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OT - November* 2018 College Football thread

* As is tradition, the November thread runs through Championship Week before giving way to the Bowl Spectacular.

Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 01, 2018 at 06:27 AM | 722 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   201. Howie Menckel Posted: November 14, 2018 at 08:02 PM (#5787605)
bump
   202. PeteF3 Posted: November 14, 2018 at 08:23 PM (#5787607)
Hate to defend Alabama in any way but they did recently announce two upcoming home-and-home series, one with Texas and one with Notre Dame. I believe their season ticket holders finally got a little too restless with the crappy home schedules.
   203. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:10 PM (#5788768)
Maryland with an 81-yard touchdown on the second play of the game, and suddenly a garbage early slate shows a tiny sliver of promise.
   204. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:15 PM (#5788769)
Maryland recovers a surprise onside pooch kick and then fumbles on the next play, as Jeshaun Jones goes all Clint Stoerner.
   205. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:18 PM (#5788771)
The Gator crowd in this thread probably won't have much to talk about today: less than five minutes into the game, Florida is leading Idaho, 14-0, including a pick-six on the very first play from scrimmage.
   206. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:23 PM (#5788772)
Ohio State field goal, and then Maryland with a 75-yard touchdown run on the first play.
   207. McCoy Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:29 PM (#5788773)
Go Terps!!
   208. McCoy Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:31 PM (#5788774)
End of first and Alabama is only up by a TD? Take the #1 spot away!
   209. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:38 PM (#5788776)
Terps with a fourth-down stuff followed by a 53-yard completion to the Ohio State 22. Things are now legitimately interesting.
   210. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:41 PM (#5788777)
Overthrow of a wide-open receiver in the end zone, and Maryland settles for a field goal.
   211. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:46 PM (#5788778)
Citadel scores!
   212. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:48 PM (#5788780)
And Jeudy promptly fumbles.
   213. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:49 PM (#5788781)
Everyone knows you can't let the Citadel hang around like that.
   214. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:55 PM (#5788783)
OSU narrowly avoids giving up a third long touchdown run with an ankle tackle, then gives up a 52-yard run two plays later. McFarland has 214 yards on seven carries.
   215. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:57 PM (#5788784)
Broken play -- backup running back went the wrong way -- and two sacks push Maryland from the 17 to the 32, and the field goal is missed. Terps shooting themselves in the foot three times in scoring position, or this could be over already.
   216. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:00 PM (#5788785)
Blown coverage, 68-yard touchdown, and what should've been at least 27-3 is suddenly 17-10.
   217. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:02 PM (#5788786)
Alabama gets stopped inside the 10 and sneaks the field goal just inside the left upright. 10-7 late in the second.
   218. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:11 PM (#5788789)
48-yard field goal on the final play of the half to tie it!
   219. Red Voodooin Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:13 PM (#5788791)
What did the Idaho Vandals ever do to anybody to deserve this?
   220. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:14 PM (#5788792)
Meanwhile, Maryland keeps running all over Ohio State, including a 10-yard pickup on 4th-and-3, setting up a 16-yard touchdown. 24-10.
   221. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:17 PM (#5788793)
What did the Idaho Vandals ever do to anybody to deserve this?


The Vandals are finally being punished for their role in the destruction of the Roman Empire.
   222. McCoy Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:18 PM (#5788794)
Strip the top seed from them!

I'm guessing Alabama puts up 35 pointed in the second half. If they don't somebody has some serious explaining to do.
   223. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:21 PM (#5788795)
ESPN links to this highlight of some Ohio State shenanigans, which includes a call I've never seen before: "False start, offense, everyone but the center." That was an accurate description of the play.

The Citadel winning this game would be one of the four or five greatest events in human history. Ain't gonna happen, but it would be up there.
   224. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:33 PM (#5788797)
Alabama fumbles the kickoff!
   225. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:36 PM (#5788800)
Blurgh. Citadel doesn't go for 4th-and-2, a false start negates a 40-yard field goal, and the 45-yard follow-up is missed.
   226. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:40 PM (#5788801)
Ohio State fumbles into the end zone for a touchback going in for the tying score before the half. Maryland dodges a bullet but still has to feel terrible about not blowing this game open when it had every chance to.
   227. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:46 PM (#5788803)
Well, the upset of the century went to hell in a hurry. Slant-and-go for a long gain followed by a corner route for a touchdown, then a Citadel fumble is returned for a touchdown.
   228. McCoy Posted: November 17, 2018 at 02:01 PM (#5788809)
What sound does a terrapin make? Phffffffffft!
   229. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 02:02 PM (#5788810)
Pick-six and a little breathing room for the Terps.
   230. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 02:47 PM (#5788821)
Canada clearly doesn't trust his quarterback to throw against a stacked box, so Maryland has spent the entire second half getting runs blown up.
   231. Meatwad Posted: November 17, 2018 at 02:52 PM (#5788822)
Too many teams are letting osu off the hook this year.
   232. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:00 PM (#5788824)
Fake punt seems like Maryland's best hope for a passing offense.
   233. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:06 PM (#5788825)
Then Pigrome throws a perfect ball for what should be a touchdown.


