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Saturday, September 21, 2019

OMNICHATTER for the weekend of September 21-22, 2019

Scoreboards for the Major Leagues and all minor leagues,
courtesy of Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee).

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 21, 2019 at 03:00 PM | 234 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Rob_Wood Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:22 PM (#5881705)
first f'ing pitch (the wind giveth and the wind taketh away)
   102. Rob_Wood Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:23 PM (#5881706)
daddy, i wanna go home
   103. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:23 PM (#5881707)
2 pitches, 1 Molina HR, 1 DeJong HR, and it is 9-8 STL in the 9th.

I'm sure rooting against pitchers with ridiculous pre-pitch setups makes me a bad person.
   104. cardsfanboy Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:25 PM (#5881709)
3-1 is definitely not the final score of this game...
   105. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:26 PM (#5881710)
I can't say that I didn't prophesize this very thing:
I don't really care if Kimbrel can't come back. He's been frequently terrible, and there's no longer any time to bring him back and put up with a week of more terrible while he settles back in. Might as well shut him down and get him on a normal offseason program in preparation for next year. Too late for this year.

That was 10 days ago.
   106. Rob_Wood Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:26 PM (#5881712)
is there still room on the "joe maddon must go" bandwagon?
   107. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:27 PM (#5881713)
#### Kimbrel’s stupid ginger ass
   108. cardsfanboy Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:28 PM (#5881715)
I'm the guy who thinks Kimbrel was a good signing at the time, wished my team did it.
   109. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:30 PM (#5881716)
I wish your team did it too.
   110. cardsfanboy Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:31 PM (#5881717)
for the record... Molina has been "ON" since his return from injury... and it's a point I made a few years ago... he's much better when he has rest, but he refuses to rest and the team doesn't give it to him, but him having two days off every 10 or so days makes him a better player.
   111. rconn23 Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:34 PM (#5881718)
Has there been a worse contract signing than Kimbrel this season? Surely I'm forgetting a few people.
   112. cardsfanboy Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:34 PM (#5881720)
Are we going to have 7th lead change?
   113. cardsfanboy Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:39 PM (#5881721)
rare failure from Molina... shoulda had a strikeout... but failed to hold onto the ball.
   114. cardsfanboy Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:46 PM (#5881724)
Martinez with the strikeout for the win... Cubs 6 games back with 7 games remaining... good chance that the Cardinals make the post season.
   115. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:47 PM (#5881725)
Sending Javy up to bat there felt like more of a marketing strategy than a baseball decision. Even at his best, Javy can be undisciplined and overeager at the plate, and we're going to send him up there with the season possibly on the line after not facing real pitching for 3 weeks?

Just seems dumb. I love Javy but it's just not a good play. Bote would have given them a better shot.
   116. cardsfanboy Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:53 PM (#5881726)
didn't realize that Gant was up for the win...11-1 record for Gant.
   117. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:53 PM (#5881727)
COLON-OSCOPY!

obscure 30-year-old Reds callup - who was organizational fodder for the Mets last year - singles in the bottom of the 8th for a 3-2 lead against #zombieMets
   118. Red Voodooin Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:55 PM (#5881728)
It's not just that the Cubs have blown a playoff position, they've lost consecutive one run games in unique, maddening succession. I'm pretty broken right now. The only positive thought I can muster is "thank God that there's no such thing as a 'CURSE' anymore." It's just baseball.
   119. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:02 PM (#5881730)
NL WILD CARD

WAS 84-68
MIL 84-70

CHI 82-73 with today's loss
NYM 80-74 with today's loss
PHI 78-74

..............

AL WILD CARD
OAK 93-61

CLE 91-63
TBR 91-63
   120. JJ1986 Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:08 PM (#5881733)
Rip Mets season.
   121. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:09 PM (#5881734)
Jesse Dougherty @dougherty_jesse
Another day, another big hit for Stephen Strasburg. He singles in Yan Gomes with two outs in the second. Building the case for his second Silver Slugger and helping his own cause.

