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Milch is here to watch, not interfere. He was a notorious micromanager during Deadwood’s original run, ordering reshoots if he didn’t like the way a scene was playing and dictating new dialogue from the sidelines for the cast to repeat. McShane has spoken of top-to-bottom rewrites being handed to actors just before the cameras rolled, the pages still hot from the copier.

This time, Milch is entrusting the day-to-day execution to his collaborators, among them the director Daniel Minahan, a series veteran, and his co–executive producer Regina Corrado, who started out as a writer on the series in 2005.

But his serenity is also the by-product of a greater urge to let go and accept what life has in store, even if it’s not what he asked for.

It’s here that we come to the matter of David Milch’s Alzheimer’s diagnosis.

Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: May 01, 2019 at 05:48 AM | 969 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   501. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 03:24 PM (#5842854)
Flip
   502. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 03:55 PM (#5842858)
James Gray Writing, Directing ‘Armageddon Time’
...A memoir about growing up in Queens, New York, in the mid-1980s. In a twist, Fred Trump, the Queens-based real estate developer who sired Donald Trump, and the current president will appear as characters, although the events will unfold long before there was ever a Trump in the White House.
   503. Lassus Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:06 PM (#5842861)
For PF and others, the newest insane theory:

The reason why Dany wasn't ever seen on the dragon is because Bran - who has been weird and evil this whole time - warged into Drogon and just demolished everything, while she could basically do nothing. She seems fixated on the Red Keep, and makes a beeline, but halfway there decides to burn burn burn.

It certainly answers the unbelievably strange lack of closeups on the alleged mad queen.
   504. Man o' Schwar Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:06 PM (#5842862)
The obvious way to do this would be to have Dany fly to Winterfell on her dragon with the purpose of incinerating the person she sees as her latest arch nemesis. It wouldn't involve much of a time skip if she left her armies behind (or if they were largely annihilated in some fratricidal struggle with the remnants of everyone else), and it would allow Bran to warg into Drogon and give him an anyeurism and then have someone random kill Dany. You could imagine her thinking she'd be invincible on Drogon, attacking someplace without any sort of anti-dragon defenses in place.

My vote: Brienne.

Dany killed Jamie (at least we think so), and she threatens Sansa (who Brienne was sworn to protect). Who better to avenge Jamie's death than Brienne, and it would be in keeping with her character as protector.

Think about this - Sansa on the throne, with Sir Brienne as the first female hand.

(I don't think any of this will happen, of course. I'll be shocked if we don't end up with Jon Snow, the aw shucks brooding monarch. I like the proposal that no one gets the throne, and the kingdoms just live in independent harmony with each other and with the wildlings. But who the hell knows at this point.)
   505. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:07 PM (#5842863)
Sigh. I tried. I give up.
   506. Man o' Schwar Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:08 PM (#5842865)
The reason why Dany wasn't ever seen on the Dragon is because Bran - who has been weird and evil this whole time - warged into Drogon and just demolished everything, while she could basically do nothing.

Now I can't stop picturing Dany on the back of Drogon yelling "Whoa horsey! Whoa! I said whoa!" like Yosemite Sam riding on that camel.
   507. PreservedFish Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:11 PM (#5842866)
That theory is wildly impossible, Lassus.
   508. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:14 PM (#5842867)
My “world’s most expensive homage to Zach Snyder” theory doesn’t look so far-fetched now!
   509. Lassus Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:17 PM (#5842868)
Sigh. I tried. I give up.

MAYBE BRING ELSE SOMETHING UP, FFS.


My “world’s most expensive homage to Zach Snyder” theory doesn’t look so far-fetched now!

Yeah, "far-fetched" is really not the word I would have used.


That theory is wildly impossible, Lassus.

Well, I think it's wildly ridiculous, but I'm not sure why it's IMPOSSIBLE.
   510. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:19 PM (#5842869)
I’m gonna spike the hell out of that football if I got it right. AWWWW YEAH
   511. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:21 PM (#5842870)
505- Try harder. I hate this show!
   512. Lassus Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:22 PM (#5842871)
Something tells me "being right" isn't exactly what motivates your celebratory preaching.
   513. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:23 PM (#5842872)
Good work Dr Freud. It’s actually an unabashed love of BVS!
   514. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:24 PM (#5842873)
Sigh. I tried. I give up.


Time for a podcast roundup. NPR's feed got all screwed up a few weeks ago, and I took the opportunity to purge my subscriptions.

