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OMNICHATTER 8-25-14

Abbott and Costello meet the OMNICHATTER

Gamingboy Posted: August 25, 2014 at 06:54 AM | 47 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: August 25, 2014 at 01:38 PM (#4778676)
No Dodgers today, so go Rockies!
   2. Davo Dozier Posted: August 25, 2014 at 02:41 PM (#4778739)
You know, if you'd told me at the start of the year that by the end of August the Twins would have a better record than the Red Sox, I'd think that meant my Twins were having one helluva year.
   3. Davo Dozier Posted: August 25, 2014 at 03:36 PM (#4778790)
At the Twins game yesterday, all 9 batters in our lineup had an OPS+ on the year over 100, and 7 of those guys were younger than 28.

So, I guess, there is some reason to be hopeful.
   4. salvomania Posted: August 25, 2014 at 06:52 PM (#4778978)
Someone needs to tell Matheny that when a guy is third in the majors in BA vs. lefties and you're facing a lefty, you shouldn't bench that hitter, even if he himself is a lefty (and he's 2-for-5 in his career against the LHP).

Sure it's just 63 PA, but Jon Jay is htiing .400/.429/.517 vs. LHP in 2014,and for his career he's .286/.353/.368.

He's the Cardinals' hottest hitter, 404/.514/.544 in August with a hit in 14 of his last 15 games.
   5. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 25, 2014 at 07:41 PM (#4778998)
At the Twins game yesterday, all 9 batters in our lineup had an OPS+ on the year over 100, and 7 of those guys were younger than 28.
What's up with Danny Santana? That guy has been scary good since he's been up. Was he really a prospect or something, because I've never heard of him until a few weeks ago.
   6. TerpNats Posted: August 25, 2014 at 08:32 PM (#4779017)
Burnett really on his game tonight -- K's all over the place.
   7. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: August 25, 2014 at 08:35 PM (#4779019)
Looks like the O's are getting out of their hitting funk.
   8. Davo Dozier Posted: August 25, 2014 at 08:41 PM (#4779023)
What's up with Danny Santana? That guy has been scary good since he's been up. Was he really a prospect or something, because I've never heard of him until a few weeks ago.

Not a prospect at all. It really appears like he's just a recipient of a BABIP fluke (currently at .394)...but who knows. He's hitting for a lot more power this year than he has at any other level before, too, though, so who knows? Maybe the move off of shortstop and into the outfield helped him focus more on his hitting? I keep waiting for someone who actually knows something about baseball to chime in on him!

He's kind of like Kevin Kiermaier, where I kept saying "Huh, well, he hit like #### in the minors, surely this hot streak will come to an end soon enough" and it still hasn't happened yet.
   9. Joey B. "disrespects the A" Posted: August 25, 2014 at 08:49 PM (#4779025)
It's kind of annoying that Burnett gets the corners and Roark doesn't for some reason.

And Tony Two Bags cuts the deficit to 2-1.
   10. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 25, 2014 at 08:53 PM (#4779027)
liriano and lackey both tapdancing with the devil tonight
   11. shoelesjoe Posted: August 25, 2014 at 08:59 PM (#4779028)
Orioles with back to back HRs in the 3rd, and then back to back to back in the 5th, by five different hitters. All those runs would have looked mighty good at Wrigley over the weekend, though.
   12. salvomania Posted: August 25, 2014 at 09:13 PM (#4779034)
Love it---after Bourjos K's twice against the lefty Liriano, his spot comes up with two on and two out against righty Jared Hughes, and Jay is sent in to pinch hit and he drills the first strike he sees into left field to tie the game.

Holliday follows up with a two-run single and the Birds go up 3-1.
   13. shoelesjoe Posted: August 25, 2014 at 09:15 PM (#4779036)
Adam Jones with one of the great outfield double plays of the year. Way over the 410 ft. CF wall to rob Longoria of a three run HR, and then throws a strike to 2nd to nail Joyce trying to tag.
   14. Spahn Insane Posted: August 25, 2014 at 10:05 PM (#4779048)
Looks like the O's are getting out of their hitting funk.