#NoDH
   122. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:23 PM (#5881738)
Video evidence of a turncoat (errr, turnshirt) Cardinals fan.
   123. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:26 PM (#5881739)
SNY, the Mets' TV network, is now airing a half-hour sports betting infomercial by DraftKings.

this is kinda weird, because there is no legal sports betting in NYS except in South Bumfock in the Catskills - and then even further northern nether regions. DraftKings' only retail presence in the state is at a casino in the aptly-named town or Waterloo, between Rochester and Syracuse and a mere 265 miles from Manhattan.

there is no legal mobile sports betting in New York at all.

CT, also in the TV market, doesn't have it, either.

New Jersey taxpayers welcome DraftKings' efforts, and remind those residents that one need only go steps across the state line to begin gambling away your future retirement savings - and we get a slice of the revenue in taxes!
   124. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:38 PM (#5881744)
Brewers only lead 2-1 after 1 inning so....

ah, I got nuthin
   125. phredbird Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:39 PM (#5881745)

had the game on delay, so only now can i jump in to say ...


CARDS WIN CARDS WIN

GOOD AFTERNOON AND GOOD LUCK
   126. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:40 PM (#5881746)
SNY, the Mets' TV network, is now airing a half-hour sports betting infomercial by DraftKings.

MLB is contributing to the hellscape dystopian future envisioned in Back to the Future II. The great American pastime.
   127. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:44 PM (#5881748)
It would be nice if the Phils could go out with a whimper, as opposed to whatever this less than a whimper is.
   128. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 08:04 PM (#5881752)
double agent Jason Vargas once again helping the Mets by pitching for the Phillies.

Mets asked for a 25-year-old backup non-prospect catcher who played baseball with owner Fred Wilpon's grandson at Penn.

if it sounds too good to be true - and now, 31 ER in 46 IP later....
   129. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 21, 2019 at 08:06 PM (#5881753)
In the Race For 300, Giancarlo Stanton’s return-to-health HR was their only one in today’s Yankee victory, giving them 295 for the season. The Twins have had 1 tonight, so far, giving them a paltry 294.
   130. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 21, 2019 at 08:14 PM (#5881755)
Strasburg had earlier in the Marlins game walked their pitcher. In the 5th he seemed to have settled down and allowed Juan Soto and Victor Robles to do his dirty work for him catching a line drive and a fly ball out, respectively. Their defense has markedly improved this season. Now at 78 pitches in the 6th in Miami. 2-0 Nats.
   131. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 08:19 PM (#5881756)
speaking of Vargas, it's mentioned that at the moment, Vargas (98-98) has the third-most starts of any MLB pitcher with exactly a .500 record. he trails Charlie Hough (216-216) and Howard Ehmke (166-166).
   132. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 21, 2019 at 08:49 PM (#5881761)
Bryce Harper gets Vargas off the hook with a 3 run HR. I guess the Phils have more than a whimper going tonight.
   133. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 09:11 PM (#5881766)
wow, CLE went 2-11 vs OAK and TBR this year.

as announcers in every sport would say somberly, "That's not what you want."

in case you were wondering.
   134. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 21, 2019 at 09:33 PM (#5881770)
#FireDeivi goes to Fernando Rodney, who has been looking his years recently, who loads the bases then gives up a 3 RBI double to tie it up. I can't say that he has a lot of decent choices, but Rodney has been especially vulnerable on consecutive days' work. And his penchant for dry-humping relievers means that even if they don't get into a game, they seem almost as tired as if they had. That hidden stat that nobody tracks.
   135. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 09:53 PM (#5881774)
updating 119, rampaging MIL leads 10-1 and rampaging OAK leads 7-0 after 1 inning
   136. Walt Davis Posted: September 21, 2019 at 09:54 PM (#5881776)
I know next to nobody cares and it certainly doesn't matter to their season, but how much longer can Hurdle hang onto his job? Has any team ever come down the stretch worse than this Pirate team is? They are about to lose their 8th straight by a combined 81-23 (if today's score stays the same). Is anybody on that team still trying? They already gave up over 6 R/g in Aug, they're topping that at 7 for Sept.
   137. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 10:32 PM (#5881783)
NL WILD CARD

WAS 85-68
MIL 85-70

CHI 82-73
NYM 80-74
PHI 79-74

..............

