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OT - Catch-All Pop Culture Extravaganza (June 2019)

The 2018-19 TV season is history, so here’s [Deadline’s] annual list of summer premiere dates for new series and new seasons of returning shows. It covers hundreds of broadcast, cable and streaming series bowing from mid-May through August in various dayparts.

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   1201. Lassus Posted: June 27, 2019 at 03:47 PM (#5856485)
that guitar figure at the 7-1/2 minute mark

Are you guys all the same people who complained about 3-hour movies? :-D
   1202. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: June 27, 2019 at 03:55 PM (#5856486)
I'd be interested in an instrumental album


Have you listened to any post-rock/metal instrumental bands, such as If These Trees Could Talk, Pelican, Russian Circles?
   1203. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:05 PM (#5856488)
I don't get the desire for Spotify. I want albums.

Having said THAT, I am fully digital.
I don't get this...you realize that Spotify has albums, right? Lots and lots of them. Just about any album you'd ever want to listen to, at least if your tastes are anything like mine. If you're fully digital already, Spotify is basically like having a hard drive with a bizquillion albums on it.
   1204. vortex of dissipation Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:06 PM (#5856489)
Have you listened to any post-rock/metal instrumental bands, such as If These Trees Could Talk, Pelican, Russian Circles?


I liked If These Trees Could Talk's Red Forest album, especially "Barren Lands of a Modern Dinosaur", but I'm not familiar with the other two.
   1205. Davo Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:14 PM (#5856493)
1203- Until Spotify randomly makes them disappear , of course.
   1206. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:25 PM (#5856500)
1203- Until Spotify randomly makes them disappear , of course.


If you love an album so much that Spotify taking it down will cause you grief, then you should just buy the album. I have hundreds of physical albums in the form of CDs and LPs plus another hundred or so in MP3 on various hard drives. In an ideal world, I'd have the money to buy hundreds more and the space to store them. However, I have finite money, and my apartment has limited storage space. Why should I not use Spotify? You're arguing against a strawman.
   1207. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:30 PM (#5856501)
Can someone tell me what Spotify costs per month?
   1208. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:34 PM (#5856503)
They very rarely remove albums altogether, though occasionally they'll replace them. For example, I'm still mad they "updated" Tom Waits' Real Gone to the remastered version. It's still a great service.
   1209. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:36 PM (#5856507)
It's like ten bucks.
   1210. PreservedFish Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:36 PM (#5856508)
I believe I pay $10 per month. There’s a free version if you can tolerate ads.
   1211. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:36 PM (#5856509)
And sometimes they update but don't replace the original. If you want to listen to multiple versions of the same Spacehog song, Spotify is for you.
   1212. Davo Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:39 PM (#5856510)
1206- the point is that IF YOU CARE ABOUT THEM you should purchase physical media rather than leasing it all with fickle digital landlords who will yank it from you with the flimsiest provocation.
   1213. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:41 PM (#5856511)
snapper: You can use Spotify for free, but you will have to listen to ads. It's been some time since I used the free version, but I recall maybe one or two minutes of ads every 25 or 30 minutes. If you listen to albums front to back, then it's damned annoying, but I imagine it's less so if you're mostly listening to playlists. You can pay $10 per month for premium, which includes a variety of features, but first among them is the complete elimination of ads. For $15 per month, you can purchase the premium family plan, which allows you and up to three (I think) others that live in your home. You're all able to have separate accounts, so the playlists are tailored to your listening rather than the listening of everyone in your household. For example, if you listen to punk rock and your wife listens to hip-hop, your personalized playlists will include the Ramones and the Clash and hers will include OutKast and Kanye West and only overlap to the extent your tastes overlap.

Spotify used to run pretty regular promotions where you got something like three months of premium for 99 cents per month, so you can always sign up for premium and cancel after 90 days if it's not your cup of tea.
   1214. Man o' Schwar Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:42 PM (#5856513)
If you are a student, you can get a combined Spotify/Hulu subscription for $4.99 a month. You can't get ad-free Hulu, but the Spotify is ad-free.

Link for those interested.
   1215. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:42 PM (#5856512)
1206- the point is that IF YOU CARE ABOUT THEM you should purchase physical media rather than leasing it all with fickle digital landlords who will yank it from you with the flimsiest provocation.