...and replay says it is thus.
   234. Meatwad Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:11 PM (#5788827)
Syracuse qb looks to be done. Qb is down with a back injury.
   235. Meatwad Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:14 PM (#5788828)
On second thought that other kid can throw and punt.
   236. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:14 PM (#5788829)
Even if OSU wins, they aren't making an argument to get chosen over another 1-loss conference champ.
   237. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:22 PM (#5788830)
What an incredibly lucky play. Snap into the ground, and Haskins scoops it like he's Olerud and runs it in.
   238. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:23 PM (#5788832)
Pigrome couldn't do squat most of the day, but the three he did hit were enormous.
   239. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:27 PM (#5788833)
If Maryland blows this chance because of a false start...
   240. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:30 PM (#5788834)
That was uncatchable. But I guess I'll take it.
   241. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:32 PM (#5788836)
Holy Roller!
   242. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:32 PM (#5788837)
Notre Dame in faux Yankees gear is just perfect. If they could somehow fit in a Duke basketball reference then the circle would be complete.
   243. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:33 PM (#5788838)
No holy roller rule in college?

I don't know the rules in the pros actually.

edit: would have been placed back at the 1 in the pros, since it would have been after the 2-minute warning.
   244. Meatwad Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:44 PM (#5788841)
Maryland really wanted osu to tie it up there.
   245. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:46 PM (#5788844)
Thank you, Ohio State defense, for being so unbelievably glitchy.
   246. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:47 PM (#5788845)
Really dumb of Pigrome not to get rid of the ball.
   247. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:48 PM (#5788846)
This has already been a very long game. Now OT.
   248. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:52 PM (#5788847)
A big win by WVU today, and they would make a strong case to stay ahead of OSU if they both end up as 1-loss conference champs. OU has to like this as well. Not sure it really matters to the other teams. Maybe a 1-loss Alabama or Clemson?
   249. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 03:59 PM (#5788848)
I don't know how on 1st-and-goal from the 20, you leave a safety matched up one-on-one on the outside. That's just unconscionable.
   250. Red Voodooin Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:04 PM (#5788850)
Huge two point conversion coming!

EDIT: ####!
   251. McCoy Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:05 PM (#5788851)
How do you blow that!!
   252. Red Voodooin Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:05 PM (#5788852)
He was wide open and the QB missed him by about three feet.
   253. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:05 PM (#5788853)
wide open. sheesh.

edit: he was so wide open you could see the score happening before the throw was even made.
   254. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:06 PM (#5788854)
I don't put the ball in the hands of the quarterback I've shown little confidence in all day, even if I make the decision to go for two.
   255. Red Voodooin Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:06 PM (#5788855)
God, I hate Urban Meyer. WTF was going on earlier this game with his sideline theatrics?
   256. manchestermets Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:07 PM (#5788857)
I don't really follow football that closely, so what's the rationale behind calling the 2 point conversion there? Yes, you win if you get it, but it's a big risk isn't it?
   257. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:09 PM (#5788858)
I don't really follow football that closely, so what's the rationale behind calling the 2 point conversion there? Yes, you win if you get it, but it's a big risk isn't it?
The rationale is that Maryland is much worse than OSU, so if they are going into a 50/50 situation like OT is, the odds are really like 65/35 in favor of OSU (or something). If they think their odds on a single 2-pt conversion attempt are better (like 40/60), it makes sense to go for it.
   258. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:10 PM (#5788859)
The rationale is that Ohio State's the better team and is likelier to win in additional overtimes than to stop one play.
   259. McCoy Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:10 PM (#5788860)
I figure Canada figured his defense wasn't going to stop Ohio State and it isn't a sure thing that his team would get into the end zone every single time. Hey, they are 5-5 so I don't mind taking risks. Kind of like Citadel should have gone for it on 4th and 2 in the first half but instead went for the FG.
   260. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:12 PM (#5788861)
I don't really follow football that closely, so what's the rationale behind calling the 2 point conversion there? Yes, you win if you get it, but it's a big risk isn't it?
It's an attempt by the team with less talent to shorten the game. Just trading touchdowns plays to the team with more talent, so if you think there's a ~45% chance you make the conversion then it's probably a risk worth taking.
   261. Red Voodooin Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:13 PM (#5788862)
The rationale is that Maryland is much worse than OSU, so if they are going into a 50/50 situation like OT is, the odds are really like 65/35 in favor of OSU (or something). If they think their odds on a single 2-pt conversion attempt are better (like 40/60), it makes sense to go for it.