AL WILD CARD
OAK 94-61 assuming they hold a 9-0 lead
TBR 92-63

CLE 91-64
   138. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 10:35 PM (#5881784)
as for Hurdle, I'd fire him.

but they only have one SP above an 85 ERA+ (Musgrove 96), and their only lights-out reliever this season - well, he's currently otherwise occupied. so they have no pitching left. season ERA+ is 83, which seems hard to do.
   139. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 21, 2019 at 11:20 PM (#5881787)
I wouldn’t attach much significance as to whether the Pirates let Hurdle finish the season before firing him. Lousy record, open dissension, and widely regarded as a HBP thug, he would seem nearly certain to be gone, IMHO.
   140. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: September 22, 2019 at 01:14 AM (#5881801)
Marcus Semien is having himself a hell of a second half, and a hell of a year - he's got the best season for a shortstop (by bWAR) in franchise history, and he's pulling away at the end:

7.4 Marcus Semien, 2019 (missing just 24 innings in the field all season long, OPSing over 1.000 since July 3)
6.9 Eddie Joost, 1949
6.6 Bert Campaneris, 1968
6.0 Eddie Joost, 1951
5.8 Bert Campaneris, 1970
   141. Rob_Wood Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:11 AM (#5881804)
miguel tejada??
   142. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:26 AM (#5881805)
miguel tejada??

Surprised me too: Tejada's 2002 MVP year was his best with the A's, but "only" 5.6 bWAR. He had a couple of better years with the Orioles after that.
   143. Howie Menckel Posted: September 22, 2019 at 12:53 PM (#5881861)
speculation by Yankees broadcaster John Flaherty and WFAN radio beat guy during some banter this morning that Luke Voit would be left off the postseason roster.

his 21 HR might break a record for most by a healthy player not on a preseason roster.

theory is that
- Tyler Wade has been a spark of late and can fill many roles;
- with EE and Sanchez back, Voit would be just a PH - and who would he pinch-hit for?
- loss of German for postseason means they need a 13th pitcher
   144. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 22, 2019 at 01:17 PM (#5881864)
Nationals apparently playing for home field advantage in some damned series, but I can't be bothered to figure that stuff out. Just give me some well-played baseball, even if it is against the Marlins.

That Rendon RBI single will do nicely. 1-0 Nats just underway in balmy, breezy Miami where the roof is closed.
   145. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 22, 2019 at 01:45 PM (#5881866)
Luis Severino with an important start for the Yankees today. Hitting 94-97 on the fastball, throwing only strikes on first 11 pitches, with a good slider. Playoff pitching looks a little thin without him, he could be the difference.
   146. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 22, 2019 at 01:52 PM (#5881867)
ALL RISE! Aaron Judge solo HR in 1st.

EDIT: The Grittiest Yankee hits a 3-run HR (#27) to give the Yanks a 4-0 lead over Toronto in 1st.
   147. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:21 PM (#5881869)
LeMahieu 2-run HR, makes it 6-0, NYY. That’s # 298 for the team, as the Quest For 300 continues.
   148. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:30 PM (#5881871)
The scourge that is replay extends the inning for the Nationals which allows RHP Austin Voth to record his first MLB hit and RBI all in one. 3-1 Nats, bottom 4th.
   149. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:31 PM (#5881873)
That’s # 298 for the team, as the Quest For 300 continues.

Put an asterisk in front of the entire 2019 season.
   150. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:37 PM (#5881875)
Cubs taking a 1-0 lead as two Cardinals misplays help out.
   151. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:43 PM (#5881878)
Ozuna's homerun was the lowest pitch by a Cardinal to become a homerun in the statcast era... I said it at the time, that wasn't a bad pitch... it was bad luck, this is data to agree with it.

   152. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:46 PM (#5881879)
Okay... Tim McCarver is allowed to talk for at least three innings without pissing me off... he said a compliment to my favorite player of all time... "Ted Simmons in 1973 hit more balls off the barrel of the bat than I have ever seen... he must have hit 300 line drives...not all were hits, but a large percentage of them were."....

