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Thursday, January 24, 2013

OT-Superbowl: Kaepernick spurned Cubs to continue football career

Colin Kaepernick drew the attention of major league baseball scouts as a senior in high school in Turlock, Calif.

He could throw in the 90s and he had tossed two no-hitters. There were baseball scholarships and interest from some major league teams. The Chicago Cubs were particularly intrigued and interested enough to draft Kaepernick in the 43rd round of the 2009 amateur draft.

Figured the Superbowl should gets its own thread, and the regular football thread was getting large anyway. Also, this one is actually sorta baseball related as well.

Tripon Posted: January 24, 2013 at 11:49 PM | 49 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: baltimore, cubs, football, san francisco

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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: January 25, 2013 at 06:19 AM (#4354704)
Jeezum crow. If the Cubs had signed Kaepernick, they'd have had one hell of a passing game with him and Samardzija.
   2. Worrierking Posted: January 25, 2013 at 06:38 AM (#4354707)
Szczur too!
   3. Benji Posted: January 25, 2013 at 07:21 AM (#4354710)
As a Niners fan (except for Alex Smith) I thank the Cubs for not being more persuasive. Kap is the man!
   4. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: January 25, 2013 at 08:07 AM (#4354717)
Szczur too!
The handful of times I saw him play football, I was flabbergasted that he didn't get a scholarship to a FBS school. Kid could play.

I'm not sure he was really an NFL player - he seemed like he could have been a Jim Jensen sort of guy who could play HB/WR/TE/emergency QB, but that would require a coaching staff who's into that sort of thing.
   5. Bitter Mouse Posted: January 25, 2013 at 08:30 AM (#4354725)
Go 49ers. Superbowl party at my house :)
   6. depletion Posted: January 25, 2013 at 08:35 AM (#4354730)
Sounds cool, Mouse! What's the address? I'll bring chips.
   7. Moses Taylor, Moses Taylor Posted: January 25, 2013 at 09:48 AM (#4354772)
Jeezum crow. If the Cubs had signed Kaepernick, they'd have had one hell of a passing game with him and Samardzija.

Back when Samadzija was first coming up, they used to talk up him and Mark DeRosa (QB at Penn) being on the team together.
   8. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 25, 2013 at 09:58 AM (#4354777)
That's right, Kaepernick was the elusive star pitcher / QB combo. Such different arm motions.

Others included Mitchell Boggs, current Dodgers prospect Zach Lee, and NFL QBs Jeff Blake, Brandon Weeden and Brian Hoyer.

In an earlier thread we couldn't think of anyone except Chad Hutchinson who made the major leagues as both.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 25, 2013 at 10:54 AM (#4354829)
Chiefs QB Matt Cassel pitched one year at USC, which is about as much action as he saw on the football field there. The A's drafted him in the 36th round. His brother Jack was a MLB pitcher.

Kinda related, but the Marlins signed OF/QB Pat White today.
   10. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 25, 2013 at 10:57 AM (#4354831)
That's right, Kaepernick was the elusive star pitcher / QB combo. Such different arm motions.

They had an article on the birth of the Pistol on CBSSports.com the other day and Ault talked about Kaepernick and how he originally threw sidearm and ""He had that pitching throw." The whole article is an interesting read.
   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 25, 2013 at 11:09 AM (#4354845)
Bears QB Bobby Douglass pitched four games in AAA for Iowa after his NFL career was over.

The White Sox recently signed former Arkansas QB Mitch Mustain. He posted a 4.63 ERA in 19 games in low A this year after not pitching since HS.

Former Buckeyes QB Joe Bauserman pitched in the minors for the Pirates before going to Ohio State.

The Royals drafted P Jeff Granger in the first round out of Texas A&M, where was also the team QB. He briefly pitched in the majors.

   12. DA Baracus Posted: January 25, 2013 at 11:17 AM (#4354857)
Bears QB Bobby Douglass pitched four games in AAA for Iowa after his NFL career was over.


That's funny to me because Douglass couldn't throw in the NFL.
   13. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM (#4354859)
Jay Walker, who is now an ESPN Analyst and Maryland legislator, pitched one season in the minors for the Angels, and appeared in three games for the Minnesota Vikings as QB.

Former Tigers and Expos pitcher Joe Sparma was a QB at Ohio State.

