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OMNICHATTER! for the 2019 World Series

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 22, 2019 at 11:00 AM | 1681 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 22, 2019 at 11:04 AM (#5892773)
It's so on.
   2. Bourbon Samurai stays in the fight Posted: October 22, 2019 at 11:05 AM (#5892776)
Let's Go Nats!
   3. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 11:07 AM (#5892777)
When I saw who had the first post, I really expected a different comment.
   4. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 22, 2019 at 11:15 AM (#5892785)
I'm saving my bullets for Opening Day.
   5. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 22, 2019 at 12:01 PM (#5892826)
Best starting pitchers for any World Series in history. This could be a great one.

Trivia question: What 8 World Series matched two 100+ win teams?
   6. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: October 22, 2019 at 12:26 PM (#5892853)
How about 1903 and 1905?
   7. TomH Posted: October 22, 2019 at 12:29 PM (#5892856)
The Astros, 2019 regular season, had a net +300 strikeouts, and +200 walks; which comes out to about "turn 3 base on balls into KOs" (or vice versa, from their pitchers point of view) per game. The effect of this is that of the Astors +280 run advantage on the seaosn, just over half of that is their walks-KOs advantage.

This played out in the ALCS, where they had net +10 KO and 5 BB on the Yankees.

The Nats' biggest weapon might be Steven "33 KOs and 1 BB in the postseason so far" Strasburg.

Go NATS, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if they win; I would put them as about a 3:5 underdog.
   8. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 12:44 PM (#5892866)
I am begrudgingly rooting for the Nats, as I must, as they are from the Senior Circuit. But, ugh.
   9. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 22, 2019 at 12:51 PM (#5892872)
I am begrudgingly rooting for the Nats, as I must, as they are from the Senior Circuit. But, ugh.
This seems like the kind of policy that you could reconsider if it causes you displeasure.
   10. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 12:54 PM (#5892874)
7: Good stuff.

Presumably, the Astros know this and won't just take endless strikes. Of course, Strasburg might get lots of Ks because he makes people swing and miss. I'm sure that's known. If so, the strategy might be to take.

Looking forward to seeing how it plays out.
   11. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: October 22, 2019 at 12:58 PM (#5892876)
Will the Astros finally cave and issue an intentional walk?
   12. PreservedFish Posted: October 22, 2019 at 01:00 PM (#5892878)
I am begrudgingly rooting for the Nats, as I must, as they are from the Senior Circuit. But, ugh.


I tend to prefer the AL teams. I watch my team face off against the Nats like 35 times per year. How am I supposed to like them now?
   13. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 01:03 PM (#5892881)
I have familial ties to the Astros, so that's who I'm rooting for. However, I'd like to see it go 7, as always, and hope for a good performance out of all the starters.
   14. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 01:03 PM (#5892882)
PF, I understand this. I have a personal hierarchy that prevents me from rooting for the AL against the NL, which is why I'm irritated the Cards lost.
   15. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: October 22, 2019 at 01:13 PM (#5892886)
why I'm irritated the Cards lost.

Said nobody I know personally ever
   16. Esoteric Posted: October 22, 2019 at 02:00 PM (#5892907)
I joined this silly site officially back in 2007 (after reading it for years), back when the Nationals were baseball's joke team, even more than the Marlins or the (LOL, in light of later events) the Royals. To see them finally playing in a World Series after all these years, after slavishly following them through the dark era, the NATINALS era, the Elijah Dukes and Odalis Perez (who retired rather than play for the Nats after being their opening-day starter the previous season) and Tony Plush years...look, I'm a 39-year-old married dude with children, but yes, this means so much to me. Maybe we get swept in four. Maybe we lose agonizingly yet again in six or seven. But just being here makes my baseball-loving heart, the eternal kid within me, leap for joy.

LET'S GO NATS.
   17. Esoteric Posted: October 22, 2019 at 02:01 PM (#5892908)
ALSO: Nats in seven.