Top-tier (listen to nearly every episode):

Doug Loves Movies
Hang Up and Listen (sports)
How Did This Get Made?
Lowe Post (NBA)
Ryen Russillo podcast
On The Media
Reply All
Slate Political Gabfest


Middle-Tier: Listen to episodes more than once a month:

About Last Night
Effectively Wild
Fresh Air
The Audible (college football)
The Starters (NBA)
This American Life
WTF

Low-tier: listen occasionally when a topic looks interesting, or I have a long drive:

All Fantasy Everything
My Favorite Murder
Off-Book-the Improvised Musical Podcast
The Rewatchables
Radiolab






   515. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:25 PM (#5842874)
Timely for the thread: a response to the "let people enjoy things" meme. It's somewhat overheated in my mind (some of it tongue-in-cheek, I think), but pretty compelling. I more agree than disagree, I think, on first read.

I have no interest in GoT or anything Marvel, but that whole essay read to me like a defense of being a jerk, in the style of the Four Questions.

The author doesn't even entertain the possibility that someone objecting to a critique could be anything other than an oversensitive fan.
   516. Lassus Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:27 PM (#5842875)
I have a hard time with podcasts.

1. They remind me of NPR and
2. I feel guilty I'm not reading and
3. I feel guilty I haven't come up with a podcast.

My wife is a Murderino. She feels a bit as if their joy and energy has dwindled lately. Which, you know, decline curve. She also admits it might just be her.
   517. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:30 PM (#5842876)
I’m reading a book of film criticism by A.S. Hamrah, whose work was unknown to me.

And I love it so much. The guy hates EVERYTHING! And since he writes for a tiny publication (N Plus One) he doesn’t have to pretend otherwise.

So of course he finds things to hate in even the few recent movies I have liked. But I still love reading them—if anything, reading takedowns of movies I like is even better than just passively nodding along while reading him bash a movie I already think is terrible.
   518. Hot Wheeling American Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:32 PM (#5842878)
There was almost fifteen years between 9/11 and Batman v. Superman: Da Dawn of Justice. Yet that's the movie that gets to lay claim to post-9/11 ashen fog-of-destruction imagery?
   519. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:34 PM (#5842879)
   520. jmurph Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:36 PM (#5842881)
2. I feel guilty I'm not reading and

I almost never listen to a podcast when I could otherwise be reading. It's mostly when traveling/commuting. Occasionally I'll do it with a game on mute, which I guess could technically be time spent reading, but I can't really watch sports and also read.
   521. Hot Wheeling American Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:36 PM (#5842882)
I've really narrowed down my podcasts since moving to Stitcher to be able to listen to premium Hollywood Handbook. So, the slimmed down current list:

Listen as soon as it's published:

Pardon the Interruption
Hollywood Handbook
Hollywood Handbook The Pro Version
Slash Filmcast
Heavyweight (season-based, so not an active show)

Listen to all, but not in a rush

Reply All
This American Life
WTF (two a week and they can really pile up, so I make an effort to listen to at least some each week)

Listening depends on the guest/topic

How Did This Get Made?
Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend
The Rewatchables
Unspooled
   522. Lassus Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:43 PM (#5842885)
but I can't really watch sports and also read.

I can actually do this with baseball. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
   523. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:45 PM (#5842886)
The author doesn't even entertain the possibility that someone objecting to a critique could be anything other than an oversensitive fan.
...or the possibility that the person making the critique is being a tedious bore who may just deserve a shushing.
   524. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 04:52 PM (#5842887)
I’ve mostly stopped listening to podcasts. It’s:

* Blank Check with Griffin and David (movies, immediately)
* The Dollop (history/comedy, often)
* The Cinephiliacs (movies, when I remember)
* Going Rogue with Caitlin Johnstone (politics—on hiatus)
* Unbelievable (religion, when I remember)
* Chapo Trap House (politics/comedy, when I remember)
* 30 Minutes in the New Testament (when I remember)
* Citations Needed (politics/media, when I remember)
* Vegan Warrior Princess Attack (animal rights/politics, when I remember)
* Go Bayside! (Saved by the Bell reviews)
* West Wing Thing (West Wing reviews)
   525. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:03 PM (#5842889)
But related, N Plus One arguing that, actually, podcast are Bad.
Instead of emotion or camaraderie, what podcasts produce is chumminess — reminiscent of the bourgeois club atmosphere, reconfigured as the desperate friendliness of burned-out knowledge workers. They aren’t pieces of media so much as second jobs or second lives — a way to pursue our hobbies when we have no time to spare, to have smart people talk at us when we have no time to think, to have new books summarized when we have no time to read. Our relationship with podcasts exists in uninterrupted parallel to the rest of our existence, a wealth of knowledge ready to be tapped at any moment. Podcasts intensify our saturation while pretending to relieve it. It’s like a voluntary authoritarian state, except instead of state-funded sitcoms, we have Marc Maron. But what would we do without it? Die, probably. Be murdered. Become a true-crime podcast. Don’t forget us when we’re gone; please rate us on iTunes.
   526. JJ1986 Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:10 PM (#5842891)
That excerpt does not make me want to click the link.
   527. Greg Pope Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:11 PM (#5842892)
Sigh. I tried. I give up.

