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OMNICHATTER 7-1-2014

The Start-Of-July OMNICHATTER

Gamingboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 12:41 AM | 68 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. boteman Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:31 AM (#4740656)
You should've subtitled this "USA! USA! USA! OMNICHATTER"
   2. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 01, 2014 at 12:31 PM (#4740711)
But the WBC isn't for another 3 years.
   3. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 01, 2014 at 01:08 PM (#4740761)
What are the odds that the USA beat Belgium AND the Angels win twice today?
   4. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: July 01, 2014 at 01:30 PM (#4740794)
Fun fact: last night Sean Doolittle gave up 31% of the runs he's surrendered all season.
   5. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: July 01, 2014 at 01:42 PM (#4740810)
And 50% of the walks!
   6. Random Transaction Generator Posted: July 01, 2014 at 02:42 PM (#4740949)
You should've subtitled this "USA! USA! USA! OMNICHATTER"


Ahem.
   7. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 01, 2014 at 03:16 PM (#4741006)
[4] Kershaw gave up 38% of the runs he's given up this season on May 17.
   8. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: July 01, 2014 at 04:46 PM (#4741198)
Jose Altuve has stolen 11 bases (in 11 attempts) in his last 7 games. That included a stretch where he stole multiple bases in 4 straight games--the first player to do so in almost 100 years.
   9. Joey B. Posted: July 01, 2014 at 06:58 PM (#4741506)
How will our "ace" perform today??
   10. Joey B. Posted: July 01, 2014 at 07:30 PM (#4741524)
Nice job WereWerth!
   11. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 01, 2014 at 08:28 PM (#4741564)
#LOLBenRevere'sArm On a fly ball to pretty deep CF, but shy of the warning track, Casey McGehee tags from first and waltzes into second standing up.
   12. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 01, 2014 at 08:29 PM (#4741568)
Jeter's 4th inning double ties Lou Gehrig for Yankee career record (534).
   13. Every Inge Counts Posted: July 01, 2014 at 08:42 PM (#4741577)
J.D. Martinez's resurgence continues.
   14. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: July 01, 2014 at 08:44 PM (#4741579)
The post-Astro bump.
   15. boteman Posted: July 01, 2014 at 08:45 PM (#4741580)
From the I-Hate-the-DH desk, Strasburg just banged a pitch the other way down the RF line, Barnes dove for it, but it was just beyond his glove and rolled all the way to the wall. Nats 3B coach Bobby Henley waved Strasburg to 3B, but he slammed on the brakes about 1/3 of the way and retreated to 2B with a double. Now he looks like he needs an oxygen bottle out there.

Christian Friedrich has not looked sharp tonight, even with HP umpire Foster's wide-ish strike zone. I'm honestly surprised the Nationals have only 3 runs.

And now in the 4th inning Friedrich is gone. To quote Mark Zuckerman:
@ZuckermanCSN: Walt Weiss pulls his starter with an 8.10 ERA, brings in a reliever with a 10.05 ERA. #RockiesBaseball
   16. Joey B. Posted: July 01, 2014 at 08:49 PM (#4741586)
The Rice Raker rakes in two more!

If he isn't one of the very first subs picked for the NL All Star Team, it's a travesty.
   17. Snowboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 08:51 PM (#4741589)
Jeter is 11th all-time in runs scored (2nd active!, guess who is ahead?)
The triv q tonight on YES is that Jeter has 13 seasons of 100+ runs scored, and only one player has more seasons of 100+ - who?
(I guessed Tris Speaker, and can admit when I am wrong.)
   18. Good cripple hitter Posted: July 01, 2014 at 08:57 PM (#4741592)
Any baseball trivia involving an offensive counting stat, consistency, and longevity has to be answered with Henry Aaron. Even if you're wrong, you won't look stupid.

