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Thursday, August 30, 2012

OT: Sept 2012 Regular Season NFL Football Thread

New season, new threads.

First game is next Wed., on Sept. 5th, Cowboys vs Giants at Metlife Stadium in New York.

Tripon Posted: August 30, 2012 at 07:32 PM | 591 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: September 09, 2012 at 09:57 AM (#4230843)
Bear down, Chicago Bears, make every play clear the way to victory.
Bear down, Chicago Bears, put up a fight with a might so fearlessly.
We'll never forget the way you thrilled the nation with your T formation.
Bear down, Chicago Bears, and let them know why you're wearing the crown.
You're the pride and joy of Illinois, Chicago Bears, Bear down
   102. clowns to the left of me; STEAGLES to the right Posted: September 09, 2012 at 11:57 AM (#4230918)
okay, with the eagles game starting in a little while, here are a few things i'd like to see:

*blitzing. lots and lots of blitzing. i know the eagles figure that they can get a ton of pressure from their front 4, but here's the thing, if all you do is bring those 4 lineman every play, that allows the opposing QB to get into a rhythm. you may still get pressure, you may still get sacks, but you won't get in that guy's head. on the other hand, if he never knows where the pressure is coming from, he's gonna have a long, long day.

*vick: 60 yards rushing. i hear a ton of talk about how they want him to be a pocket QB, but i think that's horseshit. him making plays downfield with his legs opens up a ton of room for the receivers, for the running backs, and for his arm. it also really neuters the opposing pass rush, since they'd have to maintain lane integrity to prevent vick fro gashing them on the ground.

*defense: 3 takeaways. with the way the rules are setup in the NFL now, there really is no way that you can consistently stop a great offense from scoring. the three most critical aspects of having a successful defense are limiting offenses to 3 points in the redzone, getting off the field on third down, and taking the ball away. since the eagles will almost certainly be terrible at those first two, i'm putting all my eggs in the third basket.

*mccoy: 100 yards rushing, brown, polk: 40 yards rushing combined. if you add vick's 60, to these two goals, that adds up to 200 yards on the ground. that might be a bit lofty as a goal, but it should be doable.
   103. clowns to the left of me; STEAGLES to the right Posted: September 09, 2012 at 03:02 PM (#4231038)
so far:

the eagles haven't sacked weeden, but they've also held him to 7/19 for 68 yards and 2 interceptions.

vick has run for 27 yards, but he really hasn't done a good job of breaking the pocket when there's pressure. he should really make much more of an effort to gain yards with his legs. in addition, he's done a somewhat better job of throwing the ball away when there's nothing open. his interception was an exception to that, and he's also made some questionable throws against the blitz. overall, he's played pretty well considering his lack of preseason exposure. 17/28 for 200 yards in the half.

turnovers: coleman and DRC with interceptions. vick was also intercepted and mccoy lost a fumble.

and mccoy has run for 50 yards on 7 carries. he actually touched the ball much more often than that, but those plays were negated by about a half a dozen holding calls.



also, kendricks and ryans look like real players. kendricks' hit separated the ball from a receiver on coleman's redzone interception, and ryans has been a beast stuffing the run.
   104. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: September 09, 2012 at 03:34 PM (#4231050)
very ugly start for the bears today
   105. hokieneer Posted: September 09, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4231054)
First punt of the day in kc came with 7 min left.
   106. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 09, 2012 at 03:43 PM (#4231058)
browns?
   107. JJ1986 Posted: September 09, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4231062)
Blaine Gabbert just hit a 39-yard game winning TD.

edit: or not.
   108. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 09, 2012 at 03:55 PM (#4231064)
like i wrote

browns???
   109. clowns to the left of me; STEAGLES to the right Posted: September 09, 2012 at 04:00 PM (#4231067)
browns?
PHI: 5 turnovers
PHI: 12 penalties for 110 yards

   110. JJ1986 Posted: September 09, 2012 at 04:03 PM (#4231068)
Are all the INTs Vick's fault?
   111. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 09, 2012 at 04:20 PM (#4231077)
jj

i only saw highlights. one was a tip on what was a poor pass anyway. 2 looked to be poor decisions.

