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OMNICHATTER 9-6-2014

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1. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: June 06, 2014 at 03:54 PM (#4720560)

If the season ended today, Washington would have to go to Miami to play the wild card play-in game.

2. dr. scott Posted: June 06, 2014 at 04:10 PM (#4720569)

Would Atl and Mia have to play a playoff first as they are tied? I forget the rules.

3. Rob_Wood Posted: June 06, 2014 at 05:18 PM (#4720626)

did i just wake up from a three-month snooze? (hint: today is d-day)

4. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 07:14 PM (#4720703)

cards off to a quick start 1-0 in the first almost 2 but bautista guns a runner down at home

5. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 07:16 PM (#4720705)

Hop throw from the second baseman to nail Yadier by about 3 steps.

6. JJ1986 Posted: June 06, 2014 at 07:20 PM (#4720708)

Johan Santana out for the year. Was supposed to come back in two weeks or so.

7. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 07:28 PM (#4720713)

tons of pitches and the bases loaded, the jays have oppurtunties here

8. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 07:29 PM (#4720714)

and e squared pops out without advancing a run two down

9. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 07:32 PM (#4720717)

and another pop up , jays get zilch

10. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 07:36 PM (#4720720)

Lynn isn't going to be in this game long, if he can't find the strike zone and is forced to pitch in hitters counts.

11. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 07:47 PM (#4720722)

he is settling down now cards

12. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 07:50 PM (#4720725)

well gose can really fly

13. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 07:51 PM (#4720727)

Holliday plays it better and it's only a double, but man was Gose moving.

14. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:00 PM (#4720729)

glad holiday isnt hurt, that looked bad in realtime

15. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:07 PM (#4720731)

joey bats ties the game

16. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:08 PM (#4720733)

Bautista ties the game up...1-1 3rd inning. The guy doesn't take any swings off. I'm shocked that he has any hits other than homeruns.

17. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:14 PM (#4720734)

So did anyone else see the Cueto pickoff of Utley? The throw had Utley beaten by plenty but I thought St. Utley avoided the tag long enough to get his hand in before the actual tag. But the Phils didn't protest, so maybe I just saw it wrong. Cueto gave up HBP, BB, HBP, 2B, 1B in a row for three runs, which would have been 4 is Utley hadn't gotten picked off.

18. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:16 PM (#4720735)

Holliday makes the play, and as usual it's not pretty, but it's effective.

19. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:25 PM (#4720738)

Fox Sports Midwest picking up tendencies from other Fox broadcasts and focusing on the celebrities in attendance. Geddy Lee is in attendance. Rush is one of the few classic rock bands that doesn't make me want to flip the channel the second they come on. (mind you, they only play Tom Sawyer and Fly by Night on the radio with any frequency so it's not like I'm stuck with a Led Zeppelin droning on for an hour after the song ended type of choice)

20. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:28 PM (#4720739)

wow back to back brain cramps for the cards, instead of the inning over there is two on with one out

21. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:29 PM (#4720740)

Jay totally screwed that defensive play up....

22. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:34 PM (#4720743)

this is why i HATE the jays tv coverage, tabler and martinez have spent the last 2 innings yakking to a visiting Jimmy Key , while ignoring the game entirely, making dull small talk about things that nobody cares about while the jays load the bases with 2 out ,,,they only pick up his at bat after the first pitch,

23. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:36 PM (#4720744)

That is the problem with most TV coverage. If you have seen any of my posts on the game threads, it seems that is my most common complaint.

24. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:44 PM (#4720746)

stroman forgets the runner, and an easy stolen base for holiday

25. Snowboy Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:50 PM (#4720749)

Jays are stranding a boatload of runners, they mentioned it!
Hey, Jimmy Key doesn't visit the booth very often, and the 25th anniversary of the opening of SkyDome doesn't happen very often either. I'd like to hear more about how the ump has a very generous strike zone tonight (up'n'down, and a little bit side to side also) and Lance Lynn is working those edges, and the Jays hitters are obliging by swinging...but it's just one game. By next week they'll be back to droning, but meanwhile I kinda liked the George Bell two Big Macs reminisce.

26. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:53 PM (#4720750)

lawrie goes deep. 2-1

27. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:57 PM (#4720753)

I'm thinking the Cardinals figured they need to score at least 5 runs to make this game competitive, just forgot to inform our "offense" of the game plan.

28. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 09:08 PM (#4720757)

oh jeezus...all the good things I have said about Horton's improvement as an announcer, just went out the window. He just made a celsius joke about how cold it was in Canada and it was 13 degrees.

29. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 09:11 PM (#4720759)

are the cardinals infielders playing this game with actual gold gloves?

30. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 09:12 PM (#4720760)

Our defense is helping the Blue Jays today.