EDIT: not that the answer of Tris Speaker makes you look stupid.
   19. Ulysses S. Fairsmith Posted: July 01, 2014 at 08:59 PM (#4741593)
The Tigers' Rick Porcello entered tonight's game against the A's with a streak of 16 scoreless innings, having thrown a shutout his last time out. Tonight, he's gone seven more scoreless innings and has only thrown 74 pitches.
   20. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:02 PM (#4741596)
That double also allowed Jeter to pass Reggie Jackson for 25th on the career total bases list (4,835). Al Kaline (4,852), Paul Molitor (4,854), Honus Wagner (4,870) & Ted Williams (4,884) are within relatively close range.
   21. boteman Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:03 PM (#4741597)
If you cannot move the Nationals to Coors Field, bring Coors Field to the Nationals. 7-0 after 4 innings and 2 hours. Every starter has a hit except for Ian Desmond.
   22. Every Inge Counts Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:05 PM (#4741599)
At this point and time Rajai Davis should be starting over Austin Jackson, or at least rotating between starting for A-Jax and Hunter.
   23. Snowboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:08 PM (#4741600)
#### YOU, Tris Speaker scored a lot of runs!
EDIT: ahem, thank you for playing. And Aaron *IS* the correct answer, whenever YES gets to it. 15 seasons of 100+ runs scored.
Oh, and, Happy Canada Day.
   24. Every Inge Counts Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:23 PM (#4741608)
Porcello threw his 2nd straight complete game shutout. No strikeouts and no walks as well. That has to be super rare. Only 95 pitches needed.
   25. Ulysses S. Fairsmith Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:28 PM (#4741612)
They just said the last shutout with no strikeouts or walks was by Jeff Ballard in 1989.
   26. boteman Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:29 PM (#4741613)
While "no Ks" doesn't sound as impressive, I like it for the quick game that it produces. Ideally, 3 pitches yield 3 outs and the opposing pitcher has to work again in short order. That can only add to the dominance of the winning team.
   27. Joey B. Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:31 PM (#4741615)
Oof, the Rockies are terrible.
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:31 PM (#4741616)
They just said the last shutout with no strikeouts or walks was by Jeff Ballard in 1989.


The second to last one was by Roger Clemens.

Last 10...
Rk          Player          Date  Tm Opp   Rslt   IP
1     Jeff Ballard    1989
-08-21 BAL MIL W  5-0  9.0
2    Roger Clemens    1987
-07-21 BOS CAL W  3-0  9.0
3       Neil Allen    1986
-07-20 CHW NYY W  8-0  9.0
4    Mike Caldwell    1979
-06-04 MIL CHW W  6-0  9.0
5     Dave Roberts    1978
-05-26 CHC STL W  6-0  9.0
6         Jim Barr    1976
-07-23 SFG HOU W  3-0  9.0
7    Al Fitzmorris    1974
-06-04 KCR BAL W  8-0  9.0
8    Ross Grimsley    1971
-07-18 CIN SDP W  3-0  6.0
9       Dave Koslo 1952
-06-15(2NYG STL W  3-0  7.0
10   Morrie Martin 1951
-07-19(1PHA DET W  5-0  9.0 
   29. Ulysses S. Fairsmith Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:33 PM (#4741617)
Porcello got 17 groundouts. That's his bread and butter. Time of game--2:13.
   30. madvillain Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:36 PM (#4741619)
J.D. Martinez's resurgence continues.


How many rabbits can Dave D pull out of his hat? Seriously, Suarez, JD Martinez, trading honey bucket for Kinsler, come on man.
   31. Snowboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:45 PM (#4741624)
That's a crazy list for Roger Clemens to appear on. Complete game, 0 Ks? That's like finding Duane Kuiper on the "4 HRs in a game" list.
(also: bravo to Porcello)
   32. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 09:52 PM (#4741629)
That's a crazy list for Roger Clemens to appear on. Complete game, 0 Ks? That's like finding Duane Kuiper on the "4 HRs in a game" list.
(also: bravo to Porcello)


