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Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 01, 2019 at 12:50 PM | 466 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   301. . . . . . . Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:33 PM (#5879271)
Jesus that was terrible. This game is such a cripple fight.
   302. Brian C Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:36 PM (#5879272)
YES!!! Finally a creative play call in the running game!!!!
   303. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:36 PM (#5879273)
Florida State's PAT voodoo hex is still in effect.
   304. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:36 PM (#5879274)
Hammond should have gone down at the one.
   305. Brian C Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:37 PM (#5879275)
Hammond should have gone down at the one.

Yeah but this is something I'll never begrudge a player for.
   306. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:38 PM (#5879276)
Yeah but this is something I'll never begrudge a player for.


Me neither, honestly - it's a really weird and awkward thing for someone to do. But it does keep the game alive.
   307. Brian C Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:39 PM (#5879277)
Oh, definitely. If he'd have gone down, I'd have applauded his football IQ.
   308. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:44 PM (#5879279)
How is this game still happening. Why am I still watching?
   309. Brian C Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:44 PM (#5879280)
It's good to know that last year really was a fluke and that UK's still the same find-a-way-to-lose team that we always knew and loved to beat in random weird ways.
   310. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:45 PM (#5879282)
Congratulations to everyone who went to Vegas and placed a huge bet on "Florida falls behind by double figures, back-up quarterback leads fourth quarter comeback."
   311. Mike A Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:48 PM (#5879284)
FSU's up-tempo offense is working pretty well so far, but it's killing the defense. They're on the field the whole game and it's wearing them out late.

And they're committing dumb penalties - an FSU staple - while lacking the Bowden/Jimbo talent to get away with them.
   312. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:49 PM (#5879285)
I guess Tech-Arizona is worth watching.
   313. Brian C Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:52 PM (#5879286)
Congratulations to everyone who went to Vegas and placed a huge bet on "Florida falls behind by double figures, back-up quarterback leads fourth quarter comeback."

A pretty safe bet against Kentucky, actually.
   314. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:54 PM (#5879287)
Congratulations to everyone who went to Vegas and placed a huge bet on "Florida falls behind by double figures, back-up quarterback leads fourth quarter comeback."


Did you not?
   315. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 14, 2019 at 10:58 PM (#5879288)
At 24-23, Blackmon had an open man on 3rd-and-6 threw the ball in the ground, and then with 1:15 left he has an uncontested touchdown off a double move and overthrows it by five yards.
   316. Brian C Posted: September 14, 2019 at 11:03 PM (#5879289)
I can't believe that Texas/Rice and Portland State/Boise State are being broadcast nationally and FSU/Virginia isn't. I'm not sure this ACCN rollout is working in a way that benefits all parties.
   317. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 14, 2019 at 11:11 PM (#5879290)
I guess Tech-Arizona is worth watching.


WRONG
   318. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 15, 2019 at 12:41 AM (#5879292)
That Iowa St ending was dispicible. Only BC put forth a bigger embarrassment this weekend. That was a deep competition this week.
   319. Brian C Posted: September 15, 2019 at 12:09 PM (#5879336)
Now that the non-conference part of the season is largely (but not entirely) over, here are the records of each conference against out-of-conference Power 5 teams (plus Notre Dame):

American: 4-10
ACC: 2-7 (not counting the non-conference UNC/WF game, because that's dumb)
Big 12: 6-4
Big Ten: 4-4
Conference USA: 0-12
MAC: 0-14
Mountain West: 7-9
Pac-12: 4-3
SEC: 5-4
Sun Belt: 2-7

LOL at the ACC and Sun Belt in a tie. Props to the Mountain West for holding their own.

Obviously these numbers don't mean a whole lot. I'd say that the Pac-12's record is especially misleading, because not included in those numbers are 7 losses outside of the Power 5, by far the most of any other Power 5 conference (SEC is next with 4).

Still, I thought they were interesting, for curiosity's sake if nothing else. I do think they support the notion that conference strength isn't terribly important this year, especially since no Pac-12 teams are likely to contend nationally and no one doubts Clemson even if the ACC looks bad.