Did you read my entire post? I purchase albums and books regularly. I'm not a movie buff, but I own most of my favorites in some physical form.
   1216. BrianBrianson Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:48 PM (#5856515)
I won't name names, but someone has an unreasonable degree of trust in physical media.
   1217. Davo Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:51 PM (#5856516)
   1218. Davo Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:52 PM (#5856517)
1215- Good! That’s the point!
   1219. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:54 PM (#5856518)
snapper: You can use Spotify for free, but you will have to listen to ads. It's been some time since I used the free version, but I recall maybe one or two minutes of ads every 25 or 30 minutes. If you listen to albums front to back, then it's damned annoying, but I imagine it's less so if you're mostly listening to playlists. You can pay $10 per month for premium, which includes a variety of features, but first among them is the complete elimination of ads. For $15 per month, you can purchase the premium family plan, which allows you and up to three (I think) others that live in your home. You're all able to have separate accounts, so the playlists are tailored to your listening rather than the listening of everyone in your household. For example, if you listen to punk rock and your wife listens to hip-hop, your personalized playlists will include the Ramones and the Clash and hers will include OutKast and Kanye West and only overlap to the extent your tastes overlap.

Thanks. I'm pretty happy with my radio situation, so I'll probably pass. Music is really not that big a think for me.

I'm also trying to slow the proliferation of streaming services we have. We're already at 4 for movies/TV and about to add a 5th.

It's amazing how much more we spend on entertainment than people did 30 years ago.
   1220. Davo Posted: June 27, 2019 at 04:56 PM (#5856519)
1216- I won’t name names either, but some reactionaries here have an unreasonable degree of trust in for-profit corporations.
   1221. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: June 27, 2019 at 05:04 PM (#5856523)
@LucasGonze
Came back to an old playlist and found it bare like winter.

Almost every time I find a song on my playlist has been removed, it's still on Spotify, just in a remastered form.

If your point is that Spotify is imperfect, well, granted. If your point is that Spotify is evil, fascist capitalism and that anyone who wouldn't rather carry around hundreds of CDs at all times is bad and stupid, well, I'd say your argument is bad and stupid.
   1222. Davo Posted: June 27, 2019 at 05:07 PM (#5856525)
1221- the point
is that
IF YOU CARE ABOUT THEM
you should purchase physical media
rather than leasing it all with fickle digital landlords
who will yank it from you
with the flimsiest
provocation.
   1223. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: June 27, 2019 at 05:14 PM (#5856527)
To be the 100th or so person to state it, one does not preclude the other.
   1224. I Helped Patrick McGoohan Escape Posted: June 27, 2019 at 05:21 PM (#5856530)
1222 - not to wade to deeply into this, but you can also purchase digital media. Over the years I've divested myself of most of what was a pretty large music collection, but digitized it first. And I can still buy new albums to add to the collection.
   1225. BrianBrianson Posted: June 27, 2019 at 05:31 PM (#5856533)
1216- I won’t name names either, but some reactionaries here have an unreasonable degree of trust in for-profit corporations.


As opposed to all those charities and artisans who were making VHS tapes I can rely on forever?
   1226. BrianBrianson Posted: June 27, 2019 at 05:37 PM (#5856534)
It's amazing how much more we spend on entertainment than people did 30 years ago.


Do we?

Okay Bureau of Labor stats say 5.3% of household income went to entertainment in 2017, 6.1% in 1988, 5.3% in 1972, 4.9% in 1960, 5.4% in 1950, 3.6% in 1934, 3.3% in 1917, 2.7% in 1901 ... I'd call that flat since The War.
   1227. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 27, 2019 at 06:27 PM (#5856541)
You can use Spotify for free, but you will have to listen to ads.

Not if you listen through the Chrome web browser with Ad-Block Plus.

Ummm.... or so a friend tells me.
   1228. PreservedFish Posted: June 27, 2019 at 06:36 PM (#5856543)
How about I enjoy the digital media as long as it lasts, and if they yank it away, then I purchase the stuff that I really want?
   1229. PreservedFish Posted: June 27, 2019 at 06:53 PM (#5856545)
I made my kids listen to Earth Wind & Fire this afternoon on the drive back home.
   1230. Hot Wheeling American Posted: June 27, 2019 at 07:24 PM (#5856549)
You’re turning them into slaves to capitalist funk :(
   1231. Omineca Greg Posted: June 27, 2019 at 08:04 PM (#5856556)
I made my kids listen to Earth Wind & Fire this afternoon on the drive back home.