since 1914 76 games made the list... some notables Slim Sallee Jack Quinn, Tom Zacharay, and Carl Mays did it three times, Pete Alexander, Chief Bender, Christy Mathewson, and Jesse Haines are other notables.
   33. Joey B. Posted: July 01, 2014 at 10:00 PM (#4741631)
Interesting. Williams is going to use these last couple of innings to experiment with Zimmerman at first base. I like it.
   34. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: July 01, 2014 at 10:06 PM (#4741634)
Bah, Joe Mauer pulled mid-game--is he injured?
   35. Joey B. Posted: July 01, 2014 at 10:28 PM (#4741641)
Fire up the sub horn and keep callin' Papa Johns, it's another big offense Curly W in the books!
   36. salvomania Posted: July 01, 2014 at 10:40 PM (#4741646)
In the space of six consecutive batters for the Mariners in the 6th they had double, double, double, double, single, double. Up 10-1 vs. Houston.
   37. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: July 01, 2014 at 10:42 PM (#4741648)
In the space of six consecutive batters for the Mariners in the 6th they had double, double, double, double, single, double. Up 10-1 vs. Houston.

I hope the guy who hit the single now has to buy all the "double" guys a case of beer, or something.
   38. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 01, 2014 at 10:45 PM (#4741651)
Cliff Floyd and Billy Ripken pouncing on their chance to talk smack about shifting after that infield hit from Holt
   39. Dillon Gee Escape Plan Posted: July 01, 2014 at 10:52 PM (#4741652)
Bah, Joe Mauer pulled mid-game--is he injured?


Oblique strain.
   40. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:09 PM (#4741656)
Cliff Floyd and Billy Ripken pouncing on their chance to talk smack about shifting after that infield hit from Holt


I like to make fun of the shift when it fails, but from the few announcers I have heard this year, it seems that there is a glee for it to fail. A couple of Cardinal announcers like to say "they are messing with something that has worked for over 100 years"... I think that the shift is their new bogeyman to go after.
   41. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:11 PM (#4741657)
McCarver bad mouthing the Cardinals, horrible awful month of June(where they went 14-13)....of course his point was about the offense and not the team results, but still, a game over .500 for a month is not horrible/awful.
   42. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:13 PM (#4741659)
Cardinals get bases loaded, no outs in the fourth inning and proceed to strike out, strikeout. ground out. ..where is the Cardinals version of Teixera to get the sacrifice fly?
   43. greenback calls it soccer Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:15 PM (#4741660)
I don't understand why Matheny put Wondo into the game there.
   44. salvomania Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:16 PM (#4741661)
No no-hitter, but Lincecum is throwing a pretty good game against the Cardinals, tied 0-0 after the top of the 5th in SF.

Birds had the bases loaded and nobody out on a walk on a 3-2 pitch, an against-the-shift single by Adams, and a HBP by Molina, then Lincecum got both Craig and Jay to waive at terrible two-strike breaking balls (Jay's hit home plate) after each took a first-pitch fastball strike to open their at bats. Then with two outs Descalso was up, and I don't need to elaborate.
   45. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:22 PM (#4741664)
That went to #### in a hurry.

No no-hitter, but Lincecum is throwing a pretty good game against the Cardinals, tied 0-0 after the top of the 5th in SF.


Really? I think he has been more lucky than good. Only reason Cardinals didn't score a couple of runs is that he looked real hittable and we were over aggressive.
   46. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:32 PM (#4741669)
f'-ng 11 pitch at bat by Lincecum. If you have to battle a pitcher, it's probable you don't have your best stuff today.
   47. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:38 PM (#4741674)
It's Mike Gonzales, so best stuff ismn't much of a standard.
   48. salvomania Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:41 PM (#4741678)
Really? I think he has been more lucky than good. Only reason Cardinals didn't score a couple of runs is that he looked real hittable and we were over aggressive.

I don't think he's looked all that hittable...through almost 5 inninsg the Cardinals have swing at three first pitches and made outs on all three, but the rest of the first pitches were 11-for-14 called strikes, so Cardinal hitters have almost all been in the hole, and Licecum has had his other pitcches working pretty well, getting a lot of defensive swings from hitters behind in the count.

Their three singles through four innings are two grounders that found holes and Matt Adams hitting a ball to where the SS should have been. They've hit nothing really hard, and their aggressiveness to me seems more like getting fooled with two strikes (see Molina, Craig, Jay).

