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OMNICHATTER 6-7-2014

The Day-3-of-the-draft OMNICHATTER

Gamingboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 12:01 AM | 58 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. A triple short of the cycle Posted: June 07, 2014 at 10:27 AM (#4720871)
I think Josh Donaldson is going to be extremely motivated today.
   2. simon bedford Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:05 PM (#4720942)
and bheurle pitches out of a bases loaded jam but does not look sharp early
   3. Chris Fluit Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:09 PM (#4720946)
He doesn't look sharp but he still hasn't given up a run.
   4. simon bedford Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:14 PM (#4720949)
as you were saying
   5. cardsfanboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:14 PM (#4720950)
Grichuk showing off his power potential.
   6. Chris Fluit Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:17 PM (#4720953)
Yeah, that one's on me
   7. simon bedford Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:22 PM (#4720956)
a hr in the rogers center is showing of power the same way punching out a baby is
   8. simon bedford Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:28 PM (#4720958)
nice catch there...
   9. cardsfanboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:28 PM (#4720959)
It was dead center though, figure anything hit dead center is usually a good sign of power.

Grichuk is probably the closest the Cardinals have to a big power bat, even more so than Taveras. Unfortunately he hasn't been able to do anything at the major league level yet.
   10. Paul d mobile Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:37 PM (#4720962)
The way the jays ate playing right now, they might win a game where they're no hit.
   11. simon bedford Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:40 PM (#4720963)
and the jays finally get a hit
   12. Chris Fluit Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:41 PM (#4720965)
Reyes gets the Jays' first hit of the game
   13. cardsfanboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:41 PM (#4720966)
First hit of the game for the Blue Jays in the sixth inning.
   14. Chris Fluit Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:43 PM (#4720968)
Big opportunity right here for Bautista
   15. simon bedford Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:50 PM (#4720971)
chris stop jinxing the jays!!!
   16. Chris Fluit Posted: June 07, 2014 at 02:59 PM (#4720974)
No kidding. Maybe I should compliment a few Cardinal players instead
   17. simon bedford Posted: June 07, 2014 at 03:01 PM (#4720977)
get on their pitcher pdq
   18. simon bedford Posted: June 07, 2014 at 03:09 PM (#4720980)
oh man, walks in a run,,,loop has been poor here
   19. simon bedford Posted: June 07, 2014 at 03:12 PM (#4720982)
and thats the game 4-0 cards and the jays cant hit
   20. cardsfanboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 03:17 PM (#4720984)
Bourjos is a f'ing idiot, but fortunately Cruz picks him up.

What type of thinking process goes "he just walked in a run, and wasn't particularly close on either of the last couple of pitches...so I'm going to swing stupidly at the first pitch..." I can't wait for the Bourjos experiment to be over. Even in games where he does show up offensively, his brain deadness shines right through. I want him to be as good as Angel fans seem to think he is capable of being, but I'm not seeing anything in him that makes me think it's possible.
   21. cardsfanboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4720986)
5-0 Cardinals going into the 8th inning. I'm assuming Shelby is still pitching as his pitch count was low(this is a guy who is usually challenging 100 pitches before the 6th inning, and I think this is now his third start where he's had much better pitch counts)
   22. greenback fixes the cable Posted: June 07, 2014 at 03:30 PM (#4720988)
What type of thinking process goes "he just walked in a run, and wasn't particularly close on either of the last couple of pitches...so I'm going to swing stupidly at the first pitch..."

The guy on the hill is a major league pitcher, so he'll start throwing strikes soon enough. If anything, the hitter can be thinking "he might throw me a get-me-over fastball."
   23. cardsfanboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 03:34 PM (#4720992)
The guy on the hill is a major league pitcher, so he'll start throwing strikes soon enough. If anything, the hitter can be thinking "he might throw me a get-me-over fastball."


And if he would have swung from the heels, like Holliday did on a fastball over the plate, instead of a protective swing on a breaking ball well outside of the strike zone, then I can understand that thought process.

