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OMNICHATTER 6-4-2014

The Day-Before-The-Draft OMNICHATTER

Gamingboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 12:02 AM | 81 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:49 AM (#4718605)
The Cubs are leaving WGN AM radio after this year. WBBM will take over, and apparently the Cubs can move to the Score if the White Sox leave the Score after 2015.
   2. Davo Dozier Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:29 AM (#4718640)
The Houston Astros have outscored their opponents since April 20th (last 40 games).
   3. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:03 AM (#4718682)
The Houston Astros have outscored their opponents since April 20th (last 40 games).

How can this be? A few weeks ago a long time Primate went on this long-winded tirade about how the Astros were losing on purpose and a general disgrace to the game.
   4. Astroenteritis (tom) Posted: June 04, 2014 at 12:12 PM (#4718753)
How can this be? A few weeks ago a long time Primate went on this long-winded tirade about how the Astros were losing on purpose and a general disgrace to the game.


Ah, but they are only 20-20 in that span, so clearly they are not winning (on purpose, no doubt) enough...except when they don't.
And they have a guy in high-A ball who's killing it, so if they were serious about winning they would call him up. And so on.
   5. salvomania Posted: June 04, 2014 at 12:18 PM (#4718759)
Mike Minor just had a six-pitch first inning.
   6. Batman Posted: June 04, 2014 at 12:21 PM (#4718764)
A perfect inning for Minor and a single by Heyward. It's 9:20 am, and it's already the best day of the season for my fantasy team.
   7. JJ1986 Posted: June 04, 2014 at 12:25 PM (#4718769)
Willie Blomomquist is playing 1B and leading off? The Mariners are clearly trying to lose.
   8. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 04, 2014 at 12:37 PM (#4718782)
Big strike zone in Atlanta. Already has the Seattle bench barking.
   9. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 04, 2014 at 12:51 PM (#4718795)
The Cubs are leaving WGN AM radio after this year.


Wow. The Cubs have been on WGN Radio since NINETEEN TWENTY-FIVE. Even more surprising to me is that it was WGN that initiated the breakup. I guess they needed more space for crazy right-wing talk shows.
   10. DA Baracus Posted: June 04, 2014 at 12:53 PM (#4718798)
Big strike zone in Atlanta. Already has the Seattle bench barking.


Did they forget about last night's game?
   11. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: June 04, 2014 at 02:25 PM (#4718884)
Even more surprising to me is that it was WGN that initiated the breakup. I guess they needed more space for crazy right-wing talk shows.


Too bad Milt Rosenberg is 89 or whatever, and they pushed him out already.
   12. stanmvp48 Posted: June 04, 2014 at 03:05 PM (#4718935)
And Seattle moves into the second Wild Card position.
   13. salvomania Posted: June 04, 2014 at 03:58 PM (#4719024)
Over their last nine games, the Cardinals are 2-0 when they shut out the opposition.

They've lost the the other seven, allowing at least six runs in each.

From 5/28 through 6/2 the Cardinals found themselves, in different games (all at home), down by scores of 7-0, 9-0, 8-0 and 6-0.

(an aside: I would call that "taking the crowd out of the game" except that St. Louis crowds are typically pretty much silent to begin with, at least until they get to two outs and two strikes in the top of the 9th. Seriously, if you ever get a chance, put on a game in St. Louis and marvel at how utterly passive the fans are. Totally reactive---they'll cheer after a good play, but they'll never get a buzz going when, for example, a Cardinal pitcher is about to wriggle out of a jam and has two strikes on the hitter, or there's a couple Cardinals on base and the hitter has fouled off a few 3-2 pitches... if that were Boston, the crowd would be getting loud, but not in St. Louis.)
   14. dr. scott Posted: June 04, 2014 at 04:43 PM (#4719080)
best fans in baseball
   15. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 04, 2014 at 05:47 PM (#4719166)
Through 56 games the Nationals are 26-0 when leading after 9 innings.
   16. salvomania Posted: June 04, 2014 at 05:58 PM (#4719183)
Through 56 games the Nationals are 26-0 when leading after 9 innings.

Still, tied for the worst mark in baseball.
   17. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 07:02 PM (#4719234)
best fans in baseball


Broken record around here. I think Cardinal non-fans bring it up about 13-1 more often than Cardinal fans do(around here it's infinite to one)

Salvo is more or less correct, they are more expressive than he is giving them credit for in exactly the situation he talked about (pitcher trying to get out of a jam) but for the most part they aren't that vocal except towards the end of the game or when an offensive rally is happening that could tie or put the lead up, most of the other time they are (as Salvo put it) reactive.

   18. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 04, 2014 at 07:06 PM (#4719235)
Over their last nine games, the Cardinals are 2-0 when they shut out the opposition.