Meanwhile Lincecum strings together an 11-pitch at bat before grounding out to end the 5th.
   49. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:50 PM (#4741684)
The always fun 7-2-4 triple play turned by the Indians.
   50. salvomania Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:51 PM (#4741685)
After Craig fails to cut off what should have been a single by Pence, doing a barrel roll flop as the ball bounded past him, allowing a runner to score from 1st and Pence to get to 2nd, Jay then runs in, then backpedals on a shallow fly to center by Posey, allowing Pence to tag and go to 3rd.

There's a reason some metrics have the Cardinals with the worst defense in the NL...
   51. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:51 PM (#4741686)
All kinds of confusion on this triple play. Gonzales flies out to LF, Brantley on a dead run fires a pea to nail Gordon at the plate, and the Puig is tagged out trying to sneak up to 2nd base. Puig was originally called safe, replay overturned the call, thus the triple play. I think the umps forgot that the fly out was the first out, as they had the Indians come back on the field for a few seconds.
   52. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:52 PM (#4741687)
The always fun 7-2-4 triple play turned by the Indians.


What the heck??? I'm assuming men on first and third no outs, fly to left, throw home nails the runner, and then the man on first takes off and gets toasted....I just have to wonder how bad of a jump did the guy get off of first base, he should have been half way to second on the throw to the plate.
   53. salvomania Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:52 PM (#4741688)
The All Star break can't come too soon for the Cardinals. They are just a whipped team right now.
   54. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:53 PM (#4741689)
All kinds of confusion on this triple play. Gonzales flies out to LF, Brantley on a dead run fires a pea to nail Gordon at the plate, and the Puig is tagged out trying to sneak up to 2nd base. Puig was originally called safe, replay overturned the call, thus the triple play. I think the umps forgot that the fly out was the first out, as they had the Indians come back on the field for a few seconds.


I almost said "was Puig involved?"
   55. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:54 PM (#4741690)
There's a reason some metrics have the Cardinals with the worst defense in the NL..


What metrics? Everything I've seen has Cardinals usually top five(which is a shock with the cast we have)
   56. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:56 PM (#4741692)
Yes, 1st and 3rd no outs. Scully added some good context. The Dodgers had left the bases loaded in the first two innings, and Scully says that explained Gordon's aggression in tagging (inexplicably, even for Gordon). Puig's jump from 1st towards second had to be obscenely late. As the catcher did get up after tagging Gordon out and paused for a beat before noticing Puig trying to get to 2nd. Puig tagged the second baseman's leg, not the bag, guessing that was a evidence to overturn the call.
   57. salvomania Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:57 PM (#4741694)
According to Lee Sinins' "Fielding Runs Above Average," he has the Cardinals team dead last in the NL, at -28 runs. He has the Rockies at +59.

I have no idea how much stock to put in these numbers, but like I say, it's a metric.
   58. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:59 PM (#4741695)
Baseball prospectus has the Cardinals 4th.
Fangraphs has the Cardinals 3rd.
bb-ref has the Cardinals 4th.
   59. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2014 at 12:04 AM (#4741696)
According to Lee Sinins' "Fielding Runs Above Average," he has the Cardinals team dead last in the NL, at -28 runs. He has the Rockies at +59.

I have no idea how much stock to put in these numbers, but like I say, it's a metric.


Are you sure that is 2014? that would be a massive aberration from everyone else.
   60. salvomania Posted: July 02, 2014 at 12:09 AM (#4741697)
Baseball prospectus has the Cardinals 4th.
Fangraphs has the Cardinals 3rd.
bb-ref has the Cardinals 4th.

Those numbers seem high to me, but what do I know---I just watch every game and spend a lot of time shaking my head.

Adams has been decent at 1st, Molina, as usual, has been good behind the plate, and Peralta makes plays on what he gets to, but his range is pretty limited to my eyes, so he may not be getting to as much as average SS.

