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OT - 2018-19 NBA thread (All-Star Weekend to Twelfth of Never edition)

I estimate only 10-12 Primates care about the NBA, none of whom can be bothered to curate their own thread to avoid detracting from what this site is really about:  Kyler Murray and how the Galactic Empire did nothing wrong.

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   1501. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: April 14, 2019 at 08:48 PM (#5831854)
What did the Pistons expect to happen to Drummond there? I think he regretted the shove right away, but a player who lashes out like that when his team is down 40+ shouldn't be allowed to remain in the game.
   1502. Master of the Horse Posted: April 14, 2019 at 09:05 PM (#5831858)
Drummond -45. So the evening was not a complete loss. That has to be a playoff record
   1503. Master of the Horse Posted: April 14, 2019 at 09:08 PM (#5831859)
Is Giannis stealing gum from the scorers table??
   1504. Master of the Horse Posted: April 14, 2019 at 09:21 PM (#5831863)
Jose Calderon is still playing??
   1505. Master of the Horse Posted: April 14, 2019 at 09:23 PM (#5831864)
Jon Leuer sighting! On Wisconsin!
   1506. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 14, 2019 at 09:36 PM (#5831866)
I wonder what the fourth game's numbers will look like with Game of Thrones looming on the horizon.
   1507. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: April 14, 2019 at 09:51 PM (#5831868)
I mean, one game in is a small sample for sure, but that one game sure made it look like we are heading for a great MIL-GSW finals.
   1508. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: April 14, 2019 at 10:38 PM (#5831873)
The Jazz' defensive scheme just isn't going to work. They're not athletic enough to pull off the Bucks' scheme shading Harden that extreme to make him go right, so they just end up giving straight drives to the basket with either an easy lob or open corner three on every possession.
   1509. Howie Menckel Posted: April 14, 2019 at 10:46 PM (#5831875)
I would think that the NBA could just as easily have tweeted this, given the 26 games vs 101 aspect:


Duke Basketball
‏Verified account @DukeMBB
Apr 12

   1510. spivey Posted: April 14, 2019 at 11:13 PM (#5831878)
I was at the Milwaukee game. I can report from up close: fear the deer.
   1511. spivey Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:03 AM (#5831891)
The Jazz bench was a cozy 4-26 from the field.

Now, I remember well the series a few years back where the Spurs beat Houston, even though Houston rolled the Spurs in game one and the narrative was how can the Spurs score/hang with the Rockets. But I do worry about how they are going to be able to score enough to stay in the series.

Also, Detroit without Blake is a special level of awful. Luke Kennard was probably their best player yesterday.

The end of the OKC/Portland game was fun. OKC just couldn't make a shot to save their life.
   1512. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 15, 2019 at 11:00 AM (#5831947)
Didn't get predictions in pre-start of the playoffs, but I am going GSW/POR and MIL/TOR, with GSW winning the 3 peat in 6 over MIL.

---

Rooting interest goes something like MIL, TOR, POR, GSW....BOS. I actually wouldn't be opposed to HOU making the Finals, though I know I'd hate watching it when it's going on.

---

Since it came up a couple of times:
Kevin Pelton @kpelton 11h11 hours ago

Final Game 1 totals for all games:
- Winning teams shot 97-237 (40.9%) on 3s
- Losing teams shot 58-233 (24.9%) on 3s
- The team that made more 3s won every game
- The team that shot a higher percentage on 3s won every game
   1513. Master of the Horse Posted: April 15, 2019 at 11:54 AM (#5831989)
   1514. JC in DC Posted: April 15, 2019 at 01:21 PM (#5832037)
Anyone have video of the egregious travel y'all referred to on prior page?
   1515. If on a winter's night a baserunner Posted: April 15, 2019 at 01:58 PM (#5832061)
Here you go. There was an overhead replay in the broadcast that made it clear that it was only 3 steps after the gather, and a defensible missed call (even debatably legal, though my read is that the gather clearly came early), but the main angle obscures the gather in a way that made it look egregious, especially live.
   1516. aberg Posted: April 15, 2019 at 02:02 PM (#5832063)
The Jazz' defensive scheme just isn't going to work. They're not athletic enough to pull off the Bucks' scheme shading Harden that extreme to make him go right, so they just end up giving straight drives to the basket with either an easy lob or open corner three on every possession.


