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Tuesday, April 02, 2013

Opening Day II: Electric Boogaloo OMNICHATTER

The Orioles, Rays, Jays and Indians get their season started, while some other teams “merely” are playing game 2.

Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 12:38 AM | 261 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 06:05 PM (#4402427)
Jim Johnson in.
   102. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 06:05 PM (#4402428)
*flip*
   103. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 06:06 PM (#4402429)
Jim Johnson isn't going to save 51 games again this year, is he.
   104. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 06:08 PM (#4402432)

Jim Johnson isn't going to save 51 games again this year, is he.


I think he should try to start with 1.
   105. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 06:17 PM (#4402442)
So... 1.
   106. cardsfanboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 06:25 PM (#4402448)
I have to say that looking at the saves leader from last year in the Al is not impressive at all. Only Nathan and Soriano could be called elite closers.
   107. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 02, 2013 at 06:50 PM (#4402455)
Only Nathan and Soriano could be called elite closers.

Not Kimbrel, Chapman and/or Papelbon? I would agree that we have a shortage of ace closers. I noticed the lack of sure things in my fantasy draft preparation.

Anyway, R.A. Dickey's Toronto debut, in a dome I think is must-see baseball tv tonight. I'm stoked!

EDIT: just realized you were looking at the AL.
   108. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: April 02, 2013 at 06:59 PM (#4402460)
I noticed that in the draft for my AL only league. I didn't pay much attention pre-draft, and it wasn't until we were several rounds in that I noticed that there were almost no elite, dependable closers to be had.

Lots of great plays in the Orioles-Rays game. If not for the Rays stellar defense (mostly Fuld and Longoria) the Orioles would have scored 10-12 runs. Davis, Wieters, and Jones were crushing the ball.
   109. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:28 PM (#4402477)
Geddy Lee throws a nice paint-the-corners strike for the Blue Jays ceremonial first pitch.
   110. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:35 PM (#4402481)
Oooh. That knuckleball looks like it's dipping and diving.
   111. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:35 PM (#4402482)
The Knuckleball cometh.
   112. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:40 PM (#4402486)
Wait, wait... Cornflake is a FIVE-TIME ALL-STAR!?!?!
   113. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:45 PM (#4402491)
I had no idea Dickey worked so fast. That's awesome. And I remember Buerhle also works fast (a game he and Halladay started was done crazy quick - 1hr50m).
   114. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:46 PM (#4402492)
Cornflake?
Who has that nickname?
   115. cardsfanboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:47 PM (#4402493)
Who has that nickname?


I was wondering the same thing.
   116. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:48 PM (#4402494)
They flashed a brief advertisement for "42" with the tag "The True Story of An American Legend" on it on the Toronto feed. Makes me wonder how they are marketing it around the world.
   117. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:48 PM (#4402496)
I thought it was Swisher, but he only got to the all-star game once by winning the final vote.
   118. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:49 PM (#4402497)

I thought it was Swisher, but he only got to the all-star game once by winning the final vote.


I thought they said he was a 5-time All Star, but that coudl have been Buck Martinez screwing up.
   119. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:51 PM (#4402499)
Well, he does have a website tracking the number of blunders he makes in a season.
   120. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:52 PM (#4402500)
Well, the PA announcer when introducing Dickey said he "reached the 200 win plateau for the first time in his career".
Obviously an extra "0" was added and he just read it straight from the sheet.
   121. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:53 PM (#4402501)
Obviously an extra "0" was added and he just read it straight from the sheet.


"I'm Ron Burgundy?"
   122. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:55 PM (#4402504)
I had forgotten how fun it was to watch Dickey throw his knuckler. It has such crazy motion.
   123. cardsfanboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:56 PM (#4402507)
Well, the PA announcer when introducing Dickey said he "reached the 200 win plateau for the first time in his career".
Obviously an extra "0" was added and he just read it straight from the sheet


He's Canadian, he was converting it to metric.
   124. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:57 PM (#4402508)
Cupless JP Arencibia: 2 innings, 2 passed balls. Option B is Henry Blanco. This really is a no-win situation.

Edit: spoke too soon. 2 innings, 3 passed balls.
   125. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:58 PM (#4402510)
The passed balls are going to be a real problem this year...
   126. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:00 PM (#4402514)
How long until people start crying about how Dickey can't hack it in the American League?
   127. Dale Sams Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:01 PM (#4402515)
Where's Thole?
   128. zonk Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:01 PM (#4402516)
Ahhh....

Have I mentioned how much I like baseball? Because I really like baseball.

Early April is my favorite time of year.
   129. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:06 PM (#4402520)
Where's Thole?


