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   1401. hokieneer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:33 PM (#4285389)
I'm havingbtrouble seeing that hold, no thanks to abc. Hell I have yet to even see a flag theown on a replay.
   1402. Randy Jones Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:33 PM (#4285391)
So was that the flag thrown really late or did ABC miss it? And the ref definitely never announced the penalty.

EDIT: I didn't see any holding on the replay(at least nothing that is normally called holding) and I am rooting for ND in this game.
   1403. Mike Webber Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:35 PM (#4285394)
Note to OU, gotta beat the Gold and white team and the striped team too. You've been warned.
   1404. Mike Webber Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:39 PM (#4285398)
How lucky are we, get to hear both Musberger and McCarver tonight. Hooray.
   1405. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:42 PM (#4285401)
Relevant to discussions of awkward halftime interview references to bad officiating and of Will Muschamp's sanity, check out his interview with a UF radio guy at halftime of last week's game against South Carolina. It gets hilarious at about 10 seconds in.
   1406. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:09 PM (#4285447)
Shanking that is a shame, for Notre Dame.

But a long drive like that is just as important as the points. ND is doing what they need to do.
   1407. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:12 PM (#4285452)
Notre Dame's kicker seems to line up awfully close to the ball. I wonder if that's just a matter of the camera angle different networks use.
   1408. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:16 PM (#4285455)
"Tress Way" sounds like a character in a Nicholas Sparks novel.
   1409. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:17 PM (#4285457)
With Florida losing does Notre Dame leap frog over Florida and Oregon with a win tonight and land at #3 in the polls?
   1410. nick swisher hygiene Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:18 PM (#4285458)
Florida and Oregon.....one of those teams had a better day than the other today.......
   1411. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:19 PM (#4285459)
one of those teams had a better day than the other today.......


In fairness victories over Colorado are the college football equivalent of Confederate money.
   1412. Every Inge Counts Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:20 PM (#4285462)
Supposedly a broken femur and all four knee ligaments torn for Lattimore. That is terrible, terrible news.
   1413. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:21 PM (#4285467)
Yeah, but Oregon didn't play a ranked team while if Notre Dame wins they beat Oklahoma, a ranked team.
   1414. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:24 PM (#4285473)
Wow, he just got knocked the #### out.
   1415. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:40 PM (#4285508)
Oklahoma has not brought their A game.
   1416. Dan The Mediocre Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:41 PM (#4285510)
Yeah, but Oregon didn't play a ranked team while if Notre Dame wins they beat Oklahoma, a ranked team.


ND will have wins over 3 currently ranked teams. Oregon only gets one if Arizona becomes ranked.
   1417. Mike Webber Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:42 PM (#4285514)
The offensive play calling for OU has been baffling on third downs.
   1418. Mike Webber Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:45 PM (#4285518)
ND will have wins over 3 currently ranked teams. Oregon only gets one if Arizona becomes ranked.

MIchigan could fall out of polls with loss couldn't they?
   1419. Dan The Mediocre Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:46 PM (#4285520)
MIchigan could fall out of polls with loss couldn't they?


Yeah. For some reason I thought they had already played today, and assumed they won since I would have noted if they hadn't.
   1420. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:56 PM (#4285536)
Robinson out in Lincoln and his replacement has been atrocious. Michigan defense and NU penalties keeping the game closeish, although they just scored to go up 14.

   1421. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:59 PM (#4285543)
Robinson out in Lincoln and his replacement has been atrocious. Michigan defense and NU penalties keeping the game closeish, although they just scored to go up 14.


I saw the replacement numbers. I assumed that Robinson got hurt. You're saying that he was consciously pulled?

Hell of a throw by the ND QB.
   1422. hokieneer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:01 PM (#4285546)
Hell of a play call, and throw by goldsen.
   1423. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:01 PM (#4285547)
Too much too fast!
   1424. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:03 PM (#4285556)
That was a pretty generous spot on the juggle catch. Nevertheless, that was a season defining drive.
   1425. Dan The Mediocre Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:05 PM (#4285563)
If ND had a couple decent receivers, Tyler Eifert would have monster numbers. He is just about as good as Kyle Rudolph.
   1426. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:12 PM (#4285589)
I didn't see it great, since ESPN has no interest in showing the entire play. But the receiver appeared to be mugged on that play.
   1427. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:13 PM (#4285595)
I saw the replacement numbers. I assumed that Robinson got hurt. You're saying that he was consciously pulled?


