Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Friday, June 20, 2014

Orioles starters can’t fool hitters

Orioles starters have trouble getting batters to swing at pitches out of the zone, particularly Ubaldo Jimenez:

“Hitters swing at only 24.5% of Jimenez’s pitches out of the zone, fewer than one out of four. This is great, because he throws out of the zone so rarel—err, no, wait, he throws out of the zone 53.6% of the time. Dang.”

rpollack Posted: June 20, 2014 at 02:02 PM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: orioles, pitchfx, pitching, strike zone

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: June 20, 2014 at 03:51 PM (#4731766)
Isn't it possible that hitters don't swing at Jimenez's pitches out of the zone because they know that more than half of his pitches are going to be out of the zone?
   2. Bhaakon Posted: June 20, 2014 at 03:56 PM (#4731776)
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that a pitcher who throws that many pitches outside the zone is also missing it by a wider margin than most.
   3. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: June 20, 2014 at 04:33 PM (#4731825)
Having seen him pitch in person a couple of times this year, I'm going to say that you seem to be right.
   4. DKDC Posted: June 20, 2014 at 05:14 PM (#4731891)
I actually think Jimenez is more of a "nibbler" than a Daniel Cabrera wild thing type.

But I couldn't agree with the headline more.
   5. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: June 20, 2014 at 05:37 PM (#4731912)
Kip Wells Disease is usually terminal.
   6. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: June 20, 2014 at 06:48 PM (#4731937)
I could be imagining things, but its seems like the Orioles starters waste a lot of pitches. They'll get to 1-2 or 0-2 and then throw a couple balls WAY out of the zone. And then it's 2-2 or 3-2 and they have to throw a strike (or walk the guy).
   7. DKDC Posted: June 20, 2014 at 07:08 PM (#4731949)
Now watch Ubaldo go pitch a gem against the Yankees tonight. That would be such a Ubaldo thing to do.

Of course, so would walking 5 guys and allowing a couple grand slams in one inning like he did against the As...
   8. Moeball Posted: June 20, 2014 at 07:10 PM (#4731950)
So who's the pitching coach in Baltimore these days? Sounds like a lot of these issues should be adjustable...
   9. puck Posted: June 20, 2014 at 07:34 PM (#4731962)
Wow, career high walk rate for Ubaldo, and his fastball velocity has dropped even further?
   10. Walt Davis Posted: June 20, 2014 at 08:04 PM (#4731979)
Yeah, I'm not sure %swing out of zone is particularly useful. 24% of 53% is about 13% ... or about the same as 30% of 43%. The issue is almost certainly the 40/47 split (vs. 30/57) on the other pitches. That is possibly the same shape of the distribution and the same swing decisions (conditional on pitch location) but the "mean" location for Ubaldo is off the plate.
   11. joeysdadjoe Posted: June 21, 2014 at 10:06 AM (#4732149)
Britton had that problem too.....until Carlos Beltran.
   12. DKDC Posted: June 21, 2014 at 01:23 PM (#4732220)
Carlos Slim could've homered off Britton last night. He had nothing.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Jim Wisinski
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogArthur: Buster Posey Has Quietly Become A Lock For Cooperstown
(55 - 6:33pm, Aug 19)
Last: The Yankee Clapper

NewsblogOTP 14 August 2014: The American Pastimes of Rock ’n’ Roll, Baseball and Poetry
(2566 - 6:31pm, Aug 19)
Last: DavidFoss

NewsblogRed Sox want to do away with 'racist' legacy of famed Yawkey Way
(105 - 6:27pm, Aug 19)
Last: DavidFoss

NewsblogAin't no WEEKEND OMNICHATTER until someone gets punched in the face, for August 19-20, 2017
(29 - 6:23pm, Aug 19)
Last: cardsfanboy

NewsblogSkunk in the Outfield
(27 - 6:21pm, Aug 19)
Last: SoSHially Unacceptable

Gonfalon CubsNow or Never
(99 - 5:15pm, Aug 19)
Last: Moses Taylor, Unwavering Optimist

NewsblogMLBTR: Dodgers Acquire Curtis Granderson
(8 - 5:04pm, Aug 19)
Last: formerly dp

NewsblogOT: New Season August 2017 Soccer Thread
(151 - 3:39pm, Aug 19)
Last: madvillain

NewsblogOT-NBA off season thread
(1808 - 2:28pm, Aug 19)
Last: 2 dudes are better than STIGGLES; i'm both of em

NewsblogMLB.com: O's/Angels hit 10 home runs; Manny caps it off with Walk-Off Grand Slam
(1 - 2:19pm, Aug 19)
Last: LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim

NewsblogTwins Byron Buxton evolving as a hitter | MLB.com
(24 - 1:59pm, Aug 19)
Last: LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim

NewsblogSummer Top-100 Prospects | FanGraphs Baseball
(24 - 1:41pm, Aug 19)
Last: Tim M

NewsblogOMNICHATTER eats punks like you for breakfast, for August 18, 2017
(123 - 1:33pm, Aug 19)
Last: What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face?

Sox TherapyThe Gauntlet
(68 - 9:55am, Aug 19)
Last: Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 8-18-2017
(6 - 8:35am, Aug 19)
Last: Rennie's Tenet

Page rendered in 0.1465 seconds
47 querie(s) executed