I had the same reaction. Capela is so athletic that trying to shade Harden is giving him tons of room to operate rolling to the basket.
   1517. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: April 15, 2019 at 04:27 PM (#5832127)
1489. shout-out to 57i66135; that ####'s working now Posted: April 14, 2019 at 06:00 PM (#5831791)
that was clearly a travel, right?
1490. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 14, 2019 at 06:02 PM (#5831793)
That, sir, is NBA basketball.
1491. Tony S Posted: April 14, 2019 at 06:09 PM (#5831796)
I know traveling hardly ever gets called in the NBA, but that one was SO egregious...why even have the rule on the books?


I wasn't online yesterday, but this had to be Kanter, right?
   1518. NJ in NY (Now with Big Girl!) Posted: April 15, 2019 at 04:43 PM (#5832137)
At most that was 3 steps and the gather looked very close to it being 2 steps. Don't think that's a bad missed call.
   1519. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: April 15, 2019 at 05:19 PM (#5832161)
At most that was 3 steps and the gather looked very close to it being 2 steps. Don't think that's a bad missed call.
kanter started with his back to the rim, 35' feet away from the basket.
he power dribbled into a gather about 30' away from the rim.
then he galloped into a jump stop...which is a travel on its own.
then he took 3 steps...which is also a travel.

he dribbled the ball once. his pivot foot moved 3 times. his non-pivot foot moved 6 times.
6 steps.
1 dribble.

that's a travel.
   1520. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: April 15, 2019 at 05:29 PM (#5832166)
he dribbled the ball once. his pivot foot moved 3 times. his non-pivot foot moved 6 times.
is anyone else just completely unable to use edit posts anymore?
   1521. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 15, 2019 at 05:54 PM (#5832174)
L2M:
Q4 00:13.5 Turnover: Traveling Enes Kanter Thunder CNC Video
Comment: Kanter (POR) gathers the ball with his right foot on the floor and legally takes two steps during his drive to the basket.


Only the main shot and no replays. It really does look like there's no way it's not a travel from that angle.
   1522. Fourth True Outcome Posted: April 15, 2019 at 06:22 PM (#5832180)
I'm with NJ. It's hard to really Zapruder the play from the footage available, but it looks like a pretty bog-standard gather-roughly-even-with-a-step-plus-two-steps that everyone does.
   1523. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 15, 2019 at 08:18 PM (#5832205)
Ben Simmons decided to actually show up tonight.
   1524. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 15, 2019 at 08:27 PM (#5832210)
I LOVE that Boban is first off the bench, and dominating!
   1525. KronicFatigue Posted: April 15, 2019 at 08:49 PM (#5832233)
How different would the game look if they allowed 5 steps compared to the current "2 plus the gathering step"? I feel like it wouldn't be that much different. Dribbling doesn't really impede movement so much as it prevents quick shooting b/c the ball is below the waist. Allowing over two steps kind of defeats the purpose of requiring dribbling, IMO
   1526. SteveF Posted: April 15, 2019 at 08:49 PM (#5832234)
Comment: Kanter (POR) gathers the ball with his right foot on the floor and legally takes two steps during his drive to the basket.

The funniest part was that this call was apparently one of the few the officials got right in the last 2 minutes.
   1527. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:02 PM (#5832236)
Boban is freaking unstoppable.
   1528. PJ Martinez Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:03 PM (#5832237)
Seeing Mutumbo and Iverson delight in Boban's performance is pretty great.

