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Friday, June 27, 2014

OMNICHATTER 6-27-2014

The “Let’s See if Verlander Is Really Back To Normal” OMNICHATTER

Gamingboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 12:21 AM | 61 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 27, 2014 at 12:39 PM (#4737425)
By popular demand...

HOW WILL THE ANGELS LOSE TODAY?
   2. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: June 27, 2014 at 01:17 PM (#4737446)
Last year, it took the Dodgers exactly one month to wipe out a 9.5 game deficit. To match that this year, they only need to make up 2 games by July 8. I now believe that the Dodgers will not only win the NL West but win it handily.
   3. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 27, 2014 at 05:43 PM (#4737656)
The Nationals are "playing to their competition". They lost to the Cubs last night. They're losing to the Cubs right now in the 5th inning. And they have a double-header tomorrow to avoid a conflict with the pride parade on Sunday, so their bullpen will likely be worn the hell out and need every bit of that "freebie" off day.

The Nats look, feel, smell, sound, and taste pretty much like a .500 ballclub, with occasional flashes of greatness.
   4. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 27, 2014 at 06:36 PM (#4737688)
The Nats don't have to be great; hell, they just have to be slightly better than a .500 ball club to win that division. I still think they will, and I think most others do, too. Atlanta's offense borders on minor league, and none of the other NLE teams are serious challengers. It's gotta be frustrating to watch them run hot and cold, though.

EDIT: ... I say this as the game gets out of hand.
   5. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 27, 2014 at 06:50 PM (#4737695)
Angels trade Ernesto Frieri (6.39 ERA, an epic 27.00 ERA in his last five appearances) for Jason Grilli's warmed-over corpse. Both guys were good last year, so maybe a change of scenery will do them both good.
   6. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 27, 2014 at 06:57 PM (#4737698)
Span has never been a good hitter, typically weak rollers to 2B;
Zimmerman hasn't returned to form at the plate and can't throw the ball in from medium LF to the infield dirt;
Werth is in decline with only his LD% paralleling career level;
Desmond has good to very good defense, but has reverted to being an out machine;
Danny Espinosa has great defense, but after about a month of improved batting has reverted to being a K machine; he's not an every day player.

Rendon and LaRoche are the only hitters with much to show for their efforts recently. Ramos is back and has a mini hitting streak going and has some pop, but we'll see if he can stay healthy.

Harper wasn't hitting well before he went down, who knows what he'll contribute when he decides to grace the team with his presence.

Throw in the pitcher's spot in the batting order and you have an underwhelming lineup to run out there most days. 6 out of 9 batting spots are Luke-warm at best right now. It will be interesting to see how Matt Williams sorts out the impending crowded outfield when Harper returns, so that drama will keep us entertained, I guess.

And the Nats are unlikely to come back from a 7-2 deficit with 2 outs in the 9th, so let's chalk up 2 losses in a row against the mighty, mighty Cubbies.
   7. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: June 27, 2014 at 07:08 PM (#4737704)
For anyone getting the MLB network pickup of the Yanks-Sox game: Now THAT'S how the SSB should be played.
   8. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 27, 2014 at 07:25 PM (#4737715)
Harper wasn't hitting well before he went down, who knows what he'll contribute when he decides to grace the team with his presence.
Harper's not scheduled to be back until July? Seems overly cautious.
   9. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: June 27, 2014 at 07:26 PM (#4737717)
Now if Nuno can just get this run to hold up. (smile)
   10. Dale Sams Posted: June 27, 2014 at 08:25 PM (#4737741)
Now if Nuno can just get this run to hold up. (smile)


Have you forgotten who you're playing?
   11. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 09:29 PM (#4737771)
Yep, the Red Sox 'offense' is so useless that it makes Vidal Nuno look like a good pitcher.
   12. madvillain Posted: June 27, 2014 at 09:31 PM (#4737772)
Jose Abreu folks, 2 more HR tonight, his slash line is approaching absurd territory, both for the incredible power, and the relative lack of walks given said power: 280/330/630. He has an ISO of .350. Wow.
   13. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: June 27, 2014 at 09:40 PM (#4737776)
2014 AL MVP Josh Donaldson flies to the deepest part of center field, and the A's remain a run down to Miami in the top of the 8th, 5-4.
Feh.