Hey, one of the all-time great shows is wrapping up its run this week. It's not surprising that we want to talk about it.
   528. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:20 PM (#5842893)
Yet no one wanted to discuss the stunning ascent of President Splett.
   529. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:27 PM (#5842895)
   530. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:29 PM (#5842896)
On Cinema at the Cinema had better not be ending its run!
   531. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:33 PM (#5842897)
@writers_HQ
Tag yourself, cowards.

Neutral Good!
   532. Rennie's Tenet Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:33 PM (#5842898)
Hey, one of the all-time great shows is wrapping up its run this week.


I just hope that the last shot is of the elevator doors opening, and the guy taking down the "Out of Order" sign.
   533. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:34 PM (#5842900)
I would love to find some good new Podcasts. Effectively Wild comes out often enough to generally give me fresh material to listen to for my commute, so that's good, but I could go for a little more variety. I've listened to a bit of The Sleeper and the Bust, and it's ok.

I went through a phase of bingeing on Andrew Talks to Chefs, but I had to stop because although Andrew means well, I couldn't take his ultra-neurotic style anymore. 10-minute intros about how he's had a cold lately, repeated begging for ratings/reviews, etc. Plus he does this thing where he compulsively agrees with his guests - he breaks in with a "yeah" or an "uh-huh" after about every fourth word out of the guest's mouth.
   534. JJ1986 Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:37 PM (#5842901)
@writers_HQ
Tag yourself, cowards.
Where do I fit if I close the book with no marker, but write down the page number on a piece of paper?
   535. Man o' Schwar Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:46 PM (#5842902)
I just hope that the last shot is of the elevator doors opening, and the guy taking down the "Out of Order" sign.

I would like to see Amy and Sheldon move out, and then when they're leaving he takes the sign off. He put it up when he moved in because he didn't like the noise the elevator made, and he just told everyone it was broken.

(Yes I know, it retcons the season 3 episode where we learn how the elevator was broken. But still, he could have seen it getting fixed and decided to put the sign up just to keep his own peace.)

What I'm hoping they don't do: Penny is pregnant. She's made it pretty clear that she doesn't want kids, and I'm tired of sitcoms that feel like the only way to give a "happy ending" to a female character is to saddle her with a husband and kids whether she wants them or not. They already did it with Bernadette, who was very explicit about not wanting them, who ended up with 2 of them, and who has acted miserable and cranky ever since she first got pregnant.

(Don't even get me started on the ending for Friends, where they ruined 10 years of building up Rachel's character by having her abandon her dream job at the airport and move back in with the guy who basically stalked her into dating him, cheated on her at the first sign of trouble, refused to take responsibility for his actions, lied to her about getting an annulment after they were accidentally married, knocked her up with no interest in pursuing a relationship with her, and then sabotaged her attempts to date because even though he didn't want her, he didn't want anyone else to have her either.)

That said, I'm 100% certain that's where we're headed. She gets pregnant, Amy and Sheldon win the Nobel Prize, and after 10 seasons of being a throwaway main character, Raj meets his dream girl in the last 20 minutes of the last episode. Ugh.
   536. Man o' Schwar Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:49 PM (#5842903)
Yet no one wanted to discuss the stunning ascent of President Splett.

That was a dark, dark ending, but completely in line with the show. Selina turned on everyone around her to get what she wanted, which was bound to happen eventually.

Watching the FBI lead Gary away while she couldn't look at him, such an awesome scene. Tony Hale killed it this year. I love that, in the end, it was much harder to watch her turn on him than it was to watch her turn against her own daughter.
   537. Man o' Schwar Posted: May 16, 2019 at 05:53 PM (#5842904)
Where do I fit if I close the book with no marker, but write down the page number on a piece of paper?

Do you keep the piece of paper on top of the book? Or carry it with you as a reminder?

(I was always somewhere between lawful good and neutral good - I used to use the Levenger bungee bookmarks, in various colors, but they were not embossed with my initials. But now 99% of the books I read are digital, so I guess True Neutral.)
   538. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: May 16, 2019 at 06:29 PM (#5842908)
Vacillate between neutral good and chaotic neutral.
--
I wondered why there wasn't more Veep talk, given the praise the finale got. (I see it in spurts, been stuck on season 3 for awhile but will eventually likely finish the series - far enough in the future that I'll've forgotten most spoilers by then.

