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   1301. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:27 PM (#4285031)
Waiting to read Spivey's post game rant - should be delicious


Well, there's a lot to say and a lot of ways to take it. One is that Kansas is as good as Kentucky and Kentucky seems to make a habit of giving good SEC teams hell. The other is that a young team playing conference road games is always going to have trouble. I do grant both of those things, and think they are bigger factors than people seem to think. But there's also question marks about Texas. Mainly, Texas has elite talent in several areas. They have elite WR and TE talent. They have elite RB talent. They have elite DL talent. They have pretty solid cornerbacks, and an above average oline. When you have talent like this, and aren't playing great, you have to ask why a team isn't playing up to its potential. I see several things:

1. Vaccaro is incredibly, incredibly overrated. This ####### is a finalist for the Thorpe award. He wouldn't be anywhere near an impact player most years, and in Texas' best years he wouldn't start.
2. Texas has had serious injuries in the LB core. Texas only has a couple of good linebackers, and they're both hurt. Linebackers and strong safeties are what create great rush defenses. I have two minds about this: this is bad luck. But also, we're ####### Texas. Some teams can't afford to lose 2 really good linebackers. Texas shouldn't be one of those teams.
3. We are terrible at tackling. This ties in very well to #1 and #2. But I think this simply is a coaching issue. We have been a great defensive team the last 3 years. They showed the numbers and Texas has been in the top 11 in defense the last 3 years. This is in a very high octane league.
4. We struggle seriously on 4th down defense. I think much of this is because our entire team has an incorrect attitude about football. In football, and ESPECIALLY IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL, going for 4th whenever there's an argument for it, is usually the right play.
5. David Ash isn't good. He just isn't accurate enough to be a QB that can win the Big 12. McCoy probably doesn't have a strong enough arm. But it's easier to develop a strong arm than develop accuracy. Either way, I don't know how either can be elite quarterbacks. But I think that McCoy can put his receivers in a position to demonstrte their excellence.
6. Manny Diaz doesn't seem to give a #### about the run. This kind of ties into #2, but it's a serious problem. What people who don't follow the Big 12 much don't realize is that the league is actually really good at running the ball. It's just in spread formations.
7. We're 6-2. It hasn't been pretty, but we're very much in a place where we can go either a BCS bowl (win out) or the Cotton Bowl (go 3-1).

My concern is less about this year. But more about long term success and if we have the right coaches in place to grow players.
   1302. DA Baracus Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:31 PM (#4285033)
the same greg mcelroy who's a better QB than both of the other first round picks on the new york jets?


While I think it would be hilarious if that was true, none of us have any way of knowing that until McElroy plays.

But that's not what we are talking about. You claimed a stat line like that on an undefeated national champion would propel someone to top 5 draft status. That's clearly wrong, but please continue to move the goalposts.
   1303. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:36 PM (#4285038)
Well, a couple of upsets fell short, but the 3:30 slate is DEEP!
   1304. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:36 PM (#4285039)
I feel terrible for Lattimore the way that Spurrier spoke for Lattimore. He spoke like Lattimore's football career may be over. It's a real shame.
   1305. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4285040)
While I think it would be hilarious if that was true, none of us have any way of knowing that until McElroy plays.

But that's not what we are talking about. You claimed a stat line like that on an undefeated national champion would propel someone to top 5 draft status. That's clearly wrong, but please continue to move the goalposts.
have you seen mark sanchez or tim tebow try to throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield? it's almost undoubtedly true, and it's more pathetic than hilarious. neither of sanchez or tebow are in the leaf/russell tier of catastrophic busts, but they're also really, really terrible at throwing the ball.

   1306. Mike Webber Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4285041)
7. We're 6-2. It hasn't been pretty, but we're very much in a place where we can go either a BCS bowl (win out) or the Cotton Bowl (go 3-1).

