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Saturday, April 21, 2018

OT - Catch-All Pop Culture Extravaganza (April - June 2018)

The following is previously unseen rehearsal footage of Prince & The Revolution from the summer of 1984.

It was in this very room at Flying Cloud Drive Warehouse in Eden Prairie, Minnesota that Prince created and committed to tape one of his most beloved and iconic compositions, which six years later would become a worldwide hit for Sinead O’Connor.

Prince’s original studio version of ‘Nothing Compares 2 U’ is presented here for the first time.

Trial to see if there’s sufficient support to make this a thing.

Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: April 21, 2018 at 02:32 PM | 3812 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   301. Omineca Greg Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:41 PM (#5660144)
Before the Cash "Hurt" video was released, Johnny had couriered copies of it to his children so they could get a sneak peak. One of his daughters (I can't remember which one) watched it, was emotionally crushed, and in a panic phoned her sisters...

"Hey Rosanne, have you watched Dad's video yet?"

"No, I haven't. It's right here though. I can put it on...."

"DON'T WATCH IT!!! DON'T WATCH THE VIDEO! DON'T!!!!"

Oh,

"Without You" Harry Nilsson covering Badfinger.

"Lovers In A Dangerous Time", Barenaked Ladies covering Bruce Cockburn.

"Here, There, And Everywhere" Emmylou Harris covering Beatles

"The Mercy Seat" Johnny Cash covering Nick Cave.

   302. Nasty Nate Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:47 PM (#5660156)
I think the "Hurt" cover is overrated compared to the original, which is much better.
   303. Omineca Greg Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:48 PM (#5660157)
   304. BDC Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:48 PM (#5660158)
"Here, There, And Everywhere" Emmylou Harris covering Beatles

And Emmylou Harris' "Save the Last Dance for Me," covering The Drifters.
   305. McCoy Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:51 PM (#5660164)
No love for Mad World?

I always like Destination Unknown done by the Smashing Pumpkins.
   306. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:56 PM (#5660172)
   307. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:00 PM (#5660178)
Obvious, but if you're going to discuss covers better than the original - someone has to mention Hendrix's All Along the Watchtower.

I've seen Dylan do it in concert - and while he's generally not one for banter - he mentioned something to the effect of an homage to someone correcting a mistake of his.
   308. Greg K Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:03 PM (#5660181)
How about the Headstones' "Tweeter and the Monkey Man"?
   309. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:06 PM (#5660183)
"Lovers In A Dangerous Time", Barenaked Ladies covering Bruce Cockburn.


It's SO much better, and since the video is filmed in my old stomping grounds it's also a blast.
   310. BDC Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:07 PM (#5660184)
Yes, Dylan yields a pretty long list of cover versions better than his own – of course, for that to happen you have to have written a lot of songs worth covering, by a lot of people apiece. He's just one guy and it's hard for him to compete :)

Eric Burdon and the Animals covering "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" and Joan Baez covering "It Ain't Me, Babe" are also notable.
   311. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:14 PM (#5660195)
Whitney Houston's cover of "I Will Always Love You" is probably the most famous/successful cover in history (14 weeks at #1 on Billboard 100, plus it topped the R&B, Adult Contemporary, singles, and airplay charts for double-digit weeks).

It's bombastic and overwrought, but it's an amazing performance.
   312. Rennie's Tenet Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:14 PM (#5660196)
Sitting through 18 hours of opera in six days … and I don't even like Wagner.


I think you get full credit for Siegfried if you see any part of it.

10 Ray Charles tracks that are better than the hit versions:

All I Ever Need Is You (Sonny and Cher)
Bye Bye Love (Everly Brothers)
Don't Let the Sun Catch You Cryin (Gerry and the Pacemakers)
Eleanor Rigby (Beatles)
Living for the City (Stevie Wonder)
Look What They've Done to My Song, Ma (Melanie)
Oh, What a Beautiful Mornin' (Oklahoma cast score)
Still Crazy after All These Years (Paul Simon)
Yesterday (Beatles)
You Don't Know Me (Eddy Arnold or Jerry Vale)
   313. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:17 PM (#5660201)
Eric Burdon and the Animals covering "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" and Joan Baez covering "It Ain't Me, Babe" are also notable.


