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Monday, June 16, 2014

OMNICHATTER 6-16-2014

OMNICHATTER for today is… here.

Gamingboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:10 AM | 56 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:50 AM (#4727189)
The Royals have the 5th best record in the league. That doesn't seem right.
   2. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM (#4727222)
Ah, crap. Tony Gwynn has died.
   3. Lindor Truffles Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:24 AM (#4727223)
Tony Gwynn died.

EDIT: Coke or one San Diego Pale Ale 394 to CFBF.
   4. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:14 PM (#4727989)
I love Carlos Martinez's pacing. Hopefully he can break out as a starting pitcher.
   5. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:23 PM (#4727998)
Allen Craig with an RBI single. His average with risp was .288 coming up in that at bat, career wise it's .375. I honestly don't expect him to exceed .300 with risp going forward, but it is nice to see him rebound.
   6. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:28 PM (#4728001)
Matt Wieters is to have Tommy John surgery? That sucks.
   7. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:29 PM (#4728002)
Mets are helping out Carlos Martinez who has a pitch count limit of 50-60 pitches, by swinging at everything.
   8. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:34 PM (#4728008)
Tommy La Stella is so awesome.
   9. Lars6788 Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:35 PM (#4728009)
Maybe Jack Clark was right wondering about Verlander...ducks.
   10. Lassus Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:35 PM (#4728010)
I'm sorry, I find Burkhardt monumentally dull as PBP guy.
   11. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:42 PM (#4728013)
Louisville goes out in two straight for the second year in a row, combo of bad defense and no bats leads to 4-1 loss to Texas.

Vanderbilt small-balls its way to a 2-0 lead. Walk, single, sac, soft single to right, squeeze bunt. Four bunts in two innings.

-- MWE
   12. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:47 PM (#4728016)
UC Irvine counters with two in the second, including a squeeze bunt of their own. Bad job of blocking the plate by Vandy's C.

-- MWE
   13. Lassus Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:49 PM (#4728018)
David Wright looks awful.
   14. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:52 PM (#4728020)
Taylor Sparks drives in a pair with a 2-out single, UCI goes up 4-2 B2.

-- MWE
   15. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:53 PM (#4728022)
Not only is Verlander giving up lots of runs this year, but his K rate is way down and is walk rate is way up; both are below league average. I have a feeling he's pitching through an injury.
   16. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:57 PM (#4728028)
Tyler Beede: 11 pitches in the first, 35 in the second. That's what you get with him. Wonder if the Giants will be able to help him work through that.

-- MWE
   17. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:00 PM (#4728032)
Matt Adams is having a heck of a return from the DL, 4th consecutive game with an rbi (no homerun this time)
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:01 PM (#4728034)
Craig is slow.... but on that replay, it looked like he was safe... I might need to see it again.
   19. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:10 PM (#4728042)
Braves load the bases with nobody out and fail to score, naturally. La Stella lined out to third, and Simmons followed with the expected over-aggressive hacking that resulted in a 4-6-3 DP.
   20. AndrewJ Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:12 PM (#4728044)
Braves batted in that situation the way the Phils usually do. Hamels still up 1-0.
   21. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:23 PM (#4728051)
UCI has bailed out Beede in each of the last two innings. It could be a lot worse than 4-2 right now.

-- MWE
   22. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:27 PM (#4728052)
Beede departs in the 4th after 71 pitches. Couldn't throw a fast ball for a strike if his life depended on it.

-- MWE
   23. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:35 PM (#4728053)
Cardinal announcers talking about the Brock/Broglio trade and saying. "Realistically you want to make a trade where both teams benefits.....look at the trade Whitey made with the Brewers, we sent them what they needed to win the AL and we got what we needed to win the NL."

This is why I hate St Louis at times. Whitey is godlike so everything he did must have been right. Here is the trade.

December 12, 1980: Ted Simmons, Rollie Fingers and Pete Vuckovich to the Milwaukee Brewers for David Green, Dave LaPoint, Sixto Lezcano and Lary Sorensen.