And they probably they thought they had a really good play based on what they'd seen of OSU's defense, and indeed the play unfolded perfectly, the QB just totally botched it. Epic choke job. I don't know if the route called for the receiver to bolt to the back of the end zone there, but imagine if it did it would only be done if the guy isn't already WIDE OPEN!
   262. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:13 PM (#5788863)
WSU is probably in too weak a spot to have benefited from a near loss by OSU.
   263. Red Voodooin Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:20 PM (#5788865)
Greatest two point conversion win ever:

2007 Fiesta Bowl

Biggest FAIL:

1984 Orange Bowl
   264. Red Voodooin Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:22 PM (#5788866)
WSU is probably in too weak a spot to have benefited from a near loss by OSU.


Probably. But Ohio State losing and then beating Michigan would have been one of the several things that need to go right for WSU.

I'm doubtful they will beat UW, tbh. They don't have a very good record in the Apple Cup when the game has particular meaning for them.
   265. manchestermets Posted: November 17, 2018 at 04:22 PM (#5788867)
The rationale is that Maryland is much worse than OSU, so if they are going into a 50/50 situation like OT is, the odds are really like 65/35 in favor of OSU (or something). If they think their odds on a single 2-pt conversion attempt are better (like 40/60), it makes sense to go for it.


Yup, that makes sense - thanks all for the explanation.
   266. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 05:09 PM (#5788874)
Finish a drive, Michigan.
   267. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 05:42 PM (#5788876)
Didn't finish that drive. Oops.
   268. Meatwad Posted: November 17, 2018 at 05:51 PM (#5788879)
Cues going for the fireld goal to end the shut out and almost missed it. With 10 seconds left.
   269. Red Voodooin Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:01 PM (#5788881)
Notre Dame beating down the #12 team in the nation is pretty impressive.

Granted, Syracuse is nowhere near the #12 team in the nation, but they are probably as good or better than say... Maryland.
   270. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:03 PM (#5788882)
I would like to officially boo Boston College for calling a timeout just so they could run the old "try to draw the defense offsides on fourth down" "play." Lame.

And what do you know, Florida State hits a bomb to take the lead.
   271. . . . . . . Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:11 PM (#5788884)
This ref crew working the UM-IU game is awful, even by B1G standards.
   272. Red Voodooin Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:24 PM (#5788888)
West Virginia is in serious trouble.
   273. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:27 PM (#5788890)
Wasting nine seconds by not calling a timeout certainly won't help.
   274. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:40 PM (#5788891)
If WVU beats OU next week, I think they are very likely back in the B12 championship, and probably OU is out with the winner of ISU/UT in. Depends on the tie breakers.

Top 10 teams are 1-5 against the spread so far today, assuming UM doesn't run back a couple (edit: 3) of turnovers.
   275. . . . . . . Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:41 PM (#5788893)
UM’s FG holder just may have saved their damn season...
   276. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:43 PM (#5788895)
UM’s FG holder just may have saved their damn season...
Spoken like a fan. Even with a miss they were probably near 90% to win the game.
   277. . . . . . . Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:50 PM (#5788899)
Yeah, but I really didn’t want the new kicker to miss a key FG and get it in his dome before next week.
   278. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:50 PM (#5788900)
If WVU beats OU next week, I think they are very likely back in the B12 championship, and probably OU is out with the winner of ISU/UT in. Depends on the tie breakers.

ISU has the tiebreaker over WVU and UT has it over OU.
   279. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:56 PM (#5788901)
WVU won't fall far in the rankings. There's nowhere to fall to, since the committee seems mostly intent on ranking teams by losses and WVU is a good team that lost a close one on the road to a fairly decent team. I guess that's good news for Oklahoma.

If OU beats WVU next week, probably they want Texas to win out (beating ISU tonight in the process). That would give them the chance to avenge their one conference loss, and would also probably be the most impressive to the committee.

Go Cyclones!
   280. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 08:00 PM (#5788902)
ISU has the tiebreaker over WVU and UT has it over OU.
That's only for head-to-head, not 3 way ties. If WVU beats OU, and the ISU/UT winner wins out, there are 3 teams with 2 conference losses.