Jerry Garcia, "Senor (Tales of Yankee Power)"
   314. villageidiom Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:21 PM (#5660207)
I thought the politics thread worked well because there was quicker velocity of posting, so even though I'm not particularly interested in US politics, I was a beneficiary of the increased volume of the thread.
The quicker velocity of posting was indeed one of the reasons the Forums were set up. And it is already working well for the site members who use it.
   315. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:25 PM (#5660211)
I am also interested in popular cover songs that are actually worse than their original versions, such as "Blinded by the Light," "Downtown Train," and seemingly every George Thorogood song.
   316. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:26 PM (#5660215)
Just glancing through stuff on my phone for other covers - some of these just B-sides/one-ofs...

RUN DMC's Walk this Way (if that counts)

New Pornographers covering ELO's Don't Bring me Down

Probably a taste more than anything, but I think Cheap Trick's covers of Magical Mystery Tour and Don't Be Cruel are both fine (though, not eclipsing either original)

Pretenders covering Juice Newton's Just Call me Angel

I think Manfred Man's Blinded by the Light is superior to the Boss's original

Pixies covering Video Killed the Radio Star

A great/weird cover band I still love - Dread Zeppelin (A reggae band with an Elvis impersonator that melds Elvis/Led Zeppelin songs)

Another not better than the original but still great - Dwight Yoakam doing Ring of Fire (His Suspicious Minds, I like, too)

Faith No More has done a couple good - and odd - covers; the Commodores Easy (like Sunday Morning) and I Started a Joke

The Gourds doing Gin and Juice

Stevie Ray Vaughn's Little Wing is killer

   317. BDC Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:28 PM (#5660223)
popular cover songs that are actually worse than their original versions

"Everybody Loves Somebody" was Dean Martin's theme song, and it's pleasant, but I greatly prefer the versions by Frank Sinatra, who recorded it well before Martin did. I think Sinatra had the original record in 1947, though some sources say it was Peggy Lee; her version is not as interesting.
   318. Omineca Greg Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:34 PM (#5660233)
Pretenders covering Juice Newton's Just Call me Angel


I'd never heard that before. I like it, but I like Merilee Rush's original best.
   319. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:34 PM (#5660234)
I am also interested in popular cover songs that are actually worse than their original versions, such as "Blinded by the Light," "Downtown Train," and seemingly every George Thorogood song.


Half of Guns and Roses Spaghetti Incident... though, there are some winners too. Their cover of Nazareth's Hair of the Dog beats the original. And sacrilege - and I'll hang up and wait your grief - I think I actually prefer their version of Human Being to the New York Dolls original.
   320. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:35 PM (#5660235)
I love Joan Jett, but her cover of Everyday People falls flat.
   321. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:38 PM (#5660240)
Half of Guns and Roses Spaghetti Incident...


I mean the ones where the bad cover is more famous than the good original.
   322. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:39 PM (#5660241)
The Gourds doing Gin and Juice


Ben Folds doing \"####### Ain't ####."
   323. Omineca Greg Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:41 PM (#5660248)
This seems like it might be up OminecaG's alley


Deine Schwester ist ausgegangen. Sie ist auf einem Date
Und du sitzt einfach zu Hause und masturbierst
Ihr Telefon wird bald klingeln, aber Sie können nicht warten
Für diesen Anruf
   324. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:43 PM (#5660250)
Covers that were better than the original:

Here's an obscurity I always think of when this question pops up: the Defects, doing Mark James' (via Elvis') "Suspicious Minds."

The last beautiful thing Joey Ramone ever did: his version of Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World."

The Rotary Connection, doing Jimi Hendrix's "The Burning of the Midnight Lamp" (no bonus points for spotting Minnie Riperton's "Lovin' You"-style high notes).

Then there's Dr. Dre's "Bitches Ain't Shit" by Ben Folds, which isn't ironically great, just regular great.

And, it goes without saying, the greatest Led Zeppelin cover ever.


[EDIT: Coke to that bitch Rickey.]
   325. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:46 PM (#5660251)
   326. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:47 PM (#5660254)
I have a whole slew of covers on my other laptop that I think I'm going to scan through tonight...

Back when stealing music was waning in favor of buying it, I went through a phase where I obsessed over finding covers of stuff I liked and Limewired just about everything I had.