No, he was injured. Arm problem, not clear exactly what the issue is but the announcers have said the nerve in his arm was pinched and he couldn't grip a football.
   1428. Dan The Mediocre Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:14 PM (#4285597)
I don't think I could argue if they had overturned the INT. And I didn't see enough of the play to see if the WR got mugged, but he clearly thought there should have been a flag.
   1429. hokieneer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:14 PM (#4285598)
I thought so too spivey. Haven't went back on the dvr yet to look
   1430. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:18 PM (#4285606)
Could ESPN/ABC root more for Notre Dame?
   1431. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:18 PM (#4285607)
Well that's probably game.
   1432. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4285612)
Chip Kelly is looking like he could have this job for a long time.
   1433. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4285617)
Why in ####'s name did Clay catch that?
   1434. nick swisher hygiene Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:21 PM (#4285618)
man, living in OK you would think I could become a Sooner fan, but this is such an underachieving, mentally weak football team--they are just very hard to like.
   1435. hokieneer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:21 PM (#4285619)
Why did he catch that and why arent the announcers even questioning it?
   1436. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:21 PM (#4285621)
It does seem like the only time that Oklahoma ever gets up for a football game is when they play Texas.
   1437. hokieneer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:26 PM (#4285636)
I went back and looked at the int.... I couldn't really tell how early the contact was because of the camera angle. It certainly didn't look clean.
   1438. nick swisher hygiene Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:26 PM (#4285637)
....but I will temporarily don the Sooner mantle and apologize to the rest of America for tonight's shitshow and for "Notre Dame being relevant again"--sorry, America: we let you guys down....
   1439. Every Inge Counts Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4285645)
Looking forward to Alabama teabagging Notre Dame in the title game.
   1440. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4285648)
I have to give ND a lot of credit for this win. But when you compare them to KSU and Oregon, I just don't think they're as good. Oregon I think is a better team, with a worse schedule. KSU is a similarly talented team with a better schedule. Still a lot of football left, but I think Oregon is going to win out. KSU and Notre Dame, that remains to be seen.
   1441. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:31 PM (#4285654)
....but I will temporarily don the Sooner mantle and apologize to the rest of America for tonight's shitshow and for "Notre Dame being relevant again"--sorry, America: we let you guys down....


No one ever needs to hear Musberger come on national television like that.
   1442. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:31 PM (#4285655)
Are they relivent yet?
   1443. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4285659)
That is what you call a convincing win! #3 in the nation!
   1444. hokieneer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4285662)
Brent and kirk a little too excited about notre dame. They are making it easy to hate nd.
   1445. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4285665)
Chip Kelly is looking like he could have this job for a long time.

The last two ND coaches looked like that too once upon a time.
   1446. Dan The Mediocre Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:36 PM (#4285674)
Brent and kirk a little too excited about notre dame. They are making it easy to hate nd.


Homerism is bad enough. But when it's done on national television, it's way more annoying.
   1447. Randy Jones Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:38 PM (#4285675)
Chip Kelly is looking like he could have this job for a long time.

The last two ND coaches looked like that too once upon a time.


Chip Kelly is the Oregon coach. Brian Kelly is the Notre Dame coach.
   1448. Mike Webber Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:39 PM (#4285676)
That is what you call a convincing win! #3 in the nation!

So who do you think you are passing? Florida obviously, but Oregon or K-State?
   1449. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:44 PM (#4285680)
I think ND will leapfrog Oregon.
   1450. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:44 PM (#4285681)
The last two ND coaches looked like that too once upon a time.


That's not really true though. You look, for example, at Weis' resume. He never beat a team that finished in the top 25. Stanford is a solid team, and Oklahoma is probably a top 10 team. Also, Weis' best season was his first year when he basically was riding the coat tails of Willingham's recruits. And even then, the best "victory" of Weis' career is losing close to a USC team that lost to Texas in the title game. As for Willingham, well this was basically the game that Kelly would have lost by 40 if it was Willingham's team. That team got by on smoke and mirrors that season, and this ND team looks legitimately much better.
   1451. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:45 PM (#4285682)
Chip Kelly is the Oregon coach. Brian Kelly is the Notre Dame coach.