on the fumble the guy was going left and the pursuit was behind him and mccoy reversed field he ran right into the pursuit and the ball came loose
   112. Every Inge Counts Posted: September 09, 2012 at 04:30 PM (#4231078)
Lions doing what they do best under Stafford, playing ugly in the 1st half and coming back to win the game.
   113. clowns to the left of me; STEAGLES to the right Posted: September 09, 2012 at 04:58 PM (#4231084)
Are all the INTs Vick's fault?
pretty much.

weeden was just an absolute steaming turd. 12/35 for 118 yards with 4 interceptions. it's hard to imagine a worse possible line for a quarterback. 5.1 QB rating.

their running game was almost non-existent as well. trent richardson had 39 yards on 19 carries. again, terrible.

as pointed out above, the eagles turned the ball over 5 times, they were penalized 12 times for 110 yards. that's just an atrocious showing.

also of note, the eagles did not have a single rushing attempt in the 3rd quarter.

also of note, the eagles were credited with only 2 sacks. considering the overall dominance by that unit today, that's not a huge worry going into week 2, but i'd really like to see some gamebreaking plays from that front 4.


the turnovers and penalties were a continuation of the team's failings from last year, but one other troubling carryover is the offensive playcalling. they really were way too cute with their passing game, trying to do all of that timing based west coast ####. i know that's where reid's roots are, but with this offense, you need to stretch the defense vertically with maclin, jackson, and celek to open up room in the middle of the field for mccoy, avant, and celek. every play can't be a 75 yard bomb, but if you threaten the defense with that possibility every time vick drops back, the offense becomes unstoppable.


i guess we'll have to wait to see what happens next week against baltimore.
   114. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: September 09, 2012 at 05:27 PM (#4231096)
RGIII looked great, so did Albert Morris. The line is much better when Liechtenstieger plays. The defense played with spirit, especially Ryan Kerrigan. Can;t help but be really pleased as a Skins fan, even if they are still a year or two away.
   115. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: September 09, 2012 at 05:51 PM (#4231109)
RG3 really did have a nice game, but Brees has to be playing injured. Not taking away anything from the Redskin D, but Brees made a lot of unforced errors today. Lots of drops by the receivers, too.

As far as my upthread prediction that Carolina would win the South, y'all like Matt Ryan a lot more than I do. He looked good today against a banged up KC defense.
   116. NTNgod Posted: September 09, 2012 at 06:02 PM (#4231113)
63 yard FG for Akers, that hit the crossbar and goes over? You've got to be kidding me.
   117. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: September 09, 2012 at 06:02 PM (#4231114)
Niners are catching a lot of breaks today. David Akers just kicked a 63 yd FG that hit the top of the crossbar and bounced over.
   118. thok Posted: September 09, 2012 at 06:05 PM (#4231117)
Is Weeden already the worst first round pick of all time?
   119. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: September 09, 2012 at 06:08 PM (#4231118)
Replacement refs are brutal in Pack/Niners.
   120. clowns to the left of me; STEAGLES to the right Posted: September 09, 2012 at 06:09 PM (#4231119)
Is Weeden already the worst first round pick of all time?
i'm not convinced that he was even the worst first round pick in this game. the eagles drafted brandon ####### graham ahead of earl thomas, while they're ####### loaded at defensive end, with cole, babin, hunt, and tapp, and carrying arguably the worst group of safeties in the NFL.


also, ryan leaf.
   121. DA Baracus Posted: September 09, 2012 at 06:11 PM (#4231121)
I thought Weeden was great today, he was the reason the Eagles won today. My 7-9 prediction is feeling optimistic right now.
   122. JJ1986 Posted: September 09, 2012 at 06:17 PM (#4231126)
The Packers should give up on this whole "running the ball" thing.
   123. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: September 09, 2012 at 06:31 PM (#4231135)
Replacement refs are brutal in Pack/Niners.