The Cardinals strengths have been failing them as of late.

31. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 09:12 PM (#4720761)

wow triple play!!! nice job cards

32. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 09:13 PM (#4720763)

Cardinals with a triple play.... LOL... crappy defense results in a triple play.

33. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 09:14 PM (#4720764)

Trap play in the infield is not reviewable.
I have yet to see a decent camera angle showing it hit the ground. (of course I've yet to see a decent angle on the play yet, four replays and not one of them was decent)

34. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 09:18 PM (#4720766)

the replay here left no doubt, he caught it. stroman is out, cecil in

35. greenback calls it soccer

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 09:37 PM (#4720768)

Good God, Adam Lind is so pale.

36. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 09:38 PM (#4720769)

You have to love the lefty specialist being brought in and walking the guy he was brought in to beat.

37. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:00 PM (#4720774)

I would love to see the Blue Jays batting in the ninth.

38. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:03 PM (#4720775)

the jays need desperatly to put this away here

39. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:07 PM (#4720776)

Some talking heads on the TV/radio in Toronto called the Blue Jays lineup "relentless", and that really is a good description.

40. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:08 PM (#4720777)

There is a reason Horton will never be a manager... first and third, one out winning by 2-1, infield in, full count and the runner on first is running.... Horton: I don't see why they would be running on that play...

And then the Blue Jays show why they were running on that count as a single was hit to right field, (which would have been a line out if normal defense) and the runner advances to third, he absolutely would not have made it to third if he wasn't running.

41. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:09 PM (#4720778)

bautista just about put this game to bed there

42. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:10 PM (#4720779)

bautista just about put this game to bed there

It's the 2014 early season Cardinals... the game is already put to bed. I don't think they know how to score runs after the 6th inning.

43. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:14 PM (#4720780)

This Jansen guy needs to stop drinking caffeine.

44. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:16 PM (#4720781)

There is a reason Horton will never be a manager... first and third, one out winning by 2-1, infield in, full count and the runner on first is running.... Horton: I don't see why they would be running on that play...

On the Blue Jays broadcast, both Martinez and Tabler were saying (before the foul ball) Pillar should be running on the full count for exactly the reasons you explained.
When he did (and it worked), they said "and that's why you do it".

I think the Jays coverage (on TV with Martinez/Tabler specifically) has definitely gotten better since last year.
The most PAINFUL thing to listen to is the radio coverage when the colour guy (Siddall) is replaced by Duane Ward.
I love him as a Blue Jay, and thank him for all his successes as a player for my favourite team, but OH MY GOD is he terrible as a colour guy.
He has about 5 different cliche statements, and he repeats them over and over again.
And if it isn't one of those, then it's mindless blathering about playing baseball the right way.
I've turned off the radio instead of listening to him.

45. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:16 PM (#4720782)

How can the home team benefit from fan interference?

46. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:16 PM (#4720783)

dont know why toronto should benefit from the fact that their home fans are god damn idiots here

47. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:17 PM (#4720784)

The Rice Raker!!

48. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:18 PM (#4720785)

wow , dreadful , i hate this rule

49. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:18 PM (#4720786)

Way to Bartman that one, moron.

How can the home team benefit from fan interference?

Not everyone in the stands is cheering for the Blue Jays?

50. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:19 PM (#4720787)

bullshitty, of the bullshittest calls of all time.

51. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:19 PM (#4720788)

ward talks too damn fast, and tells to many shaggy dog stories, tabler and martinez are god awful which is an improvement over last year when i watched games with the sound off

52. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:20 PM (#4720789)

Not everyone in the stands is cheering for the Blue Jays?

Maybe not, but I imagine the kid wearing the Blue Jay cap is cheering for the Blue Jays.

53. JJ1986 Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:20 PM (#4720790)

Kevin Burkhardt is calling the Mets game. Not a fan, but Keith Hernandez is taking a very active role in leading the announcing which is cool.

54. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:21 PM (#4720791)

I assume that stupid kid is going to get tossed out of the stadium for interfering during a live play.

55. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:21 PM (#4720792)

Maybe not, but I imagine the kid wearing the Blue Jay cap is cheering for the Blue Jays

Didn't see the baseball cap at first, but did see the red shirt.

56. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:21 PM (#4720793)

for a cardinal fan i would have thought a certain call in 1985 would have been just a tad worse....

57. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:22 PM (#4720794)

We were going to lose the game anyway, but that fan interference call is utter horse crap.

He wasn't going to catch the ball, he was too tentative because of the wall and had already pulled away, the fan didn't affect the flight of the ball, didn't make contact with him, and once again, HE WAS A BLUE JAY fan.

58. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:24 PM (#4720796)

for a cardinal fan i would have thought a certain call in 1985 would have been just a tad worse....

