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OMNICHATTER can’t come back ‘till the water comes down, for the weekend of September 9-10, 2017

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LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 09, 2017 at 01:01 PM | 184 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 09, 2017 at 01:03 PM (#5529015)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS LOSE TODAY?!
   2. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 01:17 PM (#5529018)
Thankfully, Baseball Think Factory is the one refuge from the onslaught of NFL ALL THE TIME these days. This hotel has MLB Network, which is delight for me since it wrapped up the many interesting baseball events from last night, including Michael A. Taylor's ITP grand slam and the Tigers' triple play. Neat-O!
   3. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 09, 2017 at 01:46 PM (#5529021)
Wait, the NFL starts this week? I thought it was next week. Huh.
   4. BDC Posted: September 09, 2017 at 01:58 PM (#5529026)
Giants play the Cowboys in Arlington tomorrow night. In the past few years I have been fairly excited by the NFL opener (even attended one in 2014) but the concussion issue is starting to wear on me.

A few more NFL comments, and we can drive Bote Man out of his mind :)
   5. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 09, 2017 at 02:11 PM (#5529030)
Thankfully, Baseball Think Factory is the one refuge from the onslaught of NFL ALL THE TIME these days. This hotel has MLB Network, which is delight for me since it wrapped up the many interesting baseball events from last night, including Michael A. Taylor's ITP grand slam and the Tigers' triple play. Neat-O!


Where are you now?
   6. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 09, 2017 at 02:21 PM (#5529033)
Luis Severino since the break: 2.15 ERA, 66 IP, 76K. Not bad. No hits so far today.
   7. Heart of Matt Harvey Posted: September 09, 2017 at 02:22 PM (#5529034)
Dodgers have lost eight straight and 13 of 14. Kinda reminds you of last years Giants collapse.
   8. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 09, 2017 at 02:35 PM (#5529042)
There's a hit ... and the shut-out.
   9. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 09, 2017 at 02:48 PM (#5529046)
the Tigers' triple play
Is it just me or have there been a ####-load of triple plays this year?
   10. Chris Fluit Posted: September 09, 2017 at 02:53 PM (#5529047)
It's not just you.
   11. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 09, 2017 at 03:01 PM (#5529050)
Answering my own question: sortof. 7 thus far -- but 5 of those have come since July 25.

The record since 1901 is apparently 11, done 3 times, most recently in 1979. If I'm reading this SABR link right, there haven't been 8 or more in a season since then (and before that, since 1965).

Edit: The last time there were 7 was 1991. And there hasn't been a season with none since 1974.
   12. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 09, 2017 at 03:21 PM (#5529054)
The Yankees-Rangers started an Noon in Arlington?
   13. BDC Posted: September 09, 2017 at 04:06 PM (#5529063)
The Yankees-Rangers started at Noon in Arlington?

Yes, at 12:05, and finished at 3:05 with a 3-1 Yankee victory.

No idea why so early. Tomorrow's isn't till 2:05, and tomorrow, as noted, there's a Cowboys game across the street at 7:30 tomorrow, nothing going on today.
   14. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 04:08 PM (#5529064)
Where are you now?

I evacuated to the Panhandle, but apparently I'm just so gosh-darned attractive that the friggin hurricane is trending more to the west to follow me. It would be ironic indeed if it ends up staying completely off land and striking up here.

But I brought my Roku with me, which sort of works on the hotel's wired connection for watching baseball with occasional buffer underruns, there's an Ale House within walking distance (which would be useful except for the foaming at the mouth over football season starting), and MLB Network on the hotel cable system. So between those comforts and the liquorhol I'm in pretty good shape!

The local Publix is closing Monday not because of the storm hitting here, but because the last truck was today since their distribution center is in Lakeland and pretty much in the path of the worst of Irma.
   15. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 04:20 PM (#5529067)
Is it just me or have there been a ####-load of triple plays this year?

The one I vividly remember was turned by the Rays against the Yankees in Game 161 (the one before GAME 162--yes, THAT game).
   16. BDC Posted: September 09, 2017 at 04:24 PM (#5529069)
Stay dry, Bote Man, at least externally.
   17. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 09, 2017 at 04:56 PM (#5529076)
I'm in FLL. Just getting hit with the first tropical storm force rain bands.
   18. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 09, 2017 at 04:59 PM (#5529077)
Mike Montgomery is... not very good against the Brewers.