I'm overdue for a pod list revamp - especially that I'm scaling back on them in favor of more music. Current subscriptions: The Dollop (much less fun than it used to be), Hollywood Handbook (I feel like I need to listen more actively to this than most joke around gab pods, so I listen less often than I otherwise might), WTF (I bank 'em, then knock 'em out in a day), Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend (occasionally), Hang Up and Listen, Lowe Post, Effectively Wild, Off Book (depends on guest), Stuff You Should Know, FiveThirtyEight Politics, Punch Up The Jam, Doughboys, Ron Burgundy (sometimes), improv4humans, Judge John Hodgman, Three Swings (sometimes), GGACP, 99% Invisible, Baseball America (occasionally), James Bonding (every once in awhile), Good One, Comedy Bang Bang, The Bugle, 50 Things That Made The Modern Economy, Imaginary Advice, Woj Pod, Smartest Man in the World, No Such Thing As A Fish, Harmontown, Put Your Hands Together, RUTREM2ME, Dana Gould Hour, Hooray Show, Memory Palace, The Underculture, Why Won't You Date Me, Beautiful Anonymous (occasionally), Threedom.
   539. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 16, 2019 at 06:48 PM (#5842910)
What’s the Difference Between Riverdale and the Riverdale Porn Parody Beaverdale?

Two things are always true on Riverdale: Everyone is hot, and everyone #####. After three seasons of intrigue and scandal, we now know that Veronica keeps her pearls on and Jughead takes off his hat. We’ve seen Cheryl Blossom and Toni Topaz dipping their toes in the pool of starter BDSM, donning leather catsuits for a bit of burglary-as-foreplay, and testing the network standards department with their partially unclothed make-out seshes. And the abs, oh, the abs! It’s hardly breaking news that TV viewers like watching absurdly good-looking people go to town on each other, but few shows embrace that fundamental truth quite like this CW teen drama.

All of which left Beaverdale writer and director April O’Neil in an unusual artistic predicament. How do you make a porn parody out of a show that’s already a porn parody of itself?

(...)Similarly potent premises formed the foundation for Beaverdale’s other two scenes. When Jughead is down in the dumps about Archie hogging all the tail, Ethel Muggs (memorably portrayed by Adriana “Squirt Queen” Chechik) comforts him in a way no hamburger possibly can.

What a time to be alive!
   540. Howie Menckel Posted: May 16, 2019 at 07:09 PM (#5842912)
I have a hard time with podcasts.

me, too.
I've been doing one for 8 months, and gotten good feedback - even to the point of industry people jockeying to be guests, which is amusing (and welcomed).

yet I've never listened to one - not even my own (and no, I'm not going to plug it here!). kind of a weird situation.
   541. chisoxcollector Posted: May 16, 2019 at 08:15 PM (#5842923)
Podcasts I listen to, listed in descending order of priority.

Now Playing
Filmspotting
Slash Filmcast
Rewatchables
Binge Mode
Cast of Kings
The Big Picture
The Watch
Corpse Club
F This Movie
   542. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 16, 2019 at 08:34 PM (#5842927)
cheated on her at the first sign of trouble, refused to take responsibility for his actions
THEY WERE ON A BREAK!!!
   543. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: May 16, 2019 at 08:42 PM (#5842929)
So I recently (re)started listening to podcasts.

Early Stuart England (By BTF local Greg K)
Revolutions
History of Rome

Dunc'd On
Real GM Radio

Some local (MN) sports podcasts which replaces listening to local sports radio.

Mostly I listen occasionally at work and always when walking the dog.
   544. Lassus Posted: May 16, 2019 at 08:44 PM (#5842930)
What a time to be alive!

Don't worry, people will stop being entertained by sex any day now. That 75,000 years of evolution and development is no match for you guys.
   545. Man o' Schwar Posted: May 16, 2019 at 10:25 PM (#5842952)
THEY WERE ON A BREAK!!!

Man, every time he said that I wanted to hit him with my car.

Ross was a horrible human being, and his sister was a shrill, domineering shrew. Jack and Judy Geller should be ashamed of the parenting job they did.
   546. Swoboda is freedom Posted: May 16, 2019 at 10:27 PM (#5842953)
I really like the new Michael Lewis Podcast, Against the Rules. Some of the others- Hardcore History,Freakonomics, Hidden Brain, Friendly Fire, How did this get Made, Revolutions, Pozcast (Joe Poznanski),
   547. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: May 17, 2019 at 08:35 AM (#5842989)
Friends was awful. And Ross the "paleontologist" was the worst of the bunch.
   548. PreservedFish Posted: May 17, 2019 at 08:53 AM (#5842993)
I despised Friends. The success of that horrid show with millenials is one of the most bewildering pop culture trends of my lifetime.
   549. Rennie's Tenet Posted: May 17, 2019 at 08:56 AM (#5842994)
What I'm hoping they don't do: Penny is pregnant.