Kurucs and Dinwiddie is also a fun combination.
   1529. Master of the Horse Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:05 PM (#5832238)
Sixers playing well but cannot shake Nets
   1530. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:07 PM (#5832240)
####### refs again.
   1531. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:08 PM (#5832241)
well, at least he got his money's worth from that one.
   1532. Master of the Horse Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:08 PM (#5832242)
Yup the refs threw an elbow in Allen’s face
   1533. spivey Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:09 PM (#5832243)
Oooh, Embiid could get kicked out. Also, the Nets just are not scared of Philly.
   1534. PJ Martinez Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:09 PM (#5832244)
Rough call on the Embiid block of Levert, which looked clean. This crowd is not going to be happy when that subsequent Embiid elbow on Allen is called a flagrant.
   1535. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:11 PM (#5832248)
for most of basketball history, that would have been an and 1.
   1536. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:12 PM (#5832249)
i have to admit, i love these ####### balkans.
   1537. PJ Martinez Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:14 PM (#5832250)
That flagrant on Kurucs seemed like a quasi-makeup call, though admittedly the replay angles were not great.
   1538. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:15 PM (#5832252)
the Nets just are not scared of Philly.
let's go back to what i said before the series started:
regardless of whether embiid goes FULL EMBIID, make no mistake: the sixers are vulnerable. they don't know each other; they haven't played together; since the harris trade, guys have been streaming in and out of the lineup due to various scrapes and bruises. you can't trust a team that has no continuity.

plus, as i've said, brooklyn is more than capable of beating them. BRK can steal a game because of the refs; they can steal a game if embiid gets back spasms or whatever; and they can always outscore the sixers if they get hot from beyond the arc. personally, if i was going to vegas, i'd bet on the nets to win in 6 games.
   1539. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:23 PM (#5832256)
Seeing Mutumbo and Iverson delight in Boban's performance is pretty great.
That was utterly delightful.

Tobias Harris looks lost in this offense. The Dunc'd on Podcasters talked about how he's such a good player, but his skills are redundant on this team. He doesn't get the ball, he isn't a primary option, he doesn't get space. He's just a spot-up shooter for these guys, and he's not hitting any shots.
   1540. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:34 PM (#5832257)
Why can't Simmons play with this sort of aggression all the time?
   1541. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:42 PM (#5832259)
See, this is closer to what I expected out of this series. It's close, but one team is clearly better.
   1542. JC in DC Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:47 PM (#5832261)
I'm glad to see the traveling conversation. That, and the bullshit charge-no-play-on-the-ball defense are my two hobby horses in the NBA. I just watched a Julius Erving highlight film (god, I loved that guy). Not a single travel or near travel on it. Not one. Whatever Kanter did, the problem is the court is too small if guys can take three steps. That's one or two dribbles over half court for many of these guys.
   1543. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:58 PM (#5832265)
The secret sauce is clearly more Boban.
   1544. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: April 15, 2019 at 09:59 PM (#5832266)
The secret sauce is clearly more Boban.
or less teejer...
   1545. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: April 15, 2019 at 10:10 PM (#5832270)
i know why there are so many shitty little white men in the NBA referee pool, but why the hell does the NBPA let it happen? the racial (and national, for that matter) demographics need to be put into balance.

we need more african american referees.
we need more european referees.
we need more african-african referees.
we need more female referees.

you shitty little white men, the quota for you has been filled.
   1546. PJ Martinez Posted: April 15, 2019 at 10:19 PM (#5832271)
Per ESPN: "The 76ers' 51 points in the 3rd quarter matches the most points in a quarter by any team in a playoff game in NBA history."
   1547. spivey Posted: April 15, 2019 at 10:53 PM (#5832278)
Boogie looks pretty hurt. I think that probably makes Golden State better, but I feel bad for him.
   1548. rr: target market for blowhard nonsense Posted: April 15, 2019 at 11:14 PM (#5832284)
you shitty little white men, the quota for you has been filled.


If this reasoning is applied to the thread, then I will be stepping back.
   1549. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: April 15, 2019 at 11:29 PM (#5832287)
If this reasoning is applied to the thread, then I will be stepping back.


On this site, we will also consider not being a libertarian and/or lawyer.
   1550. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: April 15, 2019 at 11:36 PM (#5832288)
Golden State is doing that thing where they appear to be an absolutely perfect basketball team.
   1551. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: April 15, 2019 at 11:43 PM (#5832291)
Boogie looks pretty hurt.
There's a picture going around of Boogie walking to the locker room, an ugly bulge erupting from the front of his thigh (i.e, quad area).

