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OT - August/September 2018 College Football thread

The beginning is the most important part of the work.

Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 04, 2018 at 10:37 AM | 238 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 04, 2018 at 10:40 AM (#5720852)
The Amway Coaches Poll is out, and Alabama sits atop the, ahem, pyramid.
Rk Team (1st)           Pts
 1 Alabama (61)         1621
 2 Clemson (3)          1547
 3 Ohio State (1)       1458
 4 Georgia              1452
 5 Oklahoma             1288
 6 Washington           1245
 7 Wisconsin            1243
 8 Miami (FL)           1091
 9 Penn State           1050
10 Auburn               1004
11 Notre Dame            892
12 Michigan State        870
13 Stanford              768
14 Michigan              752
15 USC                   691
16 TCU                   530
17 Virginia Tech         524
18 Mississippi State     407
19 Florida State         328
20 West Virginia         310
21 Texas                 265
21 Boise State           261
23 Central Florida       259
24 LSU                   254
25 Oklahoma State        168

26 South Carolina        138
27 Florida               135
28 Oregon                105
29 Utah                   81
30 Texas A&M              67
   Northwestern           67
32 Kansas State           35
33 Florida Atlantic       27
34 Boston College         23
   Memphis                23
36 NC State               22
37 Troy                   19
38 Appalachian State      16
39 San Diego State        15
40 Kentucky                8
   Iowa                    8
42 Washington State        7
43 South Florida           6
44 Duke                    5
45 Fresno State            4
46 Louisville              3
47 Houston                 2
   Arizona                 2
49 Northern Illinois       1
   Army                    1
   2. Brian White Posted: August 04, 2018 at 11:00 AM (#5720858)
So, hiring Dan Mullen was a good hire for Florida, even if it wasn't the sexiest hire possible. But, uh, I'd be absolutely shocked if Florida actually manages to be an almost-top-25 level team this year. I'd be happy with a season that has the following things:
1) seven wins
2) a win over Tennessee, even if the win comes by way of Tennessee totally self-destructing (well, come to think of it, that'd actually be a satisfying way to win this one)
3) an entertaining game vs. LSU (mainly because I'm going down for that one), and
4) not being totally blown out by Georgia and FSU
   3. Voodoo Posted: August 04, 2018 at 03:34 PM (#5720966)
Doesn't appear there's going to be much of a chance of a non-Power 5 team making any Playoff noise this year. Boise State at least has a game against a quasi-top 25 team in Oklahoma State, but not much outside that to make any significant movement, while UCF's big non-conference matchup is against North Carolina.
   4. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:13 PM (#5720983)
I was in Las Vegas a few weeks ago and was tickled to see Northwestern quarterback Clayton Thorson on the list of guys you could bet on to win the Heisman, at the very bottom of the list at 250-1. Since everyone else just falls under the "field" bet at 10-1, that means that Thorson has the longest odds of anyone in the nation to win the Heisman. Something to be proud of!
   5. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 04, 2018 at 04:24 PM (#5720985)
So, hiring Dan Mullen was a good hire for Florida, even if it wasn't the sexiest hire possible. But, uh, I'd be absolutely shocked if Florida actually manages to be an almost-top-25 level team this year. I'd be happy with a season that has the following things:
1) seven wins
2) a win over Tennessee, even if the win comes by way of Tennessee totally self-destructing (well, come to think of it, that'd actually be a satisfying way to win this one)
3) an entertaining game vs. LSU (mainly because I'm going down for that one), and
4) not being totally blown out by Georgia and FSU


I'll be at at least one UF game this year. Probably Mizzou or USC.
   6. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 04, 2018 at 07:55 PM (#5721109)
while UCF's big non-conference matchup is against North Carolina.

UNC should at least be respectable this year.

FAU has their shot at OU and OU loves losing to P5 teams when they are carrying the banner for the Big 12 (Houston, BYU, and of course Boise. Hell, they almost lost to a bad Cincy squad when Butch was still coaching there).
   7. RMc Has Bizarre Ideas to Fix Baseball Posted: August 05, 2018 at 10:14 AM (#5721220)
3 Ohio State (1) 1458

Not without a coach.
   8. Brian C Posted: August 05, 2018 at 10:40 AM (#5721224)
So, hiring Dan Mullen was a good hire for Florida, even if it wasn't the sexiest hire possible. But, uh, I'd be absolutely shocked if Florida actually manages to be an almost-top-25 level team this year.

I wouldn't be surprised, to be honest:

1) Beat the three non-conference patsies - 3 wins (should be easy)
2) Beat MSU - 1 win (always harder than it ought to be but still should happen)
3) Go 4-1 against the non-Georgia East teams - 4 wins (doable)
4) Win one against LSU, Georgia or FSU - 1 win (doable)

That's nine wins and a certain ranking. Most likely even 8 wins gets you on the ranking bubble.

Fact of the matter is, with the East being mostly a collection of Christmas-week bowl fodder, winning 8 games at Florida really isn't that hard. Hell, even McElwain did it twice.

   9. Howie Menckel Posted: August 05, 2018 at 12:50 PM (#5721251)
under a President Howie administration, no university would be permitted to schedule a class or conduct a football game before Sept. 1.

summer's too short as it is

yet there are several Division I games on Aug. 25
   10. Brian White Posted: August 05, 2018 at 09:05 PM (#5721458)
Fact of the matter is, with the East being mostly a collection of Christmas-week bowl fodder, winning 8 games at Florida really isn't that hard. Hell, even McElwain did it twice.


I'd rank the games in terms of win probability as:

Lol no: Georgia
Doubtful: FSU, Mississippi State (seriously, they're good)
Toss-ups: LSU, Mizzou, South Carolina
Probable wins: Tennessee, Kentucky, Vandy, Colorado State
Easy wins: Idaho, Charleston So.

Give them 3.5 wins from the probables, 1.5 from the toss-ups, 0.5 from the doubtfuls, and the two gimmes and you get 7.5 wins. Well, given that all three toss-ups are at home, I suppose you could round that up to eight wins. I suppose 8-4 vs. that schedule might fall kinda close to the top 25, if the SEC East doesn't completely embarrass itself in non-divisional games.
   11. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: August 05, 2018 at 11:27 PM (#5721516)
The important thing for Mullen and Florida, I think, is to show something - anything - on offense. Just consistent competence. Throw several more touchdowns than interceptions. Maybe break into the top 60 or so in team offense (I want to say Florida hasn't broken the top 100 since Meyer left, but the NCAA's stat archives now seem to suck). Give recruits some reason to believe that if they sign with UF they won't condemn themselves to four years of sacks and over-thrown passes.