Well, they're not facing the North Side pitching juggernaut now.

I kid, but the O's missed Wood and Jackson, who've been hittable to say the least all year, while Arrieta, Hendricks and Wada have been really good. (With Hendricks and Wada pitching as well as they have, the Cubs really haven't missed Samardzija and Hammel at all.)
   15. Ziggy Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM (#4779070)
Why don't managers take pitchers out in the middle of an at-bat? Sipp just gave up a hit and then walked three straight batters in a one-run game. By the time that he gets to 2-0 on the third, why don't you pull him? Maybe it'll piss him off or something, but too f*cking bad, you just gave up a hit and walked two and half batters.
   16. Baldrick Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:09 PM (#4779071)
Top 9th: Oakland
Tony Sipp relieved Josh Fields
Josh Reddick walked
Andy Parrino walked, Josh Reddick to second
Eric Sogard walked, Josh Reddick to third, Andy Parrino to second
Coco Crisp walked, Josh Reddick scored, Andy Parrino to third, Eric Sogard to second

>>

Did that really happen?
   17. AuntBea Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:10 PM (#4779072)
Did he give up a hit? The play-by-play says all 4 guys he faced were walked. And combined, they only swung the bat once (though Sipp did have 6 other called strikes).

Edit: Sipp had only given up 1 walk in his 12 previous outings combined.
   18. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:12 PM (#4779073)
As expected, Garrett Richards' replacement is getting slapped around like a red-headed stepchild. For people who poo-poo'd the impact of losing one guy, tonight's a prime example of what's gonna happen LeBlanc is going to go 3.1 innings. The Angels will have to go into the pen. After a week or so of this noise, you'll have a burned bullpen.
   19. Ziggy Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:14 PM (#4779075)
Also, Eric Sogard does not look like a professional athlete. He looks like...I dunno... a creative writing major.
   20. jobu Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:15 PM (#4779077)
Your American League MVP Josh Donaldson.
   21. Ziggy Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:15 PM (#4779078)
Eh, maybe they all walked. I've been drinking pretty good, not paying that close attention.
   22. Baldrick Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:15 PM (#4779079)
Giancarlo Stanton is...well, he's pretty strong.
   23. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM (#4779080)
Stanton homers, it's 7-0 Marlins. The Angels are gonna fall into a tie with Oakland after tonight. Going forward, does anyone really believe a Richards-less Angel team is as good as the A's? I don't.
   24. Ziggy Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:21 PM (#4779081)
So Sipp gets 4ER while recording zero outs. That'll do nasty things to your ERA.
   25. jobu Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:21 PM (#4779082)
Stanton homers, it's 7-0 Marlins. The Angels are gonna fall into a tie with Oakland after tonight. Going forward, does anyone really believe a Richards-less Angel team is as good as the A's? I don't.


Here's the thing: as an A's fan, I fear the devastation that Mike Trout can wreak. The last couple of years, I worried about opponent pitching, and the Tigers brought the pain. Now, the real worry is that Michael F. Trout will relegate the A's to a 1-game crapshoot. He really does seem to do something major to help his team win most nights.
   26. kthejoker Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM (#4779083)
In good news for the Astros, their AA team in Corpus is winning 23-7 in the 8th.
   27. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM (#4779085)
Being in the Mariners-less hills of Central Oregon, I've been relegated to watching Djokovic just annihilate some poor Argentine in the first round in NYC. Poor kid did a curtain call when he managed to actually win a game in the first set.
   28. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM (#4779086)
Here's the thing: as an A's fan, I fear the devastation that Mike Trout can wreak. The last couple of years, I worried about opponent pitching, and the Tigers brought the pain. Now, the real worry is that Michael F. Trout will relegate the A's to a 1-game crapshoot. He really does seem to do something major to help his team win most nights.
Oh sure, but since the ASG he's at .234/.307/.448, and August 6th he's hitting .186/.244/.400. He's been terrible, and he's looked bad again tonight. I love Trout as much as anyone on this here site, but the Angels have been playing well in spite of him. Going forward, the A's only have to be one game better than the Angels to avoid the crapshoot problem. With the Angels short Richards and his 5, 6 starts, keeping up with the A's is going to be a major, major problem, Trout or no Trout. I fully expect all the LeBlank/Wolf/whomever starts in Richards' place to look just like tonight.

