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OMNICHATTER 7-10-2014

The “Do Jedi stat-heads have light-SABRs?” OMNICHATTER

Gamingboy Posted: July 09, 2014 at 11:56 PM | 72 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. boteman Posted: July 10, 2014 at 10:23 AM (#4747832)
Dear God:

Please make this "final vote" thing end early and I promise I will never ask you for another thing. EVAH!
   2. Moe Greene Posted: July 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM (#4747978)
The Reds are going for a 5-game sweep over the Cubs today.

I'm guessing a 5-game sweep hasn't happened in awhile.
   3. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: July 10, 2014 at 01:02 PM (#4747987)
There is a good chance the Braves will be swept by the Mets today. The ####### Mets.
   4. Ok, Griffey's Dunn (Nothing Iffey About Griffey) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 02:12 PM (#4748033)
Hey, just what the Reds need, another injured player. Homer Bailey comes up lame pitching to Starlin Castro in the 6th, and is removed from the game.
   5. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 10, 2014 at 03:27 PM (#4748110)
I'm guessing a 5-game sweep hasn't happened in awhile.


I recall the Yankees doing a five game sweep in Boston in 2006. Not sure if there is one more recent than that.
   6. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: July 10, 2014 at 03:43 PM (#4748128)
Barney needs to be traded asap Alcantara needs to stay up here.
   7. Joey B. Posted: July 10, 2014 at 03:44 PM (#4748133)
Matt Garza pitching a pretty damn good game so far...
   8. Ziggy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 04:01 PM (#4748155)
Into the 11th. Tied in chicago.
   9. Ziggy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 04:02 PM (#4748159)
Do you think that we need explicit writing permission from MLB to discuss the events and descriptions of games on OMNICHATTER?
   10. Joey B. Posted: July 10, 2014 at 04:54 PM (#4748226)
Seems like just a couple of weeks ago that the Brewers had a pretty sizable lead in the division, but now they're in free-fall.
   11. esseff Posted: July 10, 2014 at 05:26 PM (#4748248)
Oof. Molina may be done for season.
   12. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: July 10, 2014 at 05:39 PM (#4748263)
The A's should trot out a team of 9 catchers someday
   13. esseff Posted: July 10, 2014 at 05:40 PM (#4748265)
Stephen Vogt is hitting .272 in 257 major-league ABs. That doesn't sound special unless you consider he was 0 for his first 32 and is hitting .311 since.
   14. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 05:57 PM (#4748277)
Oof. Molina may be done for season.


They are saying 8-12 weeks, with it being Molina it wouldn't surprise me if he's back in 6.
   15. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 06:44 PM (#4748315)
A thing I didn't realize was quite this remarkable until I read about it on WHYGAVS: The Pirates are 11-25 against the Brewers, Cardinals and Reds, 36-19 against everyone else. Woof.
   16. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 06:58 PM (#4748325)
Has Dustin Pedroia been having trouble catching up with high-90s heat, or was he just repeatedly guessing offspeed and getting fastballs in that last at-bat against Webb there?

Also, god I hate mid-inning pitching changes. I hate them more and more with every passing day. I can tolerate them when there are a bunch of other games I can switch to, but when I'm stuck with only one game they fill me with the urge to murder and pillage.
   17. dr. scott Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:32 PM (#4748345)
The A's should trot out a team of 9 catchers someday


Not long ago somehow only Norris was starting and he was injured (may have been the Machado game) Jaso and Vogt then began to race to put on their catchers uniform in hopes that the first person to get dressed would be called upon. I think this happened twice in the span on 1 week.

I read that all three catchers have started 4 or 5 times... after Melvin said he saw no reason to ever start all three at once. I think it was when Reddick and Coco were out. Technically there were 4 catchers starting as JD started off as a catcher...
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:37 PM (#4748350)
A thing I didn't realize was quite this remarkable until I read about it on WHYGAVS: The Pirates are 11-25 against the Brewers, Cardinals and Reds, 36-19 against everyone else. Woof.


Strongest division in baseball.... Years ago when people were saying "the Blue Jays or Orioles would be a contender in another division" might apply to the NL central this year (partially facetious with that comment)
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:38 PM (#4748352)
Also, god I hate mid-inning pitching changes. I hate them more and more with every passing day. I can tolerate them when there are a bunch of other games I can switch to, but when I'm stuck with only one game they fill me with the urge to murder and pillage.


