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EDIT: I didn't see any holding on the replay(at least nothing that is normally called holding) and I am rooting for ND in this game.
But a long drive like that is just as important as the points. ND is doing what they need to do.
In fairness victories over Colorado are the college football equivalent of Confederate money.
ND will have wins over 3 currently ranked teams. Oregon only gets one if Arizona becomes ranked.
MIchigan could fall out of polls with loss couldn't they?
Yeah. For some reason I thought they had already played today, and assumed they won since I would have noted if they hadn't.
I saw the replacement numbers. I assumed that Robinson got hurt. You're saying that he was consciously pulled?
Hell of a throw by the ND QB.
No, he was injured. Arm problem, not clear exactly what the issue is but the announcers have said the nerve in his arm was pinched and he couldn't grip a football.
No one ever needs to hear Musberger come on national television like that.
The last two ND coaches looked like that too once upon a time.
Homerism is bad enough. But when it's done on national television, it's way more annoying.
Chip Kelly is the Oregon coach. Brian Kelly is the Notre Dame coach.
So who do you think you are passing? Florida obviously, but Oregon or K-State?
That's not really true though. You look, for example, at Weis' resume. He never beat a team that finished in the top 25. Stanford is a solid team, and Oklahoma is probably a top 10 team. Also, Weis' best season was his first year when he basically was riding the coat tails of Willingham's recruits. And even then, the best "victory" of Weis' career is losing close to a USC team that lost to Texas in the title game. As for Willingham, well this was basically the game that Kelly would have lost by 40 if it was Willingham's team. That team got by on smoke and mirrors that season, and this ND team looks legitimately much better.
Oops. Been a long day. I read it as coach Kelly. Only 5 more hours until I can go to bed!
The coaches will see that ND beat OU by more than K-State and also see that ND has a fancy name on their jersey and bump them, despite the fact that K-State has crushed a much tougher schedule while ND skated by a few crappy Big Ten teams.
Still, big time win for ND.
Glad to see Richt pull it off today. Bama, holy cow man. I still think LSU or Georgia might get 'em, but I'm really not sure why anymore.
I'm...happy(?) to see Rich-Rod pull down a win like that. Also happy to see USC go down again. The Big East is just awful. Not sure why I thought it might be otherwise this year. The Big Ten is almost as bad, except for OSU.
No way, K-State and Oregon are beating the pants off of their opponents the same way Bama is. I have to think either of those teams could at least keep it close against Bama, if not beat them.
Re: Denard: if you saw the play, he was running for a gain and cut back and dove to the ground after mild contact, and braced himself with his right hand, which apparently jammed awkwardly and hurt his right hand.
The back up QBs in the Big Ten were just brutal. Did D OBrien know how to hand it off in Madison? WTF was that. UM's backup had nothing on his ball and the running game was really handcuffed after that. Nebraska let them hang around with their usual stupid penalties, but UM is hopeless without Denard.
LSU needs to buy a passing game before the game, I think A&M presents more of a challenge than LSU does right now for Alabama.
Back to back wins in Jacksonville are unheard of these days. (I suppose this will quell the "Fire Mark Richt" galleys for a week or two.)
I keep thinking the conference will eventually turn it around, but there was nothing today that suggested the future will be any brighter.
LSU needs to buy a passing game before the game, I think A&M presents more of a challenge than LSU does right now for Alabama.
Maybe on paper, but A&M lost to LSU at home, they aren't going to beat Bama @ Bama.
Yes but it also going to be after what I assume will be a war against LSU. I am expecting Bama to be a little beat up after the LSU game (win or lose). I guess it is more about that then Texas A&M actually.
what does oregon have to do to get some respect? they crushed arizona state last week, and got passed by K-state. then they crushed colorado today, and people are calling for them to get passed by notre dame. what happened to the good ole days, when the only way an undefeaeted team could get passed in the polls was to lose?
What days were those?in 1994 Nebraska started the season ranked #1, went undefeated, and in the process fell in the polls twice, ending the season before the Orange Bowl at #3.