Yep, my children always thank me for having been brought up with a wide range of music. Both of them have asked to have my music collection bequeathed to them when I die.

As a way of showing gratitude (We just wanna give Gratitude, Got plenty love we wanna give to you, With good music and we're tryin' to say) to me, my daughter put me on her Google Play subscription.

So I pay nothing.

I mean, besides the hundreds of thousands of dollars, and thousands and thousands of hours in raising them...besides that, I pay nothing.

I would have done all that anyway though, so the Google Play is a nice little bonus.
   1232. Davo Posted: June 27, 2019 at 08:18 PM (#5856561)
Another round of....

THE MOST-WATCHED MOVIES OF 2019 AMONG THE 239 PEOPLE I FOLLOW ON LETTERBOXD.CO

1.Us
2.High Life
3.High Flying Bird
4.Avengers: Endgame
5.Glass
6.Captain Marvel
7.Booksmart
8.Under the Silver Lake
9.John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum
10.Climax

11.Velvet Buzzsaw
12.Her Smell
13.The Beach Bum
14.Transit
15.Alita: Battle Angel
16.Long Day’s Journey Into Night
17.Fyre
18.Dragged Across Concrete
19.The Image Book
20.The Dead Don’t Die
   1233. Greg Pope Posted: June 27, 2019 at 08:32 PM (#5856563)
anyone who wouldn't rather carry around hundreds of CDs at all times is bad and stupid

I carry around about 500 CD's with me at all times. Figuratively. I buy a CD, then rip it to iTunes, then put it on my phone. If I'm on a plane and feel like listening to Use Your Illusion I and II all the way through, I can do it without having to worry about if I downloaded all the songs to my Spotify app.
   1234. PreservedFish Posted: June 27, 2019 at 09:17 PM (#5856570)
Both of them have asked to have my music collection bequeathed to them when I die.

Before you die, you should conduct a draft. It's the fairest way.
   1235. Lassus Posted: June 27, 2019 at 10:25 PM (#5856592)
As opposed to all those charities and artisans who were making VHS tapes I can rely on forever?

Betamax or GTFO, newbie.
   1236. Davo Posted: June 28, 2019 at 03:27 AM (#5856625)
Oliver Jones’ review of the new Spider-Man movie:

These films keep coming and coming: some shiny, some dark, some with new tech, some merely functional. Look beyond the costume changes, and Spider-Man: Far from Home shows just how streamlined and reliable the process has become. At this point, they are less a product of the Hollywood dream factory than they are of Mr. Ford’s assembly line—no longer things of wonder but models of consistency and met expectations.

If Spider-Man Far from Home is a triumph, as many will argue and its box office will undoubtedly confirm, it is a triumph of capitalism, not art. It is the film’s fervent hope that we, as consumers, are starting to lose our ability to tell the difference.
   1237. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 03:46 AM (#5856626)
   1238. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 04:03 AM (#5856627)
My top 5 musicians that I weep that I never got to see:

Jimi
Stevie
Roy
Miles
John (both B and C, I cheated there).
   1239. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: June 28, 2019 at 04:08 AM (#5856628)
If Spider-Man Far from Home is a triumph, as many will argue and its box office will undoubtedly confirm, it is a triumph of capitalism, not art. It is the film’s fervent hope that we, as consumers, are starting to lose our ability to tell the difference.


"Starting to" lose our ability to tell the difference? Come now. a) I scoff at the idea that this is a new phenomenon, and b) the ability to enjoy something for one reason, but not necessarily for a different reason, does not mean that I can't tell the difference between those two reasons. The Apfelringe I wolfed down after getting back from the gym this morning was not made with the tender love and attention to detail of a Michelin-star restaurant, but it tasted damn good all the same.
   1240. manchestermets Posted: June 28, 2019 at 04:31 AM (#5856629)
I carry around about 500 CD's with me at all times. Figuratively. I buy a CD, then rip it to iTunes, then put it on my phone.


You and me both, brother (well, I don't bother buying the CD, I just buy the digital files) but we don't seem to be able to get this into the skulls of the people who are "PHYSICAL MEDIA OR DEATH" or "STREAMING OR DEATH" that there's a third way.

Anyway, as someone who doesn't buy physical media any more*, there's some physical media I'm definitely going to be buying later this year - the Monty Python's Flying Circus 50th anniversary blu-ray box set, amongst the other good stuff they're throwing out for the anniversary. Here, take all my money.