It might just be my imagination, but Grimm is one of those guys who seems to be brought into tough situations and consistently makes them worse.

This one is shaping up to be a laugher.
   19. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 05:05 PM (#5529080)
I'm in FLL. Just getting hit with the first tropical storm force rain bands.

Tornado warning for Broward*, but they shouldof issued a batting practice warning to the Cubbies. I've been splitting my attention between the game on TV and weather stuff. Saw the score, saw the low pitch count, noted a different pitcher's name for the Cubs in the 3rd inning. Yep, not going well at all for them today.

* WUnderground has been slashdotted, so tough to get info out of that site now.

Misirlou: lemme know how things go there, since I left the FLL area when it looked like it was coming there!
   20. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 09, 2017 at 05:05 PM (#5529081)
Update: This one is a laugher.
   21. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 05:16 PM (#5529082)
Cubbies are gonna burn their whole bullpen today, aren't they?
   22. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 09, 2017 at 05:37 PM (#5529087)
Perfect day to use guys like Wilson.
   23. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 05:45 PM (#5529089)
This Cubs game belongs on Comedy Central.
   24. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 09, 2017 at 05:58 PM (#5529095)
If nothing else, they've got a good shot at eclipsing their runs allowed high-water mark on the season.
   25. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 09, 2017 at 06:08 PM (#5529100)
Damn, it only took them 10 minutes to actually tie the season-high.

And here I thought the Cubs would pummel the Brewers today.
   26. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 09, 2017 at 06:09 PM (#5529101)
Matt Olsen is such an impressive hitter. Is a 32% K rate high? Feels totally acceptable for a guy who homers as frequently as he does.
   27. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 06:31 PM (#5529105)
Tyler Clipboard on in the 6th for the dearly departed Charlie Morton and he allows a double to Boog Powell II, ground out, BB, BB, BB to force in another run. Apparently today is not the day for one opponent to pitch well.

If James Hoyt's name was instead Wilhelm Hoyt, he'd be listed in the phone book as Hoyt, Wilhelm.
   28. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 07:14 PM (#5529107)
Jorge Castillo @jorgeccastillo
7 pitches, 7 strikes in a 1-2-3 1st inning for Edwin Jackson. Toasty take: That probably hasn't happened much in his career.

Experts baffled!!
   29. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 07:26 PM (#5529108)
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Giancarlo Stanton hits 54th HR. On this date in 2001, Sammy Sosa hit his 54th (and Barry Bonds hit 63rd). OTD in 1961, Roger Maris hit 56th.
   30. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 08:26 PM (#5529115)
Roger Maris is the only one who doesn't fit in with the LOADED guys.
Stanton is a Mutant !
   31. villageidiom Posted: September 09, 2017 at 08:34 PM (#5529118)
Xander Bogaerts with a Jeterian play, and Moreland making it good.
   32. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 08:52 PM (#5529121)
Carlos Martinez is one strikeout away from recording 200 strikeouts for the season, this will the 18th time a Cardinal pitcher has done it(most recently 2013 by Adam Wainwright)

Wainwright 3 times, Chris Carpenter 1 time, Jose Deleon 2 times, Steve Carlton 1 time, Bob Gibson 9 times and Sam Jones once.
   33. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 08:55 PM (#5529122)
Pirate pitcher obliged Martinez with a strikeout.
   34. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:13 PM (#5529127)
Jesus Fowler !

Amateur !

Just go #### off Fowler, you just cost your TEAM the Playoffs probably.
Stop being such a baby and get traded to the Giants !
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:16 PM (#5529128)
Inside the park homerun by Adam Frazier, it hit high off the centerfield wall/Fowler's glove and Fowler leaped for it and fell and he stayed on the ground, the ball caroomed to the left field, and for some reason Pham didn't move towards the ball, the right fielder had to come over and field it.