Special scorn to the Big Ten this year, which has 5 teams (Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Ohio State, Wisconsin) that do not play any Power 5 opponents out of conference at all. That's pitiful. Illinois, Minnesota, and Wisconsin are all repeat offenders, with Illinois and Wisconsin pulling threepeats. Lame. Yeah, yeah, extra conference game ... still lame.

Pac-12 is runner up with 3 (Utah and both Washingtons). Utah and Washington State are incredibly now both in their 4th straight years without scheduling out-of-conference in the Power 5. This was a thing with Texas Tech when Leach was there, too.

Arkansas is the only other repeat offender this year.
   320. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: September 15, 2019 at 12:21 PM (#5879338)
Special scorn to the Big Ten this year, which has 5 teams (Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Ohio State, Wisconsin) that do not play any Power 5 opponents out of conference at all. That's pitiful. Illinois, Minnesota, and Wisconsin are all repeat offenders, with Illinois and Wisconsin pulling threepeats. Lame. Yeah, yeah, extra conference game ... still lame.

as long as the committee continues to rate non-conference losses below cupcake wins, schools have no incentive to schedule competitive non-conference opponents.
   321. Brian C Posted: September 15, 2019 at 12:31 PM (#5879339)
as long as the committee continues to rate non-conference losses below cupcake wins, schools have no incentive to schedule competitive non-conference opponents.

Also the prevent defense is a good way to protect a small lead and why run aggressive plays when you're already in field goal range?
   322. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 15, 2019 at 12:50 PM (#5879345)
Big 12: 6-4

Soft at the top, strong in the middle, which is what I've come to expect from the Big 12. Technically the best record but the best win is probably...Mississippi State? Maybe NC State? Maybe Houston? Nothing resembling a statement win, that's for sure.

Conference play should be fairly entertaining!

I do think they support the notion that conference strength isn't terribly important this year, especially since no Pac-12 teams are likely to contend nationally and no one doubts Clemson even if the ACC looks bad.

What I think will be interesting is whether UCF can notch a top 25 win in conference. If they have one and Clemson has none, does that help springboard them into the top 8? Top 4? Not to take away from Clemson, but if the schedules are roughly the same it's going to take some elaborate gymnastics to keep out an undefeated UCF with wins over Stanford (blowout), Pitt, Temple (win over MD), Cincy (win over UCLA) and whomever (Memphis?) in the AAC championship game. Of course, UCF has to go undefeated, which is generally pretty hard to do.
   323. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 15, 2019 at 12:53 PM (#5879346)
You stiffed the MAC out of a win over B1G. Emu over Ill.

Can't wait for BC v Rutger this weekend.
   324. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 15, 2019 at 12:54 PM (#5879347)
as long as the committee continues to rate non-conference losses below cupcake wins, schools have no incentive to schedule competitive non-conference opponents.


Don't get this as an excuse for why Illinois, Indiana, and Minnesota don't play other P5 teams. Think that has more to do with making a bowl.

Wisconsin should have at least a decent opponent, they are exactly the kind of not-quite-a-blue-blood program that could get boxed out due to schedule. Especially since the West looks less good than anticipated. It's basically Iowa and a bunch of 6-8 win teams, some with some lousy losses already. Although, I see this year they get UM, MSU (not sure why I'm counting them but whatever) and O$U from the East. Wow, that's quite the pull.
   325. Brian C Posted: September 15, 2019 at 01:04 PM (#5879351)
What I think will be interesting is whether UCF can notch a top 25 win in conference. If they have one and Clemson has none, does that help springboard them into the top 8? Top 4? Not to take away from Clemson, but if the schedules are roughly the same it's going to take some elaborate gymnastics to keep out an undefeated UCF with wins over Stanford (blowout), Pitt, Temple (win over MD), Cincy (win over UCLA) and whomever (Memphis?) in the AAC championship game. Of course, UCF has to go undefeated, which is generally pretty hard to do.