*Other than console games, as those are purchases that can and will be yanked away from you when the console manufacturers decide to turn off the PSx servers.
   1241. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: June 28, 2019 at 05:17 AM (#5856630)
I carry around about 500 CD's with me at all times. Figuratively. I buy a CD, then rip it to iTunes, then put it on my phone.


Similar, except that I also copy the files to Dropbox and to a portable hard drive (the music automatically copies to my phone using iTunes playlists). This is probably paranoid, silly behaviour, but I'm unlikely to ever lose anything. (Most albums I just stream from Apple Music and then forget about, admittedly.)
   1242. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: June 28, 2019 at 07:58 AM (#5856633)
Vortex, if you liked if these trees could talk you would probably like Russian circles. Pelican is a little more metal but I like them alot
   1243. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: June 28, 2019 at 08:20 AM (#5856635)
My top 5 musicians that I weep that I never got to see:

Jimi
A buddy of mine's parents had their first date at a Monkees show in Charlotte in 1967, with Jimi opening. The date went extremely well, apparently one of these "we only had eyes for each other" evenings. They also only had ears for each other, because it was a decade before either of them became aware that they'd seen Jimi Hendrix play. Or at least that they were in an arena while Jimi Hendrix was playing in the same arena. Ah well.
   1244. Nasty Nate Posted: June 28, 2019 at 08:46 AM (#5856636)
My top 5 musicians that I weep that I never got to see:

Jimi
Stevie
Roy
Who is Roy?

And I hope his absence on the list means you have seen Buddy Guy?
   1245. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: June 28, 2019 at 08:59 AM (#5856637)
Roy Clark! (it's Buchanan)

I saw Buddy Guy once - it was not his best show; happens.
   1246. PreservedFish Posted: June 28, 2019 at 09:26 AM (#5856639)
You and me both, brother (well, I don't bother buying the CD, I just buy the digital files) but we don't seem to be able to get this into the skulls of the people who are "PHYSICAL MEDIA OR DEATH" or "STREAMING OR DEATH" that there's a third way.


Seems to me that Davo is the only person with an uncompromising position in this debate.
   1247. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 28, 2019 at 09:52 AM (#5856643)

Do we?

Okay Bureau of Labor stats say 5.3% of household income went to entertainment in 2017, 6.1% in 1988, 5.3% in 1972, 4.9% in 1960, 5.4% in 1950, 3.6% in 1934, 3.3% in 1917, 2.7% in 1901 ... I'd call that flat since The War.


Are they counting telecommunications as entertainment? Because most smart phone, home internet, tablets, etc. are used 90% for entertainment and 10% for communication.
   1248. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: June 28, 2019 at 10:26 AM (#5856655)
Hell is a 50% infant mortality. "Life is a beautiful and amazing journey, why not buy one of our sandwiches?" is at worst low grade crassness.


I am on holiday in Edinburgh at the moment, and there is a Subway about 30 yards from the statue of Adam Smith.
   1249. Davo Posted: June 28, 2019 at 10:50 AM (#5856659)
1246- “you should purchase physical media because streaming corporations are unreliable” is uncompromising? that’s spicy!
   1250. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 28, 2019 at 10:55 AM (#5856660)
I am on holiday in Edinburgh at the moment

I loved Edinburgh. Has the Edinburgh Tattoo started yet? If so, go. Very cool show.
   1251. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: June 28, 2019 at 11:05 AM (#5856661)
I tried listening to Nirvana's Incesticide on Spotify last night but five of the songs were missing, including all the ones I was looking forward to hearing. They were just grayed out, like on iTunes for the songs you can't download individually, only as part of the album. But I didn't see any sign that you could hear them if you pay extra. I'm already paying for the no-ad version. ?

I also couldn't find more than the most recent album by Lightning Bolt a couple months ago. Then I checked again two weeks ago and they were all there again. ??

I use Spotify probably a couple hours a week and am usually satisfied, but this must happen all the time for people relying on it for albums rather than playlists. They absolutely deemphasize the existence of albums in search results. They want everyone using playlists.
   1252. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: June 28, 2019 at 11:11 AM (#5856663)
Before you die, you should conduct a draft. It's the fairest way.