EDIT: Reddick triples home Vogt, and all is forgiven. 5-5, A's still at bat.
   14. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 09:43 PM (#4737780)
Jose Abreu folks, 2 more HR tonight, his slash line is approaching absurd territory, both for the incredible power, and the relative lack of walks given said power: 280/330/630. He has an ISO of .350. Wow.


not that it was a unique pick...but he was my AL ROY pick... (Springer is going to make it interesting though)
   15. Dale Sams Posted: June 27, 2014 at 09:46 PM (#4737783)
(Springer is going to make it interesting though)


Tanaka looks at you with a raised eyebrow.
   16. madvillain Posted: June 27, 2014 at 09:55 PM (#4737789)
Two man race between Jose and Tanaka. If both stay healthy you'd expect 4-6 WAR each and both will also have excellent counting stats. Abreu might have 50 homeruns and 150 RBI, Tanaka 20 wins and 200k.
   17. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 09:57 PM (#4737792)
Tanaka looks at you with a raised eyebrow.


He plays for New York. I forgot they had a team...
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 09:58 PM (#4737793)
Two man race between Jose and Tanaka. If both stay healthy you'd expect 4-6 WAR each and both will also have excellent counting stats. Abreu might have 50 homeruns and 150 RBI, Tanaka 20 wins and 200k.


The "true rookie" will win out if that happens. I fully believe there is a bias against awarding roy to Japanese players, if the writers can find a better alternative.

Of course that was why I originally listed Springer as a possible, since Abreu isn't a true rookie in many peoples eyes.
   19. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:06 PM (#4737801)
Coco Crisp ruled safe at home, A's benefit from replay, now lead 6-5.
Replay is still ########, though.

EDIT: Donaldson has another loooooong fly out, scoring Sogard from third, now 7-5, A's.
   20. Roger McDowell spit on me! Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:12 PM (#4737804)
And Vogt and Reddick with back to back hits to score two more. 9-5.
   21. Rob_Wood Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:16 PM (#4737806)
right-handed sidearm/submariners just simply cannot get lefties out
   22. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:26 PM (#4737810)
Sean Doolittle is amazing. 13 strikes, one ball in his outing today.
   23. Morph Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:26 PM (#4737811)
Will Appel over Bryant be the next Chilcott over Reggie?
   24. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:27 PM (#4737812)
The Cardinals young pitchers, with men on base, are extremely frustrating to watch...
   25. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:29 PM (#4737813)
Even against my own team, I love seeing the hitter beat the shift.
   26. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:34 PM (#4737814)
McCarver got the memo to complain about everything Puig did....two bouncer(went foul) to the third baseman, with Puig on third, Puig went back to the bag....McCarver was wondering why with his speed, he would do that...if Carpenter fields the ball fair, he would have been out by at least 20 feet...but McCarver thinks he should have been running on that play...
   27. Spahn Insane Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:37 PM (#4737815)
So, random statistical oddity from today's Cubs/Nats game: after the game, the two starting pitchers (Hammel and Roark) have identical W-L records (7-5) AND identical ERAs (2.98). What are the chances of that happening...
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:44 PM (#4737820)
I like Mark McGwire's take on Puig(at least what he told the Cardinal announcers)

Puig is a cross(I'm assuming personality/enthusiasm) between Kirby Puckett and Rickey Henderson and Mark absolutely loves him for that.
   29. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:46 PM (#4737823)
I complain about McCarver, but he has been more good than bad this year. He's upped McLaughlin's game tremendously. Prior to McCarver, every Cardinal announcer would say that nobody shakes off Molina, but McCarver has been saying all along, that a pitcher absolutely has to shake off the catcher, it's the pitcher who knows how he feels.
   30. Born1951 Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:47 PM (#4737825)
Sean Doolittle is amazing. 13 strikes, one ball in his outing today.