I love Ted Simmons... he's one of those great players who is self aware and intelligent... really wished his health allowed him to be a Billy Beane type of guy which is the path he was on for at a time.
   153. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:51 PM (#5881881)
Sounding like this game might not actually finish... they were worried about even starting the game, according to the Cardinals announcers, but rain is coming down and it doesn't seem like there is a break for the storm... (not sure, just interpreting what the Cardinal announcers are talking about)
   154. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:54 PM (#5881882)
Yadier has too big of an arm for you to make a bunt like that.
   155. Rob_Wood Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:56 PM (#5881883)
I'll take Wade Boggs in the year he had something like 250 hits.
   156. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 02:58 PM (#5881884)
Dejong with a freaking blast.... that thing went a long way.
   157. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:00 PM (#5881885)
Jesse Dougherty @dougherty_jesse
Howie Kendrick has two singles today and his season average is up to .347 (!).

Old guys rule.
   158. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:09 PM (#5881886)
Kris Bryant grounding into a double play and hurting himself in the process sums up this week.

   159. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:11 PM (#5881887)
Can the Cubs just forfeit the last week of the season?
   160. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:15 PM (#5881888)
They are really pushing the uniqueness of last night's game... I've seen things about first pitch back to back homeruns... back to back homeruns to tie and take the lead... etc..

This was one of the more unique games in baseball history, especially when you consider the stakes and rivalry... but don't push for more than what it was... a fantastic game or a crappy game depending on the personal viewpoint.
   161. Red Voodooin Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:16 PM (#5881889)
Can the Cubs just forfeit the last week of the season?


That sure seems to be what the Pirates and Marlins are doing.
   162. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:23 PM (#5881890)
33rd double play the cubs have hit into this weekend.
   163. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:39 PM (#5881891)
This was one of the more unique games in baseball history

How many games were the only ones of its kind?

/pedantic
   164. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:40 PM (#5881892)
That sure seems to be what the Pirates and Marlins are doing.

I refer the right honorable gentleman to the Nationals relief corps, presently giving away the lead.
   165. Rob_Wood Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:44 PM (#5881893)
I am only following game via internet ...

In the Cubs 1st inning could/should Castellanos have scored from second on Schwarber's single? Third base coaches holding runners who could "easily" score has become my newest pet peeve. All these games are running together in my mind but I think it was yesterday that Cardinals third base coach held up a runner who was at third base when Heyward fielded ball in medium deep center field. Runner would have scored approx 99% of time if sent. Of course, next batter grounds into inning-ending double-play. Happens several times a week throughout baseball nowadays. (Hoping I'm not dottering into McCarver territory with this rant.)
   166. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:48 PM (#5881894)
How many games were the only ones of its kind?


Yes...when I posted that... I knew that for the most part every game is unique... but memorable unique is a bit different... we had a guy point out that in the entire year of 2013 that no game had more than 5 lead changes... yesterdays game had seven... it featured division rivals playing in late September where both were in the playoffs... it's one of the probably biggest games of the year... I think that if they did a top 10 or 20 biggest games of the year, and used wpa changes or something, and combined it with playoff importance... that last nights game was huge...and historically speaking probably also huge.
   167. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:50 PM (#5881895)
In the Cubs 1st inning could/should Castellanos have scored from second on Schwarber's single?


sorry I can't say... I missed the Cubs first half inning... didn't get the game on until the Cardinals at bat in the second (Hulu for some reason kept defaulting to the Cubs broadcast... and even though I hate at times the Cardinals broadcasters... I couldn't listen to the Cubs broadcasters... the one guy (Len?) just sounded like he was sleeping while talking)
   168. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:55 PM (#5881897)
George Springer has 3 homeruns... it's in the fourth inning of his game.
   169. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 03:57 PM (#5881898)
Apparently Castellanos was tired of doubles.. hit a big fly to make it 2-1 Cubs.
   170. Lassus Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:05 PM (#5881899)
####### worthless, Pittsburgh.
   171. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:07 PM (#5881900)
It's looking more than likely that this game might get rained out and the Cubs handed a victory, when it's clear that the Cardinals can come back... we already lost one game this year due to that stupidity(against the Brewers) hopefully we'll finish this game and have a legit loss/win.
   172. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:08 PM (#5881901)
####### worthless, Pittsburgh.