I would hope so.
   19. theboyqueen Posted: June 04, 2014 at 07:06 PM (#4719237)
So I just start listening to the OAK-NYY game on mlb.com and it defaults to the Yankee broadcast. This is the first time I've ever heard Suzyn Waldman. Her insights are insipid, her voice is grating, and she has a Boston accent of all things. How in the world did she get this job?
   20. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: June 04, 2014 at 07:11 PM (#4719238)
Sit down Rollins, you stupid horse's ass.
   21. simon bedford Posted: June 04, 2014 at 07:17 PM (#4719240)
melky goes deep, 1-0 jays , now its dickey time
   22. simon bedford Posted: June 04, 2014 at 07:21 PM (#4719241)
cabrera goes deep for the tigers on the first pitch he sees from dickey 1-1
   23. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 04, 2014 at 07:26 PM (#4719244)
now its dickey time


Did you just parrot what I said to my wife last night?
   24. simon bedford Posted: June 04, 2014 at 07:35 PM (#4719248)
you married a parrot?
   25. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: June 04, 2014 at 08:10 PM (#4719261)
If Remdon keeps this up, he might win the damn Gold Glove at third.
   26. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: June 04, 2014 at 08:23 PM (#4719267)
Alright Espinsa!!
   27. Depressoteric Posted: June 04, 2014 at 08:25 PM (#4719268)
Espinosa! 2-run double.

I know Danny's the one with the guillotine blade hanging over his head when Harper finally gets back from the DL, but his current avg. notwithstanding he's looked a lot better this season than he during last year's black hole of suck. And his defense at 2B is a huge plus.

EDIT: STEPHEN STRASBURG, CLUTCH HITTER.
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 08:34 PM (#4719271)
Bourjos seems to get hits only if he's been benched for a few days. Jay is the same way, so Matheny should just alternate them every day.

Edit: spoke too soon...
   29. simon bedford Posted: June 04, 2014 at 08:36 PM (#4719272)
porcello is mowing the jays down its already almost the end of the 6th
   30. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 08:41 PM (#4719273)
If Carpenter hits, this team will eventually get on track. (of course I'm saying that as he's the hottest hitter on the team yet have won something like 2 of last 9) But he sets the tone for the team,(obviously as a leadoff hitter that is his job)
   31. simon bedford Posted: June 04, 2014 at 08:42 PM (#4719276)
and on cue porcello gives up a double to melky with two out, walks bautista and gives up a two run double to adam lind 3-2 jays
   32. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: June 04, 2014 at 08:43 PM (#4719277)
The Rice Raker!
   33. AndrewJ Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:00 PM (#4719283)
Sad news: It's being reliably reported on Twitter tonight that Don Zimmer has died.
   34. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:09 PM (#4719286)
Confirmed on YES.
   35. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:10 PM (#4719287)
Marlon Byrd just took a grand tour of Nats Park RF on a Denard Span triple that was held to a double because the Strasburg tour bus was on base ahead of him. 6-2 Nats as the rain continues to fall. When will they call this game? It aint gettin any better.

edit: Geeze, the Phillies look lifeless. 8-2 Nats on a Rendon hard-hit ball to LF.
   36. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:13 PM (#4719289)
Say what you will about the YES announcers - Kay, Leiter & Flaherty tonight - but they immediately incorporated their recollections, interactions & reminisces of Zimmer into the telecast on hearing the news. Zim was the favorite ex-Dodger of many a Yankee fan.
   37. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:16 PM (#4719291)
I love you so much, Ruben Amaro Junior. Never leave us.
   38. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:21 PM (#4719294)
What a difference a week makes. Waino is back on again. Guess he couldn't handle pitching with the era lead.
   39. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:25 PM (#4719297)
With that out by Molina, Carpenter takes over the batting average lead on the team. Or maybe not... Molina still maintains it ever so slightly.
   40. TerpNats Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:29 PM (#4719302)
So I just start listening to the OAK-NYY game on mlb.com and it defaults to the Yankee broadcast. This is the first time I've ever heard Suzyn Waldman. Her insights are insipid, her voice is grating, and she has a Boston accent of all things. How in the world did she get this job?
She's still superior to Sterling, and to be fair, when Suzyn worked as the Yankee beat reporter on WFAN, she actually was pretty good.