His SO/BB ratio is now 55.00. That's pretty good.
   31. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:53 PM (#4737830)
Cardinals have constantly, all year long, made the wrong decision on when to throw home.... first and second, single to right, runner scores, fielder throws home....batter advances to second because of the throw...Uggh....all year long, they have constantly made poor defensive decisions.
   32. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:54 PM (#4737831)
Another fine play by Peralta.... again, he may not be the best defensive shortstop out there, but I absolutely guarantee you, no Cardinal fan is bothered by his play so far this year.
   33. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:00 PM (#4737835)
M Rojas out at home on runner's fielder's choice, D Gordon to third on runner's fielder's choice.


Since I'm guessing you're watching it... did he try to score on a wild pitch that wasn't as wild as he thought?
   34. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:03 PM (#4737837)
Since I'm guessing you're watching it... did he try to score on a wild pitch that wasn't as wild as he thought?


Yes. Along with a bad break.

Martinez made a good play on the tag, although it's possible to argue he was blocking the plate and didn't leave a lane, but he was beat by so much that nobody cared.
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:07 PM (#4737840)
McCarver is telling a story about Musial being angry and yelling at Durocher(who apparently he didn't like)

I will say, I'm liking this McCarver addition. He's been a great historian as an announcer. Still has his bias's and old school thinking, but he's been an improvement over what Al has brought to the table the last five years....Horton is better than McCarver since Horton has found sabermetrics.
   36. theboyqueen Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:09 PM (#4737841)
Sean Doolittle is amazing. 13 strikes, one ball in his outing today.

His SO/BB ratio is now 55.00. That's pretty good.


If I am counting right, he's also one out away from 27 straight outs.
   37. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM (#4737845)
I know I bag on Whiney Herzog a lot, but the Cardinal announcers just brought up the Andy Van Slyke trade. Whiney could never figure out that Andy was a good player so he tried to platoon him and would look for any reason to rest him (Andy Van Slyke would play 140 games and have 450 pa for the Cardinals.) Whiney who was a slave to playing his big eight no matter what, made an exception with Van Slyke.

If you want to know why I don't worship Whiney Herzog as much as other Cardinal fans....look at the Andy Van Slyke trade and the Ted Simmons trade. (not to mention that he spent a chapter of his book proposing a neutral home for the world series in Memphis, simply because the Twins beat the Cardinals in 1987)
   38. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM (#4737847)
Molina with a homerun off of the fair pole. He's been slumping so it's nice to see a well hit ball.
   39. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:20 PM (#4737849)
Please shoot me...

Mclaughlin is talking about chemistry and the Dodgers last year versus this year losing Punto, Ellis and Schumaker....I will acknowledge that McLaughlin did flat out say "I never bought the chemistry argument...but Ellis is in the conversation".... and of course McCarver brought up the 70's A's.... for lack of chemistry and winning.
   40. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:23 PM (#4737851)
Just got back from the Jays/White Sox game.

The Encarnacion/Abreu HR duel was fun to watch.
It really looked like the Jays were going to pull off the comeback in the 9th.
My parents' seats are in the section where the player families sit, so we had R.A. Dickey's wife there, Melky Cabrera's wife/gf, his daughter, and brother/friend, and his parents.
We also had rookie Brad Glenn's parents there, or we just assume its his parents since the older gentleman was wearing a Brad Glenn Jays jersey...which would be impressive since it was his first game (second day) in the majors. He had one deep fly out that got his parents to stand quickly in anticipation.

Side note: The Jays used a pitcher as a pinch-runner again tonight (Hutchison for Lind), which makes it the 6th time they've done it so far this season.
That's the most pitcher-as-a-pinch-runner appearances by an AL team in the last 30 years (tying the 1988 Athletics).

The record for the last 40 years in the AL is held by the 1976 Cleveland Indians (11 times).

   41. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:25 PM (#4737852)
Freaking YA!!!!