I don't see why it would take elaborate gymnastics, to be honest. The committee would just keep them out and that's that. I don't think the UCF lobby is strong enough to produce anything more than some moderate whining about it, because at the end of the day, I don't think anyone really cares all that much about UCF not getting in.
   326. Brian C Posted: September 15, 2019 at 01:05 PM (#5879352)
You stiffed the MAC out of a win over B1G. Emu over Ill.

Damn, you're right. Thanks.
   327. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: September 15, 2019 at 02:21 PM (#5879362)
What I think will be interesting is whether UCF can notch a top 25 win in conference. If they have one and Clemson has none, does that help springboard them into the top 8? Top 4? Not to take away from Clemson, but if the schedules are roughly the same it's going to take some elaborate gymnastics to keep out an undefeated UCF with wins over Stanford (blowout), Pitt, Temple (win over MD), Cincy (win over UCLA) and whomever (Memphis?) in the AAC championship game. Of course, UCF has to go undefeated, which is generally pretty hard to do.
the committee was designed for maximum dorsal flexion, so i'm fairly sure that elaborate gymnastics will not be a problem.
Also the prevent defense is a good way to protect a small lead and why run aggressive plays when you're already in field goal range?

i want to see schools schedule more competitive non-conference matchups, too, but they've all pretty much decided that it's not in their best interest. at the top of the rankings, the risk/reward ratio is set up at 2 parts risk, 1 part reward. when you win, you might gain 2 or 3 spots; if you lose, you drop 5 or 6, and you have, essentially, zero chance at the CFP unless you win out.

near the middle of the pack, schools want to lock in 6-7 wins to make sure they get into a bowl game.
at the bottom of the pack, the only wins arkansas had last year were against eastern illinois (FCS) and tulsa (G5), which means they went 2-2 in a non-conference slate that also included north texas and colorado state.


case in point:
utah (now #11) just swapped places with penn state (now #12) in the coaches poll despite penn state beating P5 pitt, while utah "played" FCS idaho state.
relatedly, boise state (now #20) jumped washington (#21) despite washington beating G5 hawaii, while boise "played" FCS portland state.
   328. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: September 15, 2019 at 02:56 PM (#5879371)
i still think the original sin in all of this is that the CFP does not guarantee a spot for P5 conference champions.


expand the playoff to 8 teams.
5 spots for P5 conference champions
1 spot for the highest ranked G5 conference champion
2 at-large spots
the teams ranked 1-4 are randomly assigned opponents from the teams ranked 5-8.
semi-finals would be bracketed as usual (1v4; 2v3)


as an example, last year could have been:
1 13-0 alabama (SEC) v. 12-1 ohio state (b1g)
4 12-1 oklahoma (big-12) v. 10-3 washington (pac-12)

3 12-0 UND (at-large A) v. 12-0 UCF (G5)
2 13-0 clemson (ACC) v. 11-2 georgia (at-large B)
   329. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: September 15, 2019 at 03:06 PM (#5879373)
Better to realign to a P4 set of conferences with 14 teams each, no out-of-conference opponents, each plays each other team once then each champion goes to the playoff (no divisions or conference championship games)

You'd have to drop 11 teams from the P5. I'd vote Duke, Wake Forest, Louisville, Purdue, Northwestern, Rutgers, Kansas, Iowa State, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Cal.
   330. Brian C Posted: September 15, 2019 at 03:13 PM (#5879375)
You'd have to drop 11 teams from the P5. I'd vote Duke, Wake Forest, Louisville, Purdue, Northwestern, Rutgers, Kansas, Iowa State, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Cal.

This is a non-starter since conferences play in sports other than football.

   331. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: September 15, 2019 at 03:20 PM (#5879378)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
   332. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: September 15, 2019 at 03:32 PM (#5879383)
You'd have to drop 11 teams from the P5. I'd vote Duke, Wake Forest, Louisville, Purdue, Northwestern, Rutgers, Kansas, Iowa State, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Cal.
i'm not entirely sure what your criteria are...but i feel like you're missing stanford, georgia tech, virginia tech and the colorado college of mines.
   333. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 15, 2019 at 04:23 PM (#5879397)
no out-of-conference opponents

#### off. As though college football hasn't been ruined enough to suit playoff proponents.
   334. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: September 15, 2019 at 05:09 PM (#5879410)
We should abandon the playoffs, go back to pure bowl tie-ins, and live with the fact that some years two or three schools will use some criteria or other to call themselves national champions. The fun of college football is the regular season. Anything that takes away from that is Very Bad.
   335. Brian C Posted: September 15, 2019 at 05:30 PM (#5879429)
The fun of college football is the regular season. Anything that takes away from that is Very Bad.