Sat, Nov 3 @ #14 Texas Tech
Sat, Nov 10 vs Iowa State
Thu, Nov 22 vs TCU
Sat, Dec 1 @ #3 Kansas State

If they can go 3-1 or 4-0 they deserve good things to happen to them, that is a rough road.
   1307. DA Baracus Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:41 PM (#4285042)
have you seen mark sanchez or tim tebow try to throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield? it's almost undoubtedly true, and it's more pathetic than hilarious. neither of sanchez or tebow are in the leaf/russell tier of catastrophic busts, but they're also really, really terrible at throwing the ball.


I think Sanchez is an awful QB and Tebow isn't any better. But we weren't talking about them, we were talking about Bill O'Brien and how Tom Brady was apparently riding his coattails.
   1308. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:42 PM (#4285044)
have you seen mark sanchez or tim tebow try to throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield? it's almost undoubtedly true, and it's more pathetic than hilarious. neither of sanchez or tebow are in the leaf/russell tier of catastrophic busts, but they're also really, really terrible at throwing the ball.


McElroy was like 3/10 for 40 yards against Texas in the national championship game. I believe he was hurt. But I don't remember ever seeing anything from him other than he was a game manager.
   1309. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:49 PM (#4285051)
TT/KSU is going to be very interesting, today.
   1310. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4285053)
Man, Texas Tech's D looks amped today.
   1311. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4285054)
Nobody wants to acknowledge it, but TT's defense is legitimately very good this year. And they can always pass the ball. I actually think beating them is going to be harder than beating KSU, for Texas.
   1312. DA Baracus Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:55 PM (#4285055)
Georgia's gameplan seems to be commit as many unsportsmanlike conducts as possible. Funny thing is it worked before.
   1313. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 03:56 PM (#4285056)
Texas Tech is without a doubt the most annoying team in college football to play.
   1314. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:03 PM (#4285060)
Wow, that WR got blown the #### up (edit: in the Florida game)
   1315. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:09 PM (#4285063)
Wow, that WR got blown the #### up (edit: in the Florida game)


Indeed. I was a little amused when Verne said, "Let's go to the replay and see if we can find out what happened."

What happened? A very big man wrapped his arms around the receiver's neck while the receiver was running in the opposite direction and slammed him to the ground. You don't need Sherlock Holmes for that.
   1316. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:11 PM (#4285065)
WOW, K-State with a huge forced fumble and return for a TD. There is a flag though.
   1317. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:14 PM (#4285067)
The TD got called back and the ball spotted on the 15 or so. That's gonna hurt if Tech's D keeps playing like this.
   1318. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:14 PM (#4285068)
Florida's gagging a little at the moment.
   1319. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:16 PM (#4285069)
I don't think Florida and KSU are gagging as much as they're just not the kind of teams that are going to be able to stomp every team they play.
   1320. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:17 PM (#4285070)
Three fumbles in nine minutes of play after three fumbles all year long is a little gaggy.
   1321. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4285073)
The Big East cannot afford to have another undefeated team lose to a MAC team. Sheesh Rutgers, really?
   1322. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:25 PM (#4285076)
Man, Muschamp looks insane.
   1323. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:27 PM (#4285077)
And he's calmed down considerably since last year, Cowboy.
   1324. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:32 PM (#4285082)
And he's calmed down considerably since last year, Cowboy.

Ha, really? That look was so menacing. I mean, it wasn't Bo Pelini, acting like a child embarrassing angry, but man, that was a terrifying look.
   1325. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:35 PM (#4285089)
Georgia's QB is killing them. Throw that ball away kid!
   1326. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:43 PM (#4285096)
Oregon is winning 56-0 at half over Colorado. Oregon has 311 yards rushing and 5 rushing TDs. Colorado is winning the TOP.
   1327. puck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:45 PM (#4285101)
We're less than five minutes into Oregon-Colorado and Oregon has a 14-0 lead.