Unfortunately, a lot of it ended up being stuff where people just didn't know the artist.

Another one I'm sure everyone will hate (because everyone hates Jimmy Buffet), but I like - I think his cover of Southern Cross is great.
   327. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:50 PM (#5660261)
William Shatner's cover versions when he imagined he was being a serious artiste are ridiculous in the best possible way, even if that wasn't the plan.

William Shatner's cover versions after he started pretending he'd always been in on the joke suck.
   328. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:52 PM (#5660265)
   329. Omineca Greg Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:52 PM (#5660266)
Oh, and to be fair George Thorogood knows he's not the best. He only started his band so he could back up blues singers who were travelling as singles. Earn some money, meet his heroes, you know, it was all good. But then he got popular. What can you do?

RADIO CALL IN SHOW WITH THOROGOOD

Caller: You're the best guitarist I've ever heard!

George: Have you not heard that many guitarists?
   330. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:53 PM (#5660267)
Kid Rock, Dimebag Darrell, and Nickelback's cover of Elton John's "Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting"

I love the Elton John version, but I get why people like the cover version. It was a staple of Hockey Night in Canada broadcasts.


   331. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:55 PM (#5660270)
Not sure it's better, but it's other: Bim Skala Bim's ska cover of "Brain Damage" is delightful.
   332. Omineca Greg Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:55 PM (#5660271)
The quicker velocity of posting was indeed one of the reasons the Forums were set up. And it is already working well for the site members who use it.

So you think this thread is a bad idea? I've only posted here a few years, so I'm not up on the ins and outs of everything.
   333. Greg K Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:56 PM (#5660272)
William Shatner, "Common People" (Pulp)

For a couple weeks I was sleeping on the floor of a friend's basement apartment. His CD player acted as his alarm, so every day William Shatner jarred me awake mid-sentence, reading for that album.
   334. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:58 PM (#5660276)
Heh. Limewire. Ur old.
   335. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:00 PM (#5660277)
Oh, and to be fair George Thorogood knows he's not the best. He only started his band so he could back up blues singers who were travelling as singles. Earn some money, meet his heroes, you know, it was all good. But then he got popular. What can you do?

RADIO CALL IN SHOW WITH THOROGOOD

Caller: You're the best guitarist I've ever heard!

George: Have you not heard that many guitarists?


Thorogood is also a huge baseball fan, FWIW.

I won't defend his catalog any more than he will, but there are few bad artists whose record sales successes I don't begrudge in the least more than him.
   336. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:00 PM (#5660280)
Heh. Limewire. Ur old.


So you're saying erasing napster and going with limewire didn't do the trick?
   337. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:04 PM (#5660284)
BPro interview with Thorogood from a few years ago.

Hell, if there are any masked celebrities that are primates under other names, Thorogood is probably the odds on best bet.
   338. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:11 PM (#5660295)
Heh. Limewire. Ur old.


It's all about the clandestine FTP servers.
   339. Lassus Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:11 PM (#5660296)
There is no song with either "waltzing" or "Matilda" in the title that is superior to Tom Waits' version.
   340. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:12 PM (#5660297)
Since most primates are about my age - and they did have a brief popularity spurt in the early/mid 90s - I'm going to assume familiarity with the aforementioned Dread Zeppelin...

But just in case, I think this is probably the best exemplar...
   341. Lassus Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:14 PM (#5660299)
Did you just throw out "like an oratorio, or Mahler," as the LESS bougie option?!?
I can't. Even.


Your lack of knowledge regarding opera's history or even current practice is not my problem.
   342. Lassus Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:17 PM (#5660306)
   343. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:22 PM (#5660311)
Re: #342--
That can't hope to compare with Little Roger and the Goosebumps.
   344. Lassus Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:22 PM (#5660313)
   345. BDC Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:23 PM (#5660314)
There's a kind of hipster trend in recent opera, exemplified by a composer named David T. Little who looks like somebody you'd see in a coffee shop planning his craft-beer startup. I disliked Little's opera Dog Days, which was recently an avant-garde hit in New York. I really liked his JFK, which was roundly hated by the "bougie" opera community in Ft. Worth and led to the downfall of the managing director of our local opera.