And, that's exactly where they went.
   550. Lassus Posted: May 17, 2019 at 09:12 AM (#5842997)
I have a hard time seeing Big Bang as superior to Friends.
   551. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: May 17, 2019 at 09:27 AM (#5843004)
I have a hard time seeing Big Bang as superior to Friends.

This is like those Hitler vs Stalin arguments BBTF used to engage in.
   552. jmurph Posted: May 17, 2019 at 10:17 AM (#5843029)
Instead of emotion or camaraderie, what podcasts produce is chumminess — reminiscent of the bourgeois club atmosphere, reconfigured as the desperate friendliness of burned-out knowledge workers. They aren’t pieces of media so much as second jobs or second lives — a way to pursue our hobbies when we have no time to spare, to have smart people talk at us when we have no time to think, to have new books summarized when we have no time to read. Our relationship with podcasts exists in uninterrupted parallel to the rest of our existence, a wealth of knowledge ready to be tapped at any moment. Podcasts intensify our saturation while pretending to relieve it. It’s like a voluntary authoritarian state, except instead of state-funded sitcoms, we have Marc Maron. But what would we do without it? Die, probably. Be murdered. Become a true-crime podcast. Don’t forget us when we’re gone; please rate us on iTunes.

This is among the 3 dumbest things I've ever read in my life.
   553. Lassus Posted: May 17, 2019 at 10:41 AM (#5843044)
This is like those Hitler vs Stalin vs GoT show-runners Weiss & Benioff arguments BBTF used to engage everyone is engaging in.
As they say...
   554. PreservedFish Posted: May 17, 2019 at 10:42 AM (#5843046)
552- It's basically just academic snark. So what if I like to half-listen to some #### about the history of Mongolia while I'm folding laundry? My response: "Shhhh ... let people enjoy things."
   555. flournoy Posted: May 17, 2019 at 10:46 AM (#5843049)
This is among the 3 dumbest things I've ever read in my life.


It is pretty unintelligible. I haven't listened to very many podcasts, but my gripes are when the hosts lose focus. Too often, I've seen a podcast that was created for a very specific purpose and topic. It starts off pretty well done. Then several episodes (is that the right word?) in, it devolves into an exercise in self-indulgence by the hosts - inside jokes, long off-topic tangents, etc.
   556. Lassus Posted: May 17, 2019 at 10:50 AM (#5843054)
but my gripes are when the hosts lose focus. Too often, I've seen a podcast that was created for a very specific purpose and topic. It starts off pretty well done. Then several episodes (is that the right word?) in, it devolves into an exercise in self-indulgence by the hosts - inside jokes, long off-topic tangents, etc.

Let's check everyone's realness for a moment.

Who here besides me has listened to "Watch what Crappens"?
   557. jmurph Posted: May 17, 2019 at 11:02 AM (#5843061)
552- It's basically just academic snark. So what if I like to half-listen to some #### about the history of Mongolia while I'm folding laundry? My response: "Shhhh ... let people enjoy things."

Ha.

I would say, broadly speaking, people trying to learn things is positive. I'm not sure there's a lot of meaning to be drawn from this.

The idea that listening to podcasts on the bus/in the car/on the train on the way to and from work in lieu of the radio or music is some kind of important and negative trend is, well, at least unsupported by that excerpt.
   558. jmurph Posted: May 17, 2019 at 11:02 AM (#5843063)
I mean seriously, substitute "listening to music on the radio" into that excerpt and tell me it's not insane.
   559. PreservedFish Posted: May 17, 2019 at 11:53 AM (#5843085)
It's probably better than 'zop's claim that podcasts primarily exist as a way for educated white urban folks to signal their social class. Or something like that. I, for one, know that's exactly why I listen to This American Life while I'm in the car alone, doing the dishes, or using headphones on public transportation. To signal to other people how thoughtful I am.
   560. Lassus Posted: May 17, 2019 at 11:56 AM (#5843088)
It's probably better than 'zop's claim that podcasts primarily exist as a way for educated white urban folks to signal their social class.

Ha! See #556.


I mean seriously, substitute "listening to music on the radio" into that excerpt and tell me it's not insane.

You know, certain people might actually think this about classical music...
   561. PreservedFish Posted: May 17, 2019 at 11:58 AM (#5843090)
Oh wait I just signaled to you all. Maybe he was right!!
   562. jmurph Posted: May 17, 2019 at 12:02 PM (#5843096)
It's probably better than 'zop's claim that podcasts primarily exist as a way for educated white urban folks to signal their social class.

Hooo boy I think I missed that one. Add it to his greatest hits.
   563. Lassus Posted: May 17, 2019 at 12:03 PM (#5843097)
Oh wait I just signaled to you all. Maybe he was right!!

