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   1. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 05, 2017 at 04:57 PM (#5526434)
HOW MANY RELIEVERS WILL THE ANGELS USE TODAY?!
   2. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 05, 2017 at 05:02 PM (#5526446)
Here's something to Omnichatter about:

Boston Red Sox Used Apple Watches to Steal Signs Against Yankees

WASHINGTON — For decades, spying on another team has been as much a part of the gamesmanship of baseball as brushback pitches and hard slides. The Red Sox have apparently added a modern — and illicit — twist: They used an Apple Watch to gain an advantage against the Yankees and other teams.

Investigators for Major League Baseball have determined that the Boston Red Sox, who are in first place in the American League East and likely headed to the playoffs, executed a scheme to illicitly steal hand signals from opponents’ catchers in games against the second-place Yankees and other teams, according to several people briefed on the matter.

The baseball inquiry began about two weeks ago, after the Yankees’ general manager, Brian Cashman, filed a detailed complaint with the commissioner’s office that included video the Yankees shot of the Red Sox dugout during a three-game series in Boston last month.

The Yankees, who had long been suspicious of the Red Sox stealing catchers’ signs in Fenway Park, contended the video showed a member of the Red Sox training staff looking at his Apple Watch in the dugout and then relaying a message to players, who may have then been able to use the information to know the type of pitch that was going to be thrown, according to the people familiar with the case.

Baseball investigators corroborated the Yankees’ claims based on video the commissioner’s office uses for instant replay and broadcasts, the people said. The commissioner’s office then confronted the Red Sox, who admitted that their trainers had received signals from video replay personnel and then relayed that information to some players — an operation that had been in place for at least several weeks.

The Red Sox responded in kind on Tuesday, filing a complaint against the Yankees, claiming that the team uses a camera from its television network, YES, exclusively to steal signs during games.

It is unclear what penalties, if any, Commissioner Rob Manfred will issue against the Red Sox and whether he will order a more expansive investigation to determine the extent of the Red Sox’ sign-stealing system. It is also unclear how he will proceed with the countercomplaint....

The video provided to the commissioner’s office by the Yankees was captured during the first two games of the series and included at least three clips. In the clips, the team’s assistant athletic trainer, Jon Jochim, is seen looking at his Apple Watch and then passing information to outfielder Brock Holt and second baseman Dustin Pedroia, who was injured at the time but in uniform. In one instance, Pedroia is then seen passing the information to Young....

Some in baseball would like for Mr. Manfred to take away some of Boston’s victories, a move that would be highly unusual. Others believe that a significant fine and the docking of draft picks would be sufficient.
   3. stanmvp48 Posted: September 05, 2017 at 05:02 PM (#5526447)
WILL PABLO SANDOVAL BREAK AN 0-33 STREAK TONIGHT
   4. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 05, 2017 at 07:15 PM (#5526567)
Not many people at Nationals @ Marlins tonight. Looks like an early evacuation with the hurricane coming.
   5. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 05, 2017 at 08:26 PM (#5526616)
Everybody knows the Yankees' signs... touch cap, benchclearing. touch penis, take a pitch for the team. And of course: touch feet with both hands at the same time, hit and run.
   6. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 05, 2017 at 08:28 PM (#5526621)
WILL PABLO SANDOVAL BREAK AN 0-33 STREAK TONIGHT


That bad ? Really ? I am not even following the Giants anymore.
But Nunez still gets on my nerves, with his helmet-losing and Yankee killing. Although I am very happy with the 3 of 4 @Bronx!
   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 05, 2017 at 08:28 PM (#5526622)
Not many people at Nationals @ Marlins tonight. Looks like an early evacuation with the hurricane coming.

Or a Marlins game.
   8. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 05, 2017 at 08:30 PM (#5526623)
Twins @Rays No-Hitter Alarm !
   9. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 05, 2017 at 08:32 PM (#5526626)
Not many people at Nationals @ Marlins tonight. Looks like an early evacuation with the hurricane coming.


