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Saturday, August 04, 2018

OMNICHATTER for the weekend of July August 4-5, 2018

Scoreboards for the Major Leagues and all minor leagues,
courtesy of Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee).

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   1. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 04, 2018 at 12:13 PM (#5720872)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS LOSE TODAY?!
   2. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 12:20 PM (#5720876)
Just saw that Javy Baez is leading the NL in OWAR.
   3. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 04, 2018 at 12:40 PM (#5720885)
Yankees Red Sox 4:05 PM Adams (0-0) Eovaldi (4-4)

Please omit flowers.
   4. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 04, 2018 at 12:41 PM (#5720886)
I don't understand how javy only has 0.3dwar. I am utterly convinced it's wrong on his defense.
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 04, 2018 at 12:47 PM (#5720890)
Please omit flowers.

What difference does it make? The game is utterly meaningless. The Yankees aren't catching Boston, and it's highly unlikely that they collapse so bad that they're within a couple of games of Oak/Sea.
   6. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 01:03 PM (#5720895)
I don't understand how javy only has 0.3dwar. I am utterly convinced it's wrong on his defense.


He almost singlehandedly saved a run in a 1 run win (not to mention homering and tripling and scoring 2 runs). I asked in the chatter if the defensive metrics score the play were he threw out Jankowski at home any different than if he merely threw to first to retire the batter. Or do they just consider, routine grounder, got an assist. And they almost certainly don't consider his earlier deke of Jankowski to keep him at second on the Cishek error, which kept him from scoring on the next play.
   7. DavidFoss Posted: August 04, 2018 at 01:37 PM (#5720906)
So evidently, this trivia tidbit is going around saying that deGrom is the first pitcher with a losing record and a sub-2.00 ERA after 22 starts in 102 years. I am hunting and pecking in 1916 game logs without any luck. My search is not systematic, though. Anyone know who was the last to do it?
   8. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 04, 2018 at 01:37 PM (#5720907)
Gio doing Gio things. 1-0 Reds in the top 2nd, but even pitcher deSclafani got a dying quail base hit off him. He's keeping his outfielders running so far today.

Of course, not even Juan Soto can field that one because it just landed in the bullpen. Make that 4-0 Reds top 2nd.

With this being the only game going right now the entire world can witness why I'm even less optimistic about the Nationals' chances for the post-season than snapper is about the Yankees'.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 04, 2018 at 01:41 PM (#5720909)
With this being the only game going right now the entire world can witness why I'm even less optimistic about the Nationals' chances for the post-season than snapper is about the Yankees.

Oh yeah. Nats fans definitely have it worse.

I'm actually not that pessimistic; I think they'll be a wild card. I just find myself not caring much one way or another.
   10. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 04, 2018 at 01:58 PM (#5720918)
Jorge Castillo @jorgecastillo
Gonzalez has given up home runs to Brandon Dixon and Phillip Ervin today. Reds lead 5-1 in the 3rd.

Gio is being so disrespectful right now.
   11. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 01:59 PM (#5720922)
So evidently, this trivia tidbit is going around saying that deGrom is the first pitcher with a losing record and a sub-2.00 ERA after 22 starts in 102 years. I am hunting and pecking in 1916 game logs without any luck. My search is not systematic, though. Anyone know who was the last to do it?


No. I used PI to narrow the search, but I could find nobody. Wilbur Cooper was 12-11 with a 1.87 ERA, but he was never below .500. Frank Miller had a losing record and a sub 2.00 ERA after his 22nd appearance, but not all of those were starts. It's possible the trivia was incorrectly phrased, like it wasn't 1916, or it could be Miller and it meant to say 22 appearances of something like that.
   12. SoSH U at work Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:02 PM (#5720923)
Frank Miller had a losing record and a sub 2.00 ERA after his 22nd appearance, but not all those were starts.


And surely there were other pitchers with a sub 2.00 ERA and a losing record after 22 appearances between then and now.
   13. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:05 PM (#5720926)
Apparently something called a "Walker Lockett" is pitching against the Cubs today.
   14. DavidFoss Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:06 PM (#5720927)
after 22 appearances

22 games started.
   15. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:06 PM (#5720928)
He almost singlehandedly saved a run in a 1 run win (not to mention homering and tripling and scoring 2 runs). I asked in the chatter if the defensive metrics score the play were he threw out Jankowski at home any different than if he merely threw to first to retire the batter. Or do they just consider, routine grounder, got an assist. And they almost certainly don't consider his earlier deke of Jankowski to keep him at second on the Cishek error, which kept him from scoring on the next play.
It will be years before metrics catch up with the full scope of Javying.
   16. Voodoo Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:06 PM (#5720929)
What about after Miller's 22nd start, not appearance?
   17. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:11 PM (#5720930)
What about after Miller's 22nd start, not appearance?