   36. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:19 PM (#5529129)
Defensively now, the Cardinals have the best defensive outfield they can muster with three plus centerfield defenders playing in the outfield (and the best defensive centerfielder(Sierra) in the organization is still in the minors, I'm assuming until the playoffs is over)
   37. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:22 PM (#5529131)
the Cardinals have the best defensive outfield they can muster with three plus centerfield defenders playing in the outfield

Fowler leaped for it and fell and he stayed on the ground, the ball caromed to left field, and for some reason Pham didn't move towards the ball, the right fielder had to come over and field it.

Does not compute!
   38. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:26 PM (#5529133)
Who cares, the Nationals are going to win it all anyway !
   39. DaVoice of DaPeople Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:27 PM (#5529134)
Oh my God!!! Alex Gordon just hit an honest-to-God home run--over the fence and everything!!!

That pushes his slugging percentage all the way up to .297!
   40. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:28 PM (#5529136)
Does not compute!


I don't know what Pham was doing on that play, they never showed it, but for some reason he didn't bother to back up Fowler, it was a brainfart...
   41. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:28 PM (#5529137)
Nice one, Matt !

Need Wood ?
   42. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:29 PM (#5529138)
Carpenter makes up for the poor play by Fowler/Pham to tie it up with his 19th hr of the season.
   43. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:30 PM (#5529139)
Carpenter with a $30,000 homerun(every hr he hits is $30,000 for Harvey relief)
   44. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:31 PM (#5529141)
Carpenter with a $30,000 homerun(every hr he hits is $30,000 for Harvey relief)


DO Trump and the tax-payers know about this ?
   45. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:34 PM (#5529143)
How can I get in on that Harvey relief???
   46. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:35 PM (#5529144)
Jesus Christ , Lyons.
Why is it, lefthanders are just crazy freaky good ?!
   47. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:38 PM (#5529145)
Pinch Running for Polanco ... does indeed sound weird.

   48. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:45 PM (#5529149)
Well, if the Cards reach the Playoffs, at least Matheny can't #### it up vs. the Giants !
That's one hell of a bright spot up ahead !
   49. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:49 PM (#5529150)
Jose Martinez professional hitter, hits the ball to the second baseman to advance the go ahead runner to third with only one out. That was quite possibly the most obvious hit the ball to the opposite side to advance the runner that I have seen in a long time.
   50. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:50 PM (#5529151)
And it pays off, Grichuk drives in the run with a tough ground out to third.
   51. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:50 PM (#5529152)
This will be the moment, if the Cards win it all, where they won it all !

Unless the Nats win it all, which they will, of course !
   52. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:52 PM (#5529153)
Top of the 9th coming up with at least a one run lead, and newly acquired Nicasio looks to get the call for the save. Doesn't seem prudent to use a teams former player against them, before you find out if he's actually good enough for your team.
   53. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:54 PM (#5529154)
Damnit Dodgers, stop the bleeding... I'm rooting for you today and tomorrow we can use the help.
   54. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:54 PM (#5529155)
Does not seem comprudent
   55. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:55 PM (#5529156)
It's probably me, but there are a lot of teams with 4 runs right now (Nats, Cardinals, D-backs, Dodgers, Indians and Detroit---of course I guess that is to be expected, out of 30 teams playing right now we have 11 of them with either 4 or 5 runs scored.)
   56. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:56 PM (#5529157)
The Todgers are really one crappy, sad, gloomy kind of Baseball Club !
Hope they keep it up for the next 200 years or so.
   57. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:57 PM (#5529158)
I didn't know the story of Nicasio(being hit by a comebacker and breaking his back) until recently(after we acquired him)....so he's a guy you kinda have to root for.
   58. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 09:59 PM (#5529159)
Any word from Cubs' officials yet ?
Have they given up yet or will try to get a wildcard spot ?
   59. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:04 PM (#5529161)
Nicasio has 3 career saves, comes to the Cardinals and the Cardinals basically say "closer mentality is a myth, you are our closer" and is going for his second save as a Cardinal(second appearance as a Cardinal)....
   60. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:07 PM (#5529162)
Nicasio has 3 career saves


How is that even possible ? My grandma had 3 saves she didnt even know about.
   61. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:08 PM (#5529163)
Nicasio still has a little too much Pittsburgh in him, loving that high and inside pitch...something that the Cardinals try to avoid.
   62. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:10 PM (#5529164)
Well done, 4 save guy !
   63. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:11 PM (#5529165)
How is that even possible ? My grandma had 3 saves she didnt even know about.