ADDENDUM: Here it is. Owwwwwwww.
   1552. tshipman Posted: April 15, 2019 at 11:53 PM (#5832293)
I know that this is a terrible matchup for the Clippers, and the Ws are at home, but the Warriors look invincible.
   1553. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: April 15, 2019 at 11:57 PM (#5832296)
i haven't seen an apology as exceptional as this:
@NBCSPhilly
Ben Simmons and Embiid can't hold it together when they were asked about Embiid's technical on Jarrett Allen
https://twitter.com/NBCSPhilly/status/1117991107760095232

since matt barnes hit us with:
Violence is never the answer, but sometimes it is. And unfortunately, it happened. I don’t regret it.
   1554. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: April 15, 2019 at 11:58 PM (#5832297)
I know that this is a terrible matchup for the Clippers, and the Ws are at home, but the Warriors look invincible.

i am not a doctor, but i'm gonna recommend amputation.
   1555. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: April 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM (#5832305)
Word is, it's a torn quad for Boogie.
   1556. Laser Man Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:22 AM (#5832309)
Looks like everyone gave up on the Clippers a little early tonight - the game is now tied at 128. Lou Williams has 34 pts and 11 assists.
   1557. Powderhorn™, arrogant local sailing champion Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:29 AM (#5832311)
I know that this is a terrible matchup for the Clippers, and the Ws are at home, but the Warriors look invincible.
Or not.

That was a historic collapse. Well, on to LA.
   1558. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:30 AM (#5832312)
I am so glad I saw the score with 5:30 left and put the game back on. What a freaking comeback. The Warriors blew another 31 lead.
   1559. tshipman Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:30 AM (#5832313)
Kudos to the Clippers for not giving up.
   1560. Laser Man Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:30 AM (#5832314)
And the Clippers even the series with a 135-131 win.
   1561. If on a winter's night a baserunner Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:31 AM (#5832315)
What a comeback. My word.
   1562. Tin Angel Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:31 AM (#5832316)
The Warriors gave up 85 in the second half.
   1563. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:32 AM (#5832317)
Wow. I think it's safe to say nobody saw that coming. Lou Williams, man.
   1564. rr: target market for blowhard nonsense Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:35 AM (#5832318)
It will likely just be a blip, but still...quite a win for the Clippers. I noted that Golden State was not that good on D this year--13th as per Bask Ref.
   1565. rr: target market for blowhard nonsense Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:40 AM (#5832319)
Nobody saw that coming:


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Clippers are playing hard, and kinda well, and there's just nothing they can do. Can we set up a couple of Bucks-Warriors scrimmages for late this week?
   1566. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:40 AM (#5832320)
The Warriors were winning 94-63 midway through the third quarter.

This is an all-timer, right?
   1567. rr: target market for blowhard nonsense Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:47 AM (#5832323)
This is an all-timer, right?


It may be the biggest playoff comeback ever in terms of deficit overcome (don't know) and given that it was an 8 seed on the road against a 1 seed, and a 1 seed that is one of the two or three greatest one-group-of-guys dynasties in NBA history, I would guess that it was the single most unlikely playoff win by any team in the history of the league.
   1568. rr: target market for blowhard nonsense Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:49 AM (#5832324)
As per ESPN, the 31-point comeback is in fact a record.
   1569. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:51 AM (#5832325)
Kerr says Boogie will be out "a while."
   1570. Howie Menckel Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:55 AM (#5832326)
You know the old "respect the game" mantra?

the Warriors, not so much.

and that is not to ignore great credit to the Clippers for fighting like few teams would have for what the Warriors would ultimately hand them. but they needed a willing accomplice - and got one.

would be a class move for the Warriors to refund the astronomical playoff ticket costs they charged tonight for a team that failed to care. losing is tough but acceptable. not giving a #### is a disgrace. will the Warriors acknowledge that? I am not hopeful.

the greatest comebacks in NBA playoff history are confined to beating the favorites who gave a #### about the game but lost anyway.

in other news, get off my lawn.

but sometimes, people really should get off a lawn.
   1571. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 16, 2019 at 02:02 AM (#5832327)
I was at a restaurant with TV screens showing the game. When the game was out of hand, they switched it to the Dodger game. I had no idea what happened until just now. Un. Freaking. Believable.
   1572. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: April 16, 2019 at 07:47 AM (#5832329)
would be a class move for the Warriors to refund the astronomical playoff ticket costs they charged tonight for a team that failed to care. losing is tough but acceptable. not giving a #### is a disgrace. will the Warriors acknowledge that? I am not hopeful.