The ingredients are there, especially at the skill positions. It's not too much to ask Mullen - a highly paid professional with a reasonable history as an offensive mind - to develop one of the QBs on the roster into relative competence.

And if Mullen could upset FSU, well, that would be just ducky. I'm getting really freaking tired of losing to those guys.
   12. Meatwad Posted: August 06, 2018 at 02:20 AM (#5721572)
Go Irish. Beat famine.
   13. Zonk is a Doorknob Whisperer Posted: August 06, 2018 at 09:14 AM (#5721602)
I was in Las Vegas a few weeks ago and was tickled to see Northwestern quarterback Clayton Thorson on the list of guys you could bet on to win the Heisman, at the very bottom of the list at 250-1. Since everyone else just falls under the "field" bet at 10-1, that means that Thorson has the longest odds of anyone in the nation to win the Heisman. Something to be proud of!


Heh, with Jackson and the receiving corps gone - but an O line that wasn't very good at pass protection mostly back, this makes sense.

   14. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 06, 2018 at 12:05 PM (#5721715)
The ingredients are there, especially at the skill positions. It's not too much to ask Mullen - a highly paid professional with a reasonable history as an offensive mind - to develop one of the QBs on the roster into relative competence.

I read sentences like this and I am just filled with what feels like a stolen elation that McElwain decided that it was not worth waiting for Will Grier's suspension to pass. I started following college football around the time Meyer's tenure started in UF. It was inconceivable to me at the time that Florida would ever experience a stretch like it has the last 5-6 years. I understand it now that I understand the sport better, but its really remarkable to see how much perception of even a big time program can change when a HOF coach leaves.

I'm pretty excited to see what comes out of the Big 12 this year. Particularly which of TCU/WVU/Texas/? rises to the top to play OU for the championship. I'm very optimistic about WVU's chances but its hard to ignore the voices telling me they will either crap out entirely or screw it up in enough key spots to have to settle for a merely "good" season. I'll be happy if either Grier or Sills can take home a national award (the national trophy case is almost completely empty in Morgantown) or they win 9-10 games but I'd really like to see more (obviously).

I am not buying the Iowa State hype, which is a weird thing to have exist.
   15. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: August 06, 2018 at 12:30 PM (#5721735)
I read sentences like this and I am just filled with what feels like a stolen elation that McElwain decided that it was not worth waiting for Will Grier's suspension to pass. I started following college football around the time Meyer's tenure started in UF. It was inconceivable to me at the time that Florida would ever experience a stretch like it has the last 5-6 years.


It's taken some real effort, let me tell you.
   16. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: August 06, 2018 at 01:31 PM (#5721768)
I started following college football around the time Meyer's tenure started in UF. It was inconceivable to me at the time that Florida would ever experience a stretch like it has the last 5-6 years. I understand it now that I understand the sport better, but its really remarkable to see how much perception of even a big time program can change when a HOF coach leaves.


In my (stupid) brain, I sort of always considered Ohio State, Florida, and Texas were sort of Too Big To Fail at college football in the 21st century. I'm an idiot.
   17. dlf Posted: August 06, 2018 at 01:52 PM (#5721786)
In my (stupid) brain, I sort of always considered Ohio State, Florida, and Texas were sort of Too Big To Fail at college football in the 21st century. I'm an idiot.


As a fan of Alabama during the Mike DuBose, Dennis Franchione & Mike Shula years, I can assure you that there is no such thing as too big to fail.

...

I think I am probably too pessimistic about teams I follow. But I'm concerned about Alabama. The secondary is completely new and the leading edge rusher is injured, so the defense could be the worst of the Saban era - albeit still pretty good. I really enjoyed Tua even before the second half against Georgia and have been concerned about Jalen's ability to read a second receiver and accuracy when he does throw, so I'm hoping the Sophomore wins the battle. But jeez, all Hurts has done is win (and not throw INTs) and I feel for him. He'll be a great coach one day.
   18. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: August 06, 2018 at 02:05 PM (#5721795)
September 1st: Auburn plays their third consecutive game in the Georgia Dome. That's weird, right?

Here's weirder: Auburn has four straight home games after that grueling hour and a half bus ride to Atlanta (although, who's kidding whom, they'll probably fly). Then @Misssippi State (250 miles or so to Starkville), home game, @OleMiss (300! miles to Oxford), home game, @Georgia (175 miles), that vicious trap home game against Liberty, then all the way to Tuscaloosa (150 miles).

I guess that's fairly common over on the east coast, or even Big 10 if, say, you're Purdue and you miss Rutgers and play Maryland and Nebraska at home. Still seems weird to us Westerners that the Tigers' entire road odyssey for the year, combined, covers less distance than the Huskies' one game at UCLA (much less the "neutral" game in Atlanta).


   19. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 06, 2018 at 02:12 PM (#5721800)
In my (stupid) brain, I sort of always considered Ohio State, Florida, and Texas were sort of Too Big To Fail at college football in the 21st century. I'm an idiot.

Eh, O$U might have an argument. Can a HOF coach, go 6-6, and then right back on the horse as a title contender. We'll see what happens if Meyer is fired. Not too many freely available HOF coaches out there and the Big Ten East is a lot more intimidating than it was a couple years ago. I don't even have a single name that jumps to mind right now.

Btw, the one I would add to that list is USC. I remember wondering around 2007 if I would ever see Notre Dame beat USC in my lifetime. Seems pretty silly now.

I really enjoyed Tua even before the second half against Georgia and have been concerned about Jalen's ability to read a second receiver and accuracy when he does throw, so I'm hoping the Sophomore wins the battle. But jeez, all Hurts has done is win (and not throw INTs) and I feel for him. He'll be a great coach one day.