This is why I wish the playoffs only included conference champions. That would make those regular season games everything.

In fact I think a playoff is the wrong way to think about it. They could take a page from "Jeopardy!" and call it the Tournament of Champions.

I hate at-large teams in the playoff. The college football season is too short for the term "best" to have any real meaning. I don't care who the "best" team is or whether or not they get excluded or if inferior teams get in. I just want the fun of winning and losing. IMO that's what college football is all about.
   336. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: September 15, 2019 at 06:21 PM (#5879448)
We should abandon the playoffs, go back to pure bowl tie-ins, and live with the fact that some years two or three schools will use some criteria or other to call themselves national champions. The fun of college football is the regular season. Anything that takes away from that is Very Bad.

what you're longing for isn't the bowl system; it's 8-team conferences.

it seems like the playoff/BCS gets blamed for effects that are more rightly attributed to conference realignment from the early 90s to the mid-2000s (the expansion of the SEC, the collapse of the southwest conference; the formation (and implosion) of the big east; conference expansion).

in 1990, you had 6 major conferences with 8-10 teams each; 26 independent teams; 18 bowl games for 107 teams.
by 2004, you had 5 major conferences with 10-12 teams each; 3 independent teams; 28 bowl games for 120 teams.


the playoff didn't kill bowl season; "the san joaquin county bailbondsmen benevolence association lily of the valley bowl between 3-9 southeastern louisiana commonwealth and 5-7 florida pharmacological" killed bowl season.

the playoffs didn't make the regular season less fun; teams not playing a full conference schedule is what made the regular season less fun.
   337. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 15, 2019 at 07:09 PM (#5879452)
These are no longer conferences, but TV Networks posing as conferences.
   338. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 15, 2019 at 08:50 PM (#5879460)
I don't see why it would take elaborate gymnastics, to be honest. The committee would just keep them out and that's that. I don't think the UCF lobby is strong enough to produce anything more than some moderate whining about it, because at the end of the day, I don't think anyone really cares all that much about UCF not getting in.


I'd care! But yes, I see your point. I'll just sit in my corner and hope that we get Clemson, Bama and a whole lot of 2-loss P5 teams.
   339. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 12:07 PM (#5881513)
The Kyle Trask Show is off to a good start in Gainesville. Crowd is audibly relieved to have a QB that can find open receivers when given time to throw.
   340. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: September 21, 2019 at 12:24 PM (#5881522)
Every Florida running back looks awful this year, even granting the abysmal run blocking.
   341. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: September 21, 2019 at 12:36 PM (#5881524)
Tennessee has spent the last decade or so working very hard to make me feel better about Florida's offense.
   342. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 12:44 PM (#5881525)
Every Florida running back looks awful this year, even granting the abysmal run blocking.

I feel like maybe they're being coached to wait for something to open up instead of just running downhill. Which is bad when the OL is struggling to open running lanes.

I knew it wouldn't take long for Mullen to kill a drive by asking Trask to run.
   343. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: September 21, 2019 at 12:51 PM (#5881526)
I really hope Mullen isn't so committed to this "establish the run/use the QB in the running game" identity that he gets stubborn about it. Use Trask's arm and your receivers, man.
   344. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 12:53 PM (#5881528)
Exactly. What's so galling is that Trask has had open receivers every time he's dropped back. Even his one incompletion was an overthrow under pressure to a wide-open guy.

Like, it's working, man. Milk it.
   345. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:00 PM (#5881530)
I think that was a good overturn of the targeting call. Defender looked to me like he was trying to avoid the killshot and just happened to make contact up around the head.

LOL at how open the Gator receivers are on basically every play.