That is why I drink lots of liquids...always needing a bathroom break. :)
   20. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:41 PM (#4748354)
No manager should ever be permitted to use three pitchers to pitch to three batters. There is no excuse for it. Managers and players alike need to quit dicking around and play baseball.
   21. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:46 PM (#4748357)
Which of these were not expected:
1. Phils no-hit through 6
2. Phils shutout through 7 2/3
3. Phils score 7 2 out runs in the 8th on their way to a 9-1 victory, sweeping the Brews in 4.
   22. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:49 PM (#4748358)
Whose idea were the numbers on the back of the Braves' uniforms? Can this person be executed?
   23. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:51 PM (#4748359)
No manager should ever be permitted to use three pitchers to pitch to three batters. There is no excuse for it. Managers and players alike need to quit dicking around and play baseball.


I don't really have a problem with that for the most part, it's going to happen, at max, once per team per game. Considering that that situation happens usually with the heart of the order, then it's forgivable. You have the pitcher starting the inning, running into trouble and facing the other teams big bad lefty, bring in the loogy to get him, then there is a good chance that the teams best hitting righty is up next.

The frustrating part is when it's not the big bads of the team but the 7th/8th/9th batters, that bothers me...If you have a loogy and you can't trust him to get out the 80 ops+ right handed hitting shorstop/catcher, then you really need to get a better loogy.
   24. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:53 PM (#4748361)
When the heart of the order is up in a tight situation is exactly the first situation in which you SHOULDN'T allow the manager to dick around with pitching changes. It's a tense moment; make them keep playing baseball.

It's a classic example of something that's a good strategy but bad entertainment. The fans' interests should always come before the managers' interests. Always. Moreover, it's a thing every manager has to deal with equally, if we simply forbid them from changing pitchers mid-inning without a very good reason (meaning "my pitcher has already worked too much in this inning" or "my pitcher is injured").
   25. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:54 PM (#4748363)
3. Phils score 7 2 out runs in the 8th on their way to a 9-1 victory, sweeping the Brews in 4.


Right now, Phillies are my second favorite team in baseball.... Cardinals legitimately have a shot at first place going into the all star break. Back by 1.5 games, with a game today against Pittsburgh, then a three game set against the Brewers... If they win 3 of their next four, no matter what they have first place to themselves.... Still a big if of course, but thanks to the Phils, it's a possibility now.
   26. AndrewJ Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:54 PM (#4748365)
Seems like just a couple of weeks ago that the Brewers had a pretty sizable lead in the division, but now they're in free-fall.

When you get swept at home by the 2014 Phillies, brother, you're officially in free fall.
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:55 PM (#4748367)
When the heart of the order is up in a tight situation is exactly the first situation in which you SHOULDN'T allow the manager to dick around with pitching changes. It's a tense moment; make them keep playing baseball.

It's a classic example of something that's a good strategy but bad entertainment. The fans' interests should always come before the managers' interests. Always. Moreover, it's a thing every manager has to deal with equally, if we simply forbid them from changing pitchers mid-inning without a very good reason (meaning "my pitcher has already worked too much in this inning" or "my pitcher is injured").


Agreed with that for the most part, but I still prefer the best versus the best, and I couldn't support restrictive rules that would reduce the situations that are upsetting to you(and many, many others)
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 07:56 PM (#4748369)
Mind you...regardless of standings at the all star break, every contending team in the NL Centrals, destination is entirely in their own hands.
   29. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:03 PM (#4748373)
Good to hear, Aybar was put on the AL all-star roster. One of the 'bigger' snubs in the game. (and Sale also deserved a spot)
   30. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:08 PM (#4748375)
Cardinal announcers talking about Molina missing the all-star game and possible replacements. Matheny (supposedly)personally called up McGehee and apologized for not picking him. They are wondering if he'll get the pick or if it'll be Matt Adams or someone else?
   31. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:12 PM (#4748378)
Gee, random guys I've never heard of hitting circuit clouts for the Yankees, what a surprise.
   32. esseff Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:16 PM (#4748381)
Cardinal announcers talking about Molina missing the all-star game and possible replacements. Matheny (supposedly)personally called up McGehee and apologized for not picking him. They are wondering if he'll get the pick or if it'll be Matt Adams or someone else?


Posey would seem an obvious choice.
   33. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:18 PM (#4748382)
Posey would seem an obvious choice.