You think Tua will win out?
   20. dlf Posted: August 06, 2018 at 02:28 PM (#5721806)
after that grueling hour and a half bus ride to Atlanta


Clearly you've never tried to drive through Atlanta traffic. My guess is they get stuck on the Connector for at least 90 minutes.

Edit: back when Tim Hudson signed with Atlanta, his agent tried to negotiate use of a private jet to fly home, but the home in Columbus GA was less than 100 miles away from Turner field and would take him less time to drive than get to the nearest corporate field and fly.

You think Tua will win out?


I do. I wouldn't be surprised if Jalen gets the nod for the first couple of series against Loovull, but Tua's incredible gifts will outweigh Saban's desire to never turn the ball over.

One note though is Daboll is much more of a drop back / pocket passer coach than Locksley so Hurts' skill set may be a better fit for the new OC.
   21. I am going to be Frank Posted: August 06, 2018 at 02:52 PM (#5721812)
Michigan has been in the wilderness for quite some time. Harbaugh still quite hasn't brought them out of it.

I'm pretty sure Michigan flies charters to everywhere but East Lansing (they would never play at a MAC school). I believe Columbus and South Bend are marginal when it comes to bus vs. plane.

As a FYI for those who live in the NYC-area - the Meadowlands Racetrack Sportsbook is open and taking bets. .
   22. Every Inge Counts Posted: August 06, 2018 at 07:49 PM (#5721960)
Tua has the starting spot locked up I think. Saban is about the guy who wins the locker room and I think Tua has that locked down.

The offense has a chance to put up big numbers in their sleep. Loaded at the skill positions, good OL, and Tua looks like a special QB.

The defense will have growing pains, but will be very good. Secondary will be raw, but the front 7 will be good.
   23. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:56 AM (#5722121)
Anybody going to venture to any games this fall?

I'm lining up an interesting triple header of sorts. Thur night Tulsa at Houston, Friday ALDS game 1 TBD at Houston, then shuttle up to Dallas for OU v UT on Saturday. It'll be my 2nd RRS. (one of my favs)
Then I'll actually return to Lincoln for the first time since the oh so horrible Callahan era for the Illinois at Nebraska tilt in Nov.
Probably hit the B1G CCG since its here, again.
   24. I am going to be Frank Posted: August 07, 2018 at 09:52 AM (#5722211)
I go to most Rutgers tailgates and then leave when the games start. I will probably go to Michigan-Rutgers
   25. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:29 AM (#5722308)
Nice to see Duke get a few votes. They had a window a few years ago where they made the Chick Fil-A Bowl, and got slaughtered by FSU in the ACC championship game. Miami will probably have a lock on the division for now, but Duke brings back most of their skill players and has a shot at a fringe top-25 season.
   26. dlf Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:33 PM (#5722366)
No idea why, but I keep passing billboards in the Atlanta suburbs that are counting down the number of days until Duke's first football game of the year. They don't mention the opponent or anything else.
   27. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: August 07, 2018 at 01:59 PM (#5722438)
That is weird, I live in Atlanta and have not seen those billboards.

I gotta say, Atlanta sports radio could give two flips about the NBA, and barely cares about the Braves, but they really do shine during college football season.
   28. dlf Posted: August 07, 2018 at 02:55 PM (#5722484)
#27 - I passed one this morning on Hwy 141 in Johns Creek. First one I noticed was on the John Smoltz highway in front of Avalon in Alpharetta. (No idea how Smoltzie got his name on about 2-3 miles of a pretty boring street running in front of a mall way the heck away from either the Ted or WFF.)
   29. Every Inge Counts Posted: August 07, 2018 at 05:52 PM (#5722661)
Anybody going to venture to any games this fall?


Alabama at Arkansas is my away game this year hopefully. Very likely Alabama vs. LSU as well (but since I live in Baton Rouge not really a venture).
   30. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 11, 2018 at 06:22 PM (#5725199)
Not a good look for Maryland right now. Kevin Wilson, who is an actual good coach, was fired for less I think.
   31. there isn't anything to do in buffalo but 57i66135 Posted: August 11, 2018 at 10:23 PM (#5725276)
Not a good look for Maryland right now. Kevin Wilson, who is an actual good coach, was fired for less I think.

if 20% of what i've read is true, people will be going to prison. this seems like the kind of situation that can turn a district attorney into a governor.
   32. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 12, 2018 at 01:02 PM (#5725346)
if 20% of what i've read is true, people will be going to prison.

What happened in that hour between 5 and 6 is gonna be a big deal.

I would like to see more sources confirm the ESPN story before fully forming my opinion here but my opinion does not matter.

To your point, apparently both gubernatorial candidates have weighed in on this.
   33. yo la tengo Posted: August 12, 2018 at 09:27 PM (#5725488)
Holy s---. In addition to the death of a student, we have a whole string of coaches implicated in terrible behavior. The fact that the head coach was an assistant coach under Urban Meyer is not a good look at all for him or for Meyer.
   34. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 12, 2018 at 09:35 PM (#5725491)
I thought Durkin was a Harbaugh guy. Oh, there is a lot of Bowling Green and Florida on the resume. Sheesh, agreed, not a good angle for Meyer.
   35. there isn't anything to do in buffalo but 57i66135 Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:38 PM (#5725754)
Holy s---. In addition to the death of a student, we have a whole string of coaches implicated in terrible behavior. The fact that the head coach was an assistant coach under Urban Meyer is not a good look at all for him or for Meyer.

jordan mcnair's death and his coaches' psychopathy are inseparable. the workout that killed mcnair was specifically designed to punish weaker players so that they would leave the program. those coaches didn't so much as raise an eyebrow when mcnair collapsed because it was their desired goal.


anyway, i'll be surprised if urban meyer gets fired. honestly, i think it's really ####### counterproductive that every time something shitty happens, organizations just fire everyone involved, write a few checks and pretend that the problem was solved, instead of actually reckoning with how and why that shitty thing was able to happen in the first place.
   36. there isn't anything to do in buffalo but 57i66135 Posted: August 15, 2018 at 11:49 AM (#5727165)
In two years with the Terps, Durkin is 10-15. He’s not Joe Paterno; he’s just some loudmouth in a windbreaker. Why are people lining up to defend this guy when he’s accused of such pointless cruelty? The answer is related to how Maryland’s football culture became so toxic in the first place.

