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OMNICHATTER 6-21-2014

Saturday in the OMNICHATTER

Gamingboy Posted: June 21, 2014 at 11:35 AM | 76 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. boteman Posted: June 21, 2014 at 01:58 PM (#4732246)
Oh, sure! Wait until I submit an OMNICHATTER and THEN yours shows up. I see what's going on here.

Is that Ben Johnson alongside Joe Angel on the Orioles radio broadcast? Hm.
   2. DKDC Posted: June 21, 2014 at 02:09 PM (#4732255)
It's Ben McDonald. I think this is the third series he has been a guest color commentator for a few series. He's a lot of fun to listen to.

I'm stuck with the YES announcers, who are blaming the umpire, not the pitcher who has given up two bombs and many more deep fly balls.
   3. Ziggy Posted: June 21, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4732257)
Where did Nelson Cruz come from? (And man, first Davis, now Cruz. TEX must wonder what's going on here.)
   4. boteman Posted: June 21, 2014 at 02:23 PM (#4732262)
Ben Johnson => Ben McDonald. I guess I just had Johnson on the brain--errr.

Ziggy: They must have inculcated them into The Oriole Way.
   5. boteman Posted: June 21, 2014 at 02:27 PM (#4732264)
Steve Pearce HOME RUN??!! SRSLY??
   6. Ziggy Posted: June 21, 2014 at 02:30 PM (#4732268)
that dude has been seriously mediocre for a long time, but he's having a terrific season so far this year.
   7. DKDC Posted: June 21, 2014 at 02:40 PM (#4732272)
The Orioles would be completely out of the race without Pearce's improbable run here.

Through June 21st last year, Wieters/Davis/Hardy had combined for 51 homers. This year they have combined for 17.

Pearce hasn't bridged all of that gap, but he's helped immensely.

Of course, Pearce is not very likely to continue hitting like this, so those other guys (minus Wieters) better start hitting soon.
   8. DKDC Posted: June 21, 2014 at 02:54 PM (#4732278)
Norris leaves with an injury. So much for Ubaldo to the bullpen.
   9. Randomly Fluctuating Defensive Metric Posted: June 21, 2014 at 03:41 PM (#4732314)
Jose Ramirez has been clobbered in the Majors thus far, but I'm pretty bullish about the guy's future. When scouts throw around jargon like 'projectable' I think they would have a Ramirez type in mind.
   10. boteman Posted: June 21, 2014 at 03:46 PM (#4732316)
When J.J. Hardy bangs a circuit clout against you, it must make you wonder, though.

I can't understand why Joe & Co. are going on and on about Hardy "finally" hitting a home run after 88 games. I guess it took New New Yankee Stadium for him to break out, huh?

edit: A-HA! I see now: I've always considered him to be a weak hitting SS, but his season high is 30 HR in 2011. Since 2005 he hit 9 HR, 5, 26, 24, 11, 6, 30, 22, and 25 last year leading up to his "drought". Eh, he's 31 years old so maybe this is the start of his decline? Maybe this is his bad streak sandwiched between next year's return to power?
   11. Randomly Fluctuating Defensive Metric Posted: June 21, 2014 at 03:53 PM (#4732322)
JJ Hardy is having a strange season. Before this season I would have pegged him as a BJ Upton clone heading into free agency. If the power went, his value would be erased. But he's managed to maintain a decent average without any homers. I agree with 10 that the power outage was overblown. If he hits only thirteen homers or so, that's not exactly a shocking development. But yeah, I am surprised he hasn't completely cratered without the homers. Could be a conscious change in approach. I don't think the free agent shortstop class is as enticing as the names appear.
   12. DKDC Posted: June 21, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4732338)
Hardy averaged a HR every ~25 at bats for from 2007-2013. I think it's pretty surprising that he went almost 350 at bats (dating back to early September) without a HR.