Oops. Been a long day. I read it as coach Kelly. Only 5 more hours until I can go to bed!
   1452. nick swisher hygiene Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:45 PM (#4285683)
1488--the assumption is that wins over Michigan and Michigan St are better than wins over unranked Pac-12 teams, I guess--but no way in hell I'd rank them higher than #4.
   1453. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:47 PM (#4285685)
I would put them top 3 that defense is nasty no one can stop the run and golson took a big step forward
   1454. hokieneer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:47 PM (#4285686)
So is bama 2 td favorites vs. the field right now in the bcs champ game.
   1455. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM (#4285688)
So who do you think you are passing? Florida obviously, but Oregon or K-State?

The coaches will see that ND beat OU by more than K-State and also see that ND has a fancy name on their jersey and bump them, despite the fact that K-State has crushed a much tougher schedule while ND skated by a few crappy Big Ten teams.

Still, big time win for ND.

Glad to see Richt pull it off today. Bama, holy cow man. I still think LSU or Georgia might get 'em, but I'm really not sure why anymore.

I'm...happy(?) to see Rich-Rod pull down a win like that. Also happy to see USC go down again. The Big East is just awful. Not sure why I thought it might be otherwise this year. The Big Ten is almost as bad, except for OSU.
   1456. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:54 PM (#4285690)
So is bama 2 td favorites vs. the field right now in the bcs champ game.

No way, K-State and Oregon are beating the pants off of their opponents the same way Bama is. I have to think either of those teams could at least keep it close against Bama, if not beat them.
   1457. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:54 PM (#4285692)
I buy that, probably -13 right now.

Re: Denard: if you saw the play, he was running for a gain and cut back and dove to the ground after mild contact, and braced himself with his right hand, which apparently jammed awkwardly and hurt his right hand.

The back up QBs in the Big Ten were just brutal. Did D OBrien know how to hand it off in Madison? WTF was that. UM's backup had nothing on his ball and the running game was really handcuffed after that. Nebraska let them hang around with their usual stupid penalties, but UM is hopeless without Denard.
   1458. Every Inge Counts Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:56 PM (#4285693)
I think Oregon presents Alabama a challenge, but Alabama smokes Kansas State.


LSU needs to buy a passing game before the game, I think A&M presents more of a challenge than LSU does right now for Alabama.
   1459. Spivey Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:57 PM (#4285695)
I'd bet the farm on Alabama -14 against ND and KSU. I'd bet on Oregon if you gave me 14. Oregon is just so fast and furious. I think they have a level of talent and speed that I don't know that anyone can deal with.
   1460. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:57 PM (#4285696)
Glad to see Richt pull it off today.


Back to back wins in Jacksonville are unheard of these days. (I suppose this will quell the "Fire Mark Richt" galleys for a week or two.)
   1461. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:11 AM (#4285702)
The back up QBs in the Big Ten were just brutal.

I keep thinking the conference will eventually turn it around, but there was nothing today that suggested the future will be any brighter.

LSU needs to buy a passing game before the game, I think A&M presents more of a challenge than LSU does right now for Alabama.

Maybe on paper, but A&M lost to LSU at home, they aren't going to beat Bama @ Bama.
   1462. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:14 AM (#4285704)
This ASU team is terribly confusing. Will Sutton, apparently, was the indispensable man on D.
   1463. Every Inge Counts Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM (#4285706)
Maybe on paper, but A&M lost to LSU at home, they aren't going to beat Bama @ Bama.


Yes but it also going to be after what I assume will be a war against LSU. I am expecting Bama to be a little beat up after the LSU game (win or lose). I guess it is more about that then Texas A&M actually.
   1464. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM (#4285708)
Supposedly a broken femur and all four knee ligaments torn for Lattimore. That is terrible, terrible news.
that's not terribly surprising. with the way his leg was flopping on the replay, i had a feeling that there was a bone fracture there and not just ligament damage. i was thinking it would be the tibia or fibula, but the femur? oh, that's gruesome.
I think ND will leapfrog Oregon.
what does oregon have to do to get some respect? they crushed arizona state last week, and got passed by K-state. then they crushed colorado today, and people are calling for them to get passed by notre dame. what happened to the good ole days, when the only way an undefeaeted team could get passed in the polls was to lose?
   1465. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:24 AM (#4285713)
what happened to the good ole days, when the only way an undefeaeted team could get passed in the polls was to lose?