Little is a Princeton PhD, though, so he bridges the hipster and academic music communities.
   346. Lassus Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:26 PM (#5660321)
Who asked for covers worse than the original? I always hated classic cock rock, and when I was in high school I loved this Mission UK cover of "Dream On" that probably sucks.
   347. Baldrick Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:33 PM (#5660331)
I think the "Hurt" cover is overrated compared to the original, which is much better.

I thought I was the only one!
   348. Baldrick Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5660335)
I've learned to live with the fact that Mark Knopfler will never get the respect he deserves.

The original of Romeo and Juliet is one of the maybe five or six truly perfect songs in the history of recorded music. The cover is...fine. And I love the Indigo Girls.
   349. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:42 PM (#5660341)
The original of Romeo and Juliet is one of the maybe five or six truly perfect songs in the history of recorded music. The cover is...fine. And I love the Indigo Girls.


Thank you.

When my species returns and conquers earth, you may rule one of its continents.
   350. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:43 PM (#5660342)
Joan Jett also improved "Crimson and Clover". And the best version of "Doo Wah Diddy" was from John Winger and the boys. Also, +1, above to Mad World (Jules) and Hurt (Cash).

U2 arguably held serve on "Helter Skelter". And some may cry blasphemy, but I'll endorse Melissa Etheridge "Piece of My Heart".

Also, what Baldrick said in 348 (but not 347).
   351. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:45 PM (#5660344)
Not to change media - especially because the answer to cinematic remakes is almost universally "worse" - but I just saw a web ad that Anna Faris is doing a remake of the Kurt Russell/Goldie Hawn "Overboard"?

Whoever had that in the pool of things humanity will never see can now collect his (or her!) winnings.
   352. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:46 PM (#5660345)
Also, what Baldrick said in 348 (but not 347).


You may have 2nd choice of continents.
   353. Baldrick Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:49 PM (#5660346)
Great covers:

Nirvana - Where Did You Sleep Last Night
Patti Smith - My Generation
Aimee Mann and Michael Penn - Reason to Believe
Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You
Townes Van Zandt - Dead Flowers
Lauryn Hill - Can't Take My Eyes Off of You
Willie Nelson - Rainbow Connection
Built to Spill - Cortez the Killer
Some of the early Beatles covers are truly fantastic - Twist and Shout, Rock and Roll Music, You've Really Got a Hold on Me, Anna

A cover that is weirdly popular despite being strictly inferior to the original: Peter Gabriel's version of "Book of Love"
   354. cardsfanboy Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:50 PM (#5660347)
I have to disagree about the Guns and Roses cover being better than Nazereth, the pacing on the GNR just feels wrong, it doesn't convey anything badass like the original did(and I'm a guy who doesn't generally like 70's rock with a few exceptions)


And I think both the NIN and Johnny Cash versions of Hurt are equally as strong.


Someone mentioned Mad World, and there are several good covers of that, which I feel is better than the original. I prefer the Alex Parks version the most, but Gary Jules is also great... Post Modern Jukebox version is enjoyable. (mostly just because I've been on a post modern jukebox kick for the past month--of course all of their songs are covers, so they probably should be eliminated from this list, but my favorite by them was "all about that bass")

Sound of Silence is another song that both versions are great(like Hurt) but I think Disturbed's version is better.

   355. Lassus Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:53 PM (#5660351)
Best operas from a semi-pro singer who can only barely stand opera:

Poulenc - Dialogue of the Carmelites
Mozart - Magic Flute
Rossini - Rigoletto
Richard Wilson - Aethelred the Unready
Davies - Taverner
Handel - Rinaldo
Glass - Akhnaton

   356. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:54 PM (#5660352)
Also, I know you clowns were just kidding around, but Ann Wilson does "Stairway to Heaven" actual justice.
   357. Nasty Nate Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:54 PM (#5660353)

Stevie Ray Vaughn's Little Wing is killer
Yes, this is awesome.
   358. dlf Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:57 PM (#5660354)
but I've learned to live with the fact that Mark Knopfler will never get the respect he deserves.