P.S. RIP Don Zimmer, who briefly played for the early '60s Senators, although Carpenter and Santangelo have yet to mention his passing -- and when they do, I doubt they'll mention his D.C. connection.
   41. simon bedford Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:31 PM (#4719303)
reyes scores from second on a shallow single to right, former jay davis with the noodle throw to home not even close 4-2 jays
   42. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:43 PM (#4719311)
Really McLaughlin??? Kaufman, Busch and Rogers stadium are the only three stadiums named after a person? I suppose you think Wrigley was named after the gum.
(not to mention Turner Field)
   43. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:46 PM (#4719312)
her voice is grating,


If some on television have a "face made for radio", Waldman on the radio has a "voice made for flag semaphore" ...
   44. bobm Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:49 PM (#4719315)
[42] If Wrigley, how about Chase Field and Miller Park? :)
   45. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:50 PM (#4719316)
Wainwright allows his first hit of the game in the 6th inning. Sure it's the Royals, but considering his last start, it was nice to see a rebound to form.
   46. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:51 PM (#4719317)
If Wrigley, how about Chase Field and Miller Park? :)


Wrigley was named after the owner (in the same way that Busch was named after the owner) not sure that Chase and Miller really qualify for what Mclaughlin was going for.
   47. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:56 PM (#4719322)
Now Carpenter takes the team leading in batting average 4 for 4 with 3 singles and a double.
   48. JJ1986 Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:58 PM (#4719326)
Isn't Rogers named for the corporation too?
   49. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 09:59 PM (#4719327)
Dumbass sacrifice there that worked.
Situation man on second no outs, with the number two hitter up to bat(power hitter who hasn't hit well in Grichuk) sacrifice attempt to the pitcher who decides to go to third and Carpenter(man on second) beats the tag.

Stupid bunt attempt that paid off.
And Cards take the lead as Holliday hit a bouncer over the pitchers head to drive in Carpenter.
   50. DKDC Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:00 PM (#4719328)
And I thought this would be one of those games that slowly slipped away from the Orioles. Boy, was I wrong.

This Rangers lineup isn't exactly scary right now, but when Beltre is hot, it doesn't really metter.
   51. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:04 PM (#4719331)
Isn't Rogers named for the corporation too?


That is what I thought, of course we are talking about Dan McLaughlin, so who knows what the heck he was thinking. It seems he was trying to come up with ballparks named after "living" people like Busch and Kaufmann and since the Cardinals are playing Toronto next, decided it was a good segue to say these are the only parks named after someone.

I immediately thought of Wrigley as it was not named after the corporation but the owner of the Cubs at the time, and considering he just got done talking about Wrigley (Kaufman is the sixth oldest stadium, and the first two are obvious) I figured he would have mentioned it...but he's an idiot and a total tool so of course he thinks of Rogers Centre and not the stadium he just got done talking about a few minutes ago.

   52. simon bedford Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:11 PM (#4719333)
rogers the company is named after ted rogers the recently passed owner, so the name of the staduim is seen as a tribute to ted and not to his company so much, if that makes sense
   53. DKDC Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:14 PM (#4719334)
Failed double steal and that's three outs on the basepaths for the Os tonight.

But fourth time is the charm. 6-5 Os on play at plate.
   54. frannyzoo Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:25 PM (#4719342)
The Yankees might get better sometime this year, but it's damn nice watching them suck right now. Like sippin' Maker's Mark nice right now. Nice.
   55. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:30 PM (#4719346)
Stupid bunt attempt that failed: Yasiel Puig bunt pops out.

Fun Fact: @BRefPlayIndex: Nationals Stephen Strasburg has double-digit strikeouts in 15 of his 88 career games, as did Roger Clemens at the same point.

Phillies at Nats slated to resume at 22:45 ET.
   56. 'Spos Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:30 PM (#4719347)
Isn't Rogers named for the corporation too?


Considering the glee Ted Rogers took in getting the dome for a song ($25 million?), it's a safe bet he was sticking his own damn name on it.
   57. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:36 PM (#4719350)
I'm not sure if the Cardinals caught a break or not.

Man on second steals with a two strike(one out) count, batter swings, tips the ball, it hits the ground, runner safe at third on the steal batter called out. (Umpire didn't see the ball hit the ground)

Royals argue the call, if they call it a tip, then the runner has to go back and he's still batting with a two strike count... I think the Cardinals caught a break(a non-reviewable call, but clearly hit the ground) but it's not a clear advantage.
   58. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:38 PM (#4719351)
Stupid bunt attempt that failed: Yasiel Puig bunt pops out.


WHO THE FREAK bunts with Puig at the plate? Hopefully it's another example of his rogue nature, because I can't imagine there is a manager in baseball dumb enough to make that call.
   59. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:38 PM (#4719352)
Vin Scully telling Zimmer stories.
   60. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:39 PM (#4719353)
rogers the company is named after ted rogers the recently passed owner, so the name of the staduim is seen as a tribute to ted and not to his company so much, if that makes sense


Makes perfect sense and meets the qualifications that I think Mclaughlin was going for.
   61. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:41 PM (#4719357)
Pete Coors owned a piece of the Rockies, but I don't think the stadium was named after him per se.
   62. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:54 PM (#4719365)
Wainwright with 104 pitches is going out to pitch the ninth.... heart of the order of the Royals coming up. I'm guessing he's on the "first man reaches base..." leash and considering the running joke, 10 pitches. (last two complete games by Cardinal pitchers, involved the pitchers asking Matheny for 10 more pitches)
   63. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 10:55 PM (#4719366)
That has to be frustrating. Wainwright strikes out the batter(Hosmer with his 4th strikeout of the night) but the ball gets away and he reaches base.
   64. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:00 PM (#4719368)
Waino loses the complete game opportunity because of some bad luck. And with our pen, good chance he loses the victory also.