Carpenter has been bad at 3b, and the OF has been TERRIBLE---even golden boy Bourjos has looked bad. No arms at all, they must rank near the bottom in all baseball at preventing runners from taking the extra base. As opposed to the Cardinals batters, who can't score from second on a single, their opponents ALWAYS score from second on a single.
   61. salvomania Posted: July 02, 2014 at 12:10 AM (#4741698)
Through June 29:

TEAM TOTALS
1 Rockies 59
2 Mets 21
3 Phillies 14
T4 Marlins 13
T4 Cubs 13
6 Pirates 12
7 Diamondbacks 3
8 Reds -9
9 Braves -10
10 Dodgers -11
11 Padres -13
T12 Nationals -14
T12 Brewers -14
14 Giants -18
15 Cardinals -28

EDIT: Maybe I'm reading Sinins' numbers wrong, maybe "-28" means they've prevented 28 runs, although his stat is called "Fileding Runs Above Average" and Tulo is first at +32, Desmond is worst at -20. Again, I have no idea how he gets these numbers, but it's one metric I saw.
   62. boteman Posted: July 02, 2014 at 12:10 AM (#4741699)
Maness walks Lincecum, although the double play gets the Cards out of it. But...MAN!

Might we be witnessing the Renaissance of Teh Timmeh??
   63. salvomania Posted: July 02, 2014 at 12:15 AM (#4741701)
Cardinals first PH off the bench is Shane Robinson, hitting .128.

Sigh.

Over their last 4-2/3 games, they've been outscored 22-4.
   64. salvomania Posted: July 02, 2014 at 12:18 AM (#4741702)
Might we be witnessing the Renaissance of Teh Timmeh??

Padres are 30th in MLB in runs scored, Cardinals are 28th (didn't think I'd be typing that at any pooint in 2014).
   65. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2014 at 12:33 AM (#4741706)
Those numbers seem high to me, but what do I know---I just watch every game and spend a lot of time shaking my head.

Adams has been decent at 1st, Molina, as usual, has been good behind the plate, and Peralta makes plays on what he gets to, but his range is pretty limited to my eyes, so he may not be getting to as much as average SS.

Carpenter has been bad at 3b, and the OF has been TERRIBLE---even golden boy Bourjos has looked bad. No arms at all, they must rank near the bottom in all baseball at preventing runners from taking the extra base. As opposed to the Cardinals batters, who can't score from second on a single, their opponents ALWAYS score from second on a single.


Peralta has gotten to everything that he can be expected, his range is suspect, but he's been lucky that anything hit to the shortstop side of the field has been within his range. Adams has been excellent. Not Pujols level great, but very good. Second base has been a plus. Catcher has been a plus. Third base has been erratic, I wouldn't say bad, first month of the season Carpenter was probably a plus defender, since then below average, overall I would guess just around average to slightly above. Bourjos has been suspect, but his range has made up for his boneheadedness and errors. Jay has lack of range but has generally been very good on what he can get too, with suspect decision making(a problem for all the outfielders) Craig has been excellent in right...not sure what team you have been watching. Holliday has been better than normal for him, but not really much there.

Agree about the preventing runners from taking extra bases, add in they have constantly made poor decisions on where to throw the ball...but that is such a minor aspect of fielding, I really doubt it hurts their overall numbers.
   66. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2014 at 12:35 AM (#4741707)
EDIT: Maybe I'm reading Sinins' numbers wrong, maybe "-28" means they've prevented 28 runs, although his stat is called "Fileding Runs Above Average" and Tulo is first at +32, Desmond is worst at -20. Again, I have no idea how he gets these numbers, but it's one metric I saw.


I doubt that you are reading it wrong, but that list does look a lot backwards. Giants, Brewers and Cardinals are generally rated as plus defensive teams this year from most systems.
   67. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: July 02, 2014 at 12:38 AM (#4741708)
For posterity, that was the first 7-2-4 triple play since 1986 ( Chicago at Seattle), Ken Phelps hit into it.
   68. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2014 at 12:46 AM (#4741711)
Note: For the record on the Cardinals defense, I do not think it will continue to be this good going forward, as I think luck has factored a lot into how well they have done. The only good defenders the Cardinals have is Molina at catcher, whoever at second(Ellis/Wong)...and a bunch of average defenders who have been lucky to be where the ball was hit. (Sorry Angel fans, but Salvo is right, Bourjos has been less than impressive defensively) You can project Adams and Bourjos as probable plus going forward, just based upon their skills shown over the past(in Adams case, this season) and maybe Carpenter based upon his tools, but nothing on par with what the numbers show the Cardinals are doing this year.

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