I have One Take Radio Sessions playing right now. Earlier today, I had his live album with Emmylou and the earlier one with Chet Atkins playing. Just an amazing musician. I love Romeo & Juliet, but don't think it is in his top 10.
   359. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:00 PM (#5660357)
I have to disagree about the Guns and Roses cover being better than Nazereth, the pacing on the GNR just feels wrong, it doesn't convey anything badass like the original did(and I'm a guy who doesn't generally like 70's rock with a few exceptions)


Oddly enough - despite my love of Springsteen (and Greetings from Asbury Park in particular) - that's why I go against the grain and prefer the Manfred Man version of Blinded by the Light.

So far as Hair of the Dog, I suppose my preference is all Axl Rose's yawl -- before he got fat, old, and ridiculous -- dude could really belt out hard rock appropriate screams.

Though, I get what you mean - same album, my preference for GnR's Human Being is equal parts Axl and the more frenetic tempo.
   360. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:04 PM (#5660361)
The Sonics released albums in 1965, 1966, 1967, 1980 and 2015... and the one from 2015 is really good!


To tie this to the covers sub-thread (and this might be an obvious one, but) "Have Love Will Travel" is fantastic, though I don't think I've ever heard the original to compare it to.

That 2015 album was indeed good. I saw them on that tour; it felt at times like I was the youngest person there by 20 years (and I was 39 at the time).
   361. BDC Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:08 PM (#5660365)
Best operas from a semi-pro singer who can only barely stand opera

One of my neighbors teaches vocal music at the university. I saw that he'd directed this year's student opera (the Suor Angelica / Gianni Schicchi double-bill) so I told him how much I liked it. He was happy for the students' sake, but he too said he hates opera, he is only interested in oratorios and lieder.

I will happily admit to liking the several-handkerchief standbys: La Traviata, La Bohème, Madama Butterfly. Mozart is always good too. On the other hand, I have really liked some of the new things that have come through Dallas and Fort Worth in recent years, like Silent Night and (as mentioned) JFK.

My (slightly) more eccentric favorites are Britten (The Turn of the Screw, A Midsummer Night's Dream) and Massenet (Werther, Manon). On a recent road trip I played the aubade "Vive amour" from Massenet's opera Cherubin about 95 times. I get like that with music. I don't want to hear a varied playlist, I want to hear the same thing over and over till I have it memorized.
   362. cardsfanboy Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:10 PM (#5660367)
So far as Hair of the Dog, I suppose my preference is all Axl Rose's yawl -- before he got fat, old, and ridiculous -- dude could really belt out hard rock appropriate screams.


I love GNR, don't get me wrong, and Spaghetti Incident is on my phone so I hear it frequently enough(and since I wasn't really into Punk, I don't know the original to compare on a few of them that I do like---Down on the Farm most notably--- but Black Leather is also well done and Since I Don't have you)

Mind you, Hair of the Dog is probably one of my favorite songs of all time.... As a kid, I would walk around with headphones on, and a mix tape, and if Hair of the Dog came on, and I'm playing you in pinball, video game or bowling, your ass was mine. In my later years, I retroactively imagined at least the opening of it would be my walk up song if I was in the majors. :)
   363. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:13 PM (#5660369)

I have One Take Radio Sessions playing right now. Earlier today, I had his live album with Emmylou and the earlier one with Chet Atkins playing. Just an amazing musician. I love Romeo & Juliet, but don't think it is in his top 10.


Very, very much on the Chet Atkins collaborations - they did quite a few - but they always sound so perfect together.

The late 80s/early 90s record they did together is horrifically overlooked, I think... at least, back in the heyday of CDs, when I was a poor high schooler in the late 80s/early 90s who eschewed the label's CD price gouging and always hit up those "10 for $15" bargain bins - it was one of those "Wow... how the hell did I get this for a buck fifty?"
   364. Lassus Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:14 PM (#5660372)
An excellent cover of Hit me Baby One More Time.
   365. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:14 PM (#5660373)
Mind you, Hair of the Dog is probably one of my favorite songs of all time.... As a kid, I would walk around with headphones on, and a mix tape, and if Hair of the Dog came on, and I'm playing you in pinball, video game or bowling, your ass was mine. In my later years, I retroactively imagined at least the opening of it would be my walk up song if I was in the majors. :)


Nice pick.

