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OT:  2014 College Football pre-season thread


Rk Team (1st)           Pts
 1 Florida State 
(56)   1543
 2 Alabama              1455
 3 Oklahoma 
(3)         1382
 4 Oregon 
(1)           1314
 5 Auburn               1271
 6 Ohio State 
(1)       1267
 7 UCLA                 1085
 8 Michigan State       1050
 9 South Carolina 
(1)   1009
10 Baylor                965 


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The coaches sports information directors have spoken:


Rk Team (1st)           Pts
 1 Florida State 
(56)   1543
 2 Alabama              1455
 3 Oklahoma 
(3)         1382
 4 Oregon 
(1)           1314
 5 Auburn               1271
 6 Ohio State 
(1)       1267
 7 UCLA                 1085
 8 Michigan State       1050
 9 South Carolina 
(1)   1009
10 Baylor                965 



11 Stanford              955
12 Georgia               905
13 LSU                   833
14 Wisconsin             654
15 USC                   627
16 Clemson               535
17 Notre Dame            509
18 Arizona State         358
19 Mississippi           346
20 Texas A
&M             266
21 Kansas State          257
22 Nebraska              228
23 North Carolina        175
24 Texas                 143
25 Washington            142 


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11 Stanford              955
12 Georgia               905
13 LSU                   833
14 Wisconsin             654
15 USC                   627
16 Clemson               535
17 Notre Dame            509
18 Arizona State         358
19 Mississippi           346
20 Texas A
&M             266
21 Kansas State          257
22 Nebraska              228
23 North Carolina        175
24 Texas                 143
25 Washington            142 


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   1. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 01, 2014 at 09:31 PM (#4762887)
Well, the "Extended" box on the submission page clearly doesn't work.
   2. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: August 01, 2014 at 10:37 PM (#4762922)
Don't worry about it. CoachesSID poll, meaningless as it is, signals it is time to start thinking about it. Pretty strange to see a #2 team in a preseason poll with zero 1st place votes.

What games are you guys going to this year? I'm finally doing Baton Rouge, Bama v LSU and then B1G CCG since it is in my neighborhood.
   3. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: August 01, 2014 at 10:40 PM (#4762924)
Watch out for the Gators. Rocketing back to .500, baby!
   4. Spivey Posted: August 01, 2014 at 10:47 PM (#4762927)
I'll go to a random Big 10 game or two - probably one at Wisconsin and then one at Iowa/Northwestern/Wisconsin-again. I might try to go to a random Ole Miss home game. I've heard some that it's arguably the premier place to go in the south for college football. And I can easily wheel that, right now. And they seem like they could be decent this year.
   5. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: August 01, 2014 at 11:14 PM (#4762939)
I'll endorse a game in Oxford. The Grove is the ideal place for a tailgate party, and the quality of the scenery is beyond comparison. It's remarkable how much more civilized and upscale the scene in the Grove is compared to the debauchery found on Regent St. in Madison on an average Saturday. Both very fun times, but completely different experiences.
   6. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: August 01, 2014 at 11:16 PM (#4762940)
Going to the Nebraska - Mich St. game since it's just down the road. Otherwise, depending on time I might take in a CMU game.
   7. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 01, 2014 at 11:24 PM (#4762942)
As usual, I feel that Oregon is entering the season ranked too highly.

Say things like this to other Oregon fans and they start yelling at me.
   8. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 01, 2014 at 11:26 PM (#4762944)
Also, I'll be back east for almost the whole regular season (Sept-Thanksgiving). I may go to a Harvard game just for kicks, but this is looking like the first time since Kelly came to town that I won't be seeing a Ducks game live.
   9. SteveM. Posted: August 02, 2014 at 02:08 AM (#4762978)
Thank God football is nearly here. I bought a new Alabama polo to get ready for gameday with the local alumni association.
I will second a game in Oxford. When I lived in the South, that was my favorite roadtrip. The women are pretty, the tailgating is amazing, and the stadium is small enough that there is not a bad seat in the house.
   10. Every Inge Counts Posted: August 02, 2014 at 02:46 AM (#4762983)
Not sure if Alabama should be #2 to start the season (though they probably have #2 talent overall).

I plan on going to:
Atlanta to see Alabama vs. West Virginia

Knoxville: for Alabama vs. Tennessee (have to see Lane Kiffin back in Knoxville).

Live in Baton Rouge, so Alabama v. LSU is a must.

   11. OsunaSakata Posted: August 07, 2014 at 12:55 PM (#4766348)
In the discussion whether college athletes should be paid, if the colleges don't pay the football and mens basketball players, so what? Will some of them go to minor leagues or play basketball in Europe? Sure, but college basketball survived players going straight to the pros out of high school. What are people afraid will happen if colleges don't pay players?
   12. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: August 07, 2014 at 02:36 PM (#4766457)
As usual, I feel that Oregon is entering the season ranked too highly.

Say things like this to other Oregon fans and they start yelling at me.
Nah, I'm with you. I don't love the front seven and the receivers are a big pile of question marks. They could well run the table, but they could also go 9-4. And if, God forbid, Mariota gets broken...eek. I'm not on board the Jeff Lockie train.