Or a Marlins game.


haha.
   10. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 05, 2017 at 08:44 PM (#5526631)
G Stanton just missed making a nice sliding catch down the right field line. As he was running, he was creating huge splashes with every step on the grass. The field is just soaked.

Also, the Marlins have announced that team staff will be allowed to bring their families with them when they leave on their road trip.
   11. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: September 05, 2017 at 08:46 PM (#5526632)
Jesus, so sorry Odorizzi !

Hit ball into the shift hits the bag. #### YOU , BASEBALL GODS !
   12. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 05, 2017 at 08:59 PM (#5526641)
The Nats catcher seems to think something's wrong with Stephen Strasburg. Strasburg's body language isn't great, either. He's waving everyone away but it does look like Strasburg's trying to stretch either his back or his left hamstring.
   13. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: September 05, 2017 at 09:36 PM (#5526670)
I see the Cubs are going with the failsafe strategy of relying on the Reds' bullpen to maintain their division lead...
   14. salvomania Posted: September 05, 2017 at 09:56 PM (#5526693)
Scooter Gennett now on pace to drive in over 100 runs. A muppet.
   15. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:06 PM (#5526700)
Red Sox sign stealing strategy working in the 9th!
   16. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:10 PM (#5526702)
The Reds' nice escape in the top of the 7th and 5-spot in the bottom half will merely make the inevitable bullpen implosion all the more crushing. I see it's well underway.
   17. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:14 PM (#5526706)
Cardinals lineup features almost an entire roster of players who spent time in AAA this year.

Bader, Grichuk, DeJong, Martinez, Piscotty, Valera(major league debut), Mejia.... Only Molina and Wacha have been with the team all year long.
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:26 PM (#5526714)
Jose Martinez is a professional hitter. He's also a big guy(6'6"), and clearly not a good defensive outfielder, the fact he is just now being converted to first base seems a bit weird trajectory for his career(of course a few things are weird about his career, you lead the AAA with a .384 average at 26 years old and can't get a call up (his team won the world series that year, so it's not like they needed him))

I'm optimistic that he is a poor man's David Ortiz or Edgar Martinez going forward, he has the minor league pedigree to be a high average, obp hitter, just didn't have the power to go with his size, but fortunately he also doesn't have the strikeout rate that you often see for big guys like him.
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:30 PM (#5526716)
Damn it Wacha, what is wrong with not allowing a run in the inning immediately after your team scores..

okay, that was little league. (if you want to see the definition of little league defense, you need to watch the play by Wil Myers to single in two runs in the first inning.)

   20. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:35 PM (#5526718)
Garrett Richards with two clean innings in his first start back. Velocity looks good, slider looks wicked. God, I hope this works out.
   21. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:40 PM (#5526721)
Wow, McLaughlin really does not like Piscotty at all. He's searching for reasons to hate on him.
   22. Jay Seaver Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:40 PM (#5526722)
Hey, I suppose you've got to try in the 11th, but Jose Bautista testing Jackie Bradley Junior's arm was foolish.
   23. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:40 PM (#5526723)
Squeeze failed, but Bader hit his third homerun of the season(past week) to make it 5-2 Cardinals in the second inning.
   24. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:46 PM (#5526724)
Mike Trout's just tied the franchise record for most consecutive games (13) with a walk. With men on 2nd and 3rd, they didn't even pretend to try and pitch to him.
   25. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:47 PM (#5526725)
runner on, Moreland swings at 1st pitch, grounder back to the pitcher. Geez Mitch, have a look at a pitch or 2 before surrendering meekly.
   26. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:51 PM (#5526727)
No matter how this season ends, the Cardinals are going to have some tough choices to make when it comes to roster construction in the off season. As it stands they have Pham, Piscotty, Bader, Fowler and Grichuk all making cases to be starters (with only Pham having an "all star" quality season though) I mean it's great to have 5 potential starting outfielders, of which three of them are plus centerfielders--not Fowler or Piscotty----but in reality it's not something that the players are going to enjoy when it comes to playing time. It's fine for a few weeks of course, but over 162 game season, I don't think it's beneficial for morale/attitude on the team.