This is understating it.
   124. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: September 09, 2012 at 07:21 PM (#4231150)
So, how much will Harbaugh's fine be after the goes off on the refs after the game?
   125. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: September 09, 2012 at 07:29 PM (#4231153)
It's pretty remarkable when you can make me yearn for the days of regular NFL refs. Congrats, replacements!
   126. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 09, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4231155)
don't know why harbaugh should be complaining. sure the packers committed a goodly amount but san fran procedure and holding were ignored several times

san fran should be pleased overall
   127. JJ1986 Posted: September 09, 2012 at 07:54 PM (#4231164)
In Arizona, the refs don't know how many timeouts Seattle has.
   128. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 09, 2012 at 07:57 PM (#4231167)
both wisconsin and green bay got exposed in line play this weekend

i don't know how coaches forget about this aspect of the game but you get reminded pretty quick when you cannot handle the line of scrimmage

san fran overwhelmed the packer o-line on that last series which i think is inexcusable

and the wisky o-line also got steamrolled

yuck
   129. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:05 PM (#4231169)
don't know why harbaugh should be complaining. sure the packers committed a goodly amount but san fran procedure and holding were ignored several times

The missed calls on the punt return for the TD made this game when it really shouldn't have been. It's a freaking joke that the league is using replacement referees.

San Francisco really has a lot of talent on both sides of the ball. They're least talented at QB, where a former first pick overall is the starter. I don't know if you can win in the NFL without a great QB but the 49ers sure are going to try. Smith did play well today and the Niners sure do have a lot more weapons this year than they ever have had before for Smith.
   130. Flynn Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:09 PM (#4231171)
Smith is such a one read guy, he really just can't think on his feet. It's amazing when you consider he's a very bright guy off the field.

But this is the best receiving corps he's had since he joined the NFL, so his flaws will be covered like never before by guys who can actually get open. I don't know what the endgame is for that, but it's nice not being entirely reliant on Davis and Gore.
   131. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:15 PM (#4231175)
russlan

it would not have changed the outcome but..... and note i wrote it would not have changed the outcome.....but the niners had some obvious procedure penalties, one of the easiest calls to make, not called much earlier in the game.

and now you and others will ignore what i wrote and hound me for suggesting that green bay got robbed or some such nonsense.
   132. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:16 PM (#4231178)
and yes, i really hate what this site has become. a bunch of twerps desperate beyond understanding to not comprehend what was written and argue what was not stated

this is not directed at any one poster

but if folks are wondering why i take such an aggressive qualifying stance it is a vain attempt to cut off the useless digression
   133. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:19 PM (#4231180)
HW, I am just saying that the missed calls on the punt return TD are reason enough for Harbaugh to complain. It was a very poorly officiated game and both sides have reasons to be upset.

I quoted your post because you said that you didn't know why Harbaugh should be complaining.
   134. JJ1986 Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:20 PM (#4231181)
The 49ers running backs appear to start at full speed way before they get the ball more than any other team. It gives them a lot more momentum as they hit the line of scrimmage.
   135. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:28 PM (#4231184)
russlan

he was griping long before the punt return.
   136. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:32 PM (#4231188)
it's pretty telling that when san fran chose to play they could stop green bay pretty handily

if i were packer leadership i would be mighty concerned
   137. booond Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:40 PM (#4231190)
i don't know how coaches forget about this aspect of the game but you get reminded pretty quick when you cannot handle the line of scrimmage


It's great to have star players at skill positions but without good line play they get lost. New England is one team which works hard to draft offensive linemen.

That SF-GB game was a joke as far as officiating was concerned.
   138. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:48 PM (#4231201)
he was griping long before the punt return.

Oh, Harbaugh will do that.

I have to say that as a 49er fan, I am very pleased with just how much talent this team has right now. It says a lot to me that this team is considered a title contender even though of the 4 guys that they have drafted in the first two rounds of the last two drafts, only one of them is playing a big role for this team even though the guys they have drafted are still well thought of.
   139. JJ1986 Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:58 PM (#4231207)
Is Jenkins still supposed to play a role? I thought reports were that he looked bad.
   140. DA Baracus Posted: September 09, 2012 at 09:22 PM (#4231217)
san fran overwhelmed the packer o-line on that last series which i think is inexcusable

and the wisky o-line also got steamrolled


Look around the league, there's a lot of weak offensive lines. And nobody has any real depth. Meanwhile many teams have talent and depth at defensive line.
   141. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: September 09, 2012 at 09:40 PM (#4231233)
and now you and others will ignore what i wrote and hound me for suggesting that green bay got robbed or some such nonsense.