Mostly because he's been a starter for most of his major league career(2015 was his first full season as a reliever, and still got 12 starts in 2016. But did lead the league in games in 2017)
   64. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:13 PM (#5529166)
Well done, 4 save guy !


It's 5 now, my comment was how many he had before he became a Cardinal, now in two appearances for the Cardinals he has two saves, prior to that, in 178 relief appearances he had only 3 saves. Of course he hasn't really been a lights out type of guy in that time frame with a career era+ of 94
   65. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:22 PM (#5529167)
You have to love a game where your team gets only 4 hits(Yadier had two of them) and yet score 4 runs.
   66. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:28 PM (#5529169)
Dodgers already mounting a comeback, 4-1 in the fourth but men on second and third and one out with Puig up to bat.
   67. puck Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:28 PM (#5529170)
I didn't know the story of Nicasio(being hit by a comebacker and breaking his back)


Neck, right?
   68. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:30 PM (#5529171)
nevermind,
   69. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:31 PM (#5529172)
Neck, right?


Let me double check. I knew it was something you wouldn't expect, but neck does sound more accurate. Yep, neck.
   70. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:31 PM (#5529173)
Jose Martinez professional hitter, hits the ball to the second baseman to advance the go ahead runner to third with only one out. That was quite possibly the most obvious hit the ball to the opposite side to advance the runner that I have seen in a long time.

If he had that much control over it, why didn't he just hit a liner in the gap? Professional, indeed.
   71. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:32 PM (#5529174)
Here is the play if you want to see it.
   72. puck Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:33 PM (#5529175)
uh oh.
   73. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:45 PM (#5529178)
Story bangs one off the LCF wall, Parra scores the Rockies' 5th run, 5-3 in the 5th. Parra runs like he has a hot poker up his butt.
   74. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:45 PM (#5529179)
Lol, Dodger score three runs, trolling fans into thinking there's a chance they might come back.
   75. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:47 PM (#5529180)
Parra runs like he has a hot poker up his butt.

Does this mean he ran faster or slower than usual? Because I can certainly see where having a hot poker up your butt would give you the motivation to run faster, but logistically speaking, it would probably slow you down quite a bit. Awkward strides and such.
   76. puck Posted: September 09, 2017 at 10:59 PM (#5529184)
Andrew Ethier: still alive. (Pinch hit HR.)
   77. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:02 PM (#5529185)
Awkward strides and such.

DING! DING! DING!

Now a mere Stripling on to pitch the 6th for the Dahhhdgers.
   78. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:02 PM (#5529186)
Lol, Dodger score three runs, trolling fans into thinking there's a chance they might come back.

If there are any actual Dodgers fans around here, they should take encouragement from the last 19 games of this legendary World champion's season. From September 14 through the finale on October 1st, they went 3 and 16, were outscored by 148 to 59, and then swept through the postseason with a loss of only 5 games, going 5 and 3 at home and 6 and 2 on the road. In many ways, it was the most improbable postseason run ever.
   79. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:08 PM (#5529187)
[78] I actually got a reminder today that the 2005 White Sox lost 13.5 games in the standings, dropping their lead from 15 to 1.5 games before rebounding and winning the division by 6 games and going 11-1 in the playoffs. Brandon McCarthy was on that team, too.
   80. phredbird Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:09 PM (#5529188)
the dodgers look like they will not win another game for the rest of the season. it's like they are just not able to do it. this is weird.
   81. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:24 PM (#5529190)
Fernando Rodney might save the Dodgers season. Padres score 6 runs in the ninth, lead AZ 8-7
   82. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:24 PM (#5529191)
Dodgers fans can still rest easy that their closest competition, the Arizona Diamondbacks, is relying on Fernando Rodney to close out baseball games.
   83. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:29 PM (#5529192)
Joc Pederson strikes out meekly to end the 6th. Maybe he should change his name to Compression Shorts Pederson???
   84. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:31 PM (#5529194)
Of course, now the Padres are in a position where they must close out the game. Does San Diego have a closer? Is it this Hand guy? Is there a less interesting franchise in baseball than the San Diego Padres?
   85. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:44 PM (#5529200)
And hand gets out of a bases loaded jam to save it! Magic number down to 11
   86. Baldrick Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:58 PM (#5529201)
Mariners putting up the good fight, striving to return to .500 for the 713th time this year, and to keep themselves within 3 games of the WC.

