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Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Orioles rushing Dylan Bundy to Seattle, report says

In the wake of the 18-inning game Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, the Orioles reportedly have made a special call for additional pitching depth. FoxSports is reporting that top pitching prospect Dylan Bundy is headed for Seattle and could be there in time for tonight’s series finale against the Mariners at Safeco Field.

It makes sense.

The future is now.

NattyBoh Posted: September 19, 2012 at 08:46 AM | 48 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. escabeche Posted: September 19, 2012 at 09:09 AM (#4239896)
Holy crap, this just keeps getting better and better.
   2. JRVJ Posted: September 19, 2012 at 09:09 AM (#4239897)
After an 18 inning game, I hope Bundy is flying to Seattle with 4 other young pitchers (and no, I haven't RTFA).
   3. DKDC Posted: September 19, 2012 at 09:17 AM (#4239903)
Whoa.
   4. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 19, 2012 at 09:22 AM (#4239906)
Who would have put odds on the Orioles and Nationals both making the playoffs at the start of the season AND Dylan Bundy pitching but Stephen Strasburg not? (not that I think Bundy would make the O's post-season roster).
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 19, 2012 at 09:39 AM (#4239921)
not that I think Bundy would make the O's post-season roster

Can he? Was he on the 40-man on Sept. 1?
   6. Rants Mulliniks Posted: September 19, 2012 at 09:39 AM (#4239922)
I'll never get tired of looking at his low-A line from this year: 30 IP, 5 hits, 0 ER (2 R), 5 BB, 40 K, 0.233 WHIP.
   7. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: September 19, 2012 at 09:43 AM (#4239928)
I think he can replace a pitcher who's on the 60 day DL for the playoffs.
   8. Curse of the Andino Posted: September 19, 2012 at 09:50 AM (#4239938)
I think he can replace a pitcher who's on the 60 day DL for the playoffs.


Yeah, I assume that's why they didn't put Markakis on the DL--not sure who will replace him.
   9. DKDC Posted: September 19, 2012 at 10:08 AM (#4239957)
Markakis wasn’t put on the DL, because there’s no advantage to putting a player on the 15-day DL in September, and they hope he’s out less than 60 days.
   10. escabeche Posted: September 19, 2012 at 10:21 AM (#4239966)
1. Does this affect Bundy's years under team control?
2. Is there any chance he gets a start, or is this to shore up the tired bullpen?
   11. Tripon Posted: September 19, 2012 at 10:25 AM (#4239968)
This starts Bundy's service clock, and assuming he stays up, he'll be a FA in 2019. But it seems likely the O's will not just stash him til June or July of next year to make up the difference.
   12. NattyBoh Posted: September 19, 2012 at 10:32 AM (#4239974)
1. Does this affect Bundy's years under team control?


I doubt that it will make him a Super 2. Those guys usually get called up in June.

2. Is there any chance he gets a start, or is this to shore up the tired bullpen?

What I've been reading is bullpen. After last night I'm expecting to see Chris Davis again and possibly Matt Wieters who was also a closer in college. Maybe get an inning or two out of Markakis if he were healthy.
   13. AROM Posted: September 19, 2012 at 11:14 AM (#4240009)
Orioles got 8 1/3 scoreless innings from 3 guys who were starters but now pitch long relief - Johnson, Arrieta, and Hunter. I'd assume they'll be out today. Matusz and Jim Johnson threw 12 pitches each. They should be fine. O'Day and Strop were in the 20's. Ayala didn't even pitch last night. It's hard to keep track of who's pitching where, whether Randy Wolf is in the pen or rotation.

Looks like they should be fine with end of game options if Saunders gives them 5-6, but would need an extra arm if Saunders gets knocked out early or they get into another extra inning affair.
   14. PreservedFish Posted: September 19, 2012 at 12:12 PM (#4240067)
This is totally awesome. What an exciting time for Orioles fans.
   15. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: September 19, 2012 at 12:29 PM (#4240092)
It'll be K-Rod 2002 all over again. Normally I hate that nickname variant, but 'D-Bund' would be awesome.
   16. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: September 19, 2012 at 12:44 PM (#4240104)
The parallels with David Price in 2008 are pretty striking.
   17. esseff Posted: September 19, 2012 at 12:53 PM (#4240114)
not that I think Bundy would make the O's post-season roster

Can he? Was he on the 40-man on Sept. 1?

I think he can replace a pitcher who's on the 60 day DL for the playoffs.


Any player who was in the organization on Aug. 31 can replace an injured player (doesn't have to be 60-day) on the postseason roster. The restriction of a pitcher only replacing a pitcher was eliminated several years ago.
   18. Gamingboy Posted: September 19, 2012 at 12:54 PM (#4240115)
Normally I hate that nickname variant, but 'D-Bund' would be awesome.