Sixto played one season for the Cards(1981) and was worth .1 war.
David Green put up a 96 ops+ over 6 seasons, at 4.3 war, with 1983 being his best season with 2.3 war.
Dave Lapoint, 5 years as a Cardinal, 94 era+, over 563 innings.
Lary Sorensen one season as a Cardinal (in the non-world series year of 1981) 109 era+ in 23 games started and more importantly was involved in the trade that brought Lonnie Smith to the Cardinals.

vs

Ted Simmons 5 years as a Brewer, 5.9 war, including mvp votes in one season.
Rollie Fingers, won the 1981 AL Cy Young and MVP 4 years with a 150 era+ 97 saves.
Pete Vuckovich, won the 1982 AL Cy Young, (finished 4th in 1981)

Yet somehow in St Louis, the Cardinals(because of the brilliance that is Whitey) broke even on this trade.
   24. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:36 PM (#4728055)
Gattis strikes out looking after taking two strikes in an at-bat, which is not something he usually does. Doubly tough, because the Braves have now worked through the heart of the lineup going into the ninth and still trail 1-0.
   25. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:36 PM (#4728056)
Jon Jay proving once again why he should be the defacto starting centerfielder.
   26. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:38 PM (#4728057)
Vandy ties it at 4 in the 5th. Double, infield single, infield out, double. Go-ahead run is at 2nd with one out.

-- MWE
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:40 PM (#4728059)
Matt Holliday with career rbi 1000. (277th person to do that.)

Jay with his third run of the night as the Cardinals take a 3-1 lead over the Mets.
   28. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:43 PM (#4728061)
Joe Simpson and Chip Caray are going on about how dangerous the Phillies are. Simpson thinks they're going to rip off a 10 or 12-game winning streak starting any day now.
   29. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:44 PM (#4728062)
Matt Adams with his third triple of the year, to give the Cardinals a 5-1 lead.
   30. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:45 PM (#4728064)
Tommy La Stella just made a running catch that would have resulted in Uggla spiking himself, throwing the ball away and somehow grounding into a double play.
   31. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:47 PM (#4728066)
Joe Simpson and Chip Caray are going on about how dangerous the Phillies are. Simpson thinks they're going to rip off a 10 or 12-game winning streak starting any day now.


It's nice to compliment the opposition, but is there any real reason that someone thinks that is likely? They have one elite hitter, maybe two good hitters and a slew of average hitters. They have maybe two starting pitchers of quality. They required for their aging stars to have last hurrah years, and they aren't getting it, and no reason to think that will change.
   32. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:48 PM (#4728067)
Vandy loads the bases with one out, and knocks Anteaters' starter Elliot Surry from the game in the 5th.

-- MWE
   33. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:49 PM (#4728069)
It's nice to compliment the opposition, but is there any real reason that someone thinks that is likely?


They like Hamels and Lee, which is fair enough. They also seem to think that the Phillies have a really talented offensive core that has shockingly under-performed and is due to break out any minute. It's possible Chip and Joe stopped paying attention in 2008.
   34. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:50 PM (#4728070)
Sac fly puts Commodores in front 5-4. This game already has the most runs scored of any CWS game so far.

-- MWE
   35. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:51 PM (#4728071)
Pete Vuckovich, won the 1982 AL Cy Young, (finished 4th in 1981)

You forgot: portrayed Haywood, the big, burly Yankees slugger in Major League.
   36. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:52 PM (#4728072)
It's probable Chip and Joe stopped paying attention in 2008.


FTFY.

-- MWE
   37. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:01 PM (#4728079)
They like Hamels and Lee, which is fair enough. They also seem to think that the Phillies have a really talented offensive core that has shockingly under-performed and is due to break out any minute. It's possible Chip and Joe stopped paying attention in 2008.