Waino with 8 innings, 4 hits, 2 walks currently no runs allowed but has two men on base(although I think since one reached on strikeout if he scores, he doesn't count against his era)
   65. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:02 PM (#4719369)
Rosenthal's only real problem this season has been his walk totals. If he reduces his walks to the same rate as last year, he actually probably has better numbers this year.

Of course he walks the first guy he faces...bases loaded no outs now, Cardinals still have the 2-0 lead but not looking pretty.
   66. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:03 PM (#4719370)
Adam Dunn it again. HR number 459, off Josh à Beckett.
   67. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:04 PM (#4719371)
Why would anyone swing at Rosenthal right now? He has no clue where the ball is going, it's like watching a poor Kyle Farnsworth performance(from years past)

   68. greenback calls it soccer Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:07 PM (#4719374)
LOL. I suppose a dropped third strike is a new way to lose.
   69. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:07 PM (#4719375)
I guess I was wrong...the reached on strikeout does count as an earned run....
and the Royals tie it up. Not to be having sour grapes, but this week has been frustrating watching the luck fairy help out the other team get dinkers and doinkers to drop in. (or just shattering a bat towards the defender trying to turn two)
   70. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:09 PM (#4719377)
hate to agree with McLaughlin, but the umpire has been pretty good and consistent on all the close calls today, assuming the fox track is legit.
   71. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:10 PM (#4719379)
Maybe Rosenthal should stick to tweeting who broke the story first.
   72. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:14 PM (#4719385)
Extra innings against one of the best bullpens in baseball. Not a good sign.
   73. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:18 PM (#4719386)
Cardinal fans will fault Matheny for pulling Wainwright, but it was absolutely the right move to make. If that strikeout was an out, then maybe not, but at that point in time, you have to pull him and go with a fresh arm. Just need Rosenthal to figure out where the strike zone is and avoid a walk. His nibbling is nice when it's working, but with him being a power pitcher, sometimes you just have to make them beat you.
   74. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:21 PM (#4719389)
Horton is schooling McLaughlin who is arguing that Wainwright should have stayed for another batter....Horton:" I don't care who you are, you can name any starting pitcher, Greg Maddux, Pedro whoever, but in the ninth inning, if you allow the first two batters to reach, 99.9% of the time you are going to pull that starter."

   75. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:37 PM (#4719394)
I think they screwed up on the count in the Cardinals game... In the Cardinals favor so I don't mind, but I thought that the sequence of events went ball, strike, bourjos steals on a strike, but apparently one of those strikes was counted as a ball as it was 2-1 after the steal.
   76. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:39 PM (#4719395)
Matt Carpenter with a double to drive in Bourjos...5 for 5, two doubles, and a walk, not a bad afternoon at the ball park. Cardinals up 3-2 in the 11th inning, another 4 more runs and we might be safe with our pen. Hopefully they let Freeman pitch the 11th.
   77. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:44 PM (#4719396)
Carpenter has reached base 10 consecutive plate appearances, 7 hits in a row(3 walks)
record for most base hits in a row is Walt Dropo with 12 (along with Pinky Higgins and John Kling....Bernie Williams had 11 in 2002)
record for consecutive times reaching base is 17 Piggy Ward with 17(1893), Ted Williams with 16.
   78. Lindor Truffles Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:46 PM (#4719398)
Pierzynski gets run really quick for arguing balls and strikes from his C position, by an ump who may or may not be old enough to shave. Weird.

Dave Murphy one-hands a soft liner that an average sized 2B would've caught. I don't watch the BoSox that much but Pedroia's stature cost them two runs there.
   79. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:55 PM (#4719403)
Cardinals got 3 runs in the 11th, not quite the 4 or more I was hoping.
Neshek in to pitch the 11th, he's one of our good relievers, so there is a chance that a three run lead will hold up.
   80. cardsfanboy Posted: June 04, 2014 at 11:59 PM (#4719404)
Yes.... Cardinals win in extra innings 5-2. Finally a nice emotional victory.
   81. Rob_Wood Posted: June 05, 2014 at 12:27 AM (#4719420)
the old steve stone line is that pedroia was playing him too low

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