What days were those?in 1994 Nebraska started the season ranked #1, went undefeated, and in the process fell in the polls twice, ending the season before the Orange Bowl at #3.
   1466. Spivey Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:25 AM (#4285715)
I realize the Oregon isn't an NFL team. But if you put an NFL team in college, in a fairly weak conference, I would hope everyone would grant they're the best team in football even if they didn't have the best SOS. And that's why I think Oregon needs more respect than they get - they're destroying everyone they play. The main reason their MOV stats aren't even better is because they take the foot off the gas around the second quarter.
   1467. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:36 AM (#4285719)
What days were those?in 1994 Nebraska started the season ranked #1, went undefeated, and in the process fell in the polls twice, ending the season before the Orange Bowl at #3.


That's close to what happened. Nebraska was #1, dropped for whipping West Virginia, dropped again for losing not a game, but Frazier and then Berringer to injury which left them with walk on QB 5-10 Matt Turman from Wahoo, NE (Sam Crawford's hometown) and proceeded to beat top 15 K State on the road 17-6.. After they fell to #3, behind PSU and CU, Berringer came back and they hammered CU 24-7 in Lincoln at the end of October, and then took over the top spot over PSU by 11/5 and that was it. PSU fans blame it on late TDs to Indiana , but whatever, when you take Matt Turman on the road and still handle teams, you're not going to get bumped to PSU when they allow lots of yards and points to IU, MSU and Illinois down the stretch, not to mention UO throwing for 400 yards in the Rose Bowl, while Nebraska out lasts Sapp, Ray Lewis and the Canes in their own building in the Orange Bowl.
   1468. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:51 AM (#4285723)
of course, wild football in the PAC12. UW has a D TD called back, for a PF way away from the ball. OSU and UW knotted up at 10 still.
   1469. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:56 AM (#4285724)
despite the fact that K-State has crushed a much tougher schedule

Coming into this week, Sagarin has Kansas State's schedule rated #45 in the country and ND's at #20.
   1470. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:06 AM (#4285728)
And the cherry on top of beating oklahoma by more. And they win the common opponets with that
   1471. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:07 AM (#4285730)
in case you're wondering, USC's Marquise Lee's 16 catches for 347 yards and 2TDs, is not the best effort in a losing effort. Troy Edwards on La Tech had 21 catches for 405 yards and 3 TDs, in a 56-27 loss to Nebraska in 1998.
   1472. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:10 AM (#4285733)
I don't disagree with sagarin schedule ratings, but the voters are 2/3rds, and they sure like KSU routing WVA at Morgantown, and drilling TT, and beating OU at Norman, more than they like ND at this moment. Of course, this is before seeing the vote on Sunday.
   1473. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:11 AM (#4285734)
Tulo I think with the strength of schedule annd the bigger win in norman nd should be ahead of kstate
   1474. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:13 AM (#4285735)
Ok, does Chizik survive? 670 yards, 63 points at home to A&M, games vs UGA and Bama to come?
   1475. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:16 AM (#4285736)
I'm not disagreeing, though the ND and KSU wins both seemed quite similar to me, meaning OU had chances to win in the 4th qtr, despite the margin of victory, which of course the computers can't consider for dumb ass reasons.
   1476. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:17 AM (#4285738)
Oregon State doing their Cardinals impression.
   1477. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:35 AM (#4285741)
but even the Cards managed to lose. UDub wins.

my BCS expected top 4
Bama
KSU
ND
UO
   1478. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:47 AM (#4285743)
My hopefull top 4 has ksu and nd flipped
   1479. Spivey Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:50 AM (#4285744)
I think that KSU's schedule is going to catch up on ND by the end of the year. They've already played Kansas, so every game they play is going to substantially increase their SOS. Although, that cuts both ways. I still think they're going to struggle to win out.
   1480. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:53 AM (#4285745)
Coming into this week, Sagarin has Kansas State's schedule rated #45 in the country and ND's at #20.