He's always been streaky, but that's pretty dramatic. If he was true talent 1:25 HR:AB hitter for every at bat in that streak, that literally has a one-in-a-million chance of happening.
   13. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: June 21, 2014 at 04:45 PM (#4732398)
Oh, Ned Yost, you big dumb idiot.
   14. cardsfanboy Posted: June 21, 2014 at 04:54 PM (#4732413)
I don't think Wainwright is physically good. Has very little control right now. I wouldn't be surprised to see him pulled before the 5th inning.
   15. boteman Posted: June 21, 2014 at 04:58 PM (#4732416)
Today marks the 50th anniversary of Jim Bunning's perfect game for the Phillies against the Mets. H/T to Mets radio for the nudge to look it up.
   16. puck Posted: June 21, 2014 at 05:35 PM (#4732438)
My god, that was complete horse bleep from the Rockies. Walk the bases loaded to face the pitcher with 2 outs. Throw a wild pitch to let one in, catcher throws it away to let in the 2nd, and the pitcher holds the ball in foul territory to let in the 3rd.
   17. salvomania Posted: June 21, 2014 at 05:36 PM (#4732439)
Phillies vs. Cardinals, both Hamels (.280 avg.) and Wainwright (.300) have hit doubles in the game.
   18. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: June 21, 2014 at 05:45 PM (#4732441)
puck

he had to hold the ball because mchenry was staring at the ground versus paying attention
   19. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: June 21, 2014 at 05:49 PM (#4732444)
so rickie weeks fumbles a double play ball and no error

aramis ramirez smothers a line SHOT to his left and is charged an error

i think the scorer is taking advatnage of the marijuana laws in colorado

holy cow is that ridiculous
   20. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: June 21, 2014 at 05:52 PM (#4732445)
The Red Sox 'offense' is such a ridiculous joke right now.
   21. boteman Posted: June 21, 2014 at 06:08 PM (#4732454)
deGrom loses the Bour War.
   22. puck Posted: June 21, 2014 at 06:16 PM (#4732455)
puck

he had to hold the ball because mchenry was staring at the ground versus paying attention


Still horseshit, Morneau was close enough to cover.
   23. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: June 21, 2014 at 06:18 PM (#4732456)
I'd be looking for chairs to flip if I were a diehard A's fan right now.
   24. Rob_Wood Posted: June 21, 2014 at 06:19 PM (#4732457)
... or manager
   25. bob gee Posted: June 21, 2014 at 06:20 PM (#4732458)
i'm flipping chairs.

and i root for the a's, not diehard, but that was awful on two levels (he missed the pitch, and even if napoli fouled it off, it was caught behind the plate).

on an a's note - i love how melvin is rotating players, esp. the designated hitter, moving everyone around...i can't help but think it's giving some time off to players and making them 'ready' in case of injury, or post season moves and the like.
   26. boteman Posted: June 21, 2014 at 06:32 PM (#4732466)
I love Howie Rose on the Duda home run just now: "This is way back...Stanton doesn't know where it is, but he might want to look over the fence because it's into the bullpen!" 4-0 Mutts.

No chairs were flipped in the creation of this message.
   27. boteman Posted: June 21, 2014 at 06:52 PM (#4732471)
The Mets climb back toward relevance, defeating the Marlins 4-0 which brings the Marlins back to .500 and the Mets...nowhere near .500 :-/

HOLY CRUD!! The formerly world-beating Giants are now "only" 43-30 while the Brewers are 45-30 and the Oakland Athletics are 46-28 !!! I guess Josh Donaldson really IS your AL MVP for 2014. Tale of two seasons in the making as we turn the corner into the Summer.
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: June 21, 2014 at 06:53 PM (#4732472)
Cardinals scored 3 runs in the 8th inning...Prior to today's game, the Cardinals had scored 19 runs in the 8th inning.(that is one per every 3.9 games played)

Not a great showing, but at least the offense isn't utterly dead.(Wainwright is in line for the win if the Cardinals can keep the score 4-1 in the ninth)
   29. cardsfanboy Posted: June 21, 2014 at 06:56 PM (#4732473)
HOLY CRUD!! The formerly world-beating Giants are now "only" 43-30 while the Brewers are 45-30 and the Oakland Athletics are 46-28 !!! I guess Josh Donaldson really IS your AL MVP for 2014. Tale of two seasons in the making as we turn the corner into the Summer.