If UT is the third team, then WVU and UT are in, since WVU beat both the others and UT beat OU.
If ISU is the third team, then most likely WVU and ISU are in (I think), since all 3 of WVU/ISU/OU are 1-1 against each other, they go to record against the next best team (UT), in which case ISU and WVU are in with OU out.

This assumes no more losses by these 4 teams against other conference teams.
   281. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 17, 2018 at 08:17 PM (#5788907)
   282. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 17, 2018 at 10:52 PM (#5788939)
Top 10 teams now 1-7 against the spread this week. (You could count the 29-point LSU win either way, so I'm leaving it out.) WSU game still to go.
   283. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 18, 2018 at 12:17 AM (#5788945)
Wazzu up 48-14 in the second quarter. Six touchdowns in seven possessions for the offense, plus a kickoff that Arizona failed to field that was recovered in the end zone.
   284. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 18, 2018 at 12:25 AM (#5788947)
Arizona fumbles at the goal line for a touchback with 40 seconds left in the half. Wazzu gets a completion to midfield with 31 seconds, fails to call one of its three timeouts and doesn't get the ball snapped until there are 18 seconds, but no matter as Minshew connects for a 50-yard touchdown with 10 seconds to spare.


And with that I'm free to go to bed.
   285. CFBF Rides The Zombie Ice Dragon Posted: November 18, 2018 at 02:33 PM (#5789006)
Colorado fires Mike MacIntyre.

Kansas hires Les Miles.
   286. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 18, 2018 at 04:03 PM (#5789018)
Panthers just went for two down 1 with a minute left in the 4th quarter. Unlike the OSU game, Carolina was a favorite (though a road team) against Detroit. On top of that, Detroit had all their time outs, and Carolina had only two, so had no chance to get the ball back if they didn't get the conversion or onside kick (which they didn't get).

This made no sense to me. NFL coaches have been historically conservative in tie score situations, so going fro two and getting it only forces Detroit to sue their remaining time wisely. Bringing the score to even, maybe Detroit plays conservatively, and the Panthers probably have the edge in OT anyway.

Of course, I wasn't watching the game... maybe the odds of the Panthers scoring their were high for some reason, or they had little faith in their team fro the rest of the game for some reason.

   287. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: November 18, 2018 at 04:29 PM (#5789031)

This made no sense to me. NFL coaches have been historically conservative in tie score situations,


Well, they do call him Riverboat Ron.

In any case, isn't conventional wisdom "go for the tie at home and the win on the road"? Carolina was on the road.
   288. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 18, 2018 at 05:10 PM (#5789035)
In any case, isn't conventional wisdom "go for the tie at home and the win on the road"? Carolina was on the road.
I always thought that had more to do with who would be favored in OT. Especially in the pros, teams are generally not that far apart in talent that home teams are usually favorites. For example, of the 12 NFL games this week, home teams were favored in 10 of them.

edit: knowing nothing else about the game, and not having watched any of it except the 2-point attempt, I would have guessed Carolina would have been favored in OT. FWIW, they had arguably outplayed Detroit to that point on the day, outgaining them 387-309, and gaining significantly more yards per play as well (6.8 to 4.8).
   289. McCoy Posted: November 18, 2018 at 05:21 PM (#5789036)
Well if cam had actually performed like a QB there they would have had the two points easily. He had all day to make the throw but yet he sailed it.
   290. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 18, 2018 at 05:25 PM (#5789037)
To be fair, 2-point conversion success rate is up in the NFL, and might be over 50%, especially with Cam Newton. Still, considering that Detroit had 3 time outs and a minute left (and Carolina the better team in OT), it seems like a bad time to try it. Remember, if the game is tied Detroit has to be concerned about giving the ball back to Carolina after three quick throws runs almost no time off the clock. The Panthers had 2 time outs of their own until they burned one before their 2-point attempt. This uncertainty makes it quite a bit more likely that Detroit would play conservatively with the score tied, especially if they have a first down incompletion.