Interesting. I guess that Missouri St. & North Texas, plus Sagarin's dislike of WVU tilts the schedule in ND's favor. Not sure I buy that BYU is a top 30 team.

However, K-State's SOS will only get stronger as the season goes on.
   1481. Spivey Posted: October 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM (#4285803)
Sagarin's ratings are updated this morning. He thinks ND is the legit #2, roughly a 6 point dog to Alabama. KSU is 3, a point worse than ND. Oregon is 4th, roughly 2 points worse than KSU.

This feels about right. The one thing I'd say is that Oregon definitely has been taking their foot off the gas in a lot of their games, which means that their MOV isn't as elite as I think it should be. I still think they're the best of the undefeateds, but Notre Dame and KSU are playing very good football as well.

It's a good thing Ohio State isn't eligible so we don't have to hear moronic arguments about them being in the title discussion.

The 2, 7, 8, 9, 11, 14, and 15 teams lost yesterday. A few of them looked pretty bad doing it.

It's hard to argue with the result, but I don't know what Texas is going to do at QB now. They opened a can of worms by benching Ash, I think. Though, I guess a more truthful way to look at is say he opened a can of worms by playing terrible against the worst team in the league.
   1482. Spivey Posted: October 28, 2012 at 10:35 AM (#4285808)
Oregon's backup RB, De'Anthony Thomas, averages 9.7 YPC for his career.
   1483. Spivey Posted: October 28, 2012 at 10:36 AM (#4285810)
Also, in the ###### up computer polls department, Alabama is ranked 7th in Sagarin's Elo Chess.
   1484. Spivey Posted: October 28, 2012 at 10:39 AM (#4285812)
Chizik is the worst head coach to ever win a title, but then again I don't think anyone found that Auburn title team to be a particularly well coached team.
   1485. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 28, 2012 at 10:52 AM (#4285815)
Oh Rutgers...they break my heart every year. At least it wasn't a Big East game...and no the golden flashes aren't that bad, but the loss really looks horrible. Six ####### interceptions? How do you not sit the kid down after the fourth or so?
   1486. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 28, 2012 at 10:58 AM (#4285817)
The one thing I'd say is that Oregon definitely has been taking their foot off the gas in a lot of their games, which means that their MOV isn't as elite as I think it should be. I still think they're the best of the undefeateds, but Notre Dame and KSU are playing very good football as well.

Oregon's SOS took a big hit yesterday. Oregon St and USC lost to unranked teams. I realize they lost to teams that Oregon plays or will play, but it definitely hurts Oregon in the eyes of the voters and I think it will also hurt them in the computers.

I do think Oregon is least likely to have a let down game where they blow it. But then again, they have only played one true road game and they have three more left on the schedule. Not sure that any of the teams they play have ability to beat them, even on an off day on the road.

I think ND is the most likely unbeaten to drop one to a dog, although I don't know if they will. Pitt seems like a prime candidate for that, with just enough talent to be dangerous and a rep that will make it hard for ND to stay focused after their big win in OU.

K-State is already through their toughest competition and through the teams with a knack for pulling upsets. They are still playing a bunch of quality teams though. I don't see them losing, but it could happen.
   1487. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 28, 2012 at 10:58 AM (#4285818)
By the way...that is six wins over BCS schools for the MAC.
   1488. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 28, 2012 at 10:59 AM (#4285820)
At least it wasn't a Big East game...and no the golden flashes aren't that bad, but the loss really looks horrible.

Rutgers always manages to humiliate the Big East in an OOC. I guess if it's not losing to Tulane or Army, it's 7 turnovers against a MAC team at home.
   1489. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:03 AM (#4285827)
Well we aren't alone. Cincy lost to Toledo. UConn lost to Western Michigan. And as that goes, penn state, iowa, and indiana all lost to MAC teams this year. Oh well...Orange Bowl still there for the taking.
   1490. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:08 AM (#4285828)
Well we aren't alone. Cincy lost to Toledo. UConn lost to Western Michigan.