Unless we can do the "Somethingawful gives Trout a nickname" method and get him the nickname, "The Owasso Express".
   19. MM1f Posted: September 19, 2012 at 01:08 PM (#4240133)
I don't understand why a contender wouldn't already have as many guys on the MLB club as they could fit in September
   20. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 19, 2012 at 01:33 PM (#4240165)
I don't understand why a contender wouldn't already have as many guys on the MLB club as they could fit in September


I can think of a couple of reasons;

1. Cost - It simply costs money to fly people around and while teams make shitloads of money, they don't get rich by spending money unnecessarily.

2. Benefit - There is likely an argument to be made that letting players, particularly young players, head home and rest for the off-season is more beneficial than traveling with the team so they can have a really good seat for a pennant race.

I'm with you in general terms. I think every contender should have a third catcher and probably a designated pinch runner at the very least. In this situation the circumstances that have led to Bundy being called are pretty extreme. At the same time the Orioles are certainly going to be able to get him to Seattle in plenty of time for tonight's game. I wouldn't be shocked if he got a text message or even late night/early morning call about the 14th inning that said "at 9AM some guy is picking you up and taking you to BWI for a flight to Seattle. Bring your glove."
   21. The District Attorney Posted: September 19, 2012 at 01:47 PM (#4240180)
Heh, Joe Sheehan told Rany Jazayerli that if Bundy came up this year, Joe would get a Royals tattoo on his ass. Their next podcast will be fun.
   22. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 19, 2012 at 02:01 PM (#4240193)
. . . the Orioles are certainly going to be able to get him to Seattle in plenty of time for tonight's game.

Where is he coming from? Bowie's season is over, and the Instructional League hasn't started, so Bundy could be just about anywhere taking a few days off. The article was posted around noon, so it's not clear if Bundy was notified at dawn. In any event, a Mirabelli-like dash from the airport would only add to the Legend-In-The-Making storyline, although being a road game, the local authorities might not be as cooperative.
   23. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: September 19, 2012 at 02:05 PM (#4240201)
Bundy was in Florida.

The orioles had already called up a ton of people, but I think they wanted Bundy to spend time in the instructional league and didn't want to start his clock.
   24. Jose Molina wants a nickname like "A-Rod" Posted: September 19, 2012 at 02:45 PM (#4240246)
Speaking of the nickname variant, I can't imagine it's PCness that's stopping people from fooling with Jose Molina.

I also like it applied Michael Kay.
   25. Tippecanoe Posted: September 19, 2012 at 02:47 PM (#4240249)
get him the nickname, "The Owasso Express".


I like that one, or maybe "The Wild Hoss of Owasso".
   26. esseff Posted: September 19, 2012 at 03:09 PM (#4240279)
Of course, there's another first-round pick from Owasso already in the majors. And playing fairly regularly for the past week or so.
   27. Curse of the Andino Posted: September 19, 2012 at 03:15 PM (#4240288)
The orioles had already called up a ton of people, but I think they wanted Bundy to spend time in the instructional league and didn't want to start his clock.


Yeah, I think Bundy walked four guys in his last start at Double A, so Buck et al wanted him to work on things rather than go to the majors... then again, this season, I should be getting my call-up for the last Tampa series, right?
   28. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: September 19, 2012 at 03:15 PM (#4240289)
"Death Bun"
   29. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 19, 2012 at 03:16 PM (#4240290)
I don't understand why a contender wouldn't already have as many guys on the MLB club as they could fit in September


If you call a guy up, and you send him to the minors the next year, you burn an option year. That might be a concern. If a guy is out of options, you have to DFA him and get him through waivers. You also start clogging your 40 man roster which you may need to think long-term with the Rule 5 draft coming up. I realize these are all secondary concerns to winning a division title, but with the utility of the 39th and 40th guy on the roster helping you in September being quite small, these are valid concerns.
   30. JJ1986 Posted: September 19, 2012 at 03:25 PM (#4240303)
Most of the arguments apply to prospects, or at least guys who will be in the organization next year. Only money really keeps you from calling up some AAAA players and then outrighting them as soon as the season ends.
   31. esseff Posted: September 19, 2012 at 03:33 PM (#4240317)
Only money really keeps you from calling up some AAAA players and then outrighting them as soon as the season ends.


But teams don't tend to have a whole lot of AAAA players on their 40-man rosters. And adding a bunch of those guys to the 40-man would force them to DFA (place on waivers for purpose of outright assignment) some of their prospects to make room.
   32. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: September 19, 2012 at 03:47 PM (#4240339)
"Ted". He is death on opposing hitters.
   33. JJ1986 Posted: September 19, 2012 at 03:55 PM (#4240347)
And adding a bunch of those guys to the 40-man would force them to DFA (place on waivers for purpose of outright assignment) some of their prospects to make room.