Vida Blue and Jim Abbott (!) were standout HS quarterbacks. Dan Marino was a standout HS pitcher, drafted by the Royals.
   14. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM (#4354862)
How did my initial search turn up Jeff Blake but not Dan Marino?
   15. esseff Posted: January 25, 2013 at 11:48 AM (#4354898)
Joe Borchard was a fairly recent Stanford QB who made it to the majors, but as an OF.
   16. just plain joe Posted: January 25, 2013 at 11:49 AM (#4354901)
Don Mattingly was a star quarterback in high school, as well as being the starting point guard on the basketball team.
   17. esseff Posted: January 25, 2013 at 11:53 AM (#4354907)
Also, I find the linked story (aka TFA) a little misleading about the drafting of Kaepernick. Three years passed between the time he pitched for Pittman and the time he was drafted by the Cubs while playing football at Nevada. During those three years he had played little, if any, baseball. The Cubs were just taking a flier on a good athlete with a strong arm in garbage time of the draft.
   18. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: January 25, 2013 at 11:55 AM (#4354910)
A couple recent star Oregon QBs, Akili Smith and Dennis Dixon, were bad minor league outfielders before being bad NFL quarterbacks*.

* - I'm actually unconvinced that Dixon is a bad NFL quarterback. He's no star, but I think he'd be an entirely adequate backup on a team that doesn't insist on a pocket-style QB running a generic West Coast offense.
   19. esseff Posted: January 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM (#4354918)
Tying the thread together at #18, Dixon is currently "playing" Kaepernick in practice on the Ravens' scout team.
   20. DA Baracus Posted: January 25, 2013 at 12:06 PM (#4354924)
I wouldn't count Akili Smith as recent.
   21. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: January 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM (#4354926)
Joe Mauer was the USA Today High School Player of the Year in both football (2000, QB) and baseball (2001, catcher).
   22. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 25, 2013 at 12:12 PM (#4354931)
Yes, there have been lots of athletes who played football and baseball. What Crispix is referencing is an older conversation about how it was odd that so few quarterbacks that played baseball also pitched.
   23. phredbird Posted: January 25, 2013 at 01:30 PM (#4354983)
there are a number of stories going around in new orleans about how violent the 49ers fans are. a writer for the times picayune said that he was threatened continually -- not just ribbed -- by niners fans at a game in SF last year. now you have this story about the 49er fan stabbing a falcons fan.

is this just anecdotal or has the fan demographic in SF gotten a little unruly?
   24. zonk Posted: January 25, 2013 at 02:02 PM (#4355000)
there are a number of stories going around in new orleans about how violent the 49ers fans are. a writer for the times picayune said that he was threatened continually -- not just ribbed -- by niners fans at a game in SF last year. now you have this story about the 49er fan stabbing a falcons fan.

is this just anecdotal or has the fan demographic in SF gotten a little unruly?


Maybe Raider nation is de-gentrifying across the bay?
   25. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: January 25, 2013 at 02:37 PM (#4355021)
The handful of times I saw him play football, I was flabbergasted that he didn't get a scholarship to a FBS school. Kid could play.


Brian Westbrook also went to Villanova. I think he may still hold the all-time all-purpose yards record for all of college football.
   26. Walt Davis Posted: January 25, 2013 at 04:42 PM (#4355112)
That's funny to me because Douglass couldn't throw in the NFL.

Not true exactly. He had a strong arm. He also had the accuracy and touch of Mitch Williams. His legs usually went where they were supposed to so that seemed the better option.

It could be bad memory or I'm confusing him with Vince Evans but my brain says Douglass threw a great spiral -- lovely thing to watch as it sailed 5 feet over the receiver.
   27. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: January 25, 2013 at 05:23 PM (#4355148)
The White Sox recently signed former Arkansas QB Mitch Mustain.


I think Arkansas fans (of whom I'm one) are more than willing to think of him as a former USC benchwarmer, thank you very much. (He transferred after starting -- successfully, I should add -- most of his freshman year, then got crosswise with stupid Houston Nutt.)
   28. DA Baracus Posted: January 25, 2013 at 05:37 PM (#4355150)
Not true exactly.


Strong arm doesn't mean you can pass. Douglass rarely passed and when he did he didn't complete them and when he did complete them he wasn't efficient. He couldn't throw.
   29. I am going to be Frank Posted: January 25, 2013 at 06:07 PM (#4355169)
Clayton Richard was a QB/pitcher at Michigan.
   30. Walt Davis Posted: January 25, 2013 at 08:58 PM (#4355235)
That's exactly what I said. Douglass could THROW, he couldn't PASS ... just like Mitch Williams could THROW but couldn't PITCH.
   31. DA Baracus Posted: January 25, 2013 at 09:19 PM (#4355240)
You are taking my post too seriously.
   32. bobm Posted: January 25, 2013 at 09:33 PM (#4355249)
Http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fandom/post/_/id/10608/remembering-john-elways-summer-of-baseball

"Remembering Elway's summer of baseball"

Thirty years after John Elway played his one and only season of minor league baseball for the Oneonta Yankees in 1982, his manager still recalls the way the future Hall of Fame quarterback would make baserunners pay for challenging his arm. 