ETA: except that one, when Mullen inexplicably called a play to take half the field away to help out a D that manifestly can't cover the whole thing.
   346. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:03 PM (#5881531)
Gators should be up 21-0 at this point (maybe 21-7 if we give Tennessee the benefit of the doubt on their own red zone TO). Frustrating to have only 10.
   347. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:14 PM (#5881533)
This is exactly what the Gators offense needed, for Emory Jones to come into the game to hand off a bunch of times to backs who can't do anything.

This is infuriating.
   348. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:15 PM (#5881534)
Pretty sure the UW-UM game is over. 21-0 and Michigan can't get anything done on offense so far. I'm going to have to find something else.
   349. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:16 PM (#5881535)
You can always turn on the Tenn-UF game to watch Dan Mullen call plays as if he promised his bookies that he'd keep the game close.
   350. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:20 PM (#5881537)
Michigan didn't stop the run well against Army. They can't stop it against Wisconsin. They can't stop turning the ball over either. This is a massacre.
   351. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:29 PM (#5881539)
The score overstates things -- two of Wisconsin's touchdown drives included three fourth-down conversions, Michigan fumbled inside the five and had a drive killed by a bad overturn of a completion -- but Michigan is...not good. Lack of gap discipline has been a particular issue.
   352. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:30 PM (#5881540)
Oh, and the offensive line, which basically goes without saying at this point.
   353. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:32 PM (#5881541)
Pretty sure the UW-UM game is over. 21-0 and Michigan can't get anything done on offense so far. I'm going to have to find something else.
the game still seems pretty fun to me.
Michigan didn't stop the run well against Army. They can't stop it against Wisconsin. They can't stop turning the ball over either. This is a massacre.
i get that college football coaches aren't very well-adjusted on the whole, but harbaugh is a complete loon. i can understand why a school would hire him, and why players would choose to play for him, but i wouldn't be so eager to stake my future, or the future of something i care about, on a loon.
   354. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:33 PM (#5881542)
Now that it's 4th-and-goal at the 1, I'd say bring in Jones for that. Run an option or something and just punch it in. Or run a good old-fashioned QB sneak with Trask. But I imagine Mullen will use the timeout to call something ridiculous.
   355. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:35 PM (#5881543)
Touchdown? Need to see replay, not so sure.

ETA: Hard to say. Probably a TD. Call stands.
   356. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:41 PM (#5881545)
I'm going to have to find something else.

Cal-Ole Miss is graduating from secondary game to only game for me.
   357. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:44 PM (#5881546)
FACT: LSU's purple jerseys are awesome and LSU sucks for not wearing them more often.
   358. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 21, 2019 at 01:58 PM (#5881550)
Cal-Ole Miss is graduating from secondary game to only game for me.


Me too. The UF primate commentary is more entertaining than the UF game.
   359. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:08 PM (#5881553)
So Cal can score a bit...when playing Ole Miss.
   360. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:14 PM (#5881554)
   361. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:16 PM (#5881555)
Cal at least doing its part for the cross-conference comparisons after ruining the conference's bigger ambitions.
   362. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:22 PM (#5881556)
I'm hesitant to do the post hoc, ergo propter hoc thing and just say "Kyle Trask is the quarterback, and Florida's offense looks good, therefore it looks good because Trask is the quarterback," but it's really hard not to. I mean, he's being given a ton of time, and he's got receivers running open on just about every play, and I can't say with any confidence that Frank wouldn't be experiencing the same level of success. But the passing game is humming in a way it hasn't since...2008?

We'll see if that continues against LSU and Georgia. Tennessee is really damn bad.
   363. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:23 PM (#5881557)
I'm excited for Kyle Trask. He does have the one fumble but his decision-making has been basically flawless. I know Tennessee has issues, but I don't remember the last time we saw a Gator QB play like this, at least against an FBS opponent. He's just finding open guys, usually deep downfield, on almost every single play.
   364. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:25 PM (#5881558)
I can't say with any confidence that Frank wouldn't be experiencing the same level of success

I can say it with a fairly reasonable level of confidence. We've all seen Franks overlook open receivers time after time.
   365. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:26 PM (#5881559)
Well OK, that time Trask just held on to the ball for way too long.

