, but I like the collectability of the stadium scorecard.
Little known fact: Despite the confusion surrounding the Hall of Fame ballots, BBWAA members are permitted to write in player names on their Official BBWAA scorebooks.
One thing that is very useful is using a 4 color pen (or at least two pens). So pitching changes get marked between hitters with a red squiggly line. Somewhere on this site I have posted examples of my scoresheets.
When I go to the ballpark, I like to get the stadium scorecard, but many stadiums didn't have "scorecard only", and I hate scoring in the program (and I hate buying the program). I also hate when the stadium doesn't have the courtesy to have golf pencils.
When I score at home (yes, I score at home), I use my homemade Excel spreadsheet so the whole thing goes on one sheet.
We should upload to google docs so we can share with each other (I will start later today).
Also, because I am a lunatic, I have used the work binder to bind my seasonal set of scoresheets.
Well, the program vendors at the ballpark still sell standalone scorecards. I buy them and presumably others do as well. Scoring is not widespread in Arlington but does occur here and there.
I do like those Ranger scoresheets, BTW - stiff paper and cheap enough if you forego the "program" full of ads ...
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