Allen Craig toasts AJ Ellis at second on a hit into the corner.
   42. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:38 PM (#4737854)
Peralt hits a ball between Puig and Van Slyke....Van Slyke is roaming towards the ball and slightly(and I mean slightly) pulls off from his pursuit as Puig moves into range to catch the ball but doesn't get it..

McCarver "Puig must have said something to cause Van Slyke to pull off of the ball."
McLaughlin"Van Slyke would have caught that if he didn't pull off because of Puig."

No.... Van Slyke had no chance at the ball, Puig probably didn't say anything, as Van Slyke could easily see out of the corner of his eye that Puig was closing in on the ball....but the Cardinal announcers had to blame Puig apparently.

edit: after the commercial break the Cardinal announcers said "I think it might have been because Van Slyke saw Puig and his great closing speed(and it is great)....no #### you ####### sit heads. Why bad mouth the guy when you waste half your time talking about how great he is.
   43. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:45 PM (#4737857)
McCarver redeems himself a little bit. Talking about father/son combos(in regards to Dee Gordon/Flash Gordon) and brings up..."Did you know that Ken Griffey's Jr grandfather played for the Donora baseball team?" Obviously all Cardinal fans know that Donora is the home of Stan Musial, and many know that Griffey's dad/grandfather(depending on which one you are referring to) played with Musial(which makes the Murray Chass---Musial is a racist article a little hard to accept)

   44. Willie Mayspedester Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:47 PM (#4737859)
Sean Doolittle

June 12 IP 1 H (a double) 0 BB 18 K .083 WHIP ERA 0.00

May + June 24.1 IP 5 H 1 BB 38 K .247 WHIP ERA 0.00
   45. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:52 PM (#4737861)
Now McCarver and McLaughlin are bagging on Puig for not taking out Peralta on the double play....another 3 minutes or so of them bagging on the guy.

Edit:mind you, Peralta was no where close to a spot where Puig could have taken him out...but facts like that wouldn't prevent a still continuing bag on the player rant.
   46. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:53 PM (#4737862)
We had a pitchers' duel going in S.F. until the 5th inning. Then Bumgarner seemed to lose command/control/location or the hitters had already seen him once or twice and started plinking, plunking, and dunking him to death. Went from no score to 5-0, now in the 6th.

Just now 2 close plays at 1B went for the Reds even though Heisey might have been out, but the Giants did not challenge. Now Cozart looks like he didn't even touch the 1B bag and neither did first baseman Duvall as he was pulled up off the bag to catch the throw. Then after an extended replay he is ruled safe, but it turned out not to matter as Cueto grounded out meekly to end the inning.

I agree that the hitters will tell you how the pitcher is doing and it looks like Bumgarner aint doing so well tonight.
   47. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:58 PM (#4737863)
I agree that the hitters will tell you how the pitcher is doing and it looks like Bumgarner aint doing so well tonight.


I don't know, I've seen a lot of performances where the results didn't match up with the performance..from a good pitcher with impeccable location getting dinked for hit after hit to a guy getting laced for out after out.... sometimes the results do not match what the guy brought to the game.

   48. cardsfanboy Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:59 PM (#4737864)
Cardinals had two outs man on second with the pitchers spot up to bat in the 6th inning,(leading 3-1) and Matheny let the relief pitcher Maness bat for himself. To me it makes perfect sense, but the haters will find a reason to complain about Matheny's management.
   49. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 28, 2014 at 12:00 AM (#4737865)
If the pitcher aint foolin the hitters, they'll let everyone know. It's on the scoreboard.

edit: In this instance I'm also including the 7-8-9 hitters who are batting there for a reason, plus the pitcher. At least 9 men came to the plate against Bumgarner in that 5th inning.
   50. cardsfanboy Posted: June 28, 2014 at 12:03 AM (#4737866)
Jon Jay with a nice catch.... these last two series there would be a good highlight reel of defensive plays from both teams.