That would be a GREAT walk up song.
   366. cardsfanboy Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:21 PM (#5660378)
Speaking of walk up songs. I had a friend that went to a kids little league game, and they actually had a box set up so that the kids could have their own walk up music. I know that some of the traditionalist would hate that, but the kids absolutely loved it. (it also announced their names with a nickname added)
   367. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:25 PM (#5660380)
An excellent cover of Hit me Baby One More Time.


In a similar vein, Local H covered Toxic some time ago.
   368. BDC Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:28 PM (#5660384)
they actually had a box set up so that the kids could have their own walk up music. I know that some of the traditionalist would hate that

I like it better for Little League than for the majors :)
   369. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:34 PM (#5660389)
Stevie Ray Vaughn's Little Wing is killer


Yes, this is awesome.


This is my favorite version from Stevie, it might just be my favorite thing I've ever heard from him and I started collecting SRV bootlegs when DATs were a thing: Stiletto Rain
   370. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:41 PM (#5660395)
And the best version of "Doo Wah Diddy" was from John Winger and the boys.


Sounds like SOMEBODY hasn't heard 2 Live Crew taking full ownership...
   371. Nasty Nate Posted: April 25, 2018 at 06:04 PM (#5660411)
This is my favorite version from Stevie, it might just be my favorite thing I've ever heard from him and I started collecting SRV bootlegs when DATs were a thing: Stiletto Rain
Great stuff. Thanks.

Mike McCready with Pearl Jam did Little Wing into Maggot Brain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhKxLgeNNUs Not as good as SRV doing Little Wing, but he does well on 2 iconic guitar songs.

Speaking of Maggot Brain, here is an awesome version done on violin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APP6-4i_pR4
   372. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 06:12 PM (#5660419)
This is my favorite version from Stevie, it might just be my favorite thing I've ever heard from him and I started collecting SRV bootlegs when DATs were a thing: Stiletto Rain

Great stuff. Thanks.


Ditto.

I always felt like I cursed SRV -- I was 16 when he died and just the year prior, really discovered him.
   373. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 06:40 PM (#5660435)
Rather depressing WaPo article on the chaos that remains with Prince's estate:


CHANHASSEN, Minn. — Near Influence Hallway, past Paisley Park’s platinum album-lined entry, our tour group is led to Prince’s inner sanctum, a two-story atrium painted sky blue with clouds — his take on heaven. A trio of doves flutter in an ornate cage. They don’t cry. They coo.

The late artist’s residence and recording complex sprawls alongside a well-traveled highway, 20 miles from downtown Minneapolis, a sterile white edifice that resembles a suburban office park more than the personal Eden of a superfunkycalifragisexy genius.

Six months after the ardently private superstar died here in April 2016, his sanctuary opened to the public for tours. Paisley Park now features a gift shop, a restaurant (vegetarian, like the artist) and a vast party space, all operated by the overseers of Graceland.

The $100 VIP package offers visitors the opportunity to record their own 30-second vocals of a Prince song (“Raspberry Beret,” “You’ve Got the Look” or “Cream”), play ping-pong on his well-used table and pose for photos in front of his aubergine piano. (Though not with personal cellphones which, as in Prince’s time, are strictly prohibited.)

Our guide stops in the atrium. He lifts his gaze toward the balcony, where a Lucite box containing a miniature replica of Paisley Park is mounted.

Inside that tiny palace, he tells us, rest Prince’s cremains.

“We’ll take a minute of silence,” the guide says, “to understand the gravity of this moment.”


WaPo

Pretty ridiculous that he died without any sort of will ...
   374. Jay Z Posted: April 25, 2018 at 07:59 PM (#5660490)
What's the hot take on the Apu/Azaria Simpsons controversy?

For such a once-beloved show, it is incredibly White. That should be an issue more than Apu. Don't think they would have gone that way were they starting today.
   375. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:04 PM (#5660497)
What's the hot take on the Apu/Azaria Simpsons controversy?


The Problem With Apu is whiny people.
   376. Greg Pope Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:13 PM (#5660505)
George R.R. Martin Says ‘Winds of Winter’ Will Not Be Released in 2018

I guess I have assumed for a while now that he's going to die before releasing A Dream of Spring. But now I'm not sure we're ever getting Winds of Winter either. He's 69 and overweight.
   377. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:23 PM (#5660514)
What's the hot take on the Apu/Azaria Simpsons controversy?