That was a bad call, it wasn't a bad interpretation of the rules. Mistakes happen, I'm fine with them (and if the Cardinals had a real manager, that call would have motivated them to win game seven, instead of just throwing in the towel--because now we have a ready made pity party, which is the only thing that motivates Whiney Herzog) but when the interpretation of the rules goes against common sense, logic etc. then it's full on bullshit (I'll admit that the rules earlier in the season on what constituted a catch, were probably bigger bs calls)

59. simon bedford Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:27 PM (#4720797)

as a semi jays fan i agree entirely it was a bullshit call and said so twice while it was happening, but i think the jays had this

60. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:28 PM (#4720798)

Wow. Two outs in a tie game in the bottom of the tenth and Cruz caught stealing home to end the inning. I actually liked the play. It was coming for a few pitches and Davis had two strikes on him. With the shift he got a huge jump. Orioles wind up with two guys out at the plate in the inning.

61. Yoenis Cespedes, Baseball Savant Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:29 PM (#4720799)

Bottom of the 10th, and Nelson Cruz is thrown out trying to steal home with two outs!

62. cardsfanboy

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:31 PM (#4720801)

as a semi jays fan i agree entirely it was a bullshit call and said so twice while it was happening, but i think the jays had this

Agree entirely. The Cardinals weren't going to come back, but I want all my opportunities.

63. Roger McDowell spit on me! Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:32 PM (#4720802)

Nelson Cruz just tried to steal home in the bottom of the 10th with 2 out and Chris Davis at the plate. A's weren't making a pretense of holding Cruz with a shift on, which was dumb, and Cruz could have gotten an even bigger lead, but Abad kept his cool and Cruz was out. Two plays at the plate in the bottom of the 10th as Markakis also got thrown out trying to score on a hit to RF.

edit - Cokes all around.

64. theboyqueen Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:54 PM (#4720806)

Sean Doolittle is looking like Eckersley right now. K:BB of 42 to 1 for the year.

65. Dale Sams Posted: June 06, 2014 at 10:59 PM (#4720808)

I thought the rule was 'you can't assist a runner'?

66. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 06, 2014 at 11:00 PM (#4720809)

Matt Kemp just hit a drive high off the center field wall - he thought it was out of the park, as did first base coach Davey Lopes, who gave Kemp a low five as he rounded first. But the ball ended up as a double.

The Rockies challenged, charging that Kemp is not allowed to touch the first base coach. The umpires called Kemp out, since the contact was made before Kemp touched first. Never seen that before.

67. Dale Sams Posted: June 06, 2014 at 11:08 PM (#4720811)

Question: When a play is reviewed, the whole play is reviewed right? They don't pull some dumb #### like, "Well, that's not what you challenged" do they?

ex: Let's say on that Matt Kemp play that Kemp was challenged at second, and upon review found to be safe, but the umpires 'discover' he was touched at 1B. Will the umps call him out or safe?

68. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14!

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 11:10 PM (#4720812)

The Orioles' behavior tonight was embarrassing. Maybe they should win something before they crawl up their own ########.

69. Dale Sams Posted: June 06, 2014 at 11:12 PM (#4720813)

Shooty are you referring to the Machado-Donaldson thing? Manny definitely should have just calmly said something to Donaldson along the lines of "Dude, you don't have to break a rib." and if Donaldson is a dick, tell him to enjoy that fastball he's about to get.

70. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14!

Posted: June 06, 2014 at 11:17 PM (#4720815)

Donaldson did nothing wrong. Machado juked forcing Donaldson to reach his arm out a little harder than he meant to. It was nothing. Then god of baseball has to have his pitcher go headhunting because his own guy is a crybaby. Hey Buck, win something and earn that self regard you carry around.

71. PeteF3 Posted: June 06, 2014 at 11:28 PM (#4720816)

Kemp was actually out two ways--he popped up off the base coming out of his slide and the Rockies IF put a tag on him while he was in mid-air. I believe Kemp was credited with a double, so the reversal was based on the tag.

72. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 06, 2014 at 11:34 PM (#4720819)

Yes, the Rockies announcers are saying now that Kemp was officially out from Tulo tagging him after he popped up off second base.

73. theboyqueen Posted: June 06, 2014 at 11:51 PM (#4720824)

Donaldson did nothing wrong. Machado juked forcing Donaldson to reach his arm out a little harder than he meant to. It was nothing. Then god of baseball has to have his pitcher go headhunting because his own guy is a crybaby. Hey Buck, win something and earn that self regard you carry around.

I didn't see the game and only read the highlights, but why was Chen allowed to throw twice at Donaldson with no warning after this happened?

74. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: June 07, 2014 at 12:13 AM (#4720828)

Tanner Roark absolutely doing a number on the Padres again tonight.