This got me thinking. If you took a defined population of "greatest" albums, what would your draft strategy be? Assume that it's a desert island-type scenario. If you don't draft an album, then you can't listen to it again. The population could be a list of the 100 greatest albums (I'm sure Rolling Stone put out a garbage list somewhere along the way or you could use the top albums on RateYourMusic or all of Christgau's A+ records). Would you try to draft as much variety as possible? Or try to snag all your favorites, even if they're heavily concentrated in a couple of genres?
   1253. KB JBAR (trhn) Posted: June 28, 2019 at 11:22 AM (#5856666)
I don’t even care enough about albums or music to turn my caps lock on to write a post about how much I love them. Let alone enough to own many of them on physical media.
   1254. manchestermets Posted: June 28, 2019 at 11:30 AM (#5856668)
Seems to me that Davo is the only person with an uncompromising position in this debate.



#1221:
If your point is that Spotify is evil, fascist capitalism and that anyone who wouldn't rather carry around hundreds of CDs at all times is bad and stupid, well, I'd say your argument is bad and stupid.


The idea of buying music downloads had already been referenced in this thread a number of times before 1221 was posted. Refusing to recognise that as an alternative to Spotify counts as uncompromising to me.


1246- “you should purchase physical media because streaming corporations are unreliable” is uncompromising? that’s spicy!


It's stupid is what it is, because it also fails to recognise that physical media is not the only alternative to streaming.
   1255. Davo Posted: June 28, 2019 at 11:33 AM (#5856669)
As if on cue: 50% off the Criterion Collection today.
   1256. manchestermets Posted: June 28, 2019 at 11:33 AM (#5856670)
I loved Edinburgh. Has the Edinburgh Tattoo started yet? If so, go. Very cool show.


It hasn't, it's in August, which is when all the various festivals happen. A very fun time to be there, if your idea of fun is hugely crowded streets, expensive accommodation and running up and down Edinburgh's hills to get from one show to the next. Fortunately, it is mine, which is why I bought tickets for about 20 comedy shows to see during my brief visit there this year.
   1257. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 28, 2019 at 11:41 AM (#5856672)
It hasn't, it's in August, which is when all the various festivals happen. A very fun time to be there, if your idea of fun is hugely crowded streets, expensive accommodation and running up and down Edinburgh's hills to get from one show to the next.

We were there in August 4 years ago. It was great. Just stay off the Royal Mile, and the crowds weren't an issue.
   1258. Nasty Nate Posted: June 28, 2019 at 12:03 PM (#5856674)
I was not-super-young when I learned how "Edinburgh" was pronounced. Do Scottish people (and/or other people from the Great Britain and Ireland) pronounce all -burgh and -burg place names like that, or is it unique for that city?
   1259. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: June 28, 2019 at 12:07 PM (#5856675)
Yes, -burgh is normally pronounced "burra". Like towns ending in "borough" (or "brough" for Middlesbrough - is that spelled wrong or what?)

I think -burg is German and not British. -burgh is the Scottish one.
   1260. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 12:46 PM (#5856683)

This got me thinking. If you took a defined population of "greatest" albums, what would your draft strategy be? Assume that it's a desert island-type scenario. If you don't draft an album, then you can't listen to it again. The population could be a list of the 100 greatest albums (I'm sure Rolling Stone put out a garbage list somewhere along the way or you could use the top albums on RateYourMusic or all of Christgau's A+ records). Would you try to draft as much variety as possible? Or try to snag all your favorites, even if they're heavily concentrated in a couple of genres?


I think I'd need to see the list ... and know who I was drafting with.

Like, if it was a draft with me and Omineca Greg, I could safely leave all the Zeppelin on the board for later rounds!

;)
   1261. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 12:59 PM (#5856687)
A buddy of mine's parents had their first date at a Monkees show in Charlotte in 1967, with Jimi opening. The date went extremely well, apparently one of these "we only had eyes for each other" evenings. They also only had ears for each other, because it was a decade before either of them became aware that they'd seen Jimi Hendrix play. Or at least that they were in an arena while Jimi Hendrix was playing in the same arena. Ah well.


That whole tour (what little of it turned out to be) cracks me up. It was so obviously an insane idea from the start:

On July 17, 1967, one of the oddest musical pairings in history comes to an end when Jimi Hendrix dropped out as the opening act for teenybopper sensations The Monkees.