He had only 20 starts on the year. He had a 2.29 ERA for the season.
   18. DavidFoss Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:13 PM (#5720932)
Larry Cheney came extremely close in 1917, but he got shelled in his 22nd start.
   19. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:22 PM (#5720934)
Larry Cheney came extremely close in 1917, but he got shelled in his 22nd start.

Well, way back in 1917 the 22nd start was tantamount to "3rd time through the batting order".
   20. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:24 PM (#5720937)
If the trivia is true as stated, it's a very well hidden pitcher, like someone who pitched a sub 2 ERA and a losing record for 22 starts, then won 12 in a row with a lousy ERA to wind up 17-9 2.75 or something like that. No one with a final season ERA below 2.3 and a W/L record anywhere near .500 fits the bill. All of the possible suspects either were never below .500, or never below 2.00.
   21. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:34 PM (#5720942)
Kyle Hendricks and this Walker guy just combined to throw... 22 pitches in the first inning.
   22. phredbird Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:50 PM (#5720949)

HOW WILL MIKE SHILDT'S LEARNING CURVE HURT THE CARDINALS TONIGHT?


actually, i guess things are going as good as one can expect with the team we have right now. it's just my cardinals fandom entitlement talking ...
   23. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:56 PM (#5720954)
Boy, the Pads are bad.
   24. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:57 PM (#5720955)
It's just my Cardinals fandom entitlement talking ...

Get in line behind Yankees fans!!
   25. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 02:57 PM (#5720956)
Whoever this Walker Lockett fellow is, I like him.
   26. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:03 PM (#5720957)
Bryce Harper now up to .231 BA, (.871 OPS, 26 HR) after another single the opposite way, even though that's impossible for good LH hitters.
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:19 PM (#5720960)
HOW WILL MIKE SHILDT'S LEARNING CURVE HURT THE CARDINALS TONIGHT?


After yesterdays debacle, it's more or not whether we find out if he's a guy who panics because of his strategies not working, and instead running away to the safe zone, or if he realizes that 'things happen'. (I'm not talking about the pulling Bader decision/mess up, but the supposed hyper aggressive baserunning that he has supposedly installed that easily cost us two or more runs yesterday.)
   28. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:21 PM (#5720961)
How you liking that Hosmer contract, Padres fans? .382 SLG, and you get to enjoy him for 7 more years!

But no, it was totally collusion that teams weren't falling over themselves to give him more.
   29. Voodoo Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:22 PM (#5720962)
Bryce Harper now up to .231 BA, (.871 OPS, 26 HR) after another single the opposite way, even though that's impossible for good LH hitters.


Ah yes, the infamous post-HR Derby title surge.

Kyle Scharber is suffering from the dreaded post-HR Derby runner-up curse; 227/314/318 since the break.
   30. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:31 PM (#5720964)
Yes, Anthony, a pitch that misses you by an inch can be a strike.
   31. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:33 PM (#5720965)
But Zobrist, you're right that a pitch that is three inches low is not a strike.
   32. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:41 PM (#5720968)
Chelsea Janes @chelsea_janes
Harper goes to the opposite field again, this time for a double. Nats have two men in scoring position with two out for Soto.

Harper continues to do the impossible. He never should've won that Home Run Derby!!
   33. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:46 PM (#5720970)
During the commercials I'm flipping over to MLB Network's countdown of best playoff game finishes. I just saw Angels-Red Sox from 1986, which is kind of hard to watch now knowing what happened subsequently with Donnie Moore. The look on his face after Henderson's home run...ugh. You know what? It wasn't even that bad a pitch. It was at the bottom of the zone, off the plate outside - Hendu just went down and got it.
   34. TomH Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:49 PM (#5720972)
Yes, that. While you can be a goat, it's hard to have made a good play or pitch and have it turn out so bad.
   35. TomH Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:50 PM (#5720973)
I suppose Nolan Ryan's 1987 where he went 8-16 is the worst record ever for an ERA leader. Never mind a league KO leader also.
   36. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:54 PM (#5720974)
I assume deGrom will surpass that when he finishes this year at 2-32 or whatever.
   37. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:05 PM (#5720979)
Nats lose 7-1 in the make-up game of last night's doubleheader. They'll clear out the ballpark so they can make more money off the rubes who want to see them lose the nightcap as well. At least Harper is hitting now. Gee, thanks.
   38. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:06 PM (#5720980)
Why the hell wouldn’t you pinch hit for Hendricks in the fifth if he’s got such a short hook in the sixth?
   39. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:13 PM (#5720982)
Well, Chance's are this won't end well, but what the hell ...