Add in that they have on the infield Gyorko, Wong, Carpenter, DeJong, and Martinez(a first baseman, not a real outfielder) fighting for playing time(not to mention ROY vote receiver from last year Aledmys Diaz) and you have too few positions for the players you have, and unfortunately you don't have any superstars at any of those positions (with apologies to Pham's season this year, it's probably a career year already, not an expected level of norm) and it makes it tough to decide on the future if you are the gm I imagine.
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:53 PM (#5526729)
Mike Trout's just tied the franchise record for most consecutive games (13) with a walk. With men on 2nd and 3rd, they didn't even pretend to try and pitch to him.


How did that work out for them? as I see multiple runs going up on the scoreboard this inning. (looking at the play by play it doesn't seem to have mattered, so far, sac fly that would have been set up already--wild pitch doesn't hurt though)
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 10:56 PM (#5526730)
Jose Martinez, professional hitter, doubles off the base of the wall, Cardinals held DeJong up at third and he probably scores easily (to my eyes)
   29. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 11:00 PM (#5526732)
Jose Martinez made a dumb running decision, called out, but was safe and it will be probably overturned on review, but it was still a stupid decision(he's on second, ball hit in front of him to the shortstop and he was running on contact, throw to third great slide to avoid the tag, called out, but clearly safe on replay....)

The part that I'm making fun of, is that McLaughlin(the Cardinals announcer) had no problem with Martinez going for it, but more or less blasted Piscotty for slowing down a stutter step when rounding second base. (he also defended Dejong who was watching the ball instead of the third base coach, basically doing exactly what Piscotty did, but even worse as he was watching the play) Apparently Piscotty stole McLaughlin's wheaties or something.
   30. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 11:03 PM (#5526733)
Cardinals with their third consecutive inning of crooked numbers (so far 5 innings played by both sides, and five half innings with 2 or more runs scored)
   31. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 05, 2017 at 11:17 PM (#5526736)
DBacks take an early lead on the Dodgers. They own LA right now.
   32. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 11:30 PM (#5526741)
Madbum has 10 homeruns his last 172 at bats.... Judge has 8 in his last 172 at bats.
   33. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2017 at 11:33 PM (#5526743)
Another little league play.... man on third two outs... full count, ball in the dirt, batter half swings, ump calls ball, batter kinda walks to first, meanwhile the Padres hunt the ball down and waiting for the result of the appeal on whether he went or not, and everyone kinda assume he did, but he didn't, and the runner on third for the Cardinals had wandered off the bag assuming third out, and realized "oops" and thrown out in a rundown.
   34. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 05, 2017 at 11:35 PM (#5526744)
After three good innings, Richards looks done.

IS done. Scioscia's coming out to get him. 52 pitches, 4 hits, 3 Ks, and a walk in 3.1 innings. At least he didn't hurt himself.
   35. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 05, 2017 at 11:38 PM (#5526746)
Verlander's first homer allowed as an Astro goes to Kyle Seager. It's a bomb.
   36. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 05, 2017 at 11:38 PM (#5526747)
Also, watching three games simultaneously makes my head hurt.
   37. villageidiom Posted: September 05, 2017 at 11:55 PM (#5526755)
15th friggin' inning. Good thing rosters are expanded. Took the bullpen a few weeks to recover the last time they went through something like this.
   38. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:01 AM (#5526757)
Not pinch hitting for Ryu in the bottom of the 5th with a runner on third 2 outs and a 1-1 tie is looking really bad right now.
   39. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:04 AM (#5526760)
Ok, Ryu did make it through the 6th unscathed. Still felt like a rare scoring opportunity that they had to try to take advantage of.
   40. cardsfanboy Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:17 AM (#5526763)
Professional hitter, Jose Martinez with his second homerun of the game. 8-4 Cardinals.
   41. Jay Seaver Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:24 AM (#5526765)
You know, a ballgame in the 17th inning should have gotten weird some time ago, but with September callups, the Red Sox can use Lin Tzu-wei as their fourth second baseman of the night and that's pretty much okay.
   42. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:31 AM (#5526767)
CJ Cron with a homer to give the Angels the lead again, 6-5. Looks like another barnburner.
   43. Textbook Editor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:31 AM (#5526768)
And, finally, Farrell winds up with the guy who doesn't have it tonight.