That's my heart talking, not my brain. But what is fandom for if not having an emotional investment at this point in the season?
   18. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 02:03 PM (#5892911)
Lassus, with respect, if you were rooting for the Cardinals, you've lost the plot.
   19. JJ1986 Posted: October 22, 2019 at 02:37 PM (#5892932)
I'm gonna root for the Nats because the Astros are the worst, and they just won the World Series, and I like Sean Doolittle, and the Nats fans here are mostly cool. I'm not going to be super invested either way, though.
   20. Karl from NY Posted: October 22, 2019 at 02:44 PM (#5892937)
Lassus, you're not alone. I too want deeply to root for the NL against the team that forsook the NL, but yuck I don't want to favor the Nationals.
   21. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 22, 2019 at 03:08 PM (#5892942)
Rosters are out. Astros going with no left-handed pitchers. Nationals subbing in Wander Suero & Joe Ross for Roenis Elias & Austin Voth.
   22. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: October 22, 2019 at 03:12 PM (#5892946)
21--thanks. I think Soto forces at least one intentional walk out of Houston, right?
   23. Tin Angel Posted: October 22, 2019 at 03:22 PM (#5892951)
I just hope everyone has fun and displays good sportsmanship.
   24. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: October 22, 2019 at 03:29 PM (#5892952)
Trivia question: What 8 World Series matched two 100+ win teams?

off the top of my head, I remember the Astros-Dodgers a couple years ago and the Orioles in 69 & 70 (Mets, Reds). That's all I got.
   25. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 22, 2019 at 03:43 PM (#5892955)
1942 Cardinals over Yankees, and 1931 Cardinals over A's.
   26. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 22, 2019 at 03:49 PM (#5892959)
I think Soto forces at least one intentional walk out of Houston, right?
Might be prudent.
   27. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 03:56 PM (#5892965)
Lassus, with respect, if you were rooting for the Cardinals, you've lost the plot.

If it makes you feel better, I'd be rooting for the Braves to lose. And then stay at Sam's house for a month, without ever leaving for any reason.
   28. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 04:03 PM (#5892976)
Our teams have each lost their Sams from the site. Sad.

I'm no friend of the Nationals but the Cardinals? Nope. Not going there. Don't care how nice some of their posters here are.
   29. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 04:24 PM (#5892985)
I guess I'm kind of indifferent to the Cardinals as villains because they are out of the division.
   30. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 22, 2019 at 04:43 PM (#5892991)
I am begrudgingly rooting for the Nats, as I must, as they are from the Senior Circuit. But, ugh.

I'm the exact opposite. I'm sort of rooting for the Astros because they're an AL team and I like lots of their players (Altuve, Springer and Correa in particular) and their disciplined approach to hitting, but the Nats are the one NL I find hard to root against. All the other NL teams are standard issue villains except maybe the Pirates.

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Trivia question: What 8 World Series matched two 100+ win teams?
off the top of my head, I remember the Astros-Dodgers a couple years ago and the Orioles in 69 & 70 (Mets, Reds). That's all I got.

1942 Cardinals over Yankees, and 1931 Cardinals over A's.

That's not a bad start. Two of the others are earlier and close together, and the last one is close to one of the ones already mentioned. There weren't any such matchups between 1970 and 2017, in part because in six different years there were 100+ win teams that never survived the earlier rounds, and in one case (2005) two of them. The Braves (1997-98) and the Yankees (2004-05) have the distinction of having two consecutive 100+ win teams knocked out early.
   31. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 04:45 PM (#5892992)
I don't think you drink but I'm blanking on how you've forgotten 2006. And you're old enough to remember pre-re-alignment.
   32. Howie Menckel Posted: October 22, 2019 at 04:50 PM (#5892997)
best World Series pitching roations ever? I think so

first time both teams have a pair of 5-WAR starting pitchers in the same year - AND the Nationals have 3 and the Astros have 2 plus Greinke.

oh, DraftKings offering me +170 on Nationals tonight and +192 - almost 2 to 1 against - for the Series.

so I can bet $100 tonight and if Nats win I have $270 (I keep my $100 and win $170).
or $100 for Series and if Nats win I have $292 (I keep my $100 and win $192).
   33. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 04:58 PM (#5893001)
I do not blame the Cardinals for 2006. I blame the Mets for failing Endy Chavez.

And we got Keith from the Cards.

I just don't see them as overwhelming Mets Villains. I'm more upset about the Dodgers in 1987.
   34. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: October 22, 2019 at 05:03 PM (#5893003)
33: Does this help?

Ok every team has terrible fans. But I had to take the shot as it was just sitting there
   35. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 22, 2019 at 05:05 PM (#5893004)
I fear the gamblers have their hooks in poor Howie, but those are pretty good odds for the Nationals. Not quite “Bivens Odds”, but more than warranted, IMHO.
   36. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 05:13 PM (#5893007)
Go Nats!

I'm usually an AL guy, but the Astros have won it so recently and the Nats are a good story so far. Both teams have some players that I really like so that aspect is evenly split.