[edit] Well, it hasn't begun well ...
   40. Voodoo Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:15 PM (#5720984)
Why the hell wouldn’t you pinch hit for Hendricks in the fifth if he’s got such a short hook in the sixth?


It makes no ####### sense and that's twice this week Maddon has pulled this very same trick.
   41. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:34 PM (#5720988)
Ohmygodthrowthefuckingball.
   42. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5720989)
Good eye on Bote, so there's that.
   43. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:36 PM (#5720990)
This guy's only got two pitches. How many f***ing signs do you need??
   44. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:38 PM (#5720991)
Absolutely awful at bats since they loaded the bases.
   45. BDC Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:38 PM (#5720992)
WILL THE RANGERS CONTINUE TO AVERAGE 14 RUNS A GAME VS. THE ORIOLES TONIGHT?!

Sorry, I thought that was mandatory style now. I’m fixing to go out later & see. Will report.
   46. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:39 PM (#5720993)
Well that sucked.
   47. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:39 PM (#5720994)
That was some 2004 caliber squandering with the bases loaded.
   48. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:41 PM (#5720995)
Sorry, I thought that was mandatory style now. I’m fixing to go out later & see. Will report.
CHANGE IT, AND YOU DIE.

HOW WILL I ENFORCE POSTING STANDARDS TODAY?!
   49. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:43 PM (#5720996)
It felt this way yesterday but it definitely feels like they’re gonna blow this game.
   50. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:46 PM (#5720997)
Bote is pretty smooth over there.
   51. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:46 PM (#5720998)
The Chatters are full with agonized Yankees and Cubs fans. Kinda hate how not losing your teams are.
   52. rconn23 Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:53 PM (#5721001)
Non competitive at bats by the Yankees.
   53. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 05:00 PM (#5721002)
Whew. Again.
   54. Voodoo Posted: August 04, 2018 at 05:00 PM (#5721003)
Cubs Win!
   55. Voodoo Posted: August 04, 2018 at 05:01 PM (#5721004)
Cubs bullpen perfect for 3.1 innings to eek out the win.
   56. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 05:03 PM (#5721005)
Heyward with the mandatory "grind" reference in the postgame interview.
   57. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 04, 2018 at 05:12 PM (#5721008)
Baseball loves its grinders.

In other news, I'm hungry all of a sudden.
   58. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 04, 2018 at 05:14 PM (#5721010)
These MLB-Jockey commercials where that dude is sitting around in his underwear playing with dogs is very strange.
   59. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 05:28 PM (#5721018)
Cubs bullpen perfect for 3.1 innings to eek out the win.


Nice typo there. Eek is right.
   60. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2018 at 05:50 PM (#5721027)
Just looking at a few names for the stat listed above

Joe Magrane in 1988 after his 20th start was 4-8 with a 2.03 era. (finished the season with 24 starts 5-9 record 2.18 era)
Dave Roberts in 1971, after 32 starts was 13-16 with a 1.96 era. (so obviously the stat about Degrom is concentrating specifically on "on his 22nd start".

Here is how it's being worded.

And how about this for a stat: deGrom is the first pitcher in 102 years with a losing record and sub-2.00 ERA in his first 22 starts of a season.


   61. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:04 PM (#5721028)
Dave Roberts in 1971, after 32 starts was 13-16 with a 1.96 era. (so obviously the stat about Degrom is concentrating specifically on "on his 22nd start".

Here is how it's being worded.

And how about this for a stat: deGrom is the first pitcher in 102 years with a losing record and sub-2.00 ERA in his first 22 starts of a season.


Which makes it completely uninteresting as trivia.
   62. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:10 PM (#5721030)
Sam McDowell in 1968 had a 15-14 record and a 1.81 ERA. After his 5th start, his ERA was never above 2.0, but he also never had a losing record. He would win one, lose one, win one, lose one... He was .500 3 times, but never below.
   63. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:13 PM (#5721031)
Got one. Bob Veale in 1968. After his 22nd start, he was 9-10 1.98.
   64. BDC Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:19 PM (#5721032)
97° at the Ballpark ... I got here early and secured my Vladimir Guerrero Bobblehead. Really, WTF do I care about a bobblehead. I mainly try to sneak them into my pal’s yard, and she sneaks them back into mine. But that’s something I guess.