The only thing that rivals the fake stories of manliness in the I-wish-this-guy-would-die-already hierarchy is your patented brand of preemptive whining.
   142. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: September 09, 2012 at 10:41 PM (#4231265)
Jenkins isn't likely to play an important role for the niners this year unless they have injuries. Their first picks this year won't play much this year.
   143. zenbitz Posted: September 09, 2012 at 11:58 PM (#4231323)
I think to get a full count of the officiating blunders in the SF-GB game you would have to re-watch the whole thing. I suspect that the Niners got more no-calls in their favor, but the Packers got the two biggest. I think they got maybe 25% of the PI calls right, although I think (HOMER ALERT) that the one OPI call against the packers was correct.

What's really odd on that punt return is that the threw the flag -- then picked it back up. Officials miss/don't call blocks in the back on pretty much every return - but to call one then then pick it up?

Smith is such a one read guy, he really just can't think on his feet. It's amazing when you consider he's a very bright guy off the field.


I think that's only part of it. I think he is being specifically coached to play ball security. It's not only the 1-read throws, but he is constantly throwing the ball out of bounds or eating it when he gets any pressure -- which is not very dynamic play but it DOES minimize INTs and fumbles. Last year, when the Niners were trailing in games he went much deeper into progressions and avoided pressure more.

Or maybe he's just not very good.
   144. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: September 10, 2012 at 12:08 AM (#4231331)
So Peyton looked really good today and I can't help but think that the Niners would be pretty big favorites if he had signed with them this offseason. Not all of his throws were great but he had enough arm strength to make some difficult passes and he of course made excellent decisions.
   145. zenbitz Posted: September 10, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4231334)
it's pretty telling that when san fran chose to play they could stop green bay pretty handily


SF D is a bad matchup for GB because their ILBs can cover the best TEs. So they don't have to sub nickel as much as other teams, so you can't put in 3 WR and run the ball.

Rodgers probably kept the game close by avoiding 3-4 sacks with little scrambles. Green Bay was unstoppable 3rd and short.

The real problem for GB is their linebacking corps which is horrible. Niners got almost 6 ypc on the ground, that is exactly what they needed to open their passing game up (until the score was 23-7 and they went into turtle mode).
   146. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: September 13, 2012 at 01:19 PM (#4234867)
Fearless prediction, Bears win tonight.
   147. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 13, 2012 at 01:59 PM (#4234931)
meat

they should. the 49ers followed the giants blueprint which is go back to playing basic football because it finally dawned on folks that gb is constructed exclusively to play crazy ball.

i have been griping nonstop that gb would have a problem if teams just started lining up and punching them in the face because their d-line stinks and you can't defend with 2 down linemen consistently. the league figured it out.

the good teams are going to thrash gb save for when rodgers is spectacular and that is a lot to ask of any qb
   148. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: September 13, 2012 at 02:10 PM (#4234939)
plus if Jennings does play he wont be near 100% which will help the bears secondary
   149. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: September 13, 2012 at 02:10 PM (#4234940)
also the bears have a pretty good running game so they should be able to just smash them if the line holds up.
   150. zenbitz Posted: September 13, 2012 at 03:24 PM (#4235024)
Weirdly, the Bears ran 42 times for 199 against GB last year (in Green Bay) and still lost. That was with McCown, not Cutler (nor Matt Forte!) though. Not sure the Bears have a good enough Defense to stop the Packers. But it's awfully early in the season.

   151. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: September 13, 2012 at 05:06 PM (#4235140)
I suspect much will depend on the health/effectiveness of Tillman and Urlacher. Urlacher has been particularly effective against Rogers in the past.
   152. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: September 14, 2012 at 12:19 AM (#4235433)
well that was a bag of ####
   153. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: September 14, 2012 at 12:27 AM (#4235438)
I think if you asked Bears fans if they'd be happy holding Rodgers to 22 of 32 for 219 yards and a TD before the game they'd have said yes. Yeesh.
   154. zenbitz Posted: September 14, 2012 at 02:25 AM (#4235464)
I only watched the first half... but that was not at all the game I was expecting.