Hell, few more nights like this, and the Angels may not even be a wild card team. I was very fatalistic last week, and tonight's just showed I was right.
   29. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:37 PM (#4779091)
If what you're suggesting is that the Mariners might catch them, I doubt it.
   30. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:38 PM (#4779092)
Also, Sean Casey making fart noises about Aramis Ramirez being a HoF guy, if Beltre gets in. Well, sure, and if Adam Dunn fielded like Keith Hernandez he'd be a HoF guy, too.
   31. greenback calls it soccer Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:39 PM (#4779093)
After a week or so of this noise, you'll have a burned bullpen.

In another week you'll have a platoon of pitchers from Salt Lake.
   32. Ziggy Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:41 PM (#4779094)
Yeah, what's wrong with Trout? Is he just in the funk of a lifetime? The division and the MVP were his for the taking, and it's like he doesn't want either.
   33. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:42 PM (#4779095)
I don't know, LAEHoA.....

For as bad as LeBlanc was tonight - and it was bad - when rosters expand on Monday the burning out the bullpen problem won't be as acute. I really think that a committee plan is the way to go for those Richards' starts. 3 innings for Roth, 2 innings for LeBlanc, 1 or 2 innings for Rasmus, etc. But, I don't think Scioscia has it in him to be that unconventional.

They are 5 up for the WC. I can't see them falling that far back. They are a good team 4 out of 5 nights. Santiago was good last year: his weird first 6 weeks was really the anomaly. Shoemaker looks like he belongs in the middle of the rotation on a contending team, and Weaver and Wilson aren't what they were last year, but they still can go 6 and keep the team close.

Where I too am fatalistic, is here: This team isn't a serious threat in the playoffs now. There, I agree. Their WS hopes tumbled on the dirt in Fenway Park last week. The one overpowering, workhorse starter is gone and that's the breaks. They can't win a WS without him.

But, I think the WC is likely and if they get lucky there, they could make some noise later. There isn't a great team in MLB this year. There just isn't. But, it's really, really unlikely.

"It's mediocrity from here on out".... (paraphrased from my favorite West Wing episode - The Supremes)...
   34. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:44 PM (#4779096)
If what you're suggesting is that the Mariners might catch them, I doubt it.
If the A's pass them, then the Angels don't have just the Mariners to worry about, but Detroit as well. And even beyond the wild card, the difference between a team WITH Richards and a team WITHOUT him in a short series is enormous.
In another week you'll have a platoon of pitchers from Salt Lake.
Are any of them big league starters?
   35. theboyqueen Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:47 PM (#4779097)
The Rangers starting first baseman is...Adam Rosales. Wow.
   36. greenback calls it soccer Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:48 PM (#4779098)
Are any of them big league starters?

Sure, they'll suck, but if the score is 4-4 after five, then you can go to the real pitchers. If it's 7-0, then you just want to get the game over with.
   37. theboyqueen Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:49 PM (#4779102)
What would the Angels give up for Jason Hammel?
   38. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: August 25, 2014 at 11:56 PM (#4779104)
Per David Kaplan, Solar will be up for the cubs tomorrow
   39. Baldrick Posted: August 26, 2014 at 12:01 AM (#4779105)
Oh sure, but since the ASG he's at .234/.307/.448, and August 6th he's hitting .186/.244/.400. He's been terrible, and he's looked bad again tonight. I love Trout as much as anyone on this here site, but the Angels have been playing well in spite of him. Going forward, the A's only have to be one game better than the Angels to avoid the crapshoot problem. With the Angels short Richards and his 5, 6 starts, keeping up with the A's is going to be a major, major problem, Trout or no Trout. I fully expect all the LeBlank/Wolf/whomever starts in Richards' place to look just like tonight.