I didn't even realize he didn't make the team. Yes seems obvious. (There are some good offensive numbers being put out by catchers this season)
   34. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:20 PM (#4748384)
Purely random....Ankiel and Suppan just happened to show up to tonights game and are being interviewed in their seats(they are in an area that is empty of fans though...weird in that respect)
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:31 PM (#4748387)
Dan McLaughlin remembering Garret Stephenson's interview after the playoffs(I think it was 2006) in which he said (paraphrase) "we have a great group of guys, good pitching, good hitting and a great f'ing catcher"

Matt Adams with a bloop hit....average of .337 this year....only 10 homeruns, but that is with a two week dl stint. I made a joke in the pre-season prediction thread that Adams would be the league MVP simply because the Cardinals were going to score a ton of runs and he was going to come up with a ton of runners...unfortunately my premise was false, but he's making a case for the team mvp.
   36. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:33 PM (#4748390)
Now the Cardinal announcers are re-writing history....(paraphrase) "with a few lucky bounces, 2006 could have been a sweep the other way"...

No...with a few lucky bounces, the Cardinals might have won one game.
   37. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:37 PM (#4748394)
Wait, what series in 2006 was that? The Cardinals were world champions in 2006.
   38. Lassus Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:38 PM (#4748396)
I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN
   39. Joey B. Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:41 PM (#4748399)
The WerthWerth cuts the deficit to 4-2.

And Big Daddy Desmond makes it 4-3.
   40. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:45 PM (#4748400)
Wow, a really horrible drop on a Pujols fly ball by Rios allows the Angels to blow it open in the second inning.
   41. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:49 PM (#4748403)
Wait, what series in 2006 was that? The Cardinals were world champions in 2006.


Sorry.....misquoted the year...talking about 2004.
   42. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:50 PM (#4748405)
damn pirates....blowing open the game...4-1 Pirates.
   43. Kurt Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:50 PM (#4748407)
Colby Lewis' BABIP might be close to .500 by now.
   44. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:52 PM (#4748408)
LOL cfb, you should know very well that with the Pirates' bullpen involved 4-1 is nowhere near 'blowing open the game'.

Colby Lewis' BABIP might be close to .500 by now.


Aybar's single would have been a routine groundout had Washington not had the infield pulled in. I'm not sure I follow the logic behind pulling the infield in when you're already down by six runs.
   45. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:55 PM (#4748409)
LOL cfb, you should know very well that with the Pirates' bullpen involved 4-1 is nowhere near 'blowing open the game'.


the problem is that the Cardinals offense(last two games excepted) can't score after the 6th inning.
   46. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 08:56 PM (#4748411)
So the resistible force is meeting the movable object, is what you're saying.
   47. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:03 PM (#4748417)
So the resistible force is meeting the movable object, is what you're saying.


Sounds like it....Why does that pharse always remind me of the episode of Knight Rider with Kitt vs Goliath.
   48. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:08 PM (#4748419)
Holy CRAP, Mike F. Trout.

Runner going on 3-2, otherwise decent breaking ball that caught too much plate, but Trout hacked at it and made contact. Off the bat it looked for all the world like a quail that would die into the center fielder's waiting glove about 300 feet out, and perhaps it would have done just that had it come off the bat of any mere mortal. But off the bat of Mike Trout it carried... and carried... right over the center field wall.

It looked like such an innocuous swing, almost an excuse-me swing. He made it look so damn casual.

And Colby Lewis concludes a night's work after allowing 13 runs in 2.1 innings.
   49. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:08 PM (#4748422)
Mike Trout is 3-3 with 4 RBI after three innings, and Kole Calhoun is a homer short of the cycle. 13-2 after 2+ in Texas, the Angels still batting. Wheeeeeeeee. We'll see if even Hector Santiago can hold an 11-run lead.
   50. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:11 PM (#4748424)
Based on his physique and ridiculous athleticism I'm pretty near 100% certain Mike Trout would be heavyweight champion of the world right now, had he pursued that path.
   51. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:11 PM (#4748426)
Lyons has screwed up two plays in a row... Adams should have made the play, but Lyons screwed up with the throw anyway....
   52. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:13 PM (#4748428)
awesome....a 5-8 forceout at second base....
   53. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:15 PM (#4748431)
^ How the hell did that happen? Pirates shifting hijinks?
   54. salvomania Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:16 PM (#4748432)
CF Jon Jay just made a putout at 2b on a bunt 20 feet in front of the plate.
   55. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:16 PM (#4748433)
With 2 hits tonight, Derek Jeter has the 1,000th multi-hit game of his career, behind only Ty Cobb (1,293), Pete Rose (1,225), Stan Musial (1,059), Tris Speaker (1,059) and Hank Aaron (1,046).
   56. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:18 PM (#4748436)
^ How the hell did that happen? Pirates shifting hijinks?