As the Royals have shown this week, anybody can string together a winning streak, but from an analysis point of view, Phillies wouldn't be one of the top ten teams I would make a bet on it happening for.
   38. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:11 PM (#4728084)
Nice job Papelbum.
   39. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:11 PM (#4728085)
Braves get three jam shots and tie the game.
   40. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:17 PM (#4728087)
Ugh. Heyward strikes out on a splitter in the dirt, and the Braves get an extra-inning game they really don't need.
   41. Morph Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:18 PM (#4728089)
If Danny Duffy is for real then the Royals can win the division. Their offense is awful when considered as a whole, but Lorenzo Cain, Alex Gordon, Salvador Perez, and Alcides Escobar are meeting or exceeding expectations. It's just that Hosmer and especially Moustakas have been woeful enough to drag down production. Butler has also been dreadful. I would expect one of those three to hit significantly better over the rest of the season. (more realistically I would expect Butler to hit significantly better and Hosmer to at least hit for a better average) Add a bat like Seth Smith and the Royals could win in the low nineties.
   42. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:33 PM (#4728098)
A's broadcasters raving about the BP session Matt Chapman took with the big league team tonight - showed very good power, and definitely passed the "eye test," as they put it.
   43. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:39 PM (#4728102)
We are to the point where I just hope Chris Johnson gets hit by a pitch so LaStella can bat.
   44. Every Inge Counts Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:46 PM (#4728109)
Verlander gets knocked around by the Royals (the Royals) in a big game. Dude needs to hit the DL or do something..I don't think he is toast...but he is shitastic right now.
   45. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:49 PM (#4728110)
God damn, Andrelton is incredible.
   46. Snowboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:51 PM (#4728111)
Feel-good moment tonight: Jerry Sands hit a HR for the Rays, a PH 2-run shot in the 8th that broke a tie and gave them the lead.
His first big league HR since 2011, I remember him with the Dodgers he had AAA decent numbers. The Rays broadcast set up the AB by showing his PH appearance yday, where he broke 3 bats on 3 consecutive swings before getting one to stay in play, which was an RBI that won the game. No broken bat tonight, just a cracking deep fly ball to left that landed on the concourse. The expression on his face as he gets congrats in the dugout is worth the price of admission.
   47. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:03 PM (#4728122)
LaStella just K'd with weakest of weak sauce swings in a long time. Almost makes you long for Uggla, huh?
   48. Snowboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:03 PM (#4728123)
A's broadcasters raving about the BP session Matt Chapman took with the big league team tonight - showed very good power, and definitely passed the "eye test," as they put it.


The first round pick Matt Chapman is going to join the guys in the booth right now after the break. Comcast Athletics broadcast
   49. cardsfanboy Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:04 PM (#4728124)
Cardinals beat the Mets 6-2. Cardinals are 20-3 at home against the NL East since last season.
   50. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:09 PM (#4728129)
What's the haps w/Carpenter? He left the game with the trainer and Fredi under his own power, Phillies radio observed that he was rocking back and forth on a leg as if to test it.

My Roku keeps buffering the Braves TV broadcast so I tried Phillies to see if it's more solid.
   51. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:10 PM (#4728130)
[44] The Tigers sure got burned by extending Verlander two years earlier than they had to.
   52. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM (#4728134)
I see 4 tied games right now.

Altherr water... that's not their usual poison.

Well, that didn't work for the Phillies. Altherr appeared to be walking uncomfortably back to the dugout and seemed to grimace and say "Ow" gently as the camera followed him. I wonder if he strained something in the minors just before being called up?
   53. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:23 PM (#4728135)
Dee Gordon with a home run! Er ... triple and an error, but still the same effect.
   54. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:30 PM (#4728140)
"Bicep discomfort" for Carpenter.
   55. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:42 PM (#4728144)
Runner on second and two outs is the worst time to bunt for a hit.
   56. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:50 PM (#4728145)
Fredi IBB the bases loaded, Brignac ultimately clears them with a knock to the RF wall. 6-1 Phillies. Now Hale just walked reliever Bastardo! No idea where the zone is, no help in pen.

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