Every time there’s a bobblehead, I see tons of fans streaming away from the stadium having collected their bobbleheads before the game. Maybe they will put ‘em in their cars & return for the game. Maybe they spent $10 on a ticket and $20 to park just as an investment in a bobblehead. It’s a weird world.
   65. TomH Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:19 PM (#5721033)
TRIVIA FOR TONIGHT
(for the lull between afternoon and evenign baseball)
Name the top 10 pitchers in terms of career KO minus BB
   66. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:21 PM (#5721034)
Nolan Ryan has to be #1
   67. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:22 PM (#5721036)
Schilling, Jenkins, W. Johnson
   68. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:22 PM (#5721037)
Ryan has more strikeouts-BB than all but 17 other pitchers have strikeouts.
   69. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:25 PM (#5721038)
Clemens, RJ and Carlton have to be also
   70. perros Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:27 PM (#5721039)

Every time there’s a bobblehead, I see tons of fans streaming away from the stadium having collected their bobbleheads before the game. Maybe they will put ‘em in their cars & return for the game. Maybe they spent $10 on a ticket and $20 to park just as an investment in a bobblehead. It’s a weird world.


They don't want it to melt.
   71. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:27 PM (#5721040)
Actually, Ryan is #3. RJ (3378, more than all but 8 other pitchers have Ks) and Clemens are ahead of Ryan.
   72. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:31 PM (#5721042)
Got one. Bob Veale in 1968. After his 22nd start, he was 9-10 1.98.


That was literally the next name I was going to check after Roberts, but since I found Roberts I stopped. I used sub .510 w%, 2.20 era and 22 starts as my criteria to search, sorted by most recent and started to go through the names individually...

That gave Degrom, Magrane(1988), Dave Roberts(1971), Bob Veale(1968), Carl Mays(1919)...and then there started to get a lot more names(53 names total made my list) Allan Sothoron is the most recent guy to finish the season with a sub 2.00 era but only a .500 record(never was below .500 after his 15th start.) Ciccote(1914) is the most recent to complete a season with a losing record and a sub .500 record and 22 or more starts(there is a total of 16 pitchers who finished the season with a sub .500 record, 2.00 era and at least 22 starts since 1876--including Jim Devlin with 622 ip and a 30-35 record and 1.56 era and only 122 strikeouts, ##### only had 66 complete games out of his 68 starts.)

Mind you Devlin had 108 earned runs but a total of 309 runs allowed...yes the game was a lot different back then.
   73. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:34 PM (#5721043)
Every time there’s a bobblehead, I see tons of fans streaming away from the stadium having collected their bobbleheads before the game. Maybe they will put ‘em in their cars & return for the game. Maybe they spent $10 on a ticket and $20 to park just as an investment in a bobblehead. It’s a weird world.


In some stadiums the bobble head is scarce, (just 10,000 or 20,000) so people are showing up early to get the bobblehead, and walking around the stadium for an hour seems kinda boring or pricey, so might as well use that time to put the bobbleheads in a safe location. Of course some of these people probably have a second set of tickets and are planning on coming back again.

   74. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:35 PM (#5721044)
Kimbrel making things exciting.
   75. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:36 PM (#5721046)
Gleyber Gleyber Gleyber !
   76. TomH Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:36 PM (#5721048)
1 R Johnson 4785-1497=3378
2 R Clemens 4672-1580=3092
3 N Ryan.... 5714-2795=2919
(big gap)
4 C Schilling 3116-711=2405
5
6
7
8 S Carlton.. 4136-1390=2250
9
10

Fergie is 11, Walter J is 13
   77. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:40 PM (#5721050)
BIRD BIRD bird BIRD BirD BIrD !
   78. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:41 PM (#5721051)
That was literally the next name I was going to check after Roberts, but since I found Roberts I stopped. I used sub .510 w%, 2.20 era and 22 starts as my criteria to search, sorted by most recent and started to go through the names individually...