I am sure they will get right on that, right after sports writers start giving back paychecks for columns they mailed in.

Also, I think your analysis is actually totally off. This wasn't about not giving a shit. It was about hubris. You don't get up 31 points to begin with, if you don't give a ####. They thought they were invincible, and switched into cruise control. Then when things started getting tight, couldn't get back into gear.

Further, one of their issues was Curry getting into foul trouble, mostly contending balls he probably shouldn't have gone after. If anything, that is a sign of giving too much of a shit, and not about not caring enough.

Finally, I think that is really disrespectful of the Clippers, who put in an amazing effort, and an amazing performance, to pull this off.

In other news, I will be along later, to pour gasoline on your lawn, and set it on fire.

   1573. spivey Posted: April 16, 2019 at 08:44 AM (#5832333)
would be a class move for the Warriors to refund the astronomical playoff ticket costs they charged tonight for a team that failed to care. losing is tough but acceptable. not giving a #### is a disgrace. will the Warriors acknowledge that? I am not hopeful.


Good to see your cranky, out of touch sportswriter takes didn't die when you stopped writing about sports.

On a related note, my hourly rate is pretty high, and I'll be billing you for the time spent on your weaksauce posts.
   1574. rr: target market for blowhard nonsense Posted: April 16, 2019 at 09:21 AM (#5832339)
On a related note, my hourly rate is pretty high, and I'll be billing you for the time spent on your weaksauce posts.


Like STIGGLES's "shitty little white guys" thing, I hope this doesn't become thread policy.
   1575. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 16, 2019 at 09:27 AM (#5832341)
for most of basketball history, that would have been an and 1.

And?

Stu Jackson @StuJackson32 12h12 hours ago

The contact @JoelEmbiid makes to Allen’s Head is a Flagrant 1.5. Regular season, Embid May have been ejected on a FFP2 depending on time and score. Contact is unnecessary and borderline excessive. Given #NBAplayoff situation FFP1 is correct call.


I understand the frankness, but think I do philosophically disagree with the idea that there should be a different standard in the playoffs. Context obviously matters, but certain types of calls should always be the same, IMO.
   1576. Howie Menckel Posted: April 16, 2019 at 09:27 AM (#5832342)

"that is a sign of giving too much of a ####, and not about not caring enough."

Curry and the Warriors could stand in the middle of Market Street and shoot somebody and they wouldn’t lose any supporters, okay? It’s like, incredible.

.................

"that is not to ignore great credit to the Clippers for fighting like few teams would have for what the Warriors would ultimately hand them."

and yet we have this:

"I think that is really disrespectful of the Clippers, who put in an amazing effort, and an amazing performance, to pull this off."

..................

The Warriors should win the series anyway, even without Cousins, and the deification process can resume. but you aren't obligated to look at a bowel movement and call it a delicacy. or at least, you shouldn't be.


   1577. jmurph Posted: April 16, 2019 at 09:29 AM (#5832344)
Is somebody defending letting a team come back from 31 down? I don't think so, they're just objecting to your Plaschke impression.
   1578. NJ in NY (Now with Big Girl!) Posted: April 16, 2019 at 09:31 AM (#5832345)
In other news, I will be along later, to pour gasoline on your lawn, and set it on fire.

I laughed.

Three days in...the first round is off to a really fun start.
   1579. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 16, 2019 at 09:34 AM (#5832347)
The Warriors should win the series anyway, even without Cousins, and the deification process can resume. but you aren't obligated to look at a bowel movement and call it a delicacy. or at least, you shouldn't be.

Everyone poops.
   1580. jmurph Posted: April 16, 2019 at 09:36 AM (#5832349)
Three days in...the first round is off to a really fun start.

It's certainly more competitive than a lot of us thought it would be, though I suspect the Sixers and maybe some others than split the opening 2 will still close things out in 5.