CU lost to Fresno St 69-14. They're capable of anything.

Edit: well, anything bad.
   1328. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:49 PM (#4285106)
Ha, really? That look was so menacing.


"Considerably" is probably exaggerating a bit. But there was a game against Auburn last year where he blew up so spectacularly at the officials that he wouldn't even quiet down for a second to hear their explanation. I really did question his mental stability at that point.

Put it like this: Urban Meyer was so intense his brain nearly exploded, and Muschamp's had more on-field blow-ups in a year and a half than Meyer did in six.
   1329. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:52 PM (#4285109)
Muschamp is insanely intense. I think really highly of him too.
   1330. smileyy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:54 PM (#4285111)
I kind of hope Oregon hangs 100 on Colorado. I hate Colorado for some reason. Oh wait, now I remember.

And they're terrible. I hate terrible teams. Especially terrible teams in major conferences, who cling to their conference affiliation as some sort of sign of relevance.
   1331. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:58 PM (#4285115)
I moved to Boulder last year to study in CU's political science PhD program. They kicked me out in May. So I do derive some small pleasure from watching Colorado get murdered, though I love Boulder quite a bit.
   1332. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:01 PM (#4285119)
What the #### was that KSU?
   1333. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:04 PM (#4285123)
I think Aaron Murray's a really good QB, but damn, this is not his day.
   1334. DA Baracus Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:05 PM (#4285126)
Aaron Murray looks like #### today.
   1335. puck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4285129)
They kicked out you? Was it a money thing? The state doesn't fund the university too well, I don't think.

   1336. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:13 PM (#4285132)
Nah, it was a GPA thing: mine wasn't quite high enough. There were some personality conflicts during my time there that I think played a role in how willing they were to boot me the second they had the chance. Still, my fault entirely.
   1337. DA Baracus Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:24 PM (#4285143)
Bacarri Rambo makes a great play and then does the dumbest thing possible. Just take a knee.
   1338. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:25 PM (#4285144)
Oh man, Driskel, what are you doing? Muschamp is going to eat your first born!
   1339. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:25 PM (#4285145)
Oh, sweet Jesus. The one damn thing you can't do.
   1340. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:29 PM (#4285151)
Rutgers looks fricking terrible. WOW. Kent State. Really? I'm so glad my shitty team isn't in this shitty conference any more.
   1341. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:41 PM (#4285162)
And K-State takes control with another forced fumble (or maybe it was an incomplete pass, I'm really not sure). They are a tough team.
   1342. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:52 PM (#4285177)
Roughing the punter is the most galling penalty in football, but unsportsmanlike conduct after an unsuccessful third down play is right up there.
   1343. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:08 PM (#4285190)
Kent St. puts the game away, Rutgers had six turnovers today. So much for a big time Big East conference race.
   1344. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:09 PM (#4285191)
Roughing the punter is the most galling penalty in football, but unsportsmanlike conduct after an unsuccessful third down play is right up there.
i was rather partial to a play the other week, where there was offensive holding, then offensive pass interference, and then on something like 2nd and 36, there was a defensive hold called, so a five yard penalty with an automatic first down.

oh, and speak of the devil, there was just an awful unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on penn state after braxton miller airmailed a throw on 3rd down.
   1345. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:18 PM (#4285197)
I have no earthly idea how Florida is still in this game.
   1346. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:20 PM (#4285198)
Florida may be gagging, but so is Georgia. Holy crap, if they lose this game, they should feel ashamed.
   1347. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:28 PM (#4285200)
Georgia's had success running up the middle. I'd just run that three straight plays. Little chance of a turnover and your defense is doing fine.
   1348. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:39 PM (#4285208)
big block and recovery there.
   1349. I am going to be Frank Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4285211)
Tom Brady was an ok college qb. He was bypassed by every team multiple times in he draft (including the patriots multiple times). No future first round qb should have to battle a true freshman for snaps in his junior no matter how hyped that guy is, especially with a conservative coach like Carr running the team. There was an espn documentary (not sure if it was a 30 for 30) about Brady and the other qbs picked before him. He was lucky to be even drafted
   1350. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:51 PM (#4285213)
And K-State takes control with another forced fumble (or maybe it was an incomplete pass, I'm really not sure). They are a tough team.