Hell, few more nights like this, and the Angels may not even be a wild card team. I was very fatalistic last week, and tonight's just showed I was right.

234/307/448 isn't great, obviously. But that guy would be the third or fourth best hitter on the Mariners.

The Angels may or may not win the division. I'd put it right about 50/50. But it would be genuinely shocking if they didn't make the playoffs.
   40. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 26, 2014 at 12:14 AM (#4779107)
The Angels may or may not win the division. I'd put it right about 50/50. But it would be genuinely shocking if they didn't make the playoffs.
See, that's the thing. The Angels haven't hit since the All-Star break. (Cosart's shutting them out tonight.) They've been winning with pitching. Their best pitcher's gone, and their bullpen was being overused even before Richards went down. Yeah, they'll still be the favorite to get into the 1-game playoff, but... so what? They had the best record in baseball. To go from that to "Let's hope we make it past the 1-game playoff" with a dollop of "miss the playoffs completely" now possible is sickening.
   41. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: August 26, 2014 at 12:40 AM (#4779112)
Bartolo Colon has cleared waivers. He has averaged nearly 7 innings a start this year. His ERA+ is poor at 92 but his peripherals are better.
   42. Baldrick Posted: August 26, 2014 at 12:52 AM (#4779114)
See, that's the thing. The Angels haven't hit since the All-Star break. (Cosart's shutting them out tonight.) They've been winning with pitching. Their best pitcher's gone, and their bullpen was being overused even before Richards went down. Yeah, they'll still be the favorite to get into the 1-game playoff, but... so what? They had the best record in baseball. To go from that to "Let's hope we make it past the 1-game playoff" with a dollop of "miss the playoffs completely" now possible is sickening.

Well, the A's had the best record in baseball for most of the season. The Angels caught up to them...and passed them...during this down period.

I just don't believe any single player is that important to any team. Maybe peak Bonds or Ruth or something. But as good as Richards had been this year, I don't think he isn't even in the same ballpark as guys like that.

The offense has been down but has every likelihood of picking back up.
   43. cardsfanboy Posted: August 26, 2014 at 12:54 AM (#4779116)
You know, if you'd told me at the start of the year that by the end of August the Twins would have a better record than the Red Sox, I'd think that meant my Twins were having one helluva year.

As of two days ago, the Twins were leading the league in scoring in the second half...
   44. cardsfanboy Posted: August 26, 2014 at 12:59 AM (#4779118)
As expected, Garrett Richards' replacement is getting slapped around like a red-headed stepchild. For people who poo-poo'd the impact of losing one guy, tonight's a prime example of what's gonna happen LeBlanc is going to go 3.1 innings. The Angels will have to go into the pen. After a week or so of this noise, you'll have a burned bullpen.


Exactly, people like to say "it's only one game, and was going to be roughly 7 starts so at worse the team might lose 2 more games than they would have---" then they tap dance around that comment by saying a player worth 2 wins is 7 starts is having a hof year, and that Richards isn't worth that much etc... while forgetting 1. the cascading effect on the pen from losing a guy who goes deep. 2. that "replacement" level for starting pitchers is a WAY too high. 3. That keeping the score in the 'sweet' zone really improves your chances 4. negative emotional impact on being behind 5-0 in the 4th inning(again). etc.

   45. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 26, 2014 at 01:22 AM (#4779124)
a corollary to the Richards situation is the Brewers sending Estrada to the bullpen

Nelson has had maybe one bad start and been very reliable in giving the team a chance each of his games

Marco was regularly putting the Crew in a hole and burning up the pen

   46. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 26, 2014 at 01:25 AM (#4779125)
Brewers win 10-1
   47. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: August 26, 2014 at 01:33 AM (#4779129)
Bartolo Colon has cleared waivers. He has averaged nearly 7 innings a start this year. His ERA+ is poor at 92 but his peripherals are better.


I think it's the $11m price tag for 2015 that caused no team to claim him.

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