Barring a Toronto like comeback form the Rockies(not impossible as it's in Colorado and it's only 9-4) the Brewers will be 46-30 in a few moments.
   30. Yoenis Cespedes, Baseball Savant Posted: June 21, 2014 at 07:03 PM (#4732475)
Nothing better than Dennis Eckersley in the booth.
   31. Yoenis Cespedes, Baseball Savant Posted: June 21, 2014 at 07:12 PM (#4732480)
A's walk off against Koji Uehara.
   32. jobu Posted: June 21, 2014 at 07:27 PM (#4732483)
And it's Coco again.
   33. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 21, 2014 at 08:13 PM (#4732511)
Harold Reynolds seems to think hitters should argue that defensive shifts pose a danger because fielders are right in their sight line and pitches are obscured.
   34. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 21, 2014 at 09:18 PM (#4732530)
Teheran's been brilliant so far (10 Ks in six innings), but just gave up his second run of the game after a bizarre string of events which included balking when he was trying to step off the mound and giving up a single to Zimmerman which drove in the balked runner.
   35. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 21, 2014 at 09:27 PM (#4732534)
That stare-off between Teheran & Gattis before the balk was one of the strangest pitcher-catcher interactions I've seen. Looks like a failure to communicate.
   36. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 21, 2014 at 09:38 PM (#4732536)
The Rice Raker does it again.
   37. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 21, 2014 at 10:37 PM (#4732547)
Joe Nathan blows another one. I hope BBC likes guys with grey hairs because this bullpen is going to give them to Ausmus.
   38. salvomania Posted: June 21, 2014 at 11:18 PM (#4732559)
Hey, at least he picked up the win while graciously allowing Phil Coke to get the save.
   39. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 21, 2014 at 11:27 PM (#4732560)
Martinez has a perfect game for Texas through 5.

JINX, ############.
   40. boteman Posted: June 21, 2014 at 11:50 PM (#4732561)
Michael Morse apparently has left the game with back soreness. Giants TV showed an earlier PA in which he swung big and then winced and grabbed his lower back. NatsTown is suitably saddened.
   41. boteman Posted: June 22, 2014 at 12:07 AM (#4732564)
HOLY POOP!! Hunter Pence just hit a moon shot into the upper deck beyond LF. 6-4 Gigantes.
   42. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 22, 2014 at 12:17 AM (#4732568)
C.J. Cron makes quick justification for the Angels releasing Raul IbaƱez to give him more ABs. 2-1 Angels on his 8th inning homer, just in time for the bullpen to produce another back-breaking, heart-rending loss.
   43. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 22, 2014 at 12:28 AM (#4732571)
Insert pen, give up runs, bye-bye lead. It's really incredible how predictable the Angel bullpen is.
   44. boteman Posted: June 22, 2014 at 12:51 AM (#4732577)
The Giants' 1st round draft pick in 2011, Joe Panik, stays calm and draws a 5-pitch walk in the 8th. Welcome to the Majors.
   45. Randomly Fluctuating Defensive Metric Posted: June 22, 2014 at 12:57 AM (#4732581)
44. St. John's!
   46. boteman Posted: June 22, 2014 at 01:29 AM (#4732584)
Brandon Crawford made a Zimmerman-esque play (when Zim was great at 3B). Didi G. banged a sharp roller into the hole which Crawford scooped up and heaved a throw to 1B that I thought initially was wild, but hit the glove about shin-level. A hell of a play, but Didi was too fast and beat it out by a step.
   47. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 22, 2014 at 01:30 PM (#4732690)
Guess this is today's Omnichatter as well.

Beat Buckhead again today and it's no harm, no foul.
   48. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 22, 2014 at 01:50 PM (#4732716)
LaRoche makes it Nats 1 - 'Necks 0.
   49. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 22, 2014 at 01:52 PM (#4732718)
Make that 2-0.
   50. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 22, 2014 at 02:40 PM (#4732742)
Roark lets the error and the horseshit call roll right off him like water off a duck.
   51. stanmvp48 Posted: June 22, 2014 at 02:52 PM (#4732750)
Virginia and Vandy advance to the CWS final. If I am not mistaken there were 2 home runs hit in the first 13 games.
   52. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 22, 2014 at 03:12 PM (#4732760)
Alright Span! Nats 3 - Buckhead 0.
   53. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 22, 2014 at 03:30 PM (#4732778)
HAAA-haah. Hit the showers, you stupid redneck.
   54. boteman Posted: June 22, 2014 at 03:32 PM (#4732782)
Chris Johnson needs to attend an effective anger management rehab house. He was just called out on strike 3 on appeal to Tim Welke at 1B, stood at the plate screaming "That's horsesh|t! You're horsesh|t". When the home plate ump intervened he looked at him and screamed "You're horsesh|t, too!"