I really like watching Rendon though. He makes stuff just look so easy. He reminds me of that kid who grew up in the kind of weird/alternative family who was a bit quiet and when asked to play any sport he'd stand there not quite getting the initial position/stance/location right but when the action came his way; holy smokes he was far and away the best kid on the lot.
   37. pikepredator Posted: October 22, 2019 at 05:44 PM (#5893014)
This is a fun one for me as I love great starting pitching and young, exciting hitters. I expect my rooting interest to evolve as the series progresses.

I'm sort of rooting for the Astros because they're an AL team and I like lots of their players (Altuve, Springer and Correa in particular) and their disciplined approach to hitting, but the Nats are the one NL I find hard to root against.


Couldn't agree more!
   38. Tony S Posted: October 22, 2019 at 06:50 PM (#5893043)
I've been an Astros fan since the Skip Jutze and Doug Konieczny era, so of course I'm rooting for my team to build a dynasty.

But I live two counties away from DC and I enjoy the Nats. And there's something karmic about them finally making the World Series after Bryce Harper skipped town.

So a Nats win wouldn't make me miserable the way losing to the Yankees would have. Make sure you all remind me of that when I hurl heavy objects across the room after Soto takes Cole deep...
   39. yo la tengo Posted: October 22, 2019 at 07:08 PM (#5893050)
Lassus - do you mean Dodgers in 88. The Scioscia HR, right?
   40. Howie Menckel Posted: October 22, 2019 at 07:08 PM (#5893051)
I fear the gamblers have their hooks in poor Howie

heh.

let's just say it helps to have parents who grew up flat broke during the Great Depression. it would take me months to bet a total of $100!
   41. yo la tengo Posted: October 22, 2019 at 07:09 PM (#5893053)
One of my pals is a die hard DC sports fan and has adopted the Nats as his baseball team. He is convinced that Max will give up a 1st inning HR. He hopes it is Springer to minimize the damage
   42. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 22, 2019 at 07:38 PM (#5893058)
I tend to root for the NL team in the WS because I'm a Reds fan (if the Mariners ever make the Series I'd probably root for them unless they played the Reds). But the Expos were for a long time my second favorite NL team, and even if they're not the Expos any more, that confirms my inclination to root for the Nats in the WS. Allons-y Nationals!
   43. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 07:44 PM (#5893061)
A battle between Warhol and Picasso is no battle, A-Rod.

#39 - yes, phone typo.
   44. The Run Fairy Posted: October 22, 2019 at 07:52 PM (#5893063)
A battle between Warhol and Picasso is no battle, A-Rod.


Yeah, Warhol had lots of boxing experience.
   45. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 07:54 PM (#5893065)
Houston Avengers!
   46. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 07:56 PM (#5893067)
Nice bit for Eric Cooper.
   47. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 07:57 PM (#5893069)
Already flat.
   48. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: October 22, 2019 at 07:59 PM (#5893070)
Meh, another World Series. I *might* watch it.
   49. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 07:59 PM (#5893072)
Meh. C+.
   50. Bourbon Samurai stays in the fight Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:12 PM (#5893080)
Running game is off and then Eaton wastes a bunt
   51. Hey - you and Tommy Lasorda...I hate Tommy Lasorda Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:12 PM (#5893081)
FREE TACO
   52. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:15 PM (#5893083)
Trea Turner, Taco Hero.
   53. Tin Angel Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:20 PM (#5893085)
Free food poisoning Oct. 30th!
   54. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:25 PM (#5893087)
Max cranked it up to 11, as usual, and then kept turning it.

Also, Eaton...and Eaton: QUIT BUNTING, YOU IDIOT!
   55. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:28 PM (#5893089)
Altuve should have been at second
   56. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:31 PM (#5893092)
well that didn't take long...
   57. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:31 PM (#5893093)
If he knows how important it is not to let the Astros score maybe he shouldn’t have walked the lead off man.
   58. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:32 PM (#5893094)
Love the audible grunts, love the incredible work to get the double on a killer fastball. Love baseball. So ####### hard
   59. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:34 PM (#5893095)
Credit to the Houston crowd. So into it
   60. yo la tengo Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:34 PM (#5893096)
Well, Max did not give up a HR but he did let two runs in right away. Let's hope he can settle down. Would love these games to be close. Don't have a strong rooting interest, my default is to root for the NL team even when they are division rivals like the Nats are. How many games did the Nats best the Mets by this year?
   61. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:41 PM (#5893099)
wow, Zimmerman. Nice way to start your World Series
   62. Bourbon Samurai stays in the fight Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:41 PM (#5893100)
Fittingly the Nats first world series home run is Ryan Zimmerman
   63. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:42 PM (#5893101)
I had to go food shopping. I guess I missed some things.
   64. Hey - you and Tommy Lasorda...I hate Tommy Lasorda Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:44 PM (#5893103)
Only some of the vets got a break Joe? Were the rest of them moonlighting in the Arizona Fall League?
   65. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:45 PM (#5893105)
Wow, super play by Correa with Bregman kind of blocking his line of sight as the ball came to him. Nice play by 1B with the tag
   66. Tony S Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:46 PM (#5893106)
Well at least it was a solo shot. And Ryan Zimmerman is unrootable against.
   67. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:46 PM (#5893107)
I had to go food shopping. I guess I missed some things.