I get why people find a bunch of mediocre teams scrabbling for the playoffs to be a little unseemly. And I certainly don't think of this M's team as anything remotely approaching good. But even so I have enjoyed watching these games and still feeling like they have a chance, however remote and uninspiring it might be.
   87. cardsfanboy Posted: September 10, 2017 at 12:04 AM (#5529202)
Pujols with a 2 for 3 game in an Angels getting their ass whooped...
   88. Heart of Matt Harvey Posted: September 10, 2017 at 12:26 AM (#5529206)
09 PM (#5529188)
the dodgers look like they will not win another game for the rest of the season. it's like they are just not able to do it. this is weird.

How does a team that looked historically great lose 14 of 15? As Indians are winning 17 in a row.

Very strange season. Wouldnt be surprised if the Twins won the Series.
   89. cardsfanboy Posted: September 10, 2017 at 12:32 AM (#5529208)
Logan Forsythe makes it 6-5 with a solo homerun in the bottom of the 9th. Still no outs.
   90. Heart of Matt Harvey Posted: September 10, 2017 at 12:40 AM (#5529211)
Dodgers longest losing streak in 25 years.
   91. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 10, 2017 at 12:41 AM (#5529212)
This is pretty amazing. Really.
   92. cardsfanboy Posted: September 10, 2017 at 12:44 AM (#5529213)
The dodgers lost is reminiscent of a lot of the Cardinals lost this year... one run game where you came back from a beating to make it interesting, but just couldn't quite overcome the initial deficit.
   93. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 10, 2017 at 12:45 AM (#5529214)
Those Pederson and Granderson at bats in the 9th were something else. Holy #### those guys are messed up at the plate right now. It may be time to just let Verdugo play center.
   94. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 10, 2017 at 12:51 AM (#5529216)
Granderson was picked up, in part, because Pederson has been so bad, right?
   95. cardsfanboy Posted: September 10, 2017 at 12:53 AM (#5529217)
stupid but fun fact, Cardinals over the last ten days are tied with the diamondbacks for the best record in the nl..8-2.
   96. Heart of Matt Harvey Posted: September 10, 2017 at 12:54 AM (#5529218)
Big wins for the Rockies, who now have the same record as the Cubs, and same three game margin over the Brewers and Cards for last playoff spot.

They close the season in Denver against El Lay Down and Die.
   97. Heart of Matt Harvey Posted: September 10, 2017 at 12:58 AM (#5529219)
Granderson was picked up, in part, because Pederson has been so bad, right?

Thats right.

I'd shake things up, start Taylor in center, let Ethier get more AB...

I dunno. Just win a damned game again.
   98. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 10, 2017 at 01:11 AM (#5529220)
Ethier hit a home run tonight, but he's looked cooked. I'd rather roll with Verdugo. Taylor playing center lead to the run in the top of the 9th. But idk, earlier in the year just about everything they did worked out and now it's all going to ####. Taylor, Bellinger, Turner and Seager should play every day until they clinch and Puig, too. Otherwise Idk.
   99. Bote Man Posted: September 10, 2017 at 02:10 PM (#5529308)
Jorge Castillo @jorgeccastillo
Stephen Strasburg is perfect through 3 innings. 34 pitches.

Could the Nationals clinch the NL East via a Strasburg perfect game??
   100. cardsfanboy Posted: September 10, 2017 at 02:38 PM (#5529313)
So which awards are pretty much locked? AL Roy is going to Judge, AL MVP most likely Altuve, NL roy is Bellinger(with apologies to the Rockies pitchers that deserve consideration) NL MVP is tough, Gonzalez, Scherzer, Stanton, Votto, Goldschmidt lead the discussion, but there is no standout guys from there that hit all the checkmarks for MVP. NL Cy is still a toss up(Scherzer, Gonzalez, Kershaw, and Greinke probably top the list, but again no standouts. AL Cy looks to go to Kluber, but Sale is close enough that a return to form could get him consideration.
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