The booking of psychedelic rock god Jimi Hendrix with the made-for-television Monkees was the brainchild of Hendrix’s manager, Mike Jeffery, who was seeking greater public exposure for a young client who was a budding star in the UK, but a near-unknown in his native United States. It was in the UK, in fact, that Monkee Mike Nesmith first heard a tape of Hendrix playing while at a dinner party with John Lennon, Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton. Nesmith and his fellow Monkees Peter Tork and Mickey Dolenz became instant Jimi Hendrix fans, and after witnessing his legendary performance at the Monterey Pop Festival in June 1967, they encouraged their own manager to invite the little-known but highly respected Jimi Hendrix Experience to join their upcoming U.S. tour.

Hendrix himself appears to have had no direct input on the decision, though he’d made his opinion of the Monkees clear several months earlier in an interview with Melody Maker magazine: “Oh God, I hate them! Dishwater….You can’t knock anybody for making it, but people like the Monkees?” Nevertheless, Hendrix joined the tour in progress in Jacksonville, Florida, on July 8. Predictably, the reception given to the now-legendary rock icon by the young fans of the bubblegum Monkees was less than worshipful. As Mickey Dolenz later recalled, “Jimi would amble out onto the stage, fire up the amps and break out into ‘Purple Haze,’ and the kids in the audience would instantly drown him out with ‘We want Daaavy!’ God, was it embarrassing.”


By the end, Hendrix was playing the shows with his back turned to the audience and they had to invent a story about a protest from the Daughters of the American Revolution to get out of the whole thing ...
   1262. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 01:14 PM (#5856693)
Who is Roy?


You should check out the link in the post immediately before the one you quoted.
   1263. Nasty Nate Posted: June 28, 2019 at 01:22 PM (#5856697)
Oops!

(also, there goes all my productivity for the afternoon right down a youtube wormhole...)
   1264. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 01:52 PM (#5856714)
Well, if I got you to check out Roy Buchanan, my work for today ... is also done.

He might have looked like Bob Ross, but he could flat out ####### play.

Introducing Roy Buchanan - The World's Greatest Unknown Guitarist
   1265. Davo Posted: June 28, 2019 at 02:43 PM (#5856745)
Even though I hate all movies, I took advantage of the Criterion 50% off sale and bought eight of them:

Shadows
Faces
A Woman Under the Influence
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie
Opening Night
Breaking the Waves
Au Hasard Balthazar
   1266. Lassus Posted: June 28, 2019 at 02:55 PM (#5856756)
Speaking of the evils of Capitalism, this morning AIRBNB froze our hosting account with no explanation. We have been on the phone all day with no help. We've also read endless horror stories of similar happening to people who've been hosts for longer with far greater dependence upon the income received. We've been told at least 5 times someone would be calling us within the hour. No one has called. We have a guest allegedly coming today, and we have no idea if AIRBNB told them it was cancelled. Or tomorrow's. Or the day after's. Or the 20 nights in July.

Capitalism lies, all the time, to everyone, and that's all it does. The end.
   1267. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 28, 2019 at 03:05 PM (#5856763)
Capitalism lies, all the time, to everyone, and that's all it does. The end.

If you're defining capitalism as "large corporations with significant market power", then you're pretty much correct. If you're talking about modern, technology based companies, you're 100% correct. Just don't conflate modern capitalism with the free market.
   1268. Lassus Posted: June 28, 2019 at 03:11 PM (#5856770)
I shouldn't have whined about this here. Apologies.
   1269. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: June 28, 2019 at 03:25 PM (#5856786)
Whining about AIRBNB is totally fair game, I think.
   1270. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: June 28, 2019 at 03:45 PM (#5856800)
The idea of buying music downloads had already been referenced in this thread a number of times before 1221 was posted. Refusing to recognise that as an alternative to Spotify counts as uncompromising to me.

Oh, I was just trying to match Davo's level of simplistic obnoxiousness (I guess I succeeded, but I was really only trying to annoy Davo, so apologies). I know the options are endless, and I see no reason to begrudge anyone for their preferences.
   1271. Davo Posted: June 28, 2019 at 04:06 PM (#5856806)
I think you’re bad people, and you make me really sad.
   1272. Lassus Posted: June 28, 2019 at 04:08 PM (#5856807)
I think you have no idea of your belittling content and tone, and how sad you make others.