...Court’s and Durkin’s alleged behavior shows that these acts of wanton cruelty were in some cases the end, rather than the means. How does force-feeding a football player candy bars help him lose weight? How does working players to exhaustion, or literally to death, “build character,” at least more than it offsets the risk of injury or game-day fatigue? How is it more productive for an athletic trainer to chase a teenager until he collapses rather than treat injuries?

...What the Maryland football coaches and staff did to their players under Durkin’s tenure happens all over the country. In 2015, Illinois fired head coach Tim Beckman for pressuring the medical staff to downplay the severity of his players’ injuries. If Urban Meyer loses his job for covering up assistant Zach Smith’s alleged history of spousal abuse, Ohio State could replace him with one of its coordinators: Kevin Wilson, who resigned from Indiana after mistreating players, or Greg Schiano, whose iron-fisted coaching style lost him the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ locker room. Even if Durkin himself doesn’t coach again, hundreds of men like him will.
link
   37. there isn't anything to do in buffalo but 57i66135 Posted: August 15, 2018 at 11:54 AM (#5727168)
"No one cares if you're tired," Maryland coach DJ Durkin barked at the players before making them go back about 20 yards and retrace their steps, this time in a sprint.

This is Maryland practice under Durkin and his staff. There's "Seven Nation Army" chants from the defense on the sideline during the practice-ending competition session. There's screaming, yelling and hitting. There's the first-year coach's stamp of intensity on a program that's being molded in his vision.
"We're trying to make it as hard as we can," Durkin said.

During spring practice, the Terps held early morning practices to help work around class schedules. But without that factor to worry about this month, Durkin has scheduled practices for the heat of the day.

"The heat makes cowards out of us all. ... We're working on some mental toughness, and that's what we're going to do," Durkin said.
"You've just got to come out here," said Braglio (McDonogh). "It's all a mental thing. You come out here, as hot as it is, you've just got to fight through it, you know what I mean? I'm constantly squirting myself with water. I'm soaked right now. But yeah, it's definitely a mindset. You've got to push through it. We're going to be playing at this time."


a report from practice during durkin's first year at maryland.
   38. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: August 15, 2018 at 12:06 PM (#5727174)
.What the Maryland football coaches and staff did to their players under Durkin’s tenure happens all over the country. In 2015, Illinois fired head coach Tim Beckman for pressuring the medical staff to downplay the severity of his players’ injuries. If Urban Meyer loses his job for covering up assistant Zach Smith’s alleged history of spousal abuse, Ohio State could replace him with one of its coordinators: Kevin Wilson, who resigned from Indiana after mistreating players, or Greg Schiano, whose iron-fisted coaching style lost him the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ locker room. Even if Durkin himself doesn’t coach again, hundreds of men like him will.


This. Football coaching is where tough guy authoritarians build their empires these days.
   39. there isn't anything to do in buffalo but 57i66135 Posted: August 19, 2018 at 12:49 PM (#5729678)
link:
college players are four and a half times more likely to die training for football than actually practicing or playing it.

“These type of workouts don’t develop skill, and they’re not representative of what it takes to play the game,” Anderson says. “We don’t see heatstroke in football games, ever. We don’t see exertional sickling in football games, ever. But we see them in the offseason. If we’re seeing it in our training and not seeing it in the sport, something is wrong with our training.”
No one has to die from running too many gassers. All that’s needed is a cultural overhaul, and safety rules to codify it.

Case in point: Eight years ago, the NCAA began requiring athletes to be screened for sickle cell trait as part of their mandatory preseason physicals. Over the previous decade, 10 college football players had died of exertional sickling during workouts – but since the rule was adopted, only one athlete, University of California lineman Ted Agu, has died of the condition under similar circumstances.
Or take University of Iowa strength Chris Doyle. In early 2011, an offseason workout meant to determine “who wanted to be on the team” and consisting of 100 squats in 17 minutes followed by sled pushes left 13 football players hospitalized with rhabdomyolysis, a stress-induced syndrome that can damage cells and cause kidney damage and failure...

...Three months after the incident, Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz named Doyle his first-ever “most valuable coach of the year.” Today, he’s the highest-paid strength coach in the sport, with a base salary of $725,000.
   40. McCoy Posted: August 19, 2018 at 06:18 PM (#5729919)
I think the way fans, players, and media are approaching the new tackle rules in the NFL is all wrong. Everyone is acting like what the NFL is doing is absurd and wrong. What is absurd and wrong was the way they were forcing players to play before. Rewarding inflicting injury and playing through injury. It is just dumb. At least with the announcers and players the NFL should be able to exert a good amount of control and some control over the media which will help shape what the fans think. The NFL either wants everyone to think player safety is stupid and should be dropped or they are going about this very stupidly.
   41. Tom T Posted: August 20, 2018 at 08:54 AM (#5730076)
The NFL ... wants everyone to think player safety is stupid and should be dropped ... .


Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Well, that AND utter incompetence.

At the Neurotrauma 2018 meeting this past week some members of the former-NFL-cronies running the NCAA-DOD CARE Consortium presented a poster in which (on a small sample size) they observed that having imaging data from before an injury is of value in assessing the extent and persistence of an injury. In 2018. When we published that finding in 2010 and gave a frickin' presentation to Brian Hainline (NCAA) and Col. Dallas Hack (DOD) in October 2014 to emphasize to them that they needed to collect pre-injury data for these exact purposes. But, no, the $35+ million they have spent on the CARE Consortium (and the $30M GE spent on their Head-Health Initiative) weren't wasted...not at all....
   42. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 20, 2018 at 02:28 PM (#5730284)
Poll of record:
Rk Team (1st)           Pts
 1 Alabama (42)         1505
 2 Clemson (18)         1476
 3 Georgia              1350
 4 Wisconsin (1)        1271
 5 Ohio State           1256
 6 Washington           1215
 7 Oklahoma             1173
 8 Miami (FL)           1027
 9 Auburn               1013
10 Penn State           1012
11 Michigan State        877
12 Notre Dame            804
13 Stanford              778
14 Michigan              773
15 USC                   543
16 TCU                   533
17 West Virginia         511
18 Mississippi State     450
19 Florida State         384
20 Virginia Tech         351
21 Central Florida       312
22 Boise State           292
23 Texas                 216
24 Oregon                148
25 LSU                   106