Nobody can beat the Brewers right now... It's not just Pittsburgh.
   173. Davo Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:10 PM (#5881902)
With that Billy McKinney blast, 2019 Blue Jays now have 13 players with 10+ homers this year, tying the all-time record, set by the 2019 Yankees.
   174. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:11 PM (#5881903)
Ozuna with his 30th.... calling it now..
   175. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:12 PM (#5881904)
Obviously....like my girlfriends decision... I'm going to be wrong on that.... lol
   176. Tin Angel Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:15 PM (#5881905)
If I'm Maddon I let Kimbrel finish the last two innings, let him work through whatever is going on.
   177. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:20 PM (#5881909)
If I'm Maddon I let Kimbrel finish the last two innings, let him work through whatever is going on.


I think even Costanza would think such a move by Maddon would be too blatant an attempt to get fired.
   178. salvomania Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:24 PM (#5881910)
Brewers on track for their 15th win in their last 17 games... that is finishing strong!

Granted, 11 of those games were against the Pirates, Marlins, and Padres, but still, very impressive.
   179. salvomania Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:25 PM (#5881911)
when it's clear that the Cardinals can come back

Then they better come back now instead of waiting until the 9th inning
   180. salvomania Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:27 PM (#5881912)
This Darvish guy looks pretty good.
   181. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:28 PM (#5881913)
Brewers on track for their 15th win in their last 17 games... that is finishing strong!


There's been plenty to go wrong in the last few weeks for the Cubs, but in my mind, them failing to stomp out the Brewers over the final two sets of the season series is a huge part of why things are where they are.
   182. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:29 PM (#5881914)
Dejong with a two-run shot here would fit well with this weekend's theme.
   183. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:33 PM (#5881915)
Let Darvish finish it.
   184. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:46 PM (#5881916)
wow.... that was horrible...
   185. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:47 PM (#5881917)
It wouldn't have been right for this not to be a one-run game going into the ninth.
   186. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:51 PM (#5881918)
leadoff triple by Jose Martinez.... have to love this game....
   187. phredbird Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:52 PM (#5881919)

i just finished typing 'martinez would not be my choice here' ... shows what i know.
   188. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:53 PM (#5881920)
Lol Jesus Christ
   189. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:53 PM (#5881921)
Perfecto
   190. Brian C Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:53 PM (#5881922)
So the Cubs' undoing today after a wonderful, clutch game by Darvish is going to be their defensive replacement CF misplaying a fly ball.
   191. phredbird Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:54 PM (#5881923)

wow ... what a nutty series this has been.
   192. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:54 PM (#5881924)
Brewers on track for their 15th win in their last 17 games...

DO NOT DESTROY YOUR TICKETS!

Los Piratas tacked on 3 runs in the top 8th to make it 4-3 Brewers.

EDIT: Hader is coming back to the mound for the 9th.
   193. phredbird Posted: September 22, 2019 at 04:59 PM (#5881925)

shaddap joe that was a ball ...
   194. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: September 22, 2019 at 05:00 PM (#5881926)
I had no idea that Kylo Ren played for the Pirates. Huh.
   195. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 05:00 PM (#5881927)
Did we really think it would go any other way?

Worst week I can think of given the context.
   196. phredbird Posted: September 22, 2019 at 05:00 PM (#5881928)

O.M.G.

this is crazy. goldschmidt should never have hit that ball ...
   197. cardsfanboy Posted: September 22, 2019 at 05:01 PM (#5881929)
this is just an unreal series.
   198. salvomania Posted: September 22, 2019 at 05:02 PM (#5881930)
I like that one can hear the rain falling in the background of the Cubs-Cards game.
   199. phredbird Posted: September 22, 2019 at 05:06 PM (#5881931)

just to add insult to injury, cards getting some close calls this inning.
   200. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 22, 2019 at 05:08 PM (#5881932)
They’ve been getting close calls all ####### weekend
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