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Thursday, August 30, 2012
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Not really using the game, just from what I have seen from the past couple of weeks. Florida has looked a lot more explosive on offense...if it is just the opponents then so be it. They had a good defense no matter what. Plus the game is at the Swamp. To me the game has gone from "eh should be decent" to "this might be a pretty good one."
Fine. Pretty good, I'm not going to quibble on the vague description. So Florida is a ~15ish team based on how teams did against A&M last year, before we adjust for the fact that A&M lost their top-10 pick QB.
602 - Alright, like I said, I'm not going to fight over vague descriptions. Sure. It might be a good one.
It was WSU's Homecoming weekend, too.
edit: too slow.
I mean, take the damn penalties. Your extra point attempt goes from 19 yards to 24. Those timeouts are valuable items.
Again why I think the LSU-Florida game will be a good one, but perhaps Auburn will render it moot anyway.
I mean, take the damn penalties. Your extra point attempt goes from 19 yards to 24. Those timeouts are valuable items.
Football Outsiders has been beating this drum for a long time. I think QBs would rather burn the timeout than be embarrassed by the penalty.
At Canes, At VT, UF in Tallahassee left of note for FSU.
Seriously. What a win, at Norman. Nice pay back for last year. I would be very excited about WVU's chances if they hadn't looked so freaking bad today.
I'm also on board with thinking FSU might actually be something this year. That teamed looked incredible in the second half and physically, it's hard to think that any team in the ACC could match up with them.
After watching LSU play today, I'm pretty sure Alabama stands alone as the best team in the nation. Oregon or FSU might be a real contender, but LSU didn't look like it. I doubt anyone in the Big 12 is at this point.
I didn't watch any of the Oregon game, but that's pretty amazing that they rolled Arizona like that. I'm not surprised LSU struggled. It's hard to be one of the best teams in the country if your offense sucks. Unless you just pull a couple of touchdowns out of your ass on special teams every week like they did last year.
I was downtown in Big 10 country, so pretty much every place was focused on the Notre Dame/Michigan game. It was pretty poorly played. I'm really impressed KSU was able to do what they did. I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised, the way they destroyed Miami, but I felt their offense was a bit gimmicky and wouldn't stand up against a good team. But credit to them.
If Nova can do what he did yesterday against the Big East, it could be a big time season for Rutgers. Looks like it's them, the Ville and maybe Cincy and Pitt at the top. The rest of the conference looks terrible and Rutgers already has a win. Good start for Flood.
And then manhandled VA Tech. They may have taken a couple of games to figure everything out.
but wisky still has a lot to figure out. go get'em badgers
UGA.
This early in the season they are partly based on 2011 results. Alabama has looked great this year but they are alao getting credit for being the beast team in the country last season.
Right now Alabama just has not been challenged. Notre Dame got gifted 4 turnovers by Michigan and could only win 13-6 (at Notre Dame). Florida State and Oregon have both been impressive so far in their big wins.
Now, I'm left rooting for Sooners and Trojans... oh my.
Like soap operas, college football is always better when its various 'villains' play a prominent role. You can only have so many summertime young fresh face plots. Ultimately the 'helmet' schools need to perform, and if that means we all have to remember how to hate on ND again, so be it.
I almost agree with this, where are they losing? home vs Stanford (I really can't wait to watch that one, pretty even) @ OU (most likely though KSU really made OU look vulnerable in Norman no less), @ USC (I disagree, great matchup for ND in my opinion).
Obviously pretty healthy favorites vs Da U, Pitt, BYU at BC and Wake.
The SEC Championship game between Bama and either Georgia or South Carolina is going to be awesome. I really don't think Florida would be anything more than a bump in the road for the Tide.
I almost agree with this, where are they losing? home vs Stanford (I really can't wait to watch that one, pretty even) @ OU (most likely though KSU really made OU look vulnerable in Norman no less), @ USC (I disagree, great matchup for ND in my opinion).
They could lose any of these games, plus Miami or Pitt. Because their offense is so inconsistent, they are going to have a thin margin for error. Maybe Kelly will get the offense soon, but now, they look beatable, if still pretty darn good.