26 South Carolina         96
27 Florida                68
28 Utah                   60
29 Oklahoma State         51
30 Florida Atlantic       38
31 Arizona                28
32 NC State               22
33 Texas A&M              21
34 Boston College         18
35 Northwestern           13
36 Kansas State           10
37 Iowa State              8
38 Houston                 6
39 Memphis                 3
40 Troy                    2
   Iowa                    2
42 Kentucky                1
   Arkansas State          1
   Fresno State            1

I assumed the (1) for Wisconsin was Jon Wilner, because he's the default assumption any time there's an...idiotic...AP vote, but it turns out to have been Bob Asmussen of the Champaign News-Gazette.
   43. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 20, 2018 at 02:46 PM (#5730295)
Edit function weirdness. I initially typed "...idiosyncratic..." and then put parentheses around "syncra," yet it came out that way.
   44. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 21, 2018 at 09:09 AM (#5730582)
Alright, the season is almost here. Time to get my P5 championship predictions on record. It looks like Lance is not going to love at least one of my picks:

ACC:

Clemson division: Clemson. Easy call. NC State should be interesting. Wake, the Ville and BC too. It looks like it will be a deep division but Clemson is basically Bama East these days.

Non-Clemson division: Miami. Would have considered Tech before the attrition.

Champ: Clemson

Big 12:

Big 12(1): TCU. I hate to say it but I think they surprise a lot of people. If the line holds up, the offense should be fine and the defense looks like it could be terrifying.

Big 12 (2): WVU. Homer pick but if Will Grier stays healthy, the offense is going to be elite. And the defense seems to have added enough pieces on the DL and in the secondary to win games in a Big 12 with almost no returning QBs.

Champ: WVU. Because why not.

Big Ten:

East: O$U. It looks like Meyer is going to get suspended, not fired. If he is fired, I pick Michigan. I think Penn State will take a step back losing Barkley, the freak TE and their OC. I don't know much about MSU, I know they were young last year, but its hard to imagine them coming out on top of this dog pile.

West: Wisconsin. This has the potential to be one of the best UW squads in recent history, which is saying something. Even if the Big Ten West is a bit more competitive due to some good coaching hires, Wisconsin wins out.

Champ: Wisconsin.

Pac-12:

North: Washington. I doubt they make it through unscathed because Stanford is going to be pretty good and Browning's arm strength limits the offense some times. But they've got like the fourth best coach in the country and a roster that is getting deeper and more athletic every year. Wouldn't be surprised to see Oregon bounce back, but not this far back.

South: Utah. Sumlin has shown that he is capable of doing a lot with an other guy's players but I don't think he's got the guys on D. USC is starting over at QB, UCLA's roster is in tatters and Herman Edwards is coaching ASU for some reason. Meanwhile, Utah was really young, played some good teams close and has a really great coach. Going out on a limb here but I think it's plausible.

SEC:

East: UGA. There's no explanation needed, right?

West: Bama. Auburn will make it tough, and I think matches up really well against Bama (really good QB vs. rebuilding secondary). But even if Auburn beats Bama, they've still gotta beat UGA too and not blow some random game like they seem to do fairly often. They also play Washington and while that doesn't matter in the conference race, it's just a really rough schedule for Auburn.

Playoff: Clemson, UGA, Wisconsin, Washington

Champ: UGA
   45. Master of the Horse Posted: August 21, 2018 at 11:25 AM (#5730673)
   46. there isn't anything to do in buffalo but 57i66135 Posted: August 21, 2018 at 12:10 PM (#5730715)
East: O$U. It looks like Meyer is going to get suspended, not fired. If he is fired, I pick Michigan. I think Penn State will take a step back losing Barkley, the freak TE and their OC. I don't know much about MSU, I know they were young last year, but its hard to imagine them coming out on top of this dog pile.

barkley is a huge loss, but penn state has two 5 star RB recruits on the depth chart, including a 5'11, 220 lb junior who's averaged 6.7 YPC in his first two years. that position is in good hands.
the freak TE: they have no replacement for gesicki, and they're likely to rely on more 4 WR formations to make up for it (unless someone steps up)
the OC: he was already gone for the fiesta bowl last year, and penn state put up 35 points against a pretty legit washington defense. franklin's 2nd biggest strength (imo) is identifying impressive coaches and putting them in a position to be successful (it's not a coincidence that three of his assistants were poached by alabama and MSU this summer), so losing the OC does not worry me at all.*

other things of note:
penn state graduated (or lost to injury retirement) 8 defensive starters. that's a lot of experience to lose, but the loss is mitigated to an extent by their use of a deep rotation last season and a few years of great recruiting classes.
their offensive line should be legitimately good for the first time in about a decade.
they do not have a kicker (but they do have the best punter in college football).
they also have two starting caliber QBs.

penn state has a pretty intense conference schedule though. ohio state, michigan state, iowa, michigan and wisconsin are the 5 most reliably dangerous teams in the conference, and penn state gets to go through all of them in a 7 week (6 game) gauntlet.


penn state has a very high floor, imo.
taking a step back would mean missing a new year's 6 bowl. i'd put the odds of that happening under 10%.
12-1 (or 11-1) would get them into the final four. i'd put the odds on that around 20%.


*franklin's biggest strength (again, imo) is whatever you want to call this.
   47. there isn't anything to do in buffalo but 57i66135 Posted: August 21, 2018 at 12:53 PM (#5730746)
penn state has a pretty intense conference schedule though. ohio state, michigan state, iowa, michigan and wisconsin are the 5 most reliably dangerous teams in the conference, and penn state gets to go through all of them in a 7 week (6 game) gauntlet.
a few other things to note about that:
4 of those 5 games are at home (michigan being the lone exception)

ohio state may be 4-0 (they play TCU in texas, which is far from a gimme)
michigan state should be 5-0 (their toughest game is v. northwestern at home)
iowa should be 6-1 since their toughest games are against wisconsin and iowa state.
michigan will not be unscathed since they'll have played notre dame, nebraska, wisconsin and michigan state by the time penn state gets them.
wisconsin could be 9-0. their toughest games are against BYU, @iowa, nebraska and @michigan.