But even Al/Horton remarked, he doesn't have the excuse he was looking for the pitch he swung at. His excuse is he had no plan. Finally when the guy did throw the two fastballs over the middle he kept his bat on the shoulder. Everything in Bourjos bat sequence was wrong.
   24. cardsfanboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 03:45 PM (#4720996)
Shelby Miller with his second career complete game/shutout.
   25. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: June 07, 2014 at 03:47 PM (#4720997)
Kendrys Morales signs with the Twins.
   26. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: June 07, 2014 at 03:49 PM (#4720998)
[25] just after the draft as expected
   27. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: June 07, 2014 at 07:12 PM (#4721082)
Kendrys Morales is going to be the new Twins DH. I had no idea he was still a free agent! Assumed he had caught on with some bad team and/or gotten injured.
   28. A triple short of the cycle Posted: June 07, 2014 at 07:28 PM (#4721089)
California Chrome was never close - couldn't take advantage of the inside early, got boxed in, had to go around 3 horses on the outside, didn't have any finish.
   29. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 07, 2014 at 07:31 PM (#4721094)
I found it hilarious that NBC ran about 4 hours of hype for California Chrome, but as they neared the start of the race their own experts picked other horses (correctly, I might add) to finish ahead of him.
   30. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: June 07, 2014 at 07:45 PM (#4721106)
Dodger season in a nutshell- get two guys out in the bottom of the 7th and then give up the tying run. Get a lead off triple in the 8th and strand him.
   31. cardsfanboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 07:58 PM (#4721116)
I found it hilarious that NBC ran about 4 hours of hype for California Chrome, but as they neared the start of the race their own experts picked other horses (correctly, I might add) to finish ahead of him.


I found it frustrating that NBC has pushed this event for a while, and then when it comes on, our local broadcast preempts it for an hour of weather reports and recommends if we want to watch the race to go to a channel that many people don't have or watch it online...yes, exactly what I want to do, go from my 50" TV to my 17" monitor with crappy sound.
   32. Snowboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 08:00 PM (#4721119)
The starting pitcher for LAA tonight is Shoemaker, who did he ride in the Belmont today?
   33. PASTE does not get put on waivers in August Posted: June 07, 2014 at 08:05 PM (#4721122)
Useful rule of thumb: If the Preakness winner is getting closed in on by another horse as he crosses the line, he won't make the money in the Belmont.

Second useful rule of thumb: Anytime you see this happen and the horse in question also won the Derby, gather together however much money is available to you, and split it evenly among all the horses in the Belmont field who didn't run in the Preakness to show. You will be happy with the results. This is essentially free money because of the absurd betting that invariably gets laid on the favorite.
   34. GordonShumway Posted: June 07, 2014 at 08:26 PM (#4721127)
33: Why?

I don't know anything about horse racing, but would be interested in learning more.
   35. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: June 07, 2014 at 08:29 PM (#4721128)
Ordinarily, thoroughbreds nowadays never run three races as close to each other as the Derby, Preakness and Belmont.

Am I right in thinking that most of the time, none of the horses in the Belmont have run both the Derby and Preakness, unless there's a Derby/Preakness winner whose owner then feels bound to also run in the Belmont? Clear disadvantage to the would-be Triple Crown winner.
   36. PASTE does not get put on waivers in August Posted: June 07, 2014 at 08:34 PM (#4721131)
GordonShumway: in human terms the Preakness is the 100 meter dash, the Belmont is the mile. Only the most tip-top horses can even dream of winning both, and so those horses are the only ones whose owners bother to run them in both (also owing to the fact trainers believe running such races two weeks apart is too much to ask of a horse).

I actually know next to nothing about horse racing; this is very simplistic stuff. Whenever the conditions I mentioned in #33 are met, any idiot can make money without knowing or caring about anything more important than the names of the horses--again, because the betting public goes crazy over a Derby/Preakness winner and bets him down absurd odds (and thus, the rest of the field UP to absurd odds) with no regard for whether said horse actually has the endurance to be a factor in the Belmont (many of them, such as California Chrome, do not).
   37. Jose Bautista Bobblehead Day Posted: June 07, 2014 at 09:15 PM (#4721139)
JIM ######' JOHNSON
   38. Snowboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 09:20 PM (#4721141)
David Ross is standing too far away from the plate when he's in the box. He can't reach strikes on the outside corner, let alone pitches that nibble the outside corner. No wonder he's hitting .170 this year.
   39. PASTE does not get put on waivers in August Posted: June 07, 2014 at 09:32 PM (#4721144)
and bheurle pitches out of a bases loaded jam but does not look sharp early


"Mark Buehrle didn't look sharp today, but only yielded 2 runs over 7 innings..." pretty much summarizes his career.

Nice job by him yielding only 1 over 7, but taking the loss anyway because Shelby Miller was all like, #### that "allowing runs" noise.
   40. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: June 07, 2014 at 10:24 PM (#4721153)
Belmont Park is a dump as a facility.