That's true, but they would have the deepest schedule in the country. At 11-1 they will have beaten a lot of bowl teams and ten BCS conference teams. It will really depend on the PAC-12 champ, Big 12 champ and FSU. 11-1 won't let them jump an 11-1 Oregon or FSU (for no reason whatsoever) or Texas (doubt it, but it could happen) but would probably get them in ahead of an 11-1 WVU or K-State.
The real question (IMO, of course) is what happens if Louisville goes undefeated and there aren't two undefeated BCS conference schools? They don't have a ranked team on the schedule until they visit Rutgers at the end of the year. It's weird to think that game might have big national title consequences.
Is it that weird? The same game had huge National Title consequences as recently as 2006. Had Louisville won that game, they would have gone to the title game. Had Rutgers won out after winning, they would have at least been in the conversation, sitting between 3 and 6 in the polls.
Some noteworthy games this week:
Texas @ OK St. - I have no idea how good OK St. really is.
Baylor @ WVU - Should be a shootout and we might see WV tested for the first time this season.
Ohio St. @ MSU - Might not be many points to go around in this one.
Wisco @ Nebraska - The Badgers could really use a win here.
Tenn. @ Georgia - Tenn. is another team that's still kind of a mystery to me right now.
FSU @ S Fl - I believe FSU lost this game last season. Of course Wake Forest upset them in 2011 and was dominated this year.
Stanford @ Washington - Tonight's game; I don't expect it to be exciting but I will probably watch it anyway.
It's weird because neither team is any good, not because the Big East has never had a good team. I can't imagine Louisville would score against Alabama or LSU, and the real question against Oregon would be whether or not they gave up 50.
UNC had a great shot at beating Louisville at Louisville, after the Heels played like absolute crap for a half. As a Carolina fan my rule of thumb is that if UNC has a 1st and goal with a chance to beat you at the end of a game then you have no business playing for a national championship.
It's weird because neither team is any good, not because the Big East has never had a good team. I can't imagine Louisville would score against Alabama or LSU, and the real question against Oregon would be whether or not they gave up 50.
What a ridiculous overstatement. They would get crushed by Alabama but I guarantee you either team would be competitive with LSU or Oregon, two decidedly overrated teams. Didn't LSU just barely beat crappy Auburn?
Secondly, both Rutgers and Louisville have earned their rankings. Rutgers has 3 road wins including beating Arkansas in Fayeteville (WITH THEIR ALL CONFERENCE QUARTERBACK) by two scores.
Well, they are both 4-0 and 1-0 against the SEC :)
I don't think they are good, especially defensively. The second half against Arizona was embarrassing. Still, I'm excited to see how this game shakes out.
Baylor @ WVU - Should be a shootout and we might see WV tested for the first time this season.
I am seriously anxious about this game, especially after watching Stephon Diggs (a true freshman) tear apart WVU's secondary last week.
Wisco @ Nebraska - The Badgers could really use a win here.
I'll be surprised if they get it. Nebraska isn't a world beater, but they should be able to outscore the Badgers at home.
Tenn. @ Georgia - Tenn. is another team that's still kind of a mystery to me right now.
Dawgs, by like, 30.
Stanford @ Washington - Tonight's game; I don't expect it to be exciting but I will probably watch it anyway.
I am shocked at how close it is right now. Although Stanford looks like they are about to score again.
Secondly, both Rutgers and Louisville have earned their rankings. Rutgers has 3 road wins including beating Arkansas in Fayeteville (WITH THEIR ALL CONFERENCE QUARTERBACK) by two scores.
I'm inclined to think Rutgers is better than Louisville right now. People seem to be under the impression that the Ville is more talented than Rutgers, but IIRC, their recruiting has been pretty similar. That Arkansas win was pretty good. I'm guessing Arkansas beats some SEC teams now that Wilson is back. Meanwhile Louisville has crushed two horrible teams and played poor games against teams they should have crushed.
Rutgers-LSU would be interesting. Rutgers' D is good enough to keep them in the game. I don't think they would win, because LSU would just wear down their fast, undersized defense, but I don't think Rutgers would be embarrassed.