First and second no outs...bunt attempt...semi-high fly ball ball that Carpenter(3rd baseman) lets drop to get the double play(no infield fly rule called) Carpenter picks up the ball and without looking throws to second base...problem was that the shortstop was covering third, and the second baseman was covering first only people on second were the runner and the ump...Carpenter's ball goes to centerfield. Jay sees what is happening and charges the ball and beats the runner on first to second base.
   57. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:20 PM (#4748437)
so in summary, LOL Hurdle'd. Or was it the pitcher batting? Please tell me it was the pitcher batting. (Thanks to where I live, I'm blacked out from all games involving the Phillies, Pirates, Nationals and Orioles, Thanks, MLB!)

Announcerspeak: "Don Kelly has been perfectly placing the ball tonight." It sounds more impressive than "Don Kelly has been lucky on weak contact tonight."
   58. salvomania Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:20 PM (#4748438)
The Cardinals are devolving into a Keystone Kops of Komedic Baseball so far in the post-Molina era.
   59. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:21 PM (#4748439)
Mind you this inning has been...
Leadoff man swinging bunt, pitcher fields and throws a 90mph fast ball low to first base that Adams can't hold.
Second man hits a one bouncer to the pitcher. The pitcher then throws the ball to the second baseman...unfortunately the shortstop was covering second and the second baseman was backing him up.....
Then the third play that was the bunt attempt.
Walk
then Automatic double
and now a wild pitch.... 7-1 Pirates.
   60. salvomania Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:24 PM (#4748443)
7-1 Pirates in an inning that's still going after the Birds muffed a pair of DP opportunities...
   61. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:26 PM (#4748445)
Jeremy Guthrie is repeatedly throwing fastballs WAY up and in on Tigers' hitters (he's hit two and barely missed two so far). There's no intent to it, the ball's just sailing on him, but it's damn near a situation where the umpire may think about throwing him out just for the sake of public safety.

Addendum: Something's wrong with Guthrie. He's throwing all over the place and his delivery is not normal.
   62. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:39 PM (#4748453)
This inning the double play attempt was much better handled. Adams with an unassisted 3/3 dp(fields the ground ball, tags first base, runs after the runner who for some reason decided to run back to first and gets tagged out.
   63. AndrewJ Posted: July 10, 2014 at 09:57 PM (#4748458)
With 2 hits tonight, Derek Jeter has the 1,000th multi-hit game of his career, behind only Ty Cobb (1,293), Pete Rose (1,225), Stan Musial (1,059), Tris Speaker (1,059) and Hank Aaron (1,046).

Item for a future Harper's Index:

Number of games Ty Cobb had more than one hit in his career: 1,293

Number of games Hall of Fame outfielder Chick Hafey played in his career: 1,283
   64. Every Inge Counts Posted: July 10, 2014 at 10:06 PM (#4748465)
Detroit is just pounding on Kansas City right now.
   65. Ziggy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM (#4748487)
Same deal with LAA over TEX. 13 to 2 in the 4th.
   66. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 10, 2014 at 10:41 PM (#4748489)
If I'm calculating it right, Colby Lewis (2.1 IP, 13 H, 13 R, 11 ER, 1 K) recorded a game score of -15. His ERA is now 6.54.
   67. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: July 10, 2014 at 10:42 PM (#4748490)
Aww, no 5-hit game for Trouty.
   68. Every Inge Counts Posted: July 10, 2014 at 11:17 PM (#4748503)
All 11 guys that have played for Detroit tonight has gotten a hit.
   69. Ziggy Posted: July 10, 2014 at 11:46 PM (#4748525)
Kershaw's streak is over. HR by Chase Headley.
   70. Dillon Gee Escape Plan Posted: July 10, 2014 at 11:49 PM (#4748527)
He gave up a run? DFA HIM. Red Sox will gladly take that scrub off the Dodgers' hands.
   71. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 10, 2014 at 11:50 PM (#4748528)
Kershaw's streak is sadly over. 41 innings. And now he needs the offense to right the ship just to get a win in this one.

Edit: Coke to Ziggy.
   72. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: July 11, 2014 at 02:06 AM (#4748553)
With 2 hits tonight, Derek Jeter has the 1,000th multi-hit game of his career, behind only Ty Cobb (1,293), Pete Rose (1,225), Stan Musial (1,059), Tris Speaker (1,059) and Hank Aaron (1,046).

"You tell Derek the first thousand multi-hit games are easy." - Pete Rose

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