if penn state and wisconsin are both 9-0, that game is basically an exhibition. they'll both have divisional tiebreakers that get them into the B1G championship game, and winning that will be the only thing that matters for the final four. penn state has slightly more to lose since they'll be at home, but a 12-1 record with a neutral site win over wisconsin, plus a conference championship should more than make up for the home loss (if it happens).

otoh, if either team is 8-1, that game will be a bloodbath.
   48. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 21, 2018 at 01:33 PM (#5730780)
barkley is a huge loss, but penn state has two 5 star RB recruits on the depth chart, including a 5'11, 220 lb junior who's averaged 6.7 YPC in his first two years. that position is in good hands.
...
the OC: he was already gone for the fiesta bowl last year, and penn state put up 35 points against a pretty legit washington defense. franklin's 2nd biggest strength (imo) is identifying impressive coaches and putting them in a position to be successful (it's not a coincidence that three of his assistants were poached by alabama and MSU this summer), so losing the OC does not worry me at all.*


I'm sure there is talent at both spots in the program. Barkley was pretty close to a unique physical specimen and could catch and had all the character you could want and great instincts. I'll believe Penn State can plug and play after him when I see it and not before.

The OC, Moorehead, absolutely changed the trajectory of the program when he showed up. Franklin definitely has a good track record of hiring assistant coaches. Maybe it's an Okie-lite/Holgoraid situation where the offense can be maintained after the originator moves on but much like Barkley, I'll believe he plugs and plays after Moorehead only after I see it happen.

they also have two starting caliber QBs.

The way they used two QBs last year was pretty interesting and seemed to produce real value. It will be interesting to see how the new OC (who is the new OC?) uses the backup QBs fairly unusual skill set.

ohio state, michigan state, iowa, michigan and wisconsin are the 5 most reliably dangerous teams in the conference, and penn state gets to go through all of them in a 7 week (6 game) gauntlet.

I expect all of those teams to be better than their 2017 versions. Although Iowa at home is a totally different, much less dangerous animal than traveling to Iowa.
   49. there isn't anything to do in buffalo but 57i66135 Posted: August 21, 2018 at 03:56 PM (#5730936)
Barkley was pretty close to a unique physical specimen and could catch and had all the character you could want and great instincts. I'll believe Penn State can plug and play after him when I see it and not before.

going from barkley to anyone is a downgrade, but penn state isn't going from an A+ RB to a D+ RB. they have the top RB recruit from 2016 (again, 6.7 YPC as barkley's backup) and the #3 RB recruit from 2018. there's no reason to assume they'll be ineffective.
The OC, Moorehead, absolutely changed the trajectory of the program when he showed up. Franklin definitely has a good track record of hiring assistant coaches. Maybe it's an Okie-lite/Holgoraid situation where the offense can be maintained after the originator moves on but much like Barkley, I'll believe he plugs and plays after Moorehead only after I see it happen.
fwiw, this is the 4th coach of note that franklin has replaced at penn state. his 3 previous hirings (OC, DC, OL coach) were significant upgrades.
The way they used two QBs last year was pretty interesting and seemed to produce real value. It will be interesting to see how the new OC (who is the new OC?) uses the backup QBs fairly unusual skill set.
ricky rahne. he's been the QB coach for franklin since they were both at vanderbilt. i'm pretty sure they're still using moorehead's system, though.

the biggest problem with penn state's 2 QB package is they didn't trust it to be more than a novelty.
   50. . . . . . . Posted: August 21, 2018 at 04:58 PM (#5731018)
Maybe if PSU could keep its DL from quitting the sport, they’d have a chance to be good this year, but they can’t and don’t.

We’ve all seen this movie before: team has a short period of success before being gutted by the loss of generational players and/or critical coordinators. Fans always talk themselves into the losses not mattering but the losses always do. What people forget is that every superprogram is plugging in 4 and 5 star recruits into key positions and have coordinators that excelled in prior jobs. So to win you need not just 5 stars, but for your 5 star to be better than theirs. And that’s catching lighting in a bottle unless you’re an OSU or Alabama (and even then, the success seems much more permanent than it is, ask Texas about that).
   51. dlf Posted: August 21, 2018 at 05:40 PM (#5731065)
And that’s catching lighting in a bottle unless you’re an OSU or Alabama (and even then, the success seems much more permanent than it is, ask Texas about that).


To quote myself from earlier this thread:

As a fan of Alabama during the Mike DuBose, Dennis Franchione & Mike Shula years, I can assure you that there is no such thing as too big to fail.
   52. there isn't anything to do in buffalo but 57i66135 Posted: August 21, 2018 at 05:56 PM (#5731091)
Maybe if PSU could keep its DL from quitting the sport, they’d have a chance to be good this year, but they can’t and don’t.
heh. i could be wrong, but i think those medical retirements (PSU is up to 5 of them since june; 2 recruits were found to have hypertrophic cardiomyopathy; 1 QB had a shoulder; 2 DEs had degenerative backs/knees) are due to an NCAA rule change that allows schools to free up athletic scholarships without forcing injured players to transfer or pay for the rest of the education.
We’ve all seen this movie before: team has a short period of success before being gutted by the loss of generational players and/or critical coordinators. Fans always talk themselves into the losses not mattering but the losses always do. What people forget is that every superprogram is plugging in 4 and 5 star recruits into key positions and have coordinators that excelled in prior jobs. So to win you need not just 5 stars, but for your 5 star to be better than theirs. And that’s catching lighting in a bottle unless you’re an OSU or Alabama (and even then, the success seems much more permanent than it is, ask Texas about that).

i don't disagree about programs rising and falling with generational players, but i disagree strongly that barkley and moorehead are necessary to PSU's ongoing success. they came to penn state at a time of potential upheaval, but they steadied the program and left behind a much healthier football team in their wake.