Hunter Pence has his pants pulled up past his knees.
   41. Dale Sams Posted: June 07, 2014 at 10:36 PM (#4721156)
#38 It doesn't help that he's David Ross.
   42. DA Baracus, Braves Intern Posted: June 07, 2014 at 10:38 PM (#4721157)
Why the #### is Uggla playing.
   43. Every Inge Counts Posted: June 07, 2014 at 10:38 PM (#4721158)
By law the Tigers closer must make a game difficult.
   44. Every Inge Counts Posted: June 07, 2014 at 10:48 PM (#4721164)
God I hate Joe Nathan like I hated Valverde, Jones, Rodney...
   45. Dale Sams Posted: June 07, 2014 at 10:59 PM (#4721168)
Inge what would you give for Miller or (I hate to do it) Uehara?
   46. CFBF Is The Victim of Unfathomable Pinheadery Posted: June 07, 2014 at 11:02 PM (#4721170)
This Uggla nonsense has to stop.
   47. Every Inge Counts Posted: June 07, 2014 at 11:06 PM (#4721171)
I think Joba is going to get a shot to close first. He will likely be the guy they go to on Sunday.
   48. DA Baracus, Braves Intern Posted: June 07, 2014 at 11:19 PM (#4721173)
This Uggla nonsense has to stop.


This game is exhibit A for people who think he's not terrible in the field.
   49. cardsfanboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 11:40 PM (#4721177)
"Mark Buehrle didn't look sharp today, but only yielded 2 runs over 7 innings..." pretty much summarizes his career.


I can't wait to see a game started by Buehrle and Carlos Martinez. It will harken back to the day of 2 hours 15 minute games. Watching Buehrle pitch today and it exaggerates the amount of wasted time that a batter has in the batters box. It's possible I'm paying more attention to it, because of all the talk recently of how to make the game better by speeding it up. But man there are guys on my team that pissed me off today with their wasted rituals (most notably Tony Cruz....and it made me love Matt Holliday more as he jumped right back into the batters box...maybe not Votto like, but at a rate that if the league seriously wanted to improve the time, use him as the average expected.)
   50. cardsfanboy Posted: June 07, 2014 at 11:45 PM (#4721179)
By law the Tigers closer must make a game difficult.


I hate to break it to you, but unless you have been a Yankee fan over the past 20 years or the Braves fan over the past 3....that is something that is pretty standard for every team in baseball.
   51. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 08, 2014 at 12:11 AM (#4721186)
Watching Buehrle pitch today and it exaggerates the amount of wasted time that a batter has in the batters box.


In comparison, Miller was taking a REALLY long time in between pitches early on.

The Jays announcers said that Buehrle lets the catcher make all the pitch selections, and he just concentrates on throwing them.
If that really is the case, that means he's not shaking off any pitches from the catcher, which would also cut down on his time on the mound.
   52. cardsfanboy Posted: June 08, 2014 at 12:22 AM (#4721188)
In comparison, Miller was taking a REALLY long time in between pitches early on.


Agree his first few innings was Miller being Miller, he got better as the game wore on, but I've been watching Carlos Martinez the last couple of weeks and comparing his pace to others on the team, and it's massively better. Wainwright is good, Garcia and Kelly are ok, Miller an Lynn are at times positively Traschel like...well not that bad, but not good....but Martinez as a reliever is fantastic...not sure how that will transfer to him as a starter though.

but this past couple of weeks paying attention to pacing caused by the batters has made me realize that it's not that difficult for baseball to improve the pace of the game if they really wanted to, while still maintaining the commercial breaks.

Seriously, if they wanted to increase the pace, a much more restrictive rules on leaving the batters box to adjust their gloves or whatnot will make a noticeable difference.
   53. Dale Sams Posted: June 08, 2014 at 12:45 AM (#4721192)
Well, Ventura...thanks for that special moment, but you're not going to get far in the playoffs managing like that.
   54. Renegade (((JE))) Posted: June 08, 2014 at 12:52 AM (#4721194)
In fairness, Dale, that was a helluva piece of hitting by Trout. The pitch appeared to be well out of the strike zone.
   55. CFBF Is The Victim of Unfathomable Pinheadery Posted: June 08, 2014 at 12:59 AM (#4721196)
I hate defending BJ Upton, but he has hit into some awful luck the last couple weeks.
   56. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 08, 2014 at 01:18 AM (#4721201)
Just wanted to pop in to say that Mike Trout is really, really, really, really friggin' awesome.
   57. DA Baracus, Braves Intern Posted: June 08, 2014 at 01:27 AM (#4721206)
Good thing I'm already drinking.
   58. Bote Man Posted: June 08, 2014 at 01:41 AM (#4721210)
Giants tie the game on a Pence shot into the LF corner scoring Pagan. IBB to The Panda. Shoulda walked Morse because he just hit one into deep RF to bring home Pence with winning run.

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