Sooo.... I guess the Niners offense is really good, and the Bears defense is as good as the Niners?
(Week 1 is national jump to conclusions week, Week 2 is national extrapolate from limited data week)
   155. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 14, 2012 at 07:57 AM (#4235503)
i remain suspicious of the packers defense as the bears game plan was just weird. though i do give the packers credit for tremendous effort and run defense starts with great effort.

it was also tremendous of the packers getting a special teams trick play on the team famous for good special teams play.

worthy was a cipher last week and this week mixed it up. is that the bears stinking on the o-line or the young man adjusting his game?

i am not here to tell the bears how to line up but gabe carimi would be a better option than the guy they currently have at left tackle. has to be.
   156. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: September 14, 2012 at 09:32 AM (#4235558)
So the bears suck. That was a terrible game.
   157. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: September 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM (#4235832)
Harvey, I also have no idea why they don't try Carimi at LT. Webb is just awful, and last night it looked as though he couldn't block a determined mouse.
   158. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 14, 2012 at 12:56 PM (#4235854)
chris

asking any lineman to block mathews by himself is a tall order. one of mathews distinctive traits is that he never stops coming. you have to defeat his first, second and third move and if your qb moves cm will break free and track him down.

i am not upset with the officials but merely pointing out that another crew might have called at least 3 holding calls against mathews by bears linemen.

if worthy or perry can provide anything in terms of a rush keeping teams honest mathews could have a huge year.
   159. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: September 14, 2012 at 01:09 PM (#4235865)
If we lived in an alternate universe where no one knew who the referees told and we were never told these were replacement officials, would we even have noticed yet?

I think yes--but only because of a couple of really amateurish mistakes like not knowing how many timeouts Seattle had. I think based only on bogus/missed penalties, absolutely not. Football fans have been ######## about unfairly called or uncalled holding and pass interference since the dawn of time.
   160. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 14, 2012 at 01:30 PM (#4235894)
zeth

first,i specifically wrote that i was not upset and therefore was not complaining.

but last night there were several what i would term obvious. i have played the game, i have reffed the game so i feel pretty comfortable stating that when mathews was grabbed by the shoulder pads and pulled to the ground on top of the lineman who was falling to the ground that is a hold.

i clarify up front that i am not complaining but observing and then the post gets lumped in with fans complaining about penalties all the time

c'mon. give me a break
   161. zenbitz Posted: September 14, 2012 at 01:37 PM (#4235904)
Yeah, either the Bears OL is really bad, or the Niners' is really good. I might actually be coming around to the latter.

Or the Green Bay DL is schizoid. I didn't see the Colts/Bears game but apparently the Bears had big troubles until Freeney went out.
   162. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 14, 2012 at 01:41 PM (#4235909)
The OL wasn't good, but it looked to me like Cutler generally had time to get a throw off. But if his first option wasn't open, and it usually wasn't, he went down.
   163. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 14, 2012 at 01:49 PM (#4235920)
tom

the only knock i would put on cutler from last night was that he seemed to be throwing at times as he was falling back causing the ball to sail
   164. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: September 14, 2012 at 02:04 PM (#4235942)
I didn't see the Colts/Bears game but apparently the Bears had big troubles until Freeney went out.


I've read this several places too. If it is an issue for the Bears to deal with impressive individual defensive playmakers, that might be something they can scheme around. If I'm the Bears I'm not worried yet, they don't have too hellacious a schedule and the season is very young. I still think they end up 10-6 and make the playoffs.

I also think the Packers have to be concerned after the past two weeks about their offense. Any team using Cedric Benson as their number 1 RB isn't going to be great on the ground and their O-line hasn't looked nearly as good as last year in the limited time I've seen them. Of course, it would be hard for that offense to be as good as last year and at the same time it's not unlikely that their defense has improved from ranking 25th in DVOA.
   165. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: September 14, 2012 at 02:13 PM (#4235954)
Harveys: actually this is my first post in the thread and was a generalized point, I wasn't thinking of any one person or post in particular. There's a lot of ######## about officiating going on, but then, last year there was a lot of ######## about officiating going on. There were some blown calls. I'm actually of the opinion that, compared even to high-level (SEC) college football the NFL moves at warp speed, and compared to anything below high-level college the NFL is so much faster it strains the language to come up with the words to compare. As such, NFL officials deserve a lot more than what the NFL's been paying them.
   166. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 14, 2012 at 02:18 PM (#4235960)
scott

running the ball in green bay is far more dependent on the line than who carries the ball since ted thompson refuses to invest any money in running backs and mike mccarthy is a pass first coach

as to the offensive line newhouse isn't chad clifton and jeff saturday is not scott wells.

zeth

i work to not gripe about officiating barring an obvious misunderstanding of the rules or a truly egregious infraction. and even then i will mostly sigh as opposed to a hissy fit only because i know it is pointless to fume
   167. DA Baracus Posted: September 14, 2012 at 02:20 PM (#4235963)
If we lived in an alternate universe where no one knew who the referees told and we were never told these were replacement officials, would we even have noticed yet?