Because you listening to This American Life was such a shock.
   564. mike f Posted: May 17, 2019 at 12:09 PM (#5843103)
Hollywood Handbook

HH is by far my favorite podcast of the 100+ I subscribe to (I only actively listen to 10-20). But I only listen if I can actually pay attention, which is impossible with a toddler. So I’m a good two years behind with no plan of how to catch up. It’s very distressing. I actually listen to Hayes’s LA Podcast, even though I live in Florida.

And my son is starting to demand Raffi in the car, so that 10-20 will soon be dwindling.
   565. jmurph Posted: May 17, 2019 at 12:21 PM (#5843107)
I, for one, think that people listening to a 20 episode podcast series about the French Revolution instead of Crazy Ira and The Douche during drivetime is a sign of the "desperate friendliness of burned out knowledge workers."
   566. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 17, 2019 at 12:25 PM (#5843108)
Lassus, I've been reading Iain Banks' "Culture" novels. Let's see, I've read Consider Phlebas, The Player of Games, Use of Weapons, and Excession, and just started Matter. They've all been interesting (though some bits, eg, the "playful" names of spaceships) seem kind of cutesie to me. And, as with many SF worlds, there's the issue of "How did this society overcome the deleterious side effects of the massive energy production required to develop & use all this incredible technology?" Which is just sort of glossed over.

But a few weeks ago none of the Culture books were available from any of my libraries (as e-books anyway), so I read one of his non-SF novels, Stonemouth, and thought it was terrific. Takes place over a five day period, while bringing in important (to the main character) history from a couple of periods over the preceding fifteen years. I enjoyed the Scottish setting, found the leads likeable (or more) and the villains suitably ominous (not clever, just always seemingly a hair's breadth away from impulsive acts of violence).
   567. Lassus Posted: May 17, 2019 at 12:29 PM (#5843109)
And, as with many SF worlds, there's the issue of "How did this society overcome the deleterious side effects of the massive energy production required to develop & use all this incredible technology?" Which is just sort of glossed over.

Well, yeah. There's a level of realism that has to fall off when the concepts go full space-opera. But I don't mind that at all, honestly.


But a few weeks ago none of the Culture books were available from any of my libraries (as e-books anyway), so I read one of his non-SF novels, Stonemouth, and thought it was terrific. Takes place over a five day period, while bringing in important (to the main character) history from a couple of periods over the preceding fifteen years. I enjoyed the Scottish setting, found the leads likeable (or more) and the villains suitably ominous (not clever, just always seemingly a hair's breadth away from impulsive acts of violence).

His non-genre is generally seen as incredibly impressive as well. It was a terrible loss.
   568. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 17, 2019 at 12:32 PM (#5843110)
I don't mind that at all, honestly.

Oh, I don't really mind it either while I'm reading. But I wish somebody would explain it so that we could adapt it for this world!
   569. Lassus Posted: May 17, 2019 at 01:01 PM (#5843122)
Have you read any Alastair Reynolds?
   570. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 17, 2019 at 01:20 PM (#5843135)
I have not. I shall take the question as a recommendation and see what's available from the libraries.

I have jury duty starting Monday and think I should have more than 1 book on my Kindle.
   571. Lassus Posted: May 17, 2019 at 01:40 PM (#5843140)
There are stand-alones and series. As stand-alones, I thought Pushing Ice and House of Suns were excellent (the former really ended well, IMO, always an issue). Terminal World was not.

I think the Revelation Space universe novels were great fun, and his first novels so bursting with ideas, but should certainly be read in order. (NOTE: Personally I think Absolution Gap, the last one, was bad.) Wiki considers Chasm City a stand-alone within that universe, which I wasn't really aware of. Poseidon's Children series is very good, but didn't have the same impact on me on initial reading. I'm a great fan of the world-building in the Revenger Universe, but it's just been too spare through the first two, narratively, for me to really enjoy as much as the others. I'm hoping for a big payoff, but really seems like it should have been one massive book instead of broken up.
   572. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 17, 2019 at 02:44 PM (#5843168)
Writer Herman Wouk ("The Caine Mutiny," "Marjorie Morningstar," "The Winds of War"/"War and Remembrance," and the Fred Allen radio show has died at the age of 103.
   573. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: May 17, 2019 at 02:48 PM (#5843172)
Herman Wouk, the inspiration for Jimmy Buffett's musical, "Don't Stop the Carnival". RIP
   574. Swoboda is freedom Posted: May 17, 2019 at 03:01 PM (#5843179)
I read Don't Stop the Carnival while on vacation in Belize. It was at the resort and someone had left it. I used to love City Boy when I was a kid.