Ken Berry, a former Gold Glove outfielder who managed Oneonta that season, remembers one throw in particular. 

“Ball went to the fence in right field, and it was a pretty deep right field, and the guy was trying for a triple,” Berry says. “And [Elway] picked the ball up and turned, took just a short crow hop and threw it all the way in the air right to the third baseman. The ball got there about 20 feet before the guy did. It was the kind of throw you see guys make when they charge the ball, and they’ve got their feet going underneath them, and they really drive off and release it, and it’s on a line and very accurate.

 “Well this, he just picked it up and turned and threw it. So I knew I was looking at something special.” 

   33. Tripon Posted: January 26, 2013 at 12:53 AM (#4355327)
Matthew Stafford was a pitcher and played QB for his high school. Clayton Kershaw was his center.
   34. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: January 26, 2013 at 02:21 AM (#4355340)
Thirty years after John Elway played his one and only season of minor league baseball for the Oneonta Yankees in 1982, his manager still recalls the way the future Hall of Fame quarterback would make baserunners pay for challenging his arm.

8 assists in just 41 games.
   35. Tripon Posted: January 29, 2013 at 01:50 PM (#4357527)
AND.... Ray Lewis outed for PEDS.
   36. Ron J2 Posted: January 29, 2013 at 02:13 PM (#4357557)
my brain says Douglass threw a great spiral -- lovely thing to watch as it sailed 5 feet over the receiver.


As opposed to Joe Kapp. The ugliest passes ever thrown by a QB, but pretty effective for all that.

Actually Y. A. Tittle intentionally threw with a wobble when throwing to R. C. Owens. He'd just throw high to Owens (a former basketball player) and the wobble helped Owens judge the flight of the ball.
   37. Famous Original Joe C Posted: January 29, 2013 at 02:17 PM (#4357562)
Hey did you all hear the Harbaughs are brothers who are both coaching in the Superbowl and also they are brothers?
   38. Ray (RDP) Posted: January 29, 2013 at 02:19 PM (#4357566)
Hey did you all hear the Harbaughs are brothers who are both coaching in the Superbowl and also they are brothers?


Geez, hadn't heard that. I also understand that Ray Lewis is retiring; it's odd that nobody is talking about this stuff.
   39. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 29, 2013 at 02:37 PM (#4357586)
Also, Jerome Bettis is from Detroit!
   40. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: January 29, 2013 at 03:39 PM (#4357661)
I also understand that Ray Lewis is retiring; it's odd that nobody is talking about this stuff


It seems like he is very grateful to a divine being for his success and rehabilitation from his old self. I wish some of the so-called sports networks like ESPN would stop hiding this story and tell the public about it. Also, their shameful practice of ignoring the Kaepernick adoption issue is beneath contempt.
   41. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: January 29, 2013 at 03:41 PM (#4357663)
Vida Blue and Jim Abbott (!) were standout HS quarterbacks


Abbott never had the arm to move on to the NFL.
   42. Ray (RDP) Posted: January 29, 2013 at 03:51 PM (#4357670)
the Kaepernick adoption issue


?
   43. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 29, 2013 at 03:59 PM (#4357680)
They should call it the HAR-BOWL this Sunday, amirite? LOL.
   44. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: January 29, 2013 at 04:04 PM (#4357691)
There are many 49ers fans who would love a moment of contact with quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

But the one with the deepest, yet most tortured connection is Heidi Russo, his biological mother who gave him up for adoption


Weird..to me, it seems like they bring this up every ten seconds, but I probably watch way too much SportsCenter.
   45. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 29, 2013 at 04:13 PM (#4357703)

But the one with the deepest, yet most tortured connection is Heidi Russo, his biological mother who gave him up for adoption


Weird..to me, it seems like they bring this up every ten seconds, but I probably watch way too much SportsCenter.


What does this have to do with Tim Tebow?
   46. SoSH U at work Posted: January 29, 2013 at 04:15 PM (#4357708)
I probably watch way too much SportsCenter.


What is once?

I've largely ignored all Super Bowl conversation over the past 9 days. I like it that way.
   47. zenbitz Posted: January 29, 2013 at 06:42 PM (#4357829)
For all you meta-superbowl needs: Mike Tanier
   48. Tripon Posted: February 03, 2013 at 12:35 PM (#4361114)
Prediction time: SF 28, Baltimore 24
   49. puck Posted: February 03, 2013 at 01:30 PM (#4361158)
For all you meta-superbowl needs: Mike Tanier

Wow, we're up to Puppy Bowl IX.

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