Managing platoon advantages with 2 out in the top of the 17th seems... well, kind of silly, frankly.
   44. villageidiom Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:32 AM (#5526769)
A Carson Smith sighting in the bullpen! We just needed a game that went as long as an entire DL stint.
   45. Textbook Editor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:35 AM (#5526770)
Abad's gonna bust out the eephus
   46. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:37 AM (#5526771)
Scribner walks the first two guys in the 6th. Scioscia's calling the bullpen again. Ugh.
   47. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:39 AM (#5526772)
RBI single, tie game. The worst part about all these bullpen moves is that they feel completely necessary.
   48. Jay Seaver Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:41 AM (#5526773)
... And we're looking at the full single-game doubleheader in Boston.
   49. villageidiom Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:44 AM (#5526775)
Carson Smith having an impact after just one pitch.
   50. Textbook Editor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:44 AM (#5526776)
A Carson Smith sighting!

Not sure if this is a white flag or not...

EDIT: can't tell my white flag from my red flag...
   51. Chip Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:45 AM (#5526777)
There were plenty of pitches to complain about tonight. Not that one.
   52. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:50 AM (#5526780)
The Jays are now out of position players, and are probably going to lose the DH.

   53. villageidiom Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:51 AM (#5526781)
I am digging the Carson Smith Experience.
   54. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:51 AM (#5526782)
There were plenty of pitches to complain about tonight. Not that one.

Yeah the home plate umpire has been calling a plate wider than his ass. But that pitch was a good pitch on the corner.
   55. Jay Seaver Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:51 AM (#5526783)
I like this Smith fellow's slider.
   56. Textbook Editor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:55 AM (#5526786)
#53/#55--It's a hell of a slider to RHB. I'll enjoy seeing him be in the pen in 2018.

   57. Bote Man Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:57 AM (#5526787)
Tim Beckham has balls of steel to take those last 2 pitches from Betances, but his BB allows Manny Machado to stride to the plate with a chance to win it.

And win it he does! Mucho Machado!
   58. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:58 AM (#5526788)
DH still intact.

The Jays 4th string catcher (but with Martin out he's #3) is now playing 3B!
   59. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 06, 2017 at 12:58 AM (#5526789)
The Red Sox are going to lose this aren't they?

At least NY is now losing...
   60. Baldrick Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:00 AM (#5526790)
Onto the 19th!
   61. Textbook Editor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:00 AM (#5526791)
Well, this is a hell of a thing.
   62. Textbook Editor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:02 AM (#5526792)
33 innings, here we come!

Evergreen question (for situations like this): There are no longer curfews, right? So this one goes until dawn if need be, right?
   63. Baldrick Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:03 AM (#5526793)
12th pitcher for the Red Sox. How many are they carrying now?
   64. Jay Seaver Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:04 AM (#5526794)
There are two more left. Plus Mitch.
   65. Jay Seaver Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:05 AM (#5526795)
Has Fister or anyone been spotted walking to the bullpen yet?
   66. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:06 AM (#5526796)
12th pitcher for the Red Sox


Red Sox going the full Sciosia!