Yes, but every team has to have some space it can clear. Just looking at the O's because they're the example, Betemit is out for the season and prospect Oliver Drake is on the minor league DL. Both could be 60-day DL'd to make room without losing anyone.
   34. spycake Posted: September 19, 2012 at 04:05 PM (#4240353)
But teams don't tend to have a whole lot of AAAA players on their 40-man rosters. And adding a bunch of those guys to the 40-man would force them to DFA (place on waivers for purpose of outright assignment) some of those prospects.


Also, some of those AAAA guys you may want to keep, if not on the 40-man then at AAA, and you'd rather wait for an opportune time to try passing them through waivers.

For most teams, and in the vast majority of circumstances, these guys wouldn't see more than a couple innings or at-bats anyway. The Orioles already had 14 healthy pitchers on their staff, as far as I can tell.

And to be fair, the Orioles have already called some "extra" AAAA guys up. Lew Ford and Steve Tolleson sure aren't prospects.
   35. esseff Posted: September 19, 2012 at 04:30 PM (#4240373)
Also, some of those AAAA guys you may want to keep, if not on the 40-man then at AAA, and you'd rather wait for an opportune time to try passing them through waivers.


Well, most of the players I think of as AAAA are going to be eligible for minor-league free agency if dumped from the 40-man roster after the season (and not claimed by another team), so you're not going to be able to hang on to them unless they're willing.



   36. birdlives is one crazy ninja Posted: September 19, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4240406)
It'll be K-Rod 2002 all over again. Normally I hate that nickname variant, but 'D-Bund' would be awesome.

Bundy the Younger, sort of like Pliny the Younger. Bobby is obviously Bobby the Elder.
   37. Walt Davis Posted: September 19, 2012 at 05:37 PM (#4240420)
"Aaaaal"

1. Does this affect Bundy's years under team control?

No it really has no impact on his service time. It's, what, 12 days of service time and you become an FA when you finish a season with a full 6+ years of service time. If he makes the team out of spring training next year and never goes back down, then he becomes an FA at the same time he would have anyway (2019). If the O's want to keep him through 2020, they just need to keep him down for something like 3 weeks. Somebody mentioned super-2 and, yes, if the O's want to keep him from super-2 status for 2016 then they'll have to keep him down for 2 weeks longer than they otherwise would.

Was he already on the 40-man roster? If not then the biggest possible impact is on his option years in that the O's will have to burn an option on him to start him in the minors next year. But that only becomes an issue if Bundy struggles in MLB across a few years, potentially requiring several trips back to AAA. But it doesn't seem likely that a burned option year would bite them in the ass. (If he was already on the 40-man then they already used an option year this year and already had committed to possibly using one next year so nothing is lost.)
   38. JJ1986 Posted: September 19, 2012 at 05:40 PM (#4240421)
Was he already on the 40-man roster?


Yes. ML deal after the draft.
   39. AROM Posted: September 19, 2012 at 05:57 PM (#4240437)
There should be a cheering section of middle aged men in wrinkled shirts and I'll-fitted ties, who rest one hand under the belt buckle. Their wives should have big hair (if she didn't watch much 90's TV), tell her she's dressing up for hunfest, it is Baltimore after all. Bring the kids. After every K, give a "whoa Bundy!" cheer. Hang a ladies shoe to keep track of the K's.
   40. esseff Posted: September 19, 2012 at 06:00 PM (#4240442)
Better to riff on Al Bundy, than Ted Bundy.
   41. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: September 19, 2012 at 06:06 PM (#4240447)
After getting three strikes on a batter he should demand that the ump give him 5 before ringing him up.
   42. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 19, 2012 at 06:07 PM (#4240451)

This is totally awesome. What an exciting time for Orioles fans.


That's what I thought - all the best to the O's fans here!
   43. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 19, 2012 at 06:18 PM (#4240465)
After every K, give a "whoa Bundy!" cheer.


If they don't do this at Camden Yards when he pitches there I will be disappointed.
   44. Gamingboy Posted: September 19, 2012 at 06:19 PM (#4240468)
"Solomon" Dylan Bundy. If only he had been born on a Monday...
   45. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 19, 2012 at 06:31 PM (#4240486)
I'd just call him "Zimmy."
   46. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 19, 2012 at 07:28 PM (#4240563)
Better to riff on Al Bundy, than Ted Bundy.

There's McGeorge Bundy, too.
   47. rlc Posted: September 19, 2012 at 09:05 PM (#4240622)
I don't understand why a contender wouldn't already have as many guys on the MLB club as they could fit in September


Every member of the Orioles' 40 man roster is now either with the team or injured, except poor Joe Mahoney. This after Showalter gave the usual "We're not going to call too many guys up" spiel on August 31st. In addition, the O's DFA'd Kevin Gregg and Ryan Adams in September order to add Endy Chavez and L.J. Hoes. I'm beginning to agree with the analysis that Duquette spent his decade in the wilderness storing up roster moves and upon his return to MLB he has let loose like Gargantua greeting the Parisians.

Also, Bunderdog.
   48. escabeche Posted: September 19, 2012 at 09:12 PM (#4240626)
Captain Bunderpants?

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