AAA Buffalo. The Jays decided to use Henry Blanco as the backup instead of him.
   130. Dale Sams Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:07 PM (#4402522)
AAA Buffalo. The Jays decided to use Henry Blanco as the backup instead of him.


Ow. Gonna be a lot of balls goin to the backstop.
   131. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:09 PM (#4402526)
AAA Buffalo. The Jays decided to use Henry Blanco as the backup instead of him.



Ow. Gonna be a lot of balls goin to the backstop.


Put up the Mirabelli Signal.
   132. Dale Sams Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:12 PM (#4402529)
Is Masterson less sidearm than he used to be?
   133. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:13 PM (#4402530)
marco Estrada is a very simple pitcher in his approach. as a fan one hopes it gets rewarded.
   134. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:17 PM (#4402534)
Arencibia simply cannot catch a f**king thing that Dickey is throwing. Two passed balls in one at-bat this inning! Good thing there was nobody on.
   135. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:18 PM (#4402536)
that was a very nice changeup by estrada
   136. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:22 PM (#4402540)
Melky looking pretty tubby again...but he's hit the ball on the screws twice in a row.
   137. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:23 PM (#4402542)
nice catch by gonzalez
   138. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:40 PM (#4402557)
Someone should really start bringing a "JP Arencibia passed ball counter" sign to Dickey starts at the Skydome.
   139. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:40 PM (#4402559)
J.P. Arencibia cannot catch R.A. Dickey. Seven passed balls (or "wild pitches") and it's only the FOURTH INNING.

It's gotta be a record for the team, right?
   140. Nolan Giesbrecht Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:41 PM (#4402562)
This is my first time watching Dickey pitch....apparently it's also Arencibia's as well.

Passed ball that eliminates the double play ball on the next pitch...
   141. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:43 PM (#4402565)
R.A. Dickey and J.P. Arencibia had been practicing together as soon as Dickey was traded, since they both live near Nashville.

And then they practiced in Spring Training, the WBC and then Spring Training again.

Still. Not. Working. The knuckleball!
   142. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:46 PM (#4402567)
It's gotta be a record for the team, right?


The previous record for passed balls in a game by a Toronto catcher was 2. I wonder what the seasonal record is.
   143. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:46 PM (#4402569)
Passed ball that eliminates the double play ball on the next pitch...
This happened THREE TIMES ALREADY!
   144. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:47 PM (#4402570)
dexter fowler is a tall drink of water
   145. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:49 PM (#4402571)
The previous record for passed balls in a game by a Toronto catcher was 2. I wonder what the seasonal record is.
Whatever it is, it's gonna be busted into pieces before the All-Star Break at this rate.

Apparently the "official" tally is only three passed balls today so far -- the others have either been ruled 'wild pitches' (which seemed dubious on at least two calls) or came with nobody on base (two of those in one at-bat, in fact). But the announcers said that, yes, today has already broken the previous Jays record for passed balls.

Actually, the frankly surprising thing is that the prior record was only as high as 2.
   146. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:52 PM (#4402574)
Yu Darvish has 5 Ks through 2 innings. Houston Astros, everyone!
   147. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:54 PM (#4402575)
terrible at bat by lucroy

phew
   148. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 02, 2013 at 08:55 PM (#4402577)
I would totally pay* for an .mp3 file of Buck Martinez saying "let the mind games begin" in the creepiest voice imaginable.

* This is not a promise.
   149. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:00 PM (#4402581)
something has happened with carlos gomez where if you throw him something inside he is going to both hit it hard and keep it fair

that started around july of last year and he just did it again.

before gomez needed a ball away from him to do anything
   150. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:01 PM (#4402582)
The record for most passed balls by a Jays catcher appears to be:

14 - Sandy Martinez in 1995 (he only caught 472 innings / 52 games)
13 - Ken Huckaby in 2002 (in 683 innings)
12 - JP Arencibia in 2011 (over 1059 innings... Jose Molina also had 8 passed balls in 399 innings)


1985 Blue Jays - Three (3). Total. By everyone who appeared at catcher over the course of the season.
   151. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:03 PM (#4402584)
The previous record for passed balls in a game by a Toronto catcher was 2. I wonder what the seasonal record is.