KSU made it clear they were going to win this game. But that was the wrong call, and it was pretty much the turning point in the game.
   1351. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4285215)
You're not allowed to tackle the runningback on a screenplay.
   1352. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:57 PM (#4285217)
I love that Florida CB being really happy with himself after giving up back to back first downs.
   1353. smileyy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:57 PM (#4285218)
I was only following on ESPN's Gamecast, but this seemed like an interesting outcome:

Trailing 23-20 with the ball on Miami (OH)'s 7 yardline with 9 seconds left in the game, after having driven 68 yards in 1:15, I guess Ohio decided to go for the win, and lost the game when the quarterback was sacked.

I like going for the win there, but man, is there some hindsight...
   1354. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:58 PM (#4285219)
You have to go for the win there, but you have to go for a play like a fade where you know you won't get sacked.
   1355. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:59 PM (#4285221)
Roughing the punter is the most galling penalty in football, but unsportsmanlike conduct after an unsuccessful third down play is right up there.
oh, and here's another topper, again from the penn state game:

tOSU is punting on 4th down the possession after having a punt blocked and recovered in the endzone for a TD. the snapper dives at a rusher's knee, and the rusher pushes him down to protect himself.

so, of course, that's holding, and there's a 10 yard penalty with an automatic 1st down. for ohio state.

and of course, that calls keys a game tying drive going into the half.
   1356. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4285224)
Verne Lundquist laughs like a rotting onion.
   1357. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:04 PM (#4285225)
YAC YARDS!
   1358. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:05 PM (#4285226)
It's hard to criticize too sharply a defense that's played so well all day, but man, that was a horrific defensive drive. Mitchell owned Purifoy all drive, and Purifoy couldn't even make a tackle when he needed to.
   1359. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:07 PM (#4285227)
Penn State tied with OSU at the half. Everywhere, it moves a little for Penn State fans. Not b/c they're playing OSU close; because they're having a boys punt pass and kick competition on the field for halftime.
   1360. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:08 PM (#4285228)
A Rich Rod team not gakking up a close game in the second half? What the hell is this? Hurricanes in the Northeast in October, Rich Rod coaching a close game competently. . .
   1361. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:12 PM (#4285229)
USC has 5 turnovers, losing the turnover battle by 4. And has basically the same amount of yards as Arizona. Kind of amazing they're still even in the game.
   1362. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4285231)
USC has 5 turnovers, losing the turnover battle by 4. And has basically the same amount of yards as Arizona. Kind of amazing they're still even in the game.


Don't underestimate Rodriguez's capability to #### this up. This is a man who hired Greg Robinson to run a 3-3-5.
   1363. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:14 PM (#4285233)
That was a really nice run by the QB.
   1364. Every Inge Counts Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:14 PM (#4285234)
Georgia about to roll over it looks like.
   1365. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:15 PM (#4285235)
GAGAPOTUMUS!
   1366. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:16 PM (#4285236)
they're having a boys punt pass and kick competition on the field for halftime.
andrew "ried"

he was a mormon 13.
Trailing 23-20 with the ball on Miami (OH)'s 7 yardline with 9 seconds left in the game, after having driven 68 yards in 1:15, I guess Ohio decided to go for the win, and lost the game when the quarterback was sacked.