Now Molina toasts an attempted steal by Kemp.
   51. cardsfanboy Posted: June 28, 2014 at 12:17 AM (#4737867)
anyone see the Josh Harrison run down for Pittsburgh?
   52. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 28, 2014 at 12:17 AM (#4737868)
Appending to my comments: the Giants defenders are not having anything close to a stellar night. A bad throw from the Panda across the diamond pulled Duvall off 1B, Posey just tried to throw out Frazier, but it hit him and trickled into CF a little bit, and now Punter Hence dove to make a catch and after replay confirms that it was a trap and not a catch Jay Bruce is safe at 1B--and just stole 2B. Just not a crisp game for the Giants, and that's just the short list of plays that come to mind. There were others.
   53. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 28, 2014 at 12:18 AM (#4737869)
So, random statistical oddity from today's Cubs/Nats game: after the game, the two starting pitchers (Hammel and Roark) have identical W-L records (7-5) AND identical ERAs (2.98). What are the chances of that happening...


Happens every year, for the first four games of the season.

Still pretty cool, though.
   54. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 28, 2014 at 12:31 AM (#4737871)
Watching the Giants game with my Roku delivering the radio play-by-play, but I'm still subjected to the camera panning around the crowd and zooming in on guys chowing down on nachos, babies drooling, and fans with goofy headgear on. Never, ever, ever any shot of the defensive alignment or even the pitcher scratching his nuts. Why don't they televise a channel with nothing but the people in the stands and the kayakers out in China Basin? Let's compare the ratings, maybe I'm on to something big!
   55. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 28, 2014 at 12:42 AM (#4737874)
OK, if Billy Hamilton keeps hitting like this he's gonna be one tough customer. Ridiculous.
   56. cardsfanboy Posted: June 28, 2014 at 12:48 AM (#4737876)
Watching the Giants game with my Roku delivering the radio play-by-play, but I'm still subjected to the camera panning around the crowd and zooming in on guys chowing down on nachos, babies drooling, and fans with goofy headgear on. Never, ever, ever any shot of the defensive alignment or even the pitcher scratching his nuts. Why don't they televise a channel with nothing but the people in the stands and the kayakers out in China Basin? Let's compare the ratings, maybe I'm on to something big!


I'm as critical of broadcasts as anyone, but will admit that this year is probably the most competent broadcast of baseball I can remember. Sure it's going from a standard of D- to C, but it's still an improvement. (talking about Cardinal broadcasts)
   57. cardsfanboy Posted: June 28, 2014 at 12:55 AM (#4737877)
Dangit...k-rod blew a save, but Milwaukee still won it....

I still remember the days in which you would get in an argument with someone talking about a reliever blowing a save and they would say "If he would have blown 5 fewer saves, we would have won five more games and made the playoffs"..... bb-ref has pretty much destroyed those arguments with how easy it is to verify those results.
   58. Willie Mayspedester Posted: June 28, 2014 at 12:57 AM (#4737878)
A camera high up behind home plate with a view of the entire field and bleachers would be great for replays of almost every big play.
   59. cardsfanboy Posted: June 28, 2014 at 01:01 AM (#4737879)
You have to be kidding me...Cardinals winning 3-1, man on first bottom of the ninth one out....and my mlb.tv goes kablooie...get it up and running again and "Thank you for watching" I'm assuming we won...but dangit.
   60. cardsfanboy Posted: June 28, 2014 at 01:03 AM (#4737880)
A camera high up behind home plate with a view of the entire field and bleachers would be great for replays of almost every big play.


It's also something I would love to see for the day they start talking about defensive positioning. It ticks me off that they have that view and then never use it. I can't imagine the NFL ignoring the only camera view that shows all the players on the field.
   61. Good cripple hitter Posted: June 28, 2014 at 01:08 AM (#4737882)
I still remember the days in which you would get in an argument with someone talking about a reliever blowing a save and they would say "If he would have blown 5 fewer saves, we would have won five more games and made the playoffs"..... bb-ref has pretty much destroyed those arguments with how easy it is to verify those results.


"The days"? A year or two a writer for the Toronto Star posted an article online saying that the Jays bullpen had blown X saves, with X more wins the team would be in the playoff hunt. I emailed him to politely point out that a blown save ? a loss, with a link to the appropriate baseball-reference gamelogs.

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