14 - Sandy Martinez, 1995 (61 games), Bob Davis, 1980 (89 games)
   152. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:04 PM (#4402585)
For some reason I'm surprised at how continuously excellent Aramis Ramirez has been. Guy's had exactly one poor season in the last decade. For some reason I'd just assumed he was washed up and on the downslope.
   153. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:05 PM (#4402587)
Coke me! And the 14 for Davis in 1980 is wild pitches, not passed balls.
   154. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:05 PM (#4402588)
so I listened to more joe and rany based on folks here saying that it was a good podcast

another example of Sheehan's complete ability to be a jack8ss

he crushed ned yost as a tactical manager. said he would cost the royals multiple games in 2013

this is the same guy who:

--used to crush people for complaining about tactics because it 'didn't matter'

--mocked brewer fans in 2007 and 2008 for griping about yost and yost's inability to grasp basic in-game approaches

--sneered at people complaining about yost's bullpen management in 2007 and 2008

I am fine with people evolving on the topic. but when someone was so domineering on the topic listening to the podcast one had to sneer in routine wondering why it took so long for someone allegedly informed on baseball to take so long to understand that ned yost couldn't manage a porn site to a profit
   155. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:06 PM (#4402589)
How about Marco Estrada knuckling down and getting the two-out hit!

And Carlos Gomez was running like mad the whole time.
   156. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:07 PM (#4402590)
intentional walk bites rockies. rockies walk segura to pitch to the pitcher who singles in gomez
   157. cardsfanboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:08 PM (#4402591)
intentional walk bites rockies. rockies walk segura to pitch to the pitcher who singles in gomez


That wouldn't have happened if they had the DH... :)
   158. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:08 PM (#4402592)
eso:

carlos gomez always runs like mad.

his hustle is adored in Milwaukee

even when he's running into outs
   159. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:08 PM (#4402593)
Cardsfanboy beat me to it.
   160. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:08 PM (#4402594)
intentional walk bites rockies. rockies walk segura to pitch to the pitcher who singles in gomez
Knowing nothing whatsoever about Marco Estrada as a pitcher or a batter, I could just tell from watching his body language at the plate, and his cuts, that he wasn't totally hopeless as a hitter. He looked a lot more confident up there than, say, Nyjer Morgan sometimes does.
   161. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:09 PM (#4402595)
Coke me! And the 14 for Davis in 1980 is wild pitches, not passed balls.


That's what I get for trying to read that information off a small hand-held device.
   162. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:10 PM (#4402596)
Nyjer Morgan is in Japan now.
   163. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:10 PM (#4402597)
eso

correct. kudos for the brewers cornering the market in Mexican pitchers who can hit
   164. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:13 PM (#4402599)
That's what I get for trying to read that information off a small hand-held device.


Sorry, that was kind of a dick response. Thanks for looking that up, I'm amused by the idea that JP could pass the all-time record in 5-6 games with Dickey starting.
   165. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:14 PM (#4402601)
correct. kudos for the brewers cornering the market in Mexican pitchers who can hit
Not bad, but he's got a long way to go until he's Strasburg... ;-)

EDIT: Not in terms of being Mexican, but in terms of being able to hit. He'll pretty much always have Strasburg beaten cold on the Mexican part.

SECOND EDIT: Damn did Tulo ever clobber that ball.
   166. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:15 PM (#4402602)
tulo just crushed one
   167. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:17 PM (#4402605)
Trying to imagine a universe where Tulowitzski never had any health problems...almost makes me kind of sad to think about what he's lost out on already.
   168. Dale Sams Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:19 PM (#4402606)
That was actually a QS for Dickey.
   169. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:19 PM (#4402607)
Harveys, any thoughts on Rickie Weeks? I remember you commenting on him a couple times in the past, was wondering what you made of his disappointing season last year.
   170. Lassus Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:19 PM (#4402608)
Harvey, please tell me that excessive snow assists the corn, feed, and vegetable crops come spring and summer, because we are dying here in northern New York and I need something to feel good about during this terrible terrible weather.
   171. Honkie Kong Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:21 PM (#4402610)
BTW looks like Darvish something special a twirling against Houston.
   172. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:22 PM (#4402612)
eso

he had an awful first half and then was rickie weeks. would have been better in his career if he had not made getting hit by pitchers part of his approach. the constant owies wore on him and playing second as well didn't help

and braun cranks one
   173. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:24 PM (#4402614)
Ya know, it just isn't the same with the Brewers since they stopped allowing Bernie Brewer to slide into a giant mug full of foamy suds. This replacement slide just ain't makin' it.
   174. Dale Sams Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:24 PM (#4402617)
Any word on Brian Wilson?
   175. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:24 PM (#4402618)
Thanks for the heads-up, #171.
   176. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4402619)
Darvish 9 Ks after 4.

Also: Member of my fantasy team.