I like going for the win there, but man, is there some hindsight...
in general, i say, when your offense has the chance, go for the win. ohio being undefeated probably should have changed the calculus on that, though.


and HOLY ####### HELL at that play by florida.
   1367. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:16 PM (#4285237)
That wasn't Jarvis Jones. That was a ####### moronic play by whomeverthefuck that Florida player was.
   1368. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:18 PM (#4285238)
I mean...just...you have to understand that you're not going to leap through four Georgia defenders from the four-yard-line. You have to.
   1369. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:18 PM (#4285239)
I would say that if you are crying after your game ending fumble, you lack requisite toughness.
   1370. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4285242)
I just don't see a team in the SEC that can beat Alabama.
   1371. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4285243)
Florida recruited Jarvis Jones, and he was widely considered a UF lock. On Signing Day 2009 he went across the country and signed with USC. He got to transfer after the NCAA lowered the hammer on USC and chose Georgia.

The point I'm making, I guess, is #### Reggie Bush.
   1372. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:24 PM (#4285245)
5 TFL, 3 sacks, and 2 forced fumbles. That's a ####### ballgame.
   1373. Mike Webber Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:26 PM (#4285246)
And K-State takes control with another forced fumble (or maybe it was an incomplete pass, I'm really not sure). They are a tough team.


KSU made it clear they were going to win this game. But that was the wrong call, and it was pretty much the turning point in the game.


How about "the dagger" rather than the turning point?
It was 20-10 before (edited) the fumble - and I agree it was probably the wrong call - and KSU had reeled of 17 straight points.

And now with the UF loss, number 2 in the BCS? At least until the computers upgrade Oregon.

Its a fun year.
   1374. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:34 PM (#4285249)
Arizona got curbstomped by Oregon. They also beat Ok St by 21, and look like they're going to beat USC. The Pac 12 looks really deep right now. They also look like they don't have a true challenger to Oregon.
   1375. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:37 PM (#4285252)
I don't understand how Kansas State is as good as they are. And because of that, I think things are going to catch up with them. But they just cleaned the clock of two really solid teams.
   1376. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:37 PM (#4285253)
that was a pretty horrendous start to the 2nd half. muffed kick return, sacked for a 10 yard loss, pick 6.

on the ensuing drive, they went right down the field, but they stalled in the red zone, and ended up with just a field goal.

and then, on tOSU's first drive of the 3rd quarter, miller threw an INT. PSU still down 4, and now they're punting form tOSU's 43.


   1377. madvillain Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:43 PM (#4285254)
Nice win for Rich Rod. His offense is still ninja. Too bad his defense and special teams at Michigan were horse manure.
   1378. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4285256)
The best win USC has this year is beating a 3-5 Cal team at home. To believe this was the #1 ranked team in the country going into the year. This is why there shouldn't be rankings in the first few weeks.
   1379. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:47 PM (#4285260)
just a heads up for any coach playing penn state:

there is no such thing as offensive holding for you. feel free to clutch, grab, tackle, and chickenwing penn state players at will.
   1380. Every Inge Counts Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:48 PM (#4285261)
Auburn is proof that recruiting rankings mean squat.
   1381. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:49 PM (#4285262)
Texas beating A&M last year is one of the most satisfying wins of a team I've ever experienced.
   1382. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:50 PM (#4285263)
Steagles, a more accurate heads up for coaches playing Penn state is "it's a horseshit team that only looked like non horseshit because it played a bunch of awfully teams. When you come, don't worry about bringing your best players because you won't need them. And ps, leave the kiddies at home."
   1383. OCF Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:50 PM (#4285265)
Yeah, USC is just not all that good. They shouldn't have been a top 10 team coming into this game. How are they not all that good? They've got the skill players, and the speed, but their line play is weak, both ways. Their offensive line cannot force a running game, and their defensive line cannot stop a running game. At the end of the game, Arizona had their backup quarterback in, because the starter has a concussion. Everyone knew they were going to run - and they ran for two first downs, sucking nearly all of the time off the clock.
   1384. hokieneer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:50 PM (#4285266)
That was a really egregious holding no call on tOSU on Miller's td.
   1385. hokieneer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:56 PM (#4285269)
I won't admit to enjoying rich rod win a close game and pull of an upset, but it's nice to see usc/Barkley go down.
   1386. Mike Webber Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:57 PM (#4285270)
So now that we have seen USC lose, is tonight the last chance for Notre Dame to lose before a bowl game?
   1387. Jeff Frances the Mute Posted: October 27, 2012 at 08:00 PM (#4285272)
USC has recruited skill positions aggressively and ignored both the defensive and offensive lines the last 3 years. Also, Kiffin is a C+ coach that that is being paid like an A- coach.
   1388. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 27, 2012 at 08:02 PM (#4285275)
Steagles, a more accurate heads up for coaches playing Penn state is "it's a horseshit team that only looked like non horseshit because it played a bunch of awfully teams. When you come, don't worry about bringing your best players because you won't need them. And ps, leave the kiddies at home."
here's the thing, if you want to call penn state a horseshit team, then you should also make it a point to say that the refs should not go out of their way to tilt the field against them.