Maybe we'll all improve.
   1273. BrianBrianson Posted: June 28, 2019 at 04:16 PM (#5856811)
Internet doesn't convey tone well (especially here). You need to be more explicit about it (e.g., using </snark> tags)
   1274. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: June 28, 2019 at 04:19 PM (#5856814)
Sorry about Airbnb. That sucks. I am an Airbnb consumer and never had an issue FWIW. But yeah if I was the provider and the platform did that I would totally be losing my ####. Don't touch the revenue stream ############!!
   1275. Nasty Nate Posted: June 28, 2019 at 04:23 PM (#5856817)
Well, if I got you to check out Roy Buchanan, my work for today ... is also done.
Thanks. Great stuff.

You're Not Alone
   1276. Lassus Posted: June 28, 2019 at 04:26 PM (#5856820)
We are making glacial headway, mostly because Jules is able to cry when required and has used said skill to get info that I don't think we would have gotten otherwise. It seems to be a sign in/security and not banhammer issue so far.
   1277. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: June 28, 2019 at 04:31 PM (#5856823)
1276--That's awesome. Meaning the crying on command as emotional leverage. I appreciate well executed deception.
   1278. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 06:13 PM (#5856849)
Thanks. Great stuff.

You're Not Alone


Oh, no, thank *you* ... I'd never heard that track before.

Here's what I wrote on YouTube:

This track is like Pink Floyd mated with an insane alien cat God and coughed up a hairball that somehow turned out to be Roy Buchanan. It shouldn't exist. I love it.
   1279. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 06:27 PM (#5856851)
   1280. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 06:56 PM (#5856852)
Does Roy win the "best musician with the worst surrounding band ever award"?

He's like watching "Peak Bonds" with the '62 Mets ...
   1281. Omineca Greg Posted: June 28, 2019 at 07:32 PM (#5856855)
George Michael/Wham!

   1282. BrianBrianson Posted: June 28, 2019 at 08:35 PM (#5856870)
Alright, in Davo's defence, Amazon Prime does appear to have Star Treks III and V, but not IV.

In an Album draft, would it be cheating to take Chronicle, Vol. 1, by Creedence Clearwater Revival?
   1283. Davo Posted: June 28, 2019 at 08:58 PM (#5856874)
More than a year later, ‘Justice League’ fans are ramping up demands to #ReleaseTheSnyderCut

Not long after the November 2017 release of “Justice League,” which was considered a critical misfire and commercial underperformer, the spark of hope to see a “director’s cut” of the DCEU film was stoked by fans determined to believe a better full version — one helmed solely by Snyder — could well exist.

(...)What this movement appears to revolve around most is a belief in Snyder (“Man of Steel,” “300”) as superhero director and visual auteur, and that whatever sort of “rough cut” he delivered to Warner Bros. earlier in 2017 — before Whedon took over — surely is more satisfying than the stitched-together product that fans saw on the screen. (Last summer, a spokesman for Snyder told the Wall Street Journal that Snyder had never even seen the theatrical version of “Justice League.” And shortly after the film opened, the Wrap aimed to piece together Snyder’s vision within it.)

This passion has spawned accounts on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, as well as GoFundMe campaigns and even the winning site For Snyder Cut, which explores such questions as “Does the Snyder Cut Exist?” and “How Can You Help Get the Snyder Cut Released?”

So, does that unreleased Snyder cut even exist? The debate burns on, but continuing to provide a point of renewable encouragement is word that Snyder’s early version of “Justice League” was given to the studio before May 2017, when it was announced that the director and his wife, producer Deborah Snyder, would exit the film, weeks after the suicide of their 20-year-old daughter.

Every generation gets the Mr. Arkadin it deserves.
   1284. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 28, 2019 at 09:13 PM (#5856885)
In an Album draft, would it be cheating to take Chronicle, Vol. 1, by Creedence Clearwater Revival?
I think so. The underlying criteria should be the artistic merits of albums as conceived by the artists, not greatest hits packages put together by record labels.
   1285. BrianBrianson Posted: June 28, 2019 at 09:20 PM (#5856890)
Ah, balls. I suppose I'd have to stop being clever and strategic and just take Gordon, then. Can't risk it.
   1286. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 09:28 PM (#5856894)
George Michael/Wham!


No pizza for you ...

Ah, balls. I suppose I'd have to stop being clever and strategic and just take Gordon, then. Can't risk it.