That's close to what happened. Nebraska was #1, dropped for whipping West Virginia, dropped again for losing not a game, but Frazier and then Berringer to injury which left them with walk on QB 5-10 Matt Turman from Wahoo, NE (Sam Crawford's hometown) and proceeded to beat top 15 K State on the road 17-6.. After they fell to #3, behind PSU and CU, Berringer came back and they hammered CU 24-7 in Lincoln at the end of October, and then took over the top spot over PSU by 11/5 and that was it. PSU fans blame it on late TDs to Indiana , but whatever, when you take Matt Turman on the road and still handle teams, you're not going to get bumped to PSU when they allow lots of yards and points to IU, MSU and Illinois down the stretch, not to mention UO throwing for 400 yards in the Rose Bowl, while Nebraska out lasts Sapp, Ray Lewis and the Canes in their own building in the Orange Bowl.
Coming into this week, Sagarin has Kansas State's schedule rated #45 in the country and ND's at #20.
my BCS expected top 4
Bama
KSU
ND
UO
Interesting. I guess that Missouri St. & North Texas, plus Sagarin's dislike of WVU tilts the schedule in ND's favor. Not sure I buy that BYU is a top 30 team.
However, K-State's SOS will only get stronger as the season goes on.
This feels about right. The one thing I'd say is that Oregon definitely has been taking their foot off the gas in a lot of their games, which means that their MOV isn't as elite as I think it should be. I still think they're the best of the undefeateds, but Notre Dame and KSU are playing very good football as well.
It's a good thing Ohio State isn't eligible so we don't have to hear moronic arguments about them being in the title discussion.
The 2, 7, 8, 9, 11, 14, and 15 teams lost yesterday. A few of them looked pretty bad doing it.
It's hard to argue with the result, but I don't know what Texas is going to do at QB now. They opened a can of worms by benching Ash, I think. Though, I guess a more truthful way to look at is say he opened a can of worms by playing terrible against the worst team in the league.
Oregon's SOS took a big hit yesterday. Oregon St and USC lost to unranked teams. I realize they lost to teams that Oregon plays or will play, but it definitely hurts Oregon in the eyes of the voters and I think it will also hurt them in the computers.
I do think Oregon is least likely to have a let down game where they blow it. But then again, they have only played one true road game and they have three more left on the schedule. Not sure that any of the teams they play have ability to beat them, even on an off day on the road.
I think ND is the most likely unbeaten to drop one to a dog, although I don't know if they will. Pitt seems like a prime candidate for that, with just enough talent to be dangerous and a rep that will make it hard for ND to stay focused after their big win in OU.
K-State is already through their toughest competition and through the teams with a knack for pulling upsets. They are still playing a bunch of quality teams though. I don't see them losing, but it could happen.
Rutgers always manages to humiliate the Big East in an OOC. I guess if it's not losing to Tulane or Army, it's 7 turnovers against a MAC team at home.
Cincinnati should also be ashamed but at least they lost on the road. UConn is terrible, and they've now lost to Western Michigan two years in a row. That's just who they are. Losing to good MAC teams in the beginning of the season sucks, but it's something that can be recovered from. Rutger's loss yesterday was just crushing for the team and the conference. This was just like last year's UConn game, Rutger's has a serious problem handling success and this time it is really going to take a toll on the Big East. It would have been extremely realistic for the Big East to have two undefeated teams this week while the rest of the nation had five. Instead they have one, because of the MAC. That's a brutal way to lose what could have been a banner season for the conference.
You are correct! They went to OT in 2010 against Army and won by 3 and I must have filed that as a loss in my memory.
Nova was playing a lot better this year, to my surprise. I know he was a freshman last year, but I was completely unimpressed with him. If he was even marginally better last year, Rutgers beats WVU in Piscataway.
Do you think the coaches feel compelled to put someone from the Big 10 on their ballot, and there is no Ohio State to scratch that itch?
Not saying Nebraska is un-deserving, just that its a pretty big jump considering it was a home win.
LOL at Texas Tech being behind WVU in the Coaches poll.
I agree with Cowboy that Boise probably hasn't done enough to merit such a spot, but then again they probably legitimately deserved a BCS bid in the last two years so there could be some de facto justice in it (on the other hand, both years they #### the bed against a team they should have beaten years, so...)
The real bummer for Boise as a non-AQ (this "problem" will be solved next year when they join the new Big East) has been the steep cliff they fall off bowl-wise if/when they fail to make a BCS game. It's either BCS or the Las Vegas Bowl vs. the 6th place Pac-10 team. They deserved better the last two years; this year, I dunno. If they did make a BCS game, I certainly wouldn't sleep on them if they were playing a Florida State or Oklahoma, though they were certainly be underdogs.
Nice feel good story.
Notre Dame schedule strength according to Sagarin: 10
Kansas St: 30
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