Veale has the added advantage of being there after exactly 22 starts, just like DeGrom. The only difference is Veale had 2 relief appearances before his 22nd start, whereas DeGrom has none, so DeGrom can still be unique by further restricting the parameters. Veale was also sub .500/sub 2.0 after his 23rd start, which DeGrom is likely to be unless he allows 10 ER or something.
   79. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:41 PM (#5721052)
Name the top 10 pitchers in terms of career KO minus BB



Just guessing with 3000 k pitchers, that might include Maddux, Pedro, Bob Gibson.... not sure if Glavine makes the list. Maybe throw in Drysdale, Walter Johnson?
   80. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:41 PM (#5721053)
Let's hit that retarded Pesky Pole !!!

One Big Suck ! FU Yankees !
   81. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:42 PM (#5721054)
Bob Gibson, Sabathia
   82. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:42 PM (#5721055)
Maddux, Seaver, Pedro
   83. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:42 PM (#5721057)
Blyleven is in there somewhere, and Seaver I would assume. Maddux, Pedro.
   84. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:42 PM (#5721058)
apparently Drysdale had a shorter career than I remember.
   85. TomH Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:43 PM (#5721059)
Not Gibby or Drysdale
   86. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:44 PM (#5721060)
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.
   87. TomH Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:45 PM (#5721062)
1 R Johnson 4785-1497=3378
2 R Clemens 4672-1580=3092
3 N Ryan.... 5714-2795=2919
4 C Schilling 3116-711=2405
5 P Martinez. 3154-760=2394
6 B Blyleven 3701-1322=2379
7 G Maddux... 3371-999=2372
8 S Carlton.. 4136-1390=2250
9 T Seaver... 3640-1390=2250
10
   88. TomH Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:45 PM (#5721063)
oh, and BIRD is a TURD
   89. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:49 PM (#5721065)
I had to look it up. Was surprised at the answer, but he was the guy I conflate with Drysdale.
   90. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:49 PM (#5721066)
oh, and BIRD is a TURD

That be the truth, and nothing but the truce.
   91. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:49 PM (#5721067)
Don Sutton for the last spot?
   92. SoSH U at work Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:50 PM (#5721068)
Sutton? Javy Vazquez?
   93. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:52 PM (#5721070)
Don Sutton for the last spot?


For some reason my brain seems to think Sutton and Drysdale are the same pitcher and takes the best of both of them, it doesn't help that Sutton came on the scene right when Drysdale was retiring(not that I remember any of that, I wasn't born yet) but still you have two Don's pitching for the Dodgers...
   94. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:53 PM (#5721072)
Dear Dodgers,

You have too many pitchers named Don. Please eliminate one.

P.S. I am not a crackpot.
   95. SoSH U at work Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:59 PM (#5721075)
You have too many pitchers named Don. Please eliminate one.


Nuke Newk.
   96. Perry Posted: August 04, 2018 at 06:59 PM (#5721076)
Dexter Fowler to the DL with a broken foot. (Weirdly, Tommy Pham also to the DL with the same injury, although of course he's no longer a Cardinal.) Anyway, the way is now clear for O'Neill and Bader to dazzle.
   97. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2018 at 07:01 PM (#5721077)
What is the longest and most war you can produce by linking a player in his last year by his first name to any teammate and their future war and continuing that trend. With Drysdale you get 61.4 war, and then with Sutton you add on another 58.8 war...there was nobody named Don on the Dodgers his last year so the streak dies there. Drysdale had a few in his time with the Dodgers(his rookie year had Newcombe, Bessent, Zimmer and Demeter....none of which were significant value of war or on their last years...)
   98. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2018 at 07:08 PM (#5721079)
Everyone knows I love the pitcher batting 8th, but with Carpenter's insistence on leading off, it makes even more sense to bat Bader or Wong 9th. (I would bat Bader since Wong and Carp both bat left...actually I would bat Fowler since he's sucking this year and has the tools of a good leadoff hitter, but he's on the dl)
   99. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2018 at 07:09 PM (#5721080)
For the record, Matt Carpenter was named NL player of the month for July. MLB has Carpenter also as a possible top ten MVP candidate this season. Considering his start that is impressive.
   100. Perry Posted: August 04, 2018 at 07:09 PM (#5721081)
For some reason my brain seems to think Sutton and Drysdale are the same pitcher and takes the best of both of them, it doesn't help that Sutton came on the scene right when Drysdale was retiring(not that I remember any of that, I wasn't born yet) but still you have two Don's pitching for the Dodgers...


Yeah, it does help if you actually saw them. Drysdale was a much bigger man (6-5 vs. 6-1) and had a completely different delivery, very low 3/4, almost sidearm, while Sutton had a classic straight overhand delivery.
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