I've seen enough, time to breakout the Apple watch again and find out what Toronto is going to throw next inning.
   67. Baldrick Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:06 AM (#5526797)
How in the hell does Justin Smoak have 37 home runs? 2017 is so unbelievably stupid.
   68. Textbook Editor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:08 AM (#5526798)
This one goes to (the bottom of the) nineteen(th)!
   69. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:08 AM (#5526799)
12th pitcher for the Red Sox.

Take that, Scioscia!
   70. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:08 AM (#5526801)
2017 is so unbelievably stupid.


Next thing you'll tell me is N. Korea will be testing nuclear bombs and the U.S. will have Donald Trump in charge to solve this issue!
   71. Jay Seaver Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:08 AM (#5526802)
Got to admit, I'm kind of hoping for a 21st Inning Stretch at this point.
   72. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:09 AM (#5526803)
OK, so NY sh*t the bed tonight and lost by giving up 2 in the 9th.

C'mon Red Sox, this would be just ever so sweet to win this one.
   73. Textbook Editor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:09 AM (#5526804)
#65--Velasquez is the length out of the pen, I think, because he was a starter in AAA. Presumably he has 3-5 IP in him, at least. After that... after that all hell breaks loose.
   74. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:10 AM (#5526805)
C'mon, 2 flyballs to deep right...this is all I ask..
   75. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:12 AM (#5526806)
thank effing christ...
   76. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:12 AM (#5526807)
That was exciting.
   77. villageidiom Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:12 AM (#5526808)
C'mon, 2 flyballs to deep right...this is all I ask..
Or just one to shallow center!
   78. Jay Seaver Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:13 AM (#5526809)
And it's won on a goofy popup. Of course.
   79. Bote Man Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:13 AM (#5526810)
Hanley Ramirez bloops a hit into CF to score Mookie from 2B, Red Sox win. This AL Wild Card race is more interesting than other games, I suppose. Somebody pinch me.

EDIT: Oh, I didn't refresh, I didn't think anybody was still around. I figgered y'all packed up and left for the hurricane. Shows you what I know!
   80. Textbook Editor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:13 AM (#5526811)
I'm not giving him enough credit... but Hanley has seemed all year like he's just a guess hitter now. More often than not, he guesses right.

Or gets a bloop single...
   81. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:14 AM (#5526812)
Those Apple watch notifications are working like a charm, Red Sox scoring every 9th inning or so...
   82. Baldrick Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:18 AM (#5526813)
Game over. Now time to check and see what happened in the Open and...yep, Querrey/Anderson still going strong. Might finish by 2 AM
   83. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:21 AM (#5526816)
CJ Cron with a TRIPLE! Angels take the lead!
   84. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:37 AM (#5526819)
DBacks put men on 2nd and 3rd with one out, and Drury bounces one to 3rd base. Justin Turner goes home with what looked like a good throw, and Grandal just plain missed it. Ball bounces away, both runners score, and Arizona's got a chance to win yet another game against the Dodgers.
   85. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:52 AM (#5526822)
Fatigue doesn't come up too often in games other than for pitchers and maybe catchers but am I crazy for thinking that fatigue helped the Sox? Carreras probably could've caught Mookie's ball and Pillar probably should've been more shallow for Hanley.
   86. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 01:56 AM (#5526823)
Diamondbacks have now won 12 straight. Dodgers are 1-10 in their last 11. Lead has been reduced from 21 games to 11.5 games in a mere 11 days.
   87. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 06, 2017 at 02:15 AM (#5526828)
Diamondbacks have now won 12 straight.


Pffft. Cleveland says big f*cking deal......
   88. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 06, 2017 at 02:23 AM (#5526829)
The Angels only need 7 relievers to win this one in 10 innings. They now move ahead of the Twins in the WC2 race!
   89. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 06, 2017 at 02:30 AM (#5526830)
[87] Ok, but Minnesota is 5-5 in their last 10, so Cleveland isn't making the kind of hay Arizona is right now.

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