as for plugging in 4 and 5 star recruits, i think the key for penn state at this moment is they're replacing graduated starters who were 3 star recruits with current players who were 4 and 5 star recruits. they lost 8 starters on defense, but only one of them had 4 stars when he got here. going by 247's composite ratings, here are some of the exchanges penn state is making (note: some of these guys won't even be starters since they're in position battles with other highly rated recruits):
S: troy apke 87 -> lamont wade 98
LB: jason cabinda 85 -> micah parsons 100
CB: grant haley 86 -> john reid 94
DT: parker cothran 83 -> pj mustipher 96
DE: torrence brown 81 -> shane simmons 98


sure, they may have squeezed every ounce of talent out of former 3 star recruits, but that doesn't mean they'll be incapable of doing the same with newly arriving 4 and 5 star recruits. PSU had a top 5 recruiting class last year, and this year, 12 of their 15 current commits have 4 or 5 stars according to 247. the depth of talent at PSU is only now reaching critical mass. so yeah, losing barkley hurts, but penn state is stacked with talent in a way that will let them thrive even without him.
   53. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2018 at 08:25 PM (#5736655)
Nice of Central Florida to make quick enough work of UConn that I can give my full attention to Northwestern's appalling uniforms.
   54. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2018 at 08:51 PM (#5736671)
Already in love with Rondale Moore.
   55. Meatwad Posted: August 30, 2018 at 11:52 PM (#5736750)
Purdue got hosed on a 3rd and 11 personal foul call.
   56. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 31, 2018 at 12:31 AM (#5736760)
I didn't really have a problem with that call. Blown call of the night was blatant offensive pass interference that went uncalled, resulting in a 40-yard completion that set up Northwestern's third touchdown.
   57. I am going to be Frank Posted: August 31, 2018 at 10:53 AM (#5736887)
The Big Ten schools give four year scholarships now. Players can only lose that if they get kicked off the team for rules violation or for academics. The NCAA has allowed schools for years to continue to pay for athlete's education if they are forced to quit playing due to medical problems. I'm sure some schools are more aggressive with that rule than others, especially with borderline cases. Based on their depth chart, I think PSU just had a bunch of guys get hurt bad enough that they couldn't play any more.
   58. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 31, 2018 at 09:56 PM (#5737197)
Utah State in Sparty territory trailing by six with 8:00 to play.
   59. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 31, 2018 at 10:11 PM (#5737216)
Fighting Chuckie Keetons take a 31-30 lead with 5:05 left. 15-play, 75-yard drive.
   60. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2018 at 10:50 AM (#5737359)
Ole Miss-Tech should be a fun noon game. The wait before your team's first game is excruciating, 3:30 feels like an eternity.
   61. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 12:10 PM (#5737386)
Holy ####, what a catch.

Guns up.
   62. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2018 at 12:17 PM (#5737388)
Vasher is gonna be a national name at some point. 6'6, fast, can make catches like that.

Too bad his team will be lucky to make a bowl.
   63. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: September 01, 2018 at 12:44 PM (#5737392)
I don't get the sense that tackling is really the strength of the Texas Tech defense.
   64. Howie Menckel Posted: September 01, 2018 at 12:46 PM (#5737393)
legal sports betting now in MS, WV, and NJ as well as NV.
but NJ residents (or visitors to state) can't bet on this Rutgers-Texas State barnburner. no gambling on in-state teams, or any games that take place in the state.

then again, one can bet on their smart phone in NJ (exceptions continue) - but not in WV or MS.
   65. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2018 at 01:09 PM (#5737399)
Defense isn't the strength of the Tech defense. Everyone on that side of the ball is a former WR recruits who didn't pan out. When you have that context, the performance isn't so bad. Especially on the Dline.
   66. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: September 01, 2018 at 03:19 PM (#5737417)
Defense isn't the strength of the Tech defense. Everyone on that side of the ball is a former WR recruits who didn't pan out. When you have that context, the performance isn't so bad. Especially on the Dline.


On the plus side, this means Pat Mahomes is used to what he's going to be dealing with in Kansas City this year.
   67. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: September 01, 2018 at 03:54 PM (#5737423)
We're only two possessions in, but Washington already looks pretty overwhelmed.
   68. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 04:51 PM (#5737432)
West Virginia could be in cruise control by now and is instead shooting itself in the dick.
   69. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 04:58 PM (#5737433)
Fades at the goal line are such low-percentage garbage. And the quarterback draw just screamed, "We're out of ideas."
   70. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 05:13 PM (#5737436)
Suddenly Washington sprouts a couple Vasher clones, and we've got a game.
   71. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: September 01, 2018 at 05:50 PM (#5737444)
Oh, college kickers.
   72. Brian C Posted: September 01, 2018 at 06:03 PM (#5737447)
I get the economic rationale for these big opening weekend matchups, but good god do they make for terrible football. There's a good reason that prominent teams schedule week 1 cupcakes when left to their own devices. This Auburn-Washington game is unwatchable.
   73. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 06:05 PM (#5737448)
Jesus ####### Christ.
   74. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2018 at 06:24 PM (#5737456)
West Virginia could be in cruise control by now and is instead shooting itself in the dick.

That's sorta our thing.

Watching Washington do the same and more during the delay made me feel better.
   75. Brian C Posted: September 01, 2018 at 06:30 PM (#5737457)
It starts in an hour but I'm still debating whether or not I'm going to watch the Florida game. I'm curious to see the new team under Mullen, but I also regularly boycott FCS matchups because I think they're embarrassing.

   76. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 06:33 PM (#5737458)
Appalachian State recovers a surprise onside kick and has the ball trailing Penn State 31-24 midway through the fourth.
   77. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 06:37 PM (#5737460)
Tie game with 6:03 left.
   78. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 06:47 PM (#5737463)
Penn State punting from its end zone with three minutes to go...