Yes, but not because of the bad judgement calls. We'd know because these refs don't know the rules. They are screwing up things like keeping track of time outs (it happened in two games on Sunday, not just Arizona-Seattle), placement of the ball, what down it is, etc. at an alarming rate. PI, holding... we're going to get bad calls on those with any refs. Not having the right down as happened last night, that's just inexcusable at the highest level.
   168. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: September 14, 2012 at 05:24 PM (#4236159)
Also -- and this isn't remotely significant, just something that bugs me -- how do they decide which ref is the one to announce the penalty? Because the guy last night could barely form coherent sentences.

Really made me miss Ed Hoculi and his 12-minute explanations.
   169. clowns to the left of me; STEAGLES to the right Posted: September 14, 2012 at 05:43 PM (#4236178)
if the numbers on vegasinsider.com are correct, over 90% of the money being bet on the eagles-ravens game is behind the ravens. 98% of the money being waged on the money-line is on the ravens.


that's kind of insane.
   170. JJ1986 Posted: September 16, 2012 at 02:55 PM (#4237326)
More fun with refs. Ryans goes down on Philadelphia 43. 15 yard dead ball penalty. And they put the ball on BLT 32, then BLT 37 before getting it right.
   171. Flynn Posted: September 16, 2012 at 03:12 PM (#4237335)
Well, Miami's not going 0-16.
   172. Tripon Posted: September 16, 2012 at 03:32 PM (#4237344)
CJ Spiller is the man!
   173. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 16, 2012 at 04:03 PM (#4237356)
Schiano D looked to be really confusing the Giants in the first half, but it is falling apart spectacularly at the moment.
   174. Tripon Posted: September 16, 2012 at 04:12 PM (#4237359)
And then Josh Freeman threw a bomb down half the field for a TD
   175. JJ1986 Posted: September 16, 2012 at 04:13 PM (#4237360)
And now they just called OPI as a 15-yard penalty.
   176. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 16, 2012 at 04:19 PM (#4237362)
Incredible air-show in New Jersey today.

Schiano's Bucs seem decent enough. If we wins 9 he could get some coach of the year mentions.
   177. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 16, 2012 at 04:21 PM (#4237365)
I know there's no guarantees on a FG from the 1 yard line, blah blah, but I think the Giants messed this up.
   178. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: September 16, 2012 at 04:22 PM (#4237366)
The Cardinals offered, but the Patriots refused.
   179. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 16, 2012 at 04:22 PM (#4237367)
Holy crap! Coughlin screwd this up bad.
   180. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 16, 2012 at 04:23 PM (#4237368)
agh, he dropped it. Coughlin is going to get saved.
   181. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 16, 2012 at 04:23 PM (#4237370)
You know, I think that's a fumble out of bounds, not an incompletion.
   182. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: September 16, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4237400)
Pats loss takes out about half of all survivor pools. Good thing I had the Chargers. /jinxed myself there
   183. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 16, 2012 at 05:25 PM (#4237402)
it is my old eyes failing or does ben of the steelers look in shape?

last year he looked pretty tubby.
   184. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: September 16, 2012 at 05:34 PM (#4237412)
I think the Rams have "dominated in time of possesion" because the Redskins have scored quickly, including off turnovers.
   185. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 16, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4237461)
Anyone have any thoughts about the coaches' quarrel at the end of Bucs/Giants game. Why not try to force a fumble on the ending kneeldown? Doesn't seem bush league to me.
   186. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 16, 2012 at 07:18 PM (#4237479)
the afc east is not having a good weekend save for the bills who got to play a romeo coached team which is like playing the jv
   187. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 16, 2012 at 07:28 PM (#4237485)
is there traffic in pittsburgh after a game? looks like a lotofpeople have left already.
   188. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: September 16, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4237490)
the afc east is not having a good weekend save for the bills who got to play a romeo coached team which is like playing the jv

Have Miami and Oakland been relegated? That would explain a lot...