RIP. Good innings at 103.
   575. Man o' Schwar Posted: May 17, 2019 at 03:29 PM (#5843189)
What I'm hoping they don't do: Penny is pregnant.

And, that's exactly where they went.


It wrapped up pretty much as I expected - I was hopeful when she was drinking during the first episode that they might skip it, but I hadn't considered the brief time jump to the second episode as a window where it could happen. Also, after 12 years you would think that they would find something to do with Raj, but I guess not. I read some interviews where they said it's too TV-finale-ish to have everyone's story wrap up at the same time, which I agree with I guess. It doesn't mirror real life. But after many years of serving essentially as a butt of the group jokes and some unpleasant Indian stereotyping, it might have been nice fan service to throw him a bone (and not just for Cinnamon).

For those who liked it, I assume that, like Friends, it will live on in reruns forever.
   576. Alex meets the threshold for granular review Posted: May 17, 2019 at 05:01 PM (#5843220)
Any fan of action films should run, not walk, to go see John Wick 3 this weekend. I imagine many of you were planning on it anyway, but I can't speak highly enough of it. One of the things I really enjoyed about John Wick 2 was how it expanded on the goofy international organized crime/hitmen conglomerate which seems so central to the universe in which the films take place, having seeped into the fabric of everyday life itself (as revealed by the closing moments of the second film). This film furthers those weird hints of a strange underworld which we don't fully understand and the details of which we're not quite privy to, and I couldn't be happier for it.

On top of which, Chad Stahelski et al have really continued to raise the bar for creativity in action choreography. My audience was continually laughing with glee and surprise at not only the sheer imagination on display during some of the setpieces, but also because of how absolutely perfect their sense of timing (comic or otherwise) is. (No little coincidence that each JW2 and JW3 prominently feature clips from Buster Keaton films at the very beginning.) And there's an absolute surplus of killer action movie actors whose faces will be familiar to fans of the genre who end up squaring off against Keanu in this one, plus loving nods and easter eggs to all sorts of action classics (The Matrix, natch, but also The Good the Bad and the Ugly, the aforementioned hat tip to Keaton, et al).

One final note: it really shows how much Keanu and his cohorts respect and admire the sheer dedication it takes to become as good at their crafts as they are, and one of the pleasures of JW3 is how lovingly the camera is trained on Keanu when he does all the little things as well as he does (reloading and checking his weapons, clearing corners, positioning himself and his feet to prepare for his next move, etc.). It's a relentlessly fast action film which still takes the time to let you luxuriate in those sorts of details.
   577. Srul Itza Posted: May 17, 2019 at 05:02 PM (#5843221)
I have a hard time seeing Big Bang as superior to Friends.


No Ross.

Major addition by subtraction.

   578. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 19, 2019 at 12:34 PM (#5843540)
I heard there’s a big episode tonight.
   579. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: May 19, 2019 at 01:25 PM (#5843545)
The "winner", if you will, seems to be out. Or at least some leaks that came out before the 4th episode have been accurate through that episode and the last one, and so it's assumed that they're going to be accurate about tonight's finale as well. (SPOILER: Hot Pie doesn't come out on top.) Some of it's a little vague because the leaker apparently saw the last episodes without sound, but the broad outlines appear to be there.