How do your tailbacks look this year? I'm hoping Ash is something of a mirage since WVU looks like they have the front seven to handle the run and their secondary is soft, sloppy, young and possibly insanely stupid.
They're good, but they're not that good. I think a lot of teams could play them close, and I don't know that they should be a big favorite over a team like Oregon. They'll be able to run down Oregon's throat, but I think their defense would likely struggle against Oregon. This is likely to be the championship game, so we may very well get to see.
Good and very deep. Malcolm Brown is extremely talented and the rest of the guys are solid too, and all have their role. Ash can run as well. This will be one of the biggest wins of Ash's career on the road though (second to probably the A&M game last year, which was won solely by the defense). I'm interested to see how the defense does. There's talent in the back 7 but also inconsistency, and the front 4 is probably the best in the country. They'll be able to rush the passer. But Ok St apparently throws for 380 yards/game and runs for 300 yards/game. I realize they've played teams without defenses, but those are impressive numbers nonetheless.
Clemson is better than any team Alabama's beaten.
I can't say I'm surprised, they looked extremely promising last year. Mack Brown's SEC makeover has been a fascinating development to track, I look forward to seeing them play in the conference.
But Ok St apparently throws for 380 yards/game and runs for 300 yards/game. I realize they've played teams without defenses, but those are impressive numbers nonetheless.
I think as long as Gundy is there, they will have a potent offense. I think that's just the nature of the program now. But I'm not sure they enough in the other facets to do much damage in the conference this year. I'm excited to see the game though, we will know a lot more about both teams after it. And then you guys play basically the same schemes again the next week.
Clemson is better than any team Alabama's beaten.
Agreed. Since I've given up on WVU being capable of running through the Big 12 after the title game, I would enjoy seeing either Oregon or FSU take on Bama, assuming they can beat the Georgia/USCe winner.
Edit: And Washington strips Nunes and gets the ball around the Stanford 35!
I'll have you know that since Pitt moved off campus to the Steelers' stadium, it's been home to such glorious and not soul-crushing at all games as:
Pitt 41, Furman 38
Pitt 14, Connecticut 34
Pitt 45, Navy 48
Pitt 17, Bowling Green 27
Pitt 26, Buffalo 17
(the Toledo and Ohio losses were away, I now discover)
Wake up!
Yeah, and if pigs could fly our houses would be covered in pigshit.
Also not true. ND doesn't have that kind of prestige anymore -- they'd finish behind an undefeated Oregon, for sure.
Also not true. ND doesn't have that kind of prestige anymore -- they'd finish behind an undefeated Oregon, for sure.
I'm not sure why. Notre Dame's schedule is much tougher.
Actually, I agree that ND's schedule is tougher. But the odds that they make it through undefeated are vanishingly small.
Sporcle strikes again.
Husky Stadium is one of the most scenic stadiums, anywhere. Couldn't find a recent pic from the correct angle, but Mount Rainier is in full glory at about the 2:00 angle of this shot. Which you can see here, kinda. Or you can see a corner of the stadium from this shot; I used to live in the dorm adjacent to the one this was taken from, and this was pretty much my view for a couple years, except with a lot more of the lake from the previous shot.
They'd better not screw up the renovation.
I HATE hearing #### like that 20 min before kickoff. If I wasn't nervous enough. I mean eventually Baylor is going to win some of those games...
Oh yeah, Geno Smith is pretty unbelievable.
AND HOW WAS THAT TD NOT CALLED BACK??
Personally, I'm not a big fan of these types of games. When you get into games like these (which I'm sure WVU will be in for the remainder of the season in the B12), every dropped pass, every failed 3rd down conversion feels like the biggest play of the game (let's not even factor in turnovers). I guess it makes the games exciting, but it's just a different type of excitement than I'm used to.
WVU getting the Welcome to the League treatment.
Holy crap! What in the.. how did they... What the hell are Baylor and WVU doing?
Wait, why are they on a football field?
Edit: already allowed over SEVEN HUNDRED YARDS?
I think it was correct to not call back the last second touchdown for Baylor. Your entire body has to be over the line, AFAIK.
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