And then he throws a pick into double coverage. Well, so much for that, bring on Emory Jones.
   366. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:29 PM (#5881561)
Trask's only issues seem to come when he's forced to hold the ball for a while. He wants to get the ball out quickly, but when he can't do that it doesn't seem like he quite knows what to do. It looks like he had options crossing the middle of the field on both the sack and the interception.
   367. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:31 PM (#5881563)
It was just those two plays, though. He's had success bailing out down the middle of the field all game long.
   368. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:33 PM (#5881564)
Time to resume unpacking, morning slate is a dud.
   369. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:37 PM (#5881566)
I'm not really sure why ESPN's "field goal target line" for Florida has been at the Tennessee 45-yard-line all day. McPherson's a good kicker, but I'm pretty sure I don't trust him from 62.
   370. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:40 PM (#5881569)
Haha I was thinking the exact same thing.

Another bad decision by Trask. Wheels coming off a little. Maybe will do him some good in the long run.
   371. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:47 PM (#5881571)
Greenard's been a pretty perfect transfer portal free agent.

Oh, Jacob.
   372. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:49 PM (#5881573)
I think Lamical Perine just broke his first tackle of the year.
   373. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 02:56 PM (#5881582)
Switching focus for a minute ... how hopeless is this Tennessee team? Vols fans just watched the Gators struggle to beat UK last week and now Tennessee isn't even remotely competitive in this game. That the Gators haven't been able to run the ball (until the last drive) is the only evidence they have that UT even bothered to show up in this game at all.

It's one thing to not be very good, but it's another thing to just be pitiful. During GameDay, Kirk Herbstreit mused that this game might be closer than expected because UT would come out playing with an edge to save some pride. That ... hasn't happened.
   374. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: September 21, 2019 at 03:07 PM (#5881592)
Randomly flipping between Guarantano and Maurer is deeply depressing, the sort of thing you did in NCAA Football when you were trying to rebuild a moribund program and you were getting killed in the actual games and didn't know what else to do.

It's easy to blame Pruitt (and Jones and Dooley and Kiffin and...), but UT's bigger long-term issue is that they don't really have a great natural recruiting base, and the rise of programs like Alabama and LSU mean they can't cherry pick outside of the state like they did in the 90's.
   375. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 03:16 PM (#5881599)
It just wouldn't be an SEC-Pac-12 game if the Pac-12 team didn't blow it.
   376. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 03:16 PM (#5881600)
Unless Maurer was hurt, I can't understand for the life of me why Pruitt didn't keep him in there. Once you break the seal and put him in in the first place, you might as well let him get some reps.
   377. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 03:22 PM (#5881604)
So on the penultimate play, Ole Miss probably scored a touchdown -- receiver caught the ball at the goal line coming back toward the field -- but with only 10 seconds left and no timeouts, Ole Miss had to rush to get a play off, leaving little time for the booth to call for a review, and the quarterback sneak was stymied.
   378. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 03:40 PM (#5881612)
Rutgers loses by two TDs to a Boston College team that just got mauled by Kansas.

15 straight losses against Power 5 schools.

gorgeous early fall day, and the stadium was half-empty.

local media calling for a coach firing, ASAP.

looks like a long season in Piscataway.
   379. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: September 21, 2019 at 03:41 PM (#5881613)
maryland lost to temple
michigan state lost to arizona state
michigan tied army
nebraska lost to colorado


the best(?) non-conference wins for the big ten:
penn state over pitt
ohio state over cincinnati
maryland over syracuse
iowa over iowa state


that's just completely ####### worthless.
   380. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 04:06 PM (#5881625)
Alex Hornibrook in for FSU -- looks like a rotation, 'cause the previous drive was a touchdown -- and his first pass is a 44-yard touchdown.
   381. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 04:21 PM (#5881631)
Louisville in perfect position, down 21-0.
   382. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 04:51 PM (#5881642)
UCF's offense has looked completely inept. Offensive line's getting regularly overwhelmed, and then throw in two picks on top of it.
   383. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 05:44 PM (#5881673)
Louisville in perfect position, down 21-0.