Fair catch at the PSU 42.
   79. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 06:51 PM (#5737465)
Touchdown Mountaineers. 38-31 with 1:47 left.
   80. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 06:54 PM (#5737466)
Penn State returner takes the kick in the end zone, can't decide what he wants to do, starts, stops, starts, breaks a tackle at the five, then runs it across midfield.
   81. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 06:57 PM (#5737468)
Penn State facing 4th-and-2, the corner bails and gives a huge cushion leading to a little hitch for the first down. So dumb.
   82. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 07:02 PM (#5737470)
Washington's throwing the ball all over the place when it's not ####### around and running for no gain.
   83. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: September 01, 2018 at 07:07 PM (#5737472)
Jake Browning blindly throwing the ball nowhere in a desperate attempt to avoid a sack is pretty much this game in a nutshell.
   84. Brian C Posted: September 01, 2018 at 07:09 PM (#5737474)
App State needed a first down on 3rd-and-4 more than it needed to take a shot downfield. That was a low-percentage play and it really ###### them over. I don't like the decision to attempt the FG, either - seems like the odds to convert the 1st down were much higher than making that kick.
   85. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2018 at 07:11 PM (#5737477)
Agreed on all counts.
   86. Brian C Posted: September 01, 2018 at 07:23 PM (#5737479)
Well, that was a fun game, but when it came down to it, App State wasn't content with a chance to win, they had to get all heroic about it. No patience, either on their last regulation possession or in OT, and it backfired on them.
   87. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: September 01, 2018 at 07:36 PM (#5737481)
It's time someone cut those damn Charleston Southern elitists down to size.
   88. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: September 01, 2018 at 07:44 PM (#5737484)
I promise I won't do UF-CSU play-by-play all night, but a CSU player was just ejected for targeting on the second play of the game. Long off-season of preparation just for that.
   89. Howie Menckel Posted: September 01, 2018 at 07:47 PM (#5737485)
stumbled on a random UNC-Cal game on Fox just now.

UNC trails 24-10, 4 minutes left - and like the NFLers they grew up watching, the staff and players know just what to do: move the ball in 5-yard increments and eat up as much clock as you can while still having the ball.

it makes sense - if you are a TV announcer. A long pass attempt that winds up in an INT is a signal to viewers to move on (I would have). sure, you modestly improve your chances of winning if you, well, you know, score a quick TD. so what?

UNC finally throws a pass longer than 5 yards with about 90 seconds left - 20 yards downfield to inside the 15. wow, pass interference, and that stops the clock. who knew a bolder attempt could be productive? now 1:13 left, so UNC seems to feel comfortable that they have eaten enough clock. so a toss into the end zone is a TD (no offensive pass interference called, sucks for Cal).

of course now UNC - with only 1 timeout left, maybe they hadn't noticed - has to try an onside kick. incredibly it works (though you'd like to have more than 70 seconds to go for a TD from near midfield). even more incredibly, the call is reversed on a shaky claim that UNC threw a block before the ball went 10 yards (sucks for UNC).

next onside kick fails, and the game is over.

I wonder if any football coaches grasp that it's ok to take a risk with 4-5 minutes left - the TV money still gets paid, I promise, if you gamble and lose.
:)
   90. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: September 01, 2018 at 08:04 PM (#5737489)
UNC has a tradition of losing to a decent team from a big conference on opening day. You don't want to #### that up.

EDIT: UNC opening vs a major conference opponent:

Year Opponent        Result
2018 Cal                L
2017 Cal                L
2016 Georgia            L
2013 South Carolina     L
2010 LSU                L
2006 Rutgers            L
2005 Ga Tech            L
2003 Florida St         L
2001 Oklahoma           L
1999 Virginia           L
1997 Indiana            W 


I remembered them losing more openers to South Carolina; funny how the mind plays tricks on you. Carolina also managed to lose two openers to Miami of Ohio, in 1998 and 2002. The Tar Heels are very good at dashing expectations as early as possible.
   91. Howie Menckel Posted: September 01, 2018 at 08:17 PM (#5737492)
Nebraska crowd is JACKED for this impending kickoff against Akron as the Scott Frost era begins. announcers warn of possible storms within 90 minutes or so.

wait, who is this guy on the field? must be the weather guy. teams sent off the field and back to their locker rooms (possible lightning, I guess)

#anticlimax
   92. Brian C Posted: September 01, 2018 at 08:24 PM (#5737496)
I promise I won't do UF-CSU play-by-play all night...

An update at the quarter is appropriate though, right?

I decided to watch after all and, not that I expected everything to be magically fixed on offense in one game, but ... so far I don't really see much progress. Franks still is all over the place and the line still can't consistently open running lanes even against an overmatched opponent.

Oh well. At least I can feel confident that things will improve as the season goes on instead of getting worse.
   93. greenback slays lewks Posted: September 01, 2018 at 08:26 PM (#5737497)
Look, it's a Harbaugh team taking a beating against one of Michigan's putative arch-rivals.
   94. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: September 01, 2018 at 08:32 PM (#5737498)
I decided to watch after all and, not that I expected everything to be magically fixed on offense in one game, but ... so far I don't really see much progress. Franks still is all over the place and the line still can't consistently open running lanes even against an overmatched opponent.


Huh, I was actually thinking they looked a lot better. No penalties (though there's a false start as I write this), everything's moving smoothly, Franks hasn't made any flagrantly stupid decisions and he's generally navigated the pocket well. One big drop (though you probably shouldn't be throwing deep down the seam to R.J. Raymond) and an uncalled PI on a deep ball to Jefferson.

   95. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: September 01, 2018 at 08:34 PM (#5737499)
Though Florida's new punter is wearing #88, and that's not acceptable.
   96. Brian C Posted: September 01, 2018 at 08:38 PM (#5737502)
#94 - at the time I wrote that, Franks was 3-9 and still trying to make throws to covered receivers that wouldn't work against quality competition (e.g., the second TD pass). Things have picked up a bit since.

The no penalties thing is progress, though, I agree.

Damn it, now I have to listen to Cris Collinsworth.

ETA: Collinsworth just told a story about playing with Spurrier as his OC that appears not to be true. I wonder what he meant or if he just was pulling a Brian Williams.

ETAA: OK, I was just being overly literal - Spurrier was his WR coach for a year at UF, not OC.
   97. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: September 01, 2018 at 08:47 PM (#5737508)
If you think about it, this Regents Bank commercial with Tebow is really about the married couple's simmering resentments and sexual frustrations.
   98. . . . . . . Posted: September 01, 2018 at 08:52 PM (#5737511)
Harbaugh better get the team’s #### together because if UM gets waxed a lot of people are going to be salty. Especially given how sloppy they’ve played.

Michigan has been playing running QBs for 15 ####### years and every time they look like they’ve never seen one before. For ##### sake.
   99. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: September 01, 2018 at 08:54 PM (#5737512)
Ha! Jump pass!
   100. . . . . . . Posted: September 01, 2018 at 08:56 PM (#5737513)
This game is worse than AIDS.
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