Point is: don't get all Google-y or otherwise spend a lot of time on the internet if you like a surprise. (It's also possible that the leaker saw one of the famous alternate endings, and tonight we learn that Hot Pie does indeed ascend the throne.)
   580. Lassus Posted: May 19, 2019 at 01:35 PM (#5843549)
Fernigal, I saw you reference a leak and immediately put you on ignore before I got to the seventh word of your post. Even stating that there IS a winner is kind of shitty. Boo.
   581. Lassus Posted: May 19, 2019 at 01:38 PM (#5843550)
My main concern is Drogon buying it, because my wife will be inconsolable. And I have a hard time seeing him live through this episode.
   582. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: May 19, 2019 at 01:45 PM (#5843551)
Point taken Lassus (though you won't see this). I tried to edit, but too late. I also didn't really read the leaks, so to be honest I don't know that there is precisely a winner. Anyway, mea culpa.
   583. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: May 19, 2019 at 01:57 PM (#5843553)
Point taken Lassus (though you won't see this). I tried to edit, but too late. I also didn't really read the leaks, so to be honest I don't know that there is precisely a winner. Anyway, mea culpa.
Quoted for Lassus.
   584. Lassus Posted: May 19, 2019 at 03:21 PM (#5843562)
Yeah, I'm sorry for overselling my annoyance and probably sounding like a jerk. It's just that we're so close to the end!
   585. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: May 19, 2019 at 04:56 PM (#5843583)
I spent a great deal of time on trains over the last 2 weeks, and a fair percentage of it was taken up with another re-read of Stephen Baxter's 'Flood', perhaps the trashiest book that has reliably re-set my mood whenever, as an adult, I read it. (Plot: The Earth floods, for non-global warming reasons, and it just keeps coming.) I'm not a huge believer in 'guilty pleasures' for a lot of types of media, but Baxter's work definitely qualifies for me. Other plots he's used, and with which I've happily gone along: The human race is doomed to die in an unspecified way in 200 years because of maths, making breeding superintelligent squid for space exploration a priority, and an implacable rock-devouring substance from the Moon accidentally gets to the Earth and eats it. 'The Day After Tomorrow' has nothing on him.
   586. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: May 19, 2019 at 04:59 PM (#5843584)
In a different format, Kieron Gillen's DIE comic is outstanding, taking the ideas of Dungeons and Dragons and turning them into something far darker than 'what if George R.R. Martin wrote a sequel to the 1980s D&D animated kids series?' I don't even play the game, but the third issue - with Tolkien's most famous characters literally transplanted into trench warfare - was genre playtime of the highest order.
   587. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 19, 2019 at 06:14 PM (#5843593)
585- Those Baxter synopses sound *incredible*!
   588. Lassus Posted: May 19, 2019 at 07:35 PM (#5843616)
Baxter is not exactly a hack, although he is rather prolific.
   589. PreservedFish Posted: May 19, 2019 at 10:51 PM (#5843688)
THRONES.

   590. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 19, 2019 at 11:36 PM (#5843690)
Shoulda gone the Batman v Superman route.
   591. Hot Wheeling American Posted: May 19, 2019 at 11:42 PM (#5843691)
Are there any Marthas in Westeros?
   592. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: May 20, 2019 at 03:52 AM (#5843698)
Baxter is not exactly a hack, although he is rather prolific.


That's fair - I would definitely say that his prose style is functional at best and his characterization is generally secondary to the need to info-dump, but the info-dumps are so good, and the plotting so giddy, that it's hard to mind too much. I sometimes think of his better books as 'imagine the entire Rama cycle compressed into one novel and with a lot more geology and astronomy factoids distributed fairly evenly among the characters'.
   593. Lassus Posted: May 20, 2019 at 09:01 AM (#5843701)
I liked the ending, which was not what I expected.

But between this and Star Wars, I am now officially weary of internet genre response and criticism. It's tiring and bad.

I think this is the signal that I'm now officially 100% old.
   594. Lassus Posted: May 20, 2019 at 09:02 AM (#5843702)
Shoulda gone the Batman v Superman route.

Which would have been what?
   595. Rennie's Tenet Posted: May 20, 2019 at 09:31 AM (#5843705)
Did the wolf turn out okay? Asking for my dog.
   596. bunyon Posted: May 20, 2019 at 09:54 AM (#5843713)
Me too, Lassus. I thought it was a really good end. Given time, I suspect it will be clear that the only fundamental problem with season 8 (and, probably, 7, as well) is pacing. Both seasons needed 50-100% more episodes. There just wasn’t time to believably do a lot of what they tried to do.
   597. bunyon Posted: May 20, 2019 at 09:57 AM (#5843715)
Also agree with Lassus on the state of criticism. Everything and everyone sucks irredeemably. Everything is a statement on the world as a whole. It’s a tv show. If you want to see stuff sucking irredeemably, turn on the news.

I mean, horrors, a writer did something you didn’t like, man the wall!
   598. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: May 20, 2019 at 10:10 AM (#5843716)
The people who liked the ending: what morals are you deriving from it?
   599. Zonk, your King of All that Is Real Posted: May 20, 2019 at 10:13 AM (#5843717)
Things worked out great for the wolf...

After Westerosi debate about how far to extend suffrage collapsed around horse vs dog voting rights, Ghost went north for a heartfelt reunion with Jon. Ghost is now styling himself Alpha of the Real North, first of his name, protector of Dire Wolves and the non-horses, defender of the realm. There was an end-credits easter egg where Nymeria shows up with her pack and tensions mount over who will rule the new Wolf Kingdom, but I presume that was just a setup for one of the various spin-offs HBO has in the works.
   600. bunyon Posted: May 20, 2019 at 10:19 AM (#5843719)
Davo: that peace is better than war, no matter how perfect; that a ruler who executes your enemies is likely as not to turn on you; that a leader worth dying for is also a leader others will kill for. That, even after tragedy and horror, life goes on. That looking for absolute truth is a mug’s game.

I’m leaving the country again so won’t be around to comment much and don’t want to give spoilers. If you didn’t like it, cool. But there has to be an ending. Not everyone will be happy.
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