For such a once-beloved show, it is incredibly White. That should be an issue more than Apu. Don't think they would have gone that way were they starting today.


Honestly torn.

To some extent, this is no different than the inevitable progress of culture, society, and in media through the generations. The Simpsons problem is that covers so many years that it fits in multiple contexts.

Not to get all Simpsons scholarly, but I think you have to break Apu into two periods: Pre-squishee lady affair, and post-squishee lady affair. The Simpsons' problem is that they're stuck with the character back-story and faux-accent.
   378. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:24 PM (#5660515)
George R.R. Martin Says ‘Winds of Winter’ Will Not Be Released in 2018


Probably time for people to start accepting that GoT is going to wrap things up for you, not ASOFI.
   379. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:29 PM (#5660521)
The Simpsons' problem is that they're stuck with the character back-story and faux-accent.


Doesn’t he have a PhD in engineering or computer science or something?

I’m lucky, as a Jew I can always relate to an illiterate self-absorbed addict like Krusty the Klown.
   380. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:32 PM (#5660522)
Not to get all Simpsons scholarly, but I think you have to break Apu into two periods: Pre-squishee lady affair, and post-squishee lady affair. The Simpsons' problem is that they're stuck with the character back-story and faux-accent.


I had to look up the squishee lady. Season 13??? Irrelevant.

Doesn’t he have a PhD in engineering or computer science or something?


Yes, he's a genius.
   381. Hysterical & Useless Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:37 PM (#5660526)
I love Chrissie Hynde's version of Dylan's "Forever Young."

Just so you know.
   382. Zonk was SHOCKED by #6! Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:47 PM (#5660534)
I had to look up the squishee lady. Season 13??? Irrelevant.


Doesn’t he have a PhD in engineering or computer science or something?

Yes, he's a genius.


Ahhh... but see - there's an equilibrium.

So you start with the caricature... over-correct to the "yeah, he's a quickie mart clerk - he's got a PHD in computer science!"... and then comfort-level back to "And he has to do his arranged marriage!"... but they fall in love... and have an over-populated family...

The squishee lady made him a real character, both flawed and laudable, in human ways... Not just a whipsawing, comic effect character/stereotyped ideal.
   383. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:54 PM (#5660541)
You keep referring to an episode that I am confident that only idiots or the insane have watched.
   384. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:59 PM (#5660544)
As a scientist I am offended that Professor Frink is shown to be a myopic blundering Jerry Lewis-esque stereotype, and likely voiced by someone who doesn’t even have a PhD.

Now can we address the obvious sexism of a woman voicing BART Simpson?
   385. Rennie's Tenet Posted: April 25, 2018 at 09:33 PM (#5660566)
Best operas from a semi-pro singer who can only barely stand opera:


I don't know if Netflix even has a DVD service anymore, but they used to have at least one version of any opera that got performed at all, and multiple versions of the standards. Sadly, the streaming service has very little opera.

I'll recommend Leos Janacek's "Jenufa," the first opera for which I read a synopsis and said, "Oh, this is sick....I gotta see this."
   386. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Fred Posted: April 25, 2018 at 09:40 PM (#5660576)
Two (1.5?) great covers from Lambchop:

Give me your love

and

Give it, which I guess is a Lambchop original? But includes some of Once in a lifetime at the end. (happy to be set straight on this point!)

Edit: also i've always been partial to Cat Power's version of Satisfaction.
   387. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 09:44 PM (#5660584)
I probably need to listen to the album again, but I do know that I've liked Duran Duran's (some of) Thank You cover album, particularly 'White Lines'
   388. K-BAR, J-BAR (trhn) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 09:57 PM (#5660600)
play ping-pong on his well-used table


Well used by women playing ping pong while waiting for Prince to get that guitar track right.
   389. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 25, 2018 at 10:08 PM (#5660614)
Generally, on covers:

Half the I'm Not There soundtrack, particularly the 4th time around cut.

All of the Mad Dogs and Englishmen soundtrack.

The Bowie covers of Waiting for the Man and White Light.

Aretha Franklin Respect, although the Otis version is pretty rad.