The ONE time of the year when you should've ordered from Amazon or sumpin!
   68. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:48 PM (#5893109)
Well Bote, Eso, Samurai... now that Max has given away his 2 early runs, maybe he'll settle. At least you know your guys can hit Cole.
   69. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:50 PM (#5893111)
Eh, bugger. He BB'd Alvarez. He's been struggling with the wood, I would've figured Max would come right at him with this recent struggles.
   70. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:57 PM (#5893118)
Max looks to be overthrowing? Does he do that often?
   71. yo la tengo Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:57 PM (#5893119)
Max is throwing a crap ton of pitches. Not promising
   72. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:58 PM (#5893120)
Max definitely not on tonight
   73. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 08:58 PM (#5893121)
Nice pitch to catch Springer looking though....
   74. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:01 PM (#5893124)
Anyone not Pro-Nats is a jerk, a total kneebiter ! IMHO!
   75. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:03 PM (#5893125)
Max is good enough to be really good when he’s off. But he’s off.
   76. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:05 PM (#5893126)
Great hit by Eaton
   77. Tony S Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:09 PM (#5893129)
The outfield was playing Rendon awfully shallow I thought.
   78. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:09 PM (#5893130)
Joe got a bit excited there. Need to watch the outfielders Joey.
   79. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:18 PM (#5893136)
Max just gave Bregman a clinic on pitching. One on the outside egde, one on the inside edge, then got him to chase a slightly high one. Just maestro like.
   80. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:19 PM (#5893137)
Should have thrown to third.
   81. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:20 PM (#5893138)
That was a weird play
   82. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:20 PM (#5893139)
How do you not score on that? You could see Brantley just jogging his way to second, then speed up when he thought it might fall.
   83. SoSH U at work Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:21 PM (#5893140)
That was a terrible attempt.
   84. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:22 PM (#5893141)
Hmmmm. KIND of a good no call, but nobody thought to put in the ear of anyone that it was the RUNNER who probably touched the coach with HIS hand, not vice-versa.

Also, the fielder over-ran the ball.

These announcers suck.
   85. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:23 PM (#5893142)
83--thanks. I was trying to be nice which is not really my thing
   86. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:25 PM (#5893143)
Max really battling away clearly without any rhythm at all. He'll be lucky to last through 5 at this pace, but keeping it close.
   87. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:27 PM (#5893144)
SOTO!
   88. puck Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:27 PM (#5893145)
Well, that was well hit by Soto.
   89. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:27 PM (#5893146)
Soto just tagged that one. Did did ever come down?
   90. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:28 PM (#5893147)
WOW
   91. yo la tengo Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:28 PM (#5893148)
Holy crap he hit that a ton
   92. yo la tengo Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:28 PM (#5893149)
Did Cole give up a run against the Yanks at all?
   93. Tony S Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:29 PM (#5893150)
Cole scuffling just as much as Scherzer.
   94. Lassus Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:29 PM (#5893151)
Pitchers' World Series! No runs will be scored!
   95. Esoteric Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:30 PM (#5893152)
Soto is 20 years old. I just keep having to remind myself of that.
   96. Tony S Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:31 PM (#5893153)
Soto's homer has joined Pujols' 2005 shot off Lidge in orbit.
   97. SoSH U at work Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:32 PM (#5893154)
You're not supposed to be able to hit the ball that far the opposite way.
   98. bunyon Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:32 PM (#5893155)
That was cool. Good pitching beats good hitting. But it doesn’t shut it out.
   99. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:34 PM (#5893156)
You're not supposed to be able to hit the ball that far the opposite way.


The Juiced Ball is back!
   100. Where have you gone Brady Anderson? Posted: October 22, 2019 at 09:34 PM (#5893157)
I grew up inside the Beltway, and my dad grew up a Senators fan. I started rooting for the Red Sox before the Nationals moved, so I root for both. I’m kind of like Esoteric, (down to being a 39 year old with kids), it means so much that the Nationals are in the series. If they win it would one of the greatest days of my sports life.
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