Guess what? He was ejected.
   55. Bourbon Samurai Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:08 PM (#4732803)
would sure be nice to get a split with the braves here. I didn't think that was coming after the first two games.
   56. Bourbon Samurai Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:11 PM (#4732807)
Rendon! Ok let's get an insurance run
   57. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:17 PM (#4732808)
That's it baby! 4-1.
   58. Swedish Chef Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:26 PM (#4732815)
Josh Byrnes has been fired. Omar Minaya is acting GM.
   59. Mike A Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:27 PM (#4732816)
To be fair to Johnson, it was a horse&*#@ call.

Though I have to admit Johnson's got a touch of a temper issue.
   60. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:29 PM (#4732819)
Amazingly, the Nats manages to earn a split in the series with the Braves.

   61. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:30 PM (#4732821)
Baaaaaang, zoooooooooom, awoooooooga, another first place Curly W is in the books!!!
   62. boteman Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:35 PM (#4732825)
Tuned over to the Orioles @ Yankees game to see Steve Pearce slide in the general vicinity of 3B trying to take out Kelly Johnson and it succeeded wildly, resulting in a bad overthrow across to 1B. Now Girardi is pleading with all 4 umps by the bag to no avail.
   63. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:47 PM (#4732836)
aramis ramirez is clearly on orders to take it easy on the bases and in the field his range is that of someone trapped in a tanning booth.

but he can hit.
   64. boteman Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:53 PM (#4732843)
Texeira hit by a pitch on his left foot near the toes. He was hopping mad, hopping toward 1B in obvious agony, and has left the game under his own power.
   65. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: June 22, 2014 at 05:19 PM (#4732852)

Texeira hit by a pitch on his left foot near the toes. He was hopping mad, hopping toward 1B in obvious agony, and has left the game under his own power.

When did fouling the ball off the batter's own leg become a thing?
Did this ever happen to old-time players? I don't remember ever reading about even an injury magnet like Pete Reiser being hurt in this way.
   66. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: June 22, 2014 at 05:31 PM (#4732856)
Did this ever happen to old-time players? I don't remember ever reading about even an injury magnet like Pete Reiser being hurt in this way.


Not quite old timey (though closer than I"m comfortable admitting), but Bucky Dent often wore a shinguard on his left leg at the plate because he hit so many balls off of his leg. He was also a crappy hitter, which is the type more likely to pull off that trick.

   67. boteman Posted: June 22, 2014 at 05:38 PM (#4732858)
I'm pretty sure the pitch went directly to his foot, not taking a detour via Texeira's bat. That's how he was awarded 1B.
   68. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: June 22, 2014 at 05:45 PM (#4732866)
fred

it's tied to the advent of the slider
   69. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: June 22, 2014 at 05:53 PM (#4732874)
it's tied to the advent of the slider

Ahaaa, thanks. I was trying to figure out how hitting style had evolved to get to this. Wrong side of the ball.
   70. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: June 22, 2014 at 06:38 PM (#4732929)
fred

it's tied to the advent of the slider


And accentuated by the popularity of the split finger and other pitches that break sharply down in the last few feet. You see the foul off the foot ten times as much now as you did 50 or 60 years ago.
   71. jobu Posted: June 22, 2014 at 07:10 PM (#4732977)
The A's like what Koji's cooking.
   72. Srul Itza At Home Posted: June 22, 2014 at 07:55 PM (#4733096)
And Big Papi with yet another, late game, dramatic home run.
   73. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 22, 2014 at 08:29 PM (#4733152)
Man Oakland is a Good ####### baseball team. There's nothing like watching a team closely for a few days to appreciate them more.
   74. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 22, 2014 at 09:27 PM (#4733182)
Now that he gets to play everyday, C.J. Cron knocks another homer in as many days since what's-his-name got released.
   75. boteman Posted: June 22, 2014 at 10:12 PM (#4733201)
25 18 * * * /usr/local/bin/homerun 2>/dev/null 
   76. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 22, 2014 at 11:01 PM (#4733226)
Insert Angel bullpen, allow run. Every single ####### ############# time.

At least it didn't cost them anything tonight. After I'm done grumbling, I'm going to enjoy this sweep of the Rangers.

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