I'm not sure who "wrote" heard it through the grapevine but I'm willing to bet it wasn't Gladys Knight or the California Raisins or CCR.

Someone already listed Jeff Buckley and Grace. Cosigned. Amazing.

None of the shitty Beatles movie soundtrack. What A disappointment. Same with Clapton's Me and Mr. Johnson. Ew.

Edit: oh, Nirvana, Man Who Sold the World.
   390. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: April 25, 2018 at 10:12 PM (#5660621)
I love songs with multiple definitive cover versions. The first one that comes to mind is "I Fought the Law", with the Bobby Fuller Four cover and the Clash cover both being definitive. A lot of people who cover it are obviously covering the Clash cover of the Bobby Fuller cover of the Crickets original.

It's a great song.
   391. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 11:57 PM (#5660729)
I probably haven't watched the Simpsons with any regularity since the late 90s, so I don't really have any memory of any of these episodes, so of course I have no ####### idea what the squishee lady is. Given it has been 29 years or whatever, they are pretty much stuck with it as Zonk notes. Must the C store employees be like the guys from Clerks? Or is it simply the fact that Azaria is the voice? I mean, can't Michael Winslow make a living?

it did make me think about how the discs on these large Bugs Bunny/Looney Tunes sets I have, all begin with Whoopi Goldberg explaining the times/background/ context for all of these characters. Every time, my girls are like 'Blah blah blah, quit talking'
   392. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:13 AM (#5660741)
You keep referring to an episode that I am confident that only idiots or the insane have watched.


ENDUT!

HOCH HECH!
   393. Baldrick Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:29 AM (#5660746)
I love songs with multiple definitive cover versions. The first one that comes to mind is "I Fought the Law", with the Bobby Fuller Four cover and the Clash cover both being definitive. A lot of people who cover it are obviously covering the Clash cover of the Bobby Fuller cover of the Crickets original.

Mike Ness also has a nice cover, though it doesn't really add anything you can't already get from the two big ones.
   394. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 01:12 AM (#5660751)
Another version of "Nothing Compares 2 U" into the mix ...

It is interesting to contemplate the alternate timeline where Andrew Wood did not OD and Pearl Jam never existed ...
   395. Omineca Greg Posted: April 26, 2018 at 01:59 AM (#5660761)
Aretha Franklin Respect, although the Otis version is pretty rad.

Yes, immediately regretted not listing this one. Even Otis thought so..."Damn, she stole my song."

The Bowie covers of Waiting for the Man and White Light.


Not a cover, but Queen ##### is a perfect Velvet Underground song. It's got all the Velvets' defining features. The killer riff with the weird hiccup, all of Lou's lyrical obsessions and themes touched upon. It's like a parody, except it's not trying to be funny. It's kind of embarrassing actually, one of the best Velvet Underground songs was done by somebody else. Oh well, what can you do?

I'll nominate Love Hurts for song with great multiple covers

Everly Brothers: first version. Not as good as it could be.

Roy Orbison, (definitive) Gram/Emmylou (gorgeous), Nazareth (pretty darn good), Cher (terrible) and bonus marks to Jim Capaldi's 1975 Top 10 UK hit. Not exactly good, not exactly bad, more bizarre as all get out. Here, make up your own mind.
   396. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: April 26, 2018 at 04:28 AM (#5660768)
I did like Peter Gabriel's "Heroes" cover, and, on the same album, Randy Newman's "Big Time" gave me a chuckle. Does Merry Clayton's own version of "Gimme Shelter" count as a cover?
   397. PreservedFish Posted: April 26, 2018 at 07:33 AM (#5660775)
Edit: also i've always been partial to Cat Power's version of Satisfaction.


I love Devo's "Satisfaction". You can't ever say that somebody has topped the Stones, but it's very impressive to take on what most people consider unapproachable rock perfection and to make something compelling and unique.
   398. Greg K Posted: April 26, 2018 at 08:16 AM (#5660788)
Now can we address the obvious sexism of a woman voicing BART Simpson?

Are you sure it's not Bort?
   399. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 08:25 AM (#5660791)
No, Bort is my son’s name.
   400. PreservedFish Posted: April 26, 2018 at 08:31 AM (#5660795)
Bart, Cart, Dart, E-art ... nope, can't see any problem with that!
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