Close of the first half included a 16-play, fake-punt-aided touchdown drive bookended by two missed FSU field goals, and now Louisville's in the red zone trailing 21-7. So like I was saying.
   384. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 05:53 PM (#5881682)
Speaking of blowing 21-0 leads, Pitt fumbled deep in its own end while dominating to set up a touchdown, then UCF's offense came alive in the final minute of the half, hitting a deep ball and having two near-misses in the end zone before kicking a field goal. Now an 87-yard drive early in the third keyed by a 65-yard pass. 21-17 with 11:25 left in the third.
   385. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 05:58 PM (#5881687)
Louisville settles for a field goal, then Hornibrook comes in for an injured Blackman and moves FSU right down the field, but a bad snap loses 16 yards, and the lesser Aguayo misses a third field goal.
   386. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:04 PM (#5881692)
UCF returns a punt 87 yards for a 24-21 lead, and Louisville finishes off a drive -- H-back wheel route(!) picked up 48 -- to get within 21-17.

Nice to have a little excitement with A&M's no-show.
   387. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:19 PM (#5881700)
UCF takes a 31-21 lead, then grabs Pickett's facemask, roughs him, and commits taunting after injuring him with a big hit at the end of a scramble on three consecutive plays to usher Pitt down to the eight, then the backup quarterback throws a touchdown pass to get the Panthers right back in it.
   388. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:34 PM (#5881719)
Louisville, leading 24-21 and driving, throws FSU the ball and a lifeline, then completely blows a coverage to give up a 60-yard touchdown and the lead.
   389. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 06:57 PM (#5881729)
The only way it could end:

FSU kicks a field goal from the one to go up 31-24 with 2:30 left, but Louisville gets called for roughing.
   390. Brian C Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:02 PM (#5881731)
I see Kansas is playing WVU tough today too. I know WVU is awful, but ... maybe Les Miles is a pretty decent coach?
   391. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:21 PM (#5881735)
UCF just let 20 seconds run off the clock before calling timeout, leading 34-28 with Pitt facing fourth down inside the five. How are coaches so bad at this?
   392. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:21 PM (#5881736)
damn. pitt just ran the philly special on 4th and 3 with a :59 left in the 4th quarter, pulled it off, is now up 1 on UCF.
   393. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:22 PM (#5881737)
And Pitt breaks out the pass to the quarterback off a reverse to go up by one.
   394. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:28 PM (#5881741)
that's gonna leave a mark:

Patrick Everson
@Covers_Vegas
Speaking of Central Florida, @MikeGrodsky sent out a release Thursday from @WilliamHillUS noting a monster #MajorWager: $166,250 on UCF moneyline -475, to win $35K. @Covers

9:28 AM · Sep 21, 2019
   395. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:33 PM (#5881742)
Welp, nevermind about that UCF playoff run
   396. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:38 PM (#5881743)
I see Kansas is playing WVU tough today too. I know WVU is awful, but ... maybe Les Miles is a pretty decent coach?

Yeah, they look improved. Playing physical, creative playcalling, an absolutely amazing onside kick that only failed because of a really unusual (but correct) penalty.

If WVU gets out of there with a W, I feel like they dodged a bullet. And yeah, no question WVU is bad after today. Gonna be hard to find 3 more wins to get to a bowl. Austin Kendall is way below average for a Big 12 QB.
   397. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: September 21, 2019 at 07:59 PM (#5881750)
my projected top 5:

1: alabamer
2: georger
3: aubern
4: LSUser
5: oklahomer
   398. Meatwad Posted: September 21, 2019 at 08:48 PM (#5881760)
Correct me if Im weong but isnt it a personal foul when you grab a helmet even if its the back of it to help tackle a player?
   399. Meatwad Posted: September 21, 2019 at 08:53 PM (#5881762)
And these announcers are in the bank for uga, seem surprised that ND isnt getting creamed already.
   400. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 21, 2019 at 08:57 PM (#5881764)
Notre Dame has to cash this in.
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