I'm kind of worried about the Raptors and their fans, though. If they don't come out and win easily tonight it could get ugly.
   1581. TFTIO is building his own mealworm farm Posted: April 16, 2019 at 09:36 AM (#5832350)
I'm kind of worried about the Raptors and their fans, though. If they don't come out and win easily tonight it could get ugly.

With the Leafs up 2-1, nobody in the GTA even remembers that the Barneys are in the playoffs.
   1582. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: April 16, 2019 at 11:48 AM (#5832399)
There isn't a word of your response, that isn't complete horsecock, Howie.

Curry and the Warriors could stand in the middle of Market Street and shoot somebody and they wouldn’t lose any supporters, okay? It’s like, incredible.

This is bull. The Warriors have already lost a ton of supporters. Obviously they have their actual core of lifelong supporters, that will never leave them, as every team does (except the Miami Marlins). But the bandwagon that started up when the splash brothers began, is already a lot emptier than at its peak.
They lost a ton of supporters when Durant signed (the same way LeBron lost a lot of supporters when he teamed up wit Wade and Bosh in Miami). They lost more when Cousins came on board. And they have bled supporters from general Warriors fatigue, the way that happens to all dynasties.

"that is not to ignore great credit to the Clippers for fighting like few teams would have for what the Warriors would ultimately hand them."

and yet we have this:

"I think that is really disrespectful of the Clippers, who put in an amazing effort, and an amazing performance, to pull this off."

This is just lip service. You can't go on a huge rant that diminishes the Clippers performance and effort, and then say "of course that should not take away..." All you were doing was taking away. Heck, even in that that speck of lip service, you are taking away credit from the Clippers, by saying the Warriors handed it to them.

It's the equivalent of somebody saying: "I don't mean to be offensive (or rude, or whatever), but..." You know what follows is going to be offensive. You can throw out everything before the "but." As a writer, you should really be aware of how these rhetorical devices work.

The Warriors should win the series anyway, even without Cousins, and the deification process can resume. but you aren't obligated to look at a bowel movement and call it a delicacy. or at least, you shouldn't be.

Also nonsense. Nobody said the Warriors were great in that game. Just that your "they don't care" analysis is the turd in the punch bowl here.

And I know it is complete nonsense, because I am rooting for the Clippers. My team has a chance of making the finals in the East (at least theoretically). and it would be great for me if somebody knocked them off. I have no allegiance to the Warriors, I am not rooting for them, I just call them as I see them. But to disagree with your yelling and shaking your fist at the clouds routine, means to automatically be branded as a Warriors fanboy.
   1583. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 16, 2019 at 12:30 PM (#5832417)
I am not here for this sort of back and forth between posters... But I'm kind of here for it. The Lakers were bad enough that I kind of want all the rest of you to suffer as well. Tear each other apart! THE ONLY RULE: THERE ARE NO RULES!
   1584. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: April 16, 2019 at 12:48 PM (#5832429)
I am not here for this sort of back and forth between posters... But I'm kind of here for it.

What did I say about everything that comes before the "but"?

The Lakers were bad enough that I kind of want all the rest of you to suffer as well. Tear each other apart! THE ONLY RULE: THERE ARE NO RULES!

Good... Let the hate flow through you.
   1585. JC in DC Posted: April 16, 2019 at 12:49 PM (#5832431)
Whatever the analysis, GSW lost a game it shouldn't have last night and extended its series with LA by one game, maybe more. They also lost Cousins. That may not be a big loss, but it's a knock on your depth, and given that you just allowed the series to go longer, that doesn't help. I can see the Clips taking one more game and making this a 6 game series. GSW remains the favorites, but they've played a lot of games these past four years, and they've got some guys who could wear down. They should've been more careful with the ball, more clinical, last night then they were. They are prone to getting lax when enjoying a big lead. Kudos to the Clips for hanging tough. And much gratitude as I think the only way GSW loses is if they get worn down and run into a Houston team still playing great D and hitting its shots.
   1586. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: April 16, 2019 at 01:23 PM (#5832449)
I think the biggest impact on GSW is the extra game (at least) to play. There are a lot of miles on the tread, a first world problem being a dynasty, and extra games add to the drag and make the latter rounds harder (more so than it does their less accomplished rivals).

The technicals on Durant ad injury to Cousins don't help either.
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