Cincinnati should also be ashamed but at least they lost on the road. UConn is terrible, and they've now lost to Western Michigan two years in a row. That's just who they are. Losing to good MAC teams in the beginning of the season sucks, but it's something that can be recovered from. Rutger's loss yesterday was just crushing for the team and the conference. This was just like last year's UConn game, Rutger's has a serious problem handling success and this time it is really going to take a toll on the Big East. It would have been extremely realistic for the Big East to have two undefeated teams this week while the rest of the nation had five. Instead they have one, because of the MAC. That's a brutal way to lose what could have been a banner season for the conference.
   1491. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:08 AM (#4285829)
Oh and I don't remember losing to Army. We did lose to FIU though...and Navy. The worst has to be 2004 when we upset Michigan State to go to 2-0 to start the year then prompty lost the next game at home to mighty New Hampshire. Rutgers hasn't scheduled a CAA team since.
   1492. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM (#4285830)
Cowboy...everything you just said is true. I need a drink.
   1493. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:13 AM (#4285832)
Oh and I don't remember losing to Army.

You are correct! They went to OT in 2010 against Army and won by 3 and I must have filed that as a loss in my memory.
   1494. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:23 AM (#4285837)
That was the game Eric Legrand broke his neck. So pretty much a horrible devestating loss no matter how you slice it.
   1495. hokieneer Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM (#4285890)
As I've kept one eye on the BE conference (force of habit), I guess I'm on board with hoping Louisville wins the conference. Nothing more than selfish reasons of wanting them to possibly get a B12 invite sometime in the future. I'd like for WVU to have at least one regional rival in the conference. I have no idea who would be the second team to join with L'ville, haven't thought that far ahead.

Six ####### interceptions? How do you not sit the kid down after the fourth or so?


Nova was playing a lot better this year, to my surprise. I know he was a freshman last year, but I was completely unimpressed with him. If he was even marginally better last year, Rutgers beats WVU in Piscataway.
   1496. Mike Webber Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:42 PM (#4285975)
Nebraska jumps into the coaches poll at 21 after being unranked last week and defeating Michigan. Jumping over Spivey's UT.

Do you think the coaches feel compelled to put someone from the Big 10 on their ballot, and there is no Ohio State to scratch that itch?

Not saying Nebraska is un-deserving, just that its a pretty big jump considering it was a home win.
   1497. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 28, 2012 at 02:09 PM (#4286002)
Boise is in the top 14, for no particular reason. They could be BCS busters this year, despite losing to a mediocre team and beating nobody. It's a real shame that this team might succeed where those legitimately good Kellen Moore teams failed.

LOL at Texas Tech being behind WVU in the Coaches poll.
   1498. VoodooR Posted: October 28, 2012 at 02:44 PM (#4286029)
Yup, Boise State looks to have a real path to the BCS this year by winning out. Even if they don't get into the BCS top 12, if they are in the top 16 and finish ahead of the Big East or Big Ten Champ, they get an auto bid to the BCS. If either Louisville or Nebraska loses again, and BSU wins out, they are likely in a BCS game.

I agree with Cowboy that Boise probably hasn't done enough to merit such a spot, but then again they probably legitimately deserved a BCS bid in the last two years so there could be some de facto justice in it (on the other hand, both years they #### the bed against a team they should have beaten years, so...)

The real bummer for Boise as a non-AQ (this "problem" will be solved next year when they join the new Big East) has been the steep cliff they fall off bowl-wise if/when they fail to make a BCS game. It's either BCS or the Las Vegas Bowl vs. the 6th place Pac-10 team. They deserved better the last two years; this year, I dunno. If they did make a BCS game, I certainly wouldn't sleep on them if they were playing a Florida State or Oklahoma, though they were certainly be underdogs.
   1499. hokieneer Posted: October 28, 2012 at 03:08 PM (#4286042)
Former mountaineer Will Johnson just caught a td for the Steelers. Johnson is a good athlete for a fb/te and was criminally underused at wvu. He went undrafted in 2011 and didn't get any invites because of the lockout. He spent a year working three jobs and staying in shape. Holgerson let him come to the wvu 2012 pro day where he put up 30 reps and ran a 4.5. The Steelers signed him that day.

Nice feel good story.
   1500. Quaker Posted: October 28, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4286062)
KSU is a similarly talented team with a better schedule.


Notre Dame schedule strength according to Sagarin: 10
Kansas St: 30
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