Unless Carolina thought they had at least a 60% chance on that 2-point attempt, it seems like a negative play to me.

edit: If Riverboat Ron really thinks his odds of conversion is significantly greater than 50%, he should be going for it almost every time, including earlier in this very game.
   291. stanmvp48 Posted: November 18, 2018 at 07:14 PM (#5789046)
San Diego absolutely just gave one away
   292. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 18, 2018 at 07:44 PM (#5789050)
San Diego absolutely just gave one away
Only saw the last few plays. Rivers generally throws the ball into the ground quite often when a play appears to be going nowhere, and maybe that's often a good idea. However, on 3rd and 7 with a minute left and the ball at the 50, a sack really wouldn't have hurt the Chargers, but Rivers didn't even try to improvise and gave up on the play quickly, throwing it into the ground. I only saw the play once, so possibly it was the right decision, and obviously Rivers shouldn't force it into coverage anywhere near the line of scrimmage there, but maybe he could have scrambled a bit or even heaved it deep. Why give up so easily when the consequences are almost nil for taking a sack? They would have punted either way and it's doubtful a few yards of field position there would have meant anything.
   293. stanmvp48 Posted: November 18, 2018 at 08:01 PM (#5789055)
The play before, on second and 4, after a timeout, Rivers and the back went opposite direction and he took a 3 yard loss
   294. stanmvp48 Posted: November 18, 2018 at 08:43 PM (#5789059)
Also the Von Miller interception looked like a complete screwup
   295. Howie Menckel Posted: November 18, 2018 at 08:54 PM (#5789061)
Lions already had beaten the Patriots and Packers at home this year, fwiw

in fact, all 3 of the Lions Ws this year have come against the only 3 teams that have beaten the Bears. so by the transitive property.... except the Bears beat the Lions last week anyway
   296. McCoy Posted: November 18, 2018 at 09:16 PM (#5789067)
I didn't view it as rivers spiking the ball. It looked to me like a bad throw period.
   297. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 18, 2018 at 09:48 PM (#5789076)
The Rivers play was even worse than I realized, because Denver had no time outs! Apparently Rivers knew he should take a sack and had a brain fart (noting again that throwing the ball into the ground is something he likes to do generally). A sack would have run almost half the time remaining off the clock. (I was watching on RedZone and didn't know the time out situation.) Rivers after the game admitted his mental error. (emphasis added)

With the clock stopped at the two-minute warning, the Chargers trotted back out on the field looking to move the chains on 3rd-and-8.

Again, one simple first down wins the game.

Thus, the Bolts opted to stay aggressive, choosing to throw the ball for a first down rather than simply run to take time off the clock.

“We needed a first down to win the game, and we were trying to stay aggressive,” Head Coach Anthony Lynn explained. “We needed a first down. We got a play where a back goes one way and a quarterback goes the other way. Then, we needed one first down to win the game. That’s what we needed. We weren’t trying to run time off the clock and punt it back to them and put the defense back on the field. Let’s get the game (won) right now. One first down and the game is over.”

According to Philip Rivers, the worst-case scenario in his mind was that he’d simply go to the ground and take the sack so that time would keep ticking away.

At the line of scrimmage, Rivers checked out of the third down play into another pass, opting to run a safer one instead in which he’d get the ball quick to Keenan Allen on the screen. However, Von Miller read it perfectly, and Rivers had to throw it into the ground as he saw the Pro Bowler read the play at the last minute.

“I felt (the corners) were going to kind of (play) soft (on) Keenan, and it was safe to get it to his hands and then see what happens. It’s kind of a little bit of a dressed up running play, and Von, he sniffed it out again. He felt it again and made a good play. I didn’t want to fool with it after the result that happened earlier in the game (when he had the interception). Obviously, reaction there. I would love to pull that thing back and let (the clock) run, but I didn’t.”

Chucking it into the ground avoided the interception.
Unfortunately, the play took only two seconds and stopped the clock, giving Denver 1:51 to march down the field into field goal territory instead of 1:20.

“I knew that when we were going out on the field, take the sack (if nothing is there),” Rivers said. “If you don’t like anything, take the sack and run the time off. When you’re in a screen, it’s one of those catch it and throw it (right away plays). I’m not looking for any excuses. I need to pull the ball back and take the sack, or find a way to complete (it).”
   298. Howie Menckel Posted: November 18, 2018 at 10:17 PM (#5789081)
the Broncos scored a TD for a 20-19 lead earlier in the 4th qtr, and tried a 2-point conversion. call on the field was "failed," and the Broncos coach - according to the radio announcers I heard - had the challenge flag out.

but he didn't challenge, and after a commercial break the announcer said that the Broncos had actually scored on the conversion and would have had a 22-19 lead if challenged. instead, Chargers soon kicked a FG to go up 22-20.

#dumbanddumber
   299. . . . . . . Posted: November 19, 2018 at 12:02 AM (#5789087)
Stop talking about dumbass pro football in this thread.
   300. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: November 19, 2018 at 12:30 AM (#5789088)
That's fair. and Flip.





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