75. Depressoteric Posted: June 07, 2014 at 12:14 AM (#4720829)

Sure it's the Padres and all, but the Nationals' Tanner Roark is at only 92 pitches in the 7th inning, pitching a 6-0 shutout. One hit, zero walks, and TEN strikeouts. The best game of his career, easily.

This kid was a nobody last year, and his peripherals still cause sabermetric types to dismiss him, but we're into June now and his 2.95 is the lowest on the entire Nationals' pitching staff. Free money for the Nats.

76. Depressoteric Posted: June 07, 2014 at 12:15 AM (#4720830)

Wait a second...now pitching for the Padres, JASON LANE? As in, former Astros starting outfielder Jason Lane??

When did this happen?

77. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 07, 2014 at 12:25 AM (#4720831)

The Giants are taking bases on the Mets' defensive incompetence. Ho boy.

78. Good cripple hitter Posted: June 07, 2014 at 12:31 AM (#4720832)

Wait a second...now pitching for the Padres, JASON LANE? As in, former Astros starting outfielder Jason Lane??

When did this happen?

Jason Lane, major league pitcher happened last week when he was called up for the first time.

In general, he started pitching 2011/12 in the minor leagues. He was a pitcher in college but he broke his thumb and converted to being a full-time position player.

Here's an article about Lane and Francoeur pitching in the minors.

79. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 07, 2014 at 12:38 AM (#4720834)

Craig Kimbrel looking to complete the extraordinary four-out save.

Just missed an at-bat in the ninth, too.

80. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 07, 2014 at 12:42 AM (#4720835)

Donaldson did nothing wrong. Machado juked forcing Donaldson to reach his arm out a little harder than he meant to. It was nothing.

It was so obviously a normal play that when Machado starts to get all huffy about it, you can see the umpire in the background with a smirk on his face, like he's thinking "You're getting upset about THAT?!"

81. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: June 07, 2014 at 12:45 AM (#4720837)

Kimbrel now the team's all- time leading save man.

82. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama

Posted: June 07, 2014 at 07:11 AM (#4720849)

#44, so you are saying that Duane Ward is the Canadian Gary "Sarge" Matthews? I so don't miss Sarge on the Phillies broadcasts. How their management couldn't see Matthews' gross incompetence and laziness (he prepared nothing) is an indictment of the malaise in that front office.

83. TerpNats Posted: June 07, 2014 at 09:35 AM (#4720861)

Tanner Roark absolutely doing a number on the Padres again tonight.

17 scoreless innings vs. SD this year -- an April 26 shutout at Nationals Park, and now this (11 Ks, three hits, only one until the eighth). And in his previous start, he gave up one run to Texas over seven innings, but had the misfortune of facing Yu Darvish at the top of his game. Once Gonzalez returns (Gio gave up eight runs in a rehab start for Potomac Friday, half of them on a grand slam, but apparently felt healthy afterwards), Roark either will be the best No. 5 starter in the majors or temporarily be installed as the No. 3 or 4 guy until Gonzalez gets in a groove.

84. simon bedford Posted: June 07, 2014 at 09:49 AM (#4720864)

here is the thing on Ward, he babbles endlessly when he doesnt need to, his on air partner eggs him on to tell really irrelevant boring stories ( what about that time you faced kent brbek and he hit a double of you?) BUT in among a mountain of dross he actually is very insightful from time to time, to the point that he has accuartely described a pitchers approach to an entire inning, there is sadly just not enough of it to balance the endless stories about tom henke and kelly gruber

85. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14!

Posted: June 07, 2014 at 10:09 AM (#4720867)

So after sleeping on it and watching the highlights again, I'm more convinced than ever Buck Showalter is a horseshit manager. A hypocrite of the highest order.

86. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: June 07, 2014 at 01:01 PM (#4720915)

Donaldson seems to get into this kind of stuff with other teams more than the rest of the A's put together.
I think he's a little bit of a hothead, but are teams maybe going after him a little bit because he's the A's best player?

87. A triple short of the cycle

Posted: June 07, 2014 at 03:01 PM (#4720976)

I think Machado was embarrassed for making a baserunning blunder, and/or mad at Donaldson for having the effrontery to tag him instead of throwing to first. But it wasn't that hard of a tag, and it's not like he tagged him in the face or something. Machado flipping out like that was nuts. Donaldson was calm and did not take the provocation, or there could have been a brawl. As a reward, Donaldson gets thrown at IN THE HEAD twice his next time up? WTF??

88. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: June 07, 2014 at 05:05 PM (#4721026)

Winning is the best revenge. I hope the A's do absolutely nothing to retaliate - other than win.

89. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 07, 2014 at 06:59 PM (#4721075)

Today's OMNI C. HATTER is active, by the way.

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