Also, I expect JV coaches everywhere will be demanding an apology.
   189. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 16, 2012 at 07:46 PM (#4237496)
Upset about the Skins loss, Morgan's an idiot and Rocca (useless fuxking Aussie) was charged down again. Looked like he hesitated a step.

Bardford played well though - good for him.
   190. clowns to the left of me; STEAGLES to the right Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:46 AM (#4237684)
Upset about the Skins loss, Morgan's an idiot and Rocca (useless fuxking Aussie) was charged down again. Looked like he hesitated a step.
just wait until november. savarino is ####### terrible in cold weather. he can really boom it 70 yards in good weather, but he'll be lucky to crack 40 when the temperature gets under that.


a few quick thoughts on the eagles game:

the eagles have now won their first two games of the season by 1 point each. they are the first team in NFL history to do that. in fact, in their entire history, the eagles have only won 25 games by a single point.

also, the last 3 teams to win the home opener at lincoln financial field were the saints, packers, and giants. somewhat related to that, the last three NFL champions were the saints, packers, and giants.

and i'm not sure how he finished, but there was a point in the 2nd half where joe flacco was 4/16 as a passer. for the eagles defense, that's on top of last week where they held brandon weeden to 12/35 as a passer. it's very early in the season, but you've gotta be pretty ecstatic for that kind of performance from the defense. and, believe it or not, there's more upside there. the passrush hasn't really gotten untracked yet, and with the way the back end of the defense has stiffened up so far, if babin, cole, jenkins, cox, landri, thornton, tapp, graham, and hunt can start to get sacks, this defense could be scary good.

brent celek is a ####### god. 8 catches for 157 yards, plus 2 jaw-dropping moments, 1-where he hurdled over an attempted tackle by ed reed, and 2-where he was demolished by bernard pollard, and then after laying on the ground for about a 2 count, he sprung to feet, gave a little strut, and then signaled first down. the crowd went wild and it kind of set the tone for his performance--at least for this game, but hopefully for the season. with all the attention that needs to be paid to jackson, to vick, to mccoy, to maclin, celek should be able to put up this kind of performance week in, week out.



and that kicker the ravens had, he hit 56, 52, and 48 yard field goals with tons of room to spare. i'm not a huge physics guy, but hte 56 yarder he hit in the 2nd quarter looked like it could have cleared the post from 70. the kid had a hell of a leg.


oh, and 9 turnovers through 2 games. i cannot imagine that winning will be sustainable for very long if that doesn't get ironed out.

also, in their last 10 games, the eagles are 10-0. they finished on a 4 game winning streak last year, they swept the preseason this year, and now they're 2-0 going into week 3. it's probably the least impressive 10-0 streak imaginable, but #### it, it's still 10 straight wins in the NFL. that ####'s kind of rare.
   191. zenbitz Posted: September 18, 2012 at 03:11 PM (#4239284)
NFC is 7-1 vs. AFC, NFCs one loss was Vikings to Colts.

If Philly can go 4-2 in the NFCE they should win the division.
   192. JJ1986 Posted: September 20, 2012 at 08:53 PM (#4241660)
Panthers defense looks crappy as ever, but Kuechly is really good.
   193. BDC Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:31 PM (#4243771)
Cowboys outlasted Tampa Bay today. Sorry I didn't get to see any of the game, I love field goals :)
   194. clowns to the left of me; STEAGLES to the right Posted: September 23, 2012 at 06:05 PM (#4243790)
   195. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: September 23, 2012 at 07:09 PM (#4243817)
So, who was holding the Falcons back more, Mike Mularkey or Brian VanGorder?
   196. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 23, 2012 at 07:17 PM (#4243823)
steeler db laid out heywood-bay of oakland. that was a serious head shot. setting aside there was no flag bey is not moving.
   197. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 23, 2012 at 07:23 PM (#4243825)
while in the cart he raised his right hand to the crowd.

that was a vicious shot. not picking on the steelers but the who made the hit has to be looking at a suspension
   198. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: September 23, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4243833)
A Steelers player took a cheap, dirty hit on an offensive player? I'm shocked.
   199. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: September 23, 2012 at 09:13 PM (#4243867)
It's pretty chippy in Baltimore. Refs let a lot of skirmishes pass without a flag, until they finally threw one.
   200. JJ1986 Posted: September 24, 2012 at 09:54 PM (#4244724)
8 sacks in a half?
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