Are we talking Jim or Lightfoot?
   1287. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 28, 2019 at 09:37 PM (#5856896)
Not sure about live albums and/or box sets that have a lot of greatest hits though. For example, Springsteen Live 1975-85. It’s 5 LPs/3 CDs. That probably doesn’t count, but what about a double live album?
   1288. BrianBrianson Posted: June 28, 2019 at 10:17 PM (#5856902)
wat?

Oh, Jim Creeggan.
   1289. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 10:30 PM (#5856905)
#1287 Live Rust.

Hey, hey, my, my indeed ...
   1290. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 10:34 PM (#5856906)
   1291. Omineca Greg Posted: June 28, 2019 at 10:37 PM (#5856908)
No pizza for you ...

Maybe I misunderstood the challenge. George Michael was a good musician. Andrew Ridgeley was worse than Roy Buchanan's backing band (I mean I have no clue who is in Roy Buchanan's band, but I am still 100% sure that I am correct.) In fact, it would be very hard to have a talent split greater than Michael/Ridgeley.

It might only be theoretically possible.

I guess you could have a Lindsay Lohan/Cowboy Joe West situation (not that kind of situation, don't be gross) where the front person has no musical talent whatsoever, and they've hired credible people to prop them up (I'm not talking about Suzi Quatro by the way, OK, maybe Paula Abdul) but that would be a reverse split, so not what we're talking about here.

Am I doing this wrong?
   1292. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 11:01 PM (#5856911)
I'll offer you a peace offering from one of your compatriots.

(an aside ... #1285 ... it's half of the Gordons from #1286)

Then, as the Lord Humungus put it, we can both agree to just walk away ...

(you can still have the pizza, I was just joking about that part)

[edit]
OK, maybe Paula Abdul) but that would be a reverse split, so not what we're talking about here.


I ... don't ... no, really don't want to see your "reverse split"
Not sure where I stand on Paula's talent, but her "reverse split", yes ...


   1293. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 28, 2019 at 11:13 PM (#5856913)
does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours


I think he gets my #1 Gordon award just for that line alone ...
   1294. Omineca Greg Posted: June 28, 2019 at 11:33 PM (#5856915)
Well, here, try an LA Gordon. In case things get worse and we have to slap a tax on Gordons for export, you should be prepared to get your Gordons locally.

G. Lightfoot hasn't really maintained his profile as well as Joni, Neil, Leonard, Burton & Randy. I don't know why that is exactly. I really like his music, his writing of love lyrics are emotional but light at the same time. A nice combination of effervescence and ennui.

Actually, Burton does a great tribute to Lightfoot here.

You see, a Western Canadian mocking the accent of someone from Ontario, we live for that #### up here.
   1295. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 29, 2019 at 12:54 AM (#5856928)
Actually, Burton does a great tribute to Lightfoot here.


Killing floor?

Killing floor.

It's a decent version, I wanted to link the '68 Ottawa show version, but I can't find it on YouTube. In that version's intro, Jimi does the bass line with his thumb, and then does the rhythm and lead to go with it.

Fun fact, the only reason there's a recording of that show is that Joni also played that night and Jimi asked if he could record her set and the tape kept rolling ...

Another fun fact, the part of the reason Jimi signed with Chas Chandler was that Chas told him he knew Eric Clapton and could arrange a meeting with him and Cream.

Jimi went to London, Chas got him on stage with Cream.

Killing Floor was the song Jimi chose.

Part way through Clapton stalked off the stage and got directly in Chas's face: "you told me he was good, you didn't tell me he was that ####### good".
   1296. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 29, 2019 at 01:42 AM (#5856938)
And I feel for Eric there, I mean people were literally writing "Clapton is God" on walls and 30 seconds after Jimi started playing, he not only knew he wasn't "God", but that he wasn't even going to come close ...
   1297. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: June 29, 2019 at 02:13 AM (#5856942)
Appearing originally on Lightfoot's 1976 album Summertime Dream, the single version hit number 1 in his native Canada (in the RPM national singles survey) on November 20, 1976, barely a year after the disaster.[3] In the United States, it reached number 1 in Cashbox and number 2 for two weeks in the Billboard Hot 100 (behind Rod Stewart's "Tonight's The Night"), making it Lightfoot's second-most-successful single behind "Sundown". Overseas it was at best a minor hit, peaking at number 40 in the UK Singles Chart.[4]


This cracks me up.

This is a song about 29 people dying, drowning in a storm on Lake Superior and somehow it made #1 and #2.

The times, they are a changing ...
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