anyway, the game looks to breaking down now. tOSU is up 28-10 going into the 4th quarter, and PSU's defense looks absolutely gassed.

   1389. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 08:22 PM (#4285295)
Well, at least Kiffin lost. Like all those who love decency and justice I'm rooting for him to fail.
   1390. hokieneer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 08:30 PM (#4285307)
Watching ou move the ball so easily on nd, makes me nervous for how ugly its going to be in morgantown in a few weeks.
   1391. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 27, 2012 at 08:30 PM (#4285308)
i'll give ohio state this, regardless of the officiating and its effect on the game, that runningback has some ox in him. he breaks a ton of tackles, but even when he goes down, he always falls forward, and that's something i love to see from a ballcarrier, be it a WR, TE, QB, or RB.

   1392. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 08:35 PM (#4285311)
Notre Dame needed that.
   1393. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 27, 2012 at 08:59 PM (#4285343)
okay, in case i'm not able to get back after the game, here's a few thoughts that have nothing to do with the officiating:

1, #### the officials.

2, the game changed when penn state went to the hurry-up offense in the 3rd quarter. that was after the pick-6 which made the game 14-7, and it was after the PSU field goal the next drive, which made the game 14-10, and it was after the interception which gave PSU the ball in tOSU territory.

from there, with 8:36 left in the quarter, PSU's offense went turnover on downs and 3+out, with tOSU going 10/57-touchdown and 8/85-touchdown on the two ensuing drives. tOSU ran 18 plays in a hurry-up offense over 5 minutes, and got 14 points, taking the score to 28-10.

now, maybe penn state going to the hurry-up had no effect, but if they had broke the momentum there by, i don't know, getting a first down, the defense might not have blown up as badly as they did.

3, seriously, #### the officials.

oh, and 4, mcgloin played this game just about how i expected him to play coming into the year. he was not accurate, he was not aggressive, he was not poised, and he had been all of those things through the first 7 games of the season.

although, it may not be my place to criticize any PSU player for not being poised when i would likely have been much worse.
   1394. Every Inge Counts Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:10 PM (#4285358)
Alabama still sucks at kickoff and kickoff coverage. Still good at everything else.
   1395. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:22 PM (#4285374)
Manti T'eo is a damn good linebacker, but if he actually wins the Heisman when Suh couldn't even come close with that extraordinary 2009 season it'll be a genuine injustice.
   1396. Every Inge Counts Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:25 PM (#4285376)
Don't worry AJ McCarron got the Heisman locked up.
   1397. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:30 PM (#4285381)
Brent Musberger is a senile queef.
   1398. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:30 PM (#4285382)
ABC just missed the waving off of Oklahoma's touchdown. Well done.
   1399. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:31 PM (#4285383)
That said, they didn't even appear to announce the holding call.
   1400. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:33 PM (#4285388)
Yeah, that's really, really odd.
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