(Fistpump)
   177. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4402620)
Any word on Brian Wilson?
Word is he burned out in a major way while trying to finish up Smile and was never quite the same afterwards.
   178. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:26 PM (#4402622)
would have been better in his career if he had not made getting hit by pitchers part of his approach. the constant owies wore on him and playing second as well didn't help
Craig Biggio would like a word with you, HW.
   179. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:31 PM (#4402626)
eso

one of the items not discussed much about manager ron is him quietly approaching rickie and telling him to ease off on the hit by pitches. it's subtle but if you are paying attention you see rickie ease out of the way of pitches he used to just let hit him a la don Baylor

ron isn't perfect as a manager but it's stuff like that that works for me
   180. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:40 PM (#4402636)
Yu having a hell of a night.
   181. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:41 PM (#4402637)
Darvish is at 70 pitches through 5. If it continues at this rate, would they really let him finish it?
   182. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:42 PM (#4402638)
biff

is ron Washington the black terry Collins?
   183. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:45 PM (#4402644)
gonzalez crushed one
   184. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:46 PM (#4402645)

is ron Washington the black terry Collins?


I have to say that anybody being called the Black Terry Collins has had to never happen before.
   185. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:47 PM (#4402647)
Darvish is at 70 pitches through 5. If it continues at this rate, would they really let him finish it?
Quite simply, there's no way a manager is going to take a veteran pitcher out of a perfecto.

Or maybe this was a joke.
   186. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:47 PM (#4402648)
Because it's Canada, there was a network commercial about a PREVIEW show (after tonight's baseball game) about the NHL trade deadline show tomorrow. Both major sports networks will be broadcasting nothing but NHL trades (and talk) for approximately 10 hours straight (beginning at 8:00am) on Wednesday, with a recap during the 6pm sports desk segment, and another longer recap in the evening.
   187. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:48 PM (#4402649)
I love the last name "Corporan." That's the evil multi-national conglomerate in a dystopian sci-fi movie. I'm seeing them as a manufacturer of metroids, perhaps.
   188. Honkie Kong Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:50 PM (#4402650)
Quite simply, there's no way a manager is going to take a veteran pitcher out of a perfecto.

Ron Washington sure as hell is praying for a hit from the Astros right now.
Dunno if you can call Darvish a vet.
   189. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:51 PM (#4402652)
Any chance Chris Perez might close the game for the Indians? Please?

   190. Sonic Youk Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:51 PM (#4402653)
Darvish is gonna be big this year

18 down
   191. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:52 PM (#4402654)
Quite simply, there's no way a manager is going to take a veteran pitcher out of a perfecto.

Or maybe this was a joke.


Not a joke. Do you want Darvish throwing 130 pitches to start the season if that is what is needed for him to finish a perfect game?

82 through 6 innings now.
   192. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:52 PM (#4402655)
Ron Washington sure as hell is praying for a hit from the Astros right now.
Dunno if you can call Darvish a vet.
How many years' experience did he have in Japan before coming over here last season? He's definitely not a young rookie with an indeterminately healthy arm, that's for sure.

As a passing observation, I'm pleased by the Rangers TV crew's blithe willingness to dispense with superstition and just flatly point out that Darvish is pitching a perfect game.
   193. Esoteric Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:56 PM (#4402659)
Not a joke. Do you want Darvish throwing 130 pitches to start the season if that is what is needed for him to finish a perfect game?
It is a good point. However, can you think of a current manager that WOULD pull the plug? No joke: name one that would 1.) be inclined to do it; 2.) have the standing and credibility to be able to get away with it, both in the clubhouse and in the media.

Davey Johnson is the only one I can think of that might possibly qualify on both counts. And even then I'm not sure.
   194. puck Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:57 PM (#4402662)
So, if Tulo and CarGo both homer, the Rockies can stay in the game? Good to know.
   195. Dale Sams Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:57 PM (#4402664)
re: Throwing too many pitchs in a perfecto/field players pitching/All-Star tie game

Are mlb players completely incapable of easing off and just trying to hit the mitt?
   196. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:57 PM (#4402666)
Because it's Canada, there was a network commercial about a PREVIEW show (after tonight's baseball game) about the NHL trade deadline show tomorrow. Both major sports networks will be broadcasting nothing but NHL trades (and talk) for approximately 10 hours straight (beginning at 8:00am) on Wednesday, with a recap during the 6pm sports desk segment, and another longer recap in the evening.


How is this really any different from the NFL Draft?
   197. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:59 PM (#4402669)
one of the items not discussed much about manager ron is him quietly approaching rickie and telling him to ease off on the hit by pitches.


Rickie got HBP'd leading off the tenth yesterday, and ended up scoring the winning run. So I guess it's still at the bottom of the toolbox when he needs it.
   198. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: April 02, 2013 at 10:02 PM (#4402677)
If you pitch a perfect game against a MLB team with a payroll on par with the Long Island Ducks, does it still go into the record books?
   199. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 02, 2013 at 10:03 PM (#4402678)
tom

he got hit I think in the foot

the rickie of 2010 and before was constantly taking blows to his arms/hands/etc

   200. Gamingboy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 10:03 PM (#4402679)
Kinsler's dinger makes it easier to leave Darvish in.
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