As for the games I'll attend, probably two Bowling Green games: at Ohio and home against Kent State.
   13. zonk Posted: August 07, 2014 at 03:46 PM (#4766577)
Planning to go to the Northwestern-ND game -- first time in that stadium since 1995.... I hope the results are just as fun.

The Cats were better than their record last year - and return virtually everyone except Colter and Proby. They get Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Michigan at home - missing OSU and MSU - and only ND on the road. They've got depth issues in the secondary, but last year's tossing into the fire of lots of young corners might end up being a blessing. I think the offense - the whole O Line is back - will also benefit from the end of the platoon QBs. It was fun, it worked, but the magic really wore out last year and I think a lot of the mistakes that led to close losses are traceable to an offense that had to get a little schizophrenic.
   14. Every Inge Counts Posted: August 07, 2014 at 06:29 PM (#4766670)
Some changes might be afoot with the new P5 getting more autonomy.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/06/sports/ncaa-autonomy-translation.html
   15. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 18, 2014 at 01:20 PM (#4773608)
AP top ten:

Rk Team (1st)           Pts
 1 Florida State 
(57)   1496
 2 Alabama 
(1)          1361
 3 Oregon 
(1)           1334
 4 Oklahoma 
(1)         1324
 5 Ohio State           1207
 6 Auburn               1198
 7 UCLA                 1106
 8 Michigan State       1080
 9 South Carolina       1015
10 Baylor                966 
   16. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: August 18, 2014 at 01:45 PM (#4773658)
Ah, memories. The yellow pages, 5 disc CD changers, and the AP poll for college football.
   17. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 18, 2014 at 03:15 PM (#4773831)
Don't forget Keith Jackson!
   18. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: August 18, 2014 at 04:14 PM (#4773910)
I was trying to come up with things that people have, or that are still around, but we really have no need for them. I don't believe Keith Jackson is doing games anymore, unless it is some really obscure radio broadcast that I'm naive to at this moment.

I do long for some of those former PBP/Color guys (when they were at their peak, I think Jackson lost his edge long before he retired) such as: Gary Bender (I think does some Mtn west games and NBA radio still), Criqui (who does ND radio now), Schenkel, Jackson, Frank Broyles as a color guy, Charlie Jones, Ron Franklin and Gottfried (both of which have had sad sad declines). I actually wish Tom Hammond would get to do more football, it's just weird listening to Dan Hicks do football
   19. madvillain Posted: August 18, 2014 at 04:47 PM (#4773948)
My buddies and I still laugh our asses off at the time Jack Arute, perhaps feeling the pressure from some sweet and perky young blond sideline reporter, chugged hot sauce prior to a Michigan game so he "could get a sense of how hot it is for the players".

Dunno if Jack is still on the sidelines haven't seen him lately.
   20. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: August 18, 2014 at 04:58 PM (#4773968)
Jack does a daily XM radio show on college sports. It is at times listenable.

I had a chance to work a game with Arute nearby in college. We were basically gophers for the network which was in town to do the Nebraska game. Arute went off about not having the proper rain jacket and ultimately one of the gophers was ordered to go and get him one and be back in about five minutes. Of course, none of this was going to happen in five minutes. I recall one of the network employees saying to nobody in particular, "unless you plan on mugging a fan for his red raincoat, there's no way you're going to make it to a store and back by halftime"
   21. I am going to be Frank Posted: August 18, 2014 at 05:44 PM (#4774032)
Going to Michigan-Rutgers and probably crash my buddy's Penn State-Rutgers tailgate. I paid $150/ticket for the Michigan game on the lower sideline - which apparently is cheap (I got it through my friend who is a longtime season-ticket holder) because right now they're going for $300 at the Rutgers website and $200 on stubhub. Straight-up gouging.
   22. TerpNats Posted: August 18, 2014 at 07:30 PM (#4774096)
Now that I'm an Angeleno (got my California ID card today!), I plan to take in one Southern Cal game and one UCLA game sometime this season. Have never attended an event at either the Coliseum or Rose Bowl (crossed the Hollywood Bowl off my list Friday with the annual Tchaikovsky spectacular, ending of course with the 1812 Overture complete with fireworks and the SC band).
   23. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 18, 2014 at 09:46 PM (#4774160)
Braxton Miller hurt:

Ohio State senior quarterback Braxton Miller, considered by several polls to be among the preseason leaders to make a run at the Heisman Trophy, reinjured his right shoulder in practice this afternoon, sources told The Dispatch. The injury puts in jeopardy his playing status for the coming season.
   24. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: August 18, 2014 at 10:59 PM (#4774217)
He's pretty much the one known quantity in the B1G at QB. The league has not been very deep at the position lately. A few effective game managers and such remain, but not a lot of high level talent.
   25. greenback calls it soccer Posted: August 18, 2014 at 11:21 PM (#4774224)
Michigan's QB is talented, maybe very talented, but it doesn't matter because Michigan had one of the worst offensive lines in FBS last year, and after losing a first round tackle, it should be even worse this year.
   26. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 18, 2014 at 11:23 PM (#4774225)
That really sucks for Miller. Supposedly it was a close question as to whether he would try the NFL or come back to college this year.
   27. steagles Posted: August 19, 2014 at 12:13 AM (#4774243)
He's pretty much the one known quantity in the B1G at QB. The league has not been very deep at the position lately. A few effective game managers and such remain, but not a lot of high level talent.
hackenberg is a pretty high level talent at penn state. he's a potential top 10 pick in 2016. his offensive line is pretty shitty, but they have a junior at LT who has legit NFL potential. plus the best group of TEs in the country and a solid amount of talent at RB.
   28. Weekly Journalist Posted: August 19, 2014 at 12:59 AM (#4774266)
OH MY GOD I AM SO FREAkin PUMPED FOR THE SEASON!

WE ARE IN THE BIG TEN!!!

I know people expect Rutgers to get smooshed like insects, but we are so good upfront on O and D. We will surprise people and win 6 games. Yes that's a prediction.
   29. Weekly Journalist Posted: August 19, 2014 at 01:01 AM (#4774267)
21. I got the miniplans with my brother and some friends. For $177 we got Wisconsin, Michigan, and Tulane (yeah yeah). Seems like a good deal just for Wisky and Mich. I won't be making it to the PSU game but neither wild dogs nor my wife will stop me from watching it on TV. Will probably end up picking up Indiana tickets which are on special right now for $30 (and will either drop if Rutgers gets shellacked early in the season or go up if they win some games). Hey, it's Big Ten football. Why the heck not?
   30. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 19, 2014 at 01:19 AM (#4774274)
Have never attended an event at either the Coliseum or Rose Bowl


Unfortunately, the Coliseum is a bit of an anus, unless it's been remodeled.
   31. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 19, 2014 at 12:47 PM (#4774570)
Rainbow Warriors in jeopardy:

"There's a very real possibility of football going away," said University of Hawaii Athletics Director Ben Jay at a Board of Regents meeting Monday afternoon.
   32. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 19, 2014 at 01:58 PM (#4774639)
I've always thought it was kind of impractical for Hawaii schools to play big time sports. It's a 4-5 hour flight *every time* they play a road game. Must be ridiculously expensive, too.
   33. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: August 19, 2014 at 02:54 PM (#4774693)
Wouldn't small time sports be almost as impractical? I say specialize in one or two... (like baseball, he wishes?)
   34. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 19, 2014 at 03:31 PM (#4774728)
I meant more like semi-intramural things that can be played between the -- what? -- three? four? schools in Hawaii.
   35. spike Posted: August 19, 2014 at 05:35 PM (#4774862)
looks like the word is Miller really is done for the year.

It's going really interesting to see the 4 team playoff selection in action, since by definition at least one of the Power 5 is going to be left out. And heaven forfend if two teams from a single conference make it in. Seems like a good year to have an undefeated conference champ I think.
   36. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 19, 2014 at 05:48 PM (#4774867)
With no Braxton Miller it seems likely the B1G is on the outside. I believe I read OSU only plays one ranked opponent so they would have to win big to impress (at least in theory) and losing their best offensive player is a massive hit there.

My wild guess right now is Oregon, Baylor, FSU and the SEC champ (Alabama most likely). Offense will be well represented.
   37. spike Posted: August 19, 2014 at 06:02 PM (#4774872)
Out of curiosity - I don't follow the conference - why do you like Baylor over Oklahoma? OU comes in with a bit more preseason hype, just as soft a schedule, and the game between them is at OU? Genuinely interested.
   38. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 19, 2014 at 06:07 PM (#4774874)
I didn't know Baylor goes to Norman but they return a lot and I think the Oklahoma love is unduly fueled by their bowl win.

But I don't follow either program that closely so it's gut as much as anything.
   39. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: August 22, 2014 at 03:45 PM (#4777348)
I see Wisconsin will start McEvoy at QB instead of returning starter Joel Stave. I'm not totally surprised by this. UW opens vs LSU in Houston next weekend.
   40. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: August 22, 2014 at 03:53 PM (#4777355)
34 - Which would mean that UH would always win.
   41. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 28, 2014 at 05:09 PM (#4781120)
Texas A&M-South Carolina in an hour. Boise State-Ole Miss from Atlanta in three. It's finally here.
   42. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: August 28, 2014 at 07:15 PM (#4781197)
Today I learned that I do in fact get this weird SEC/ESPN channel. Who knew.
   43. Every Inge Counts Posted: August 28, 2014 at 07:24 PM (#4781204)
Either South Carolina isn't that good on D or A&M isn't missing a beat.
   44. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 29, 2014 at 03:10 AM (#4781433)
I somehow missed that the season was starting this weekend. I guess having an actual Mariners pennant race has reminded me of what my favorite sport actually is.

Anyhoozy, my pops and I are gonna go see UO-MSU in Eugene on the 6th, so I won't break my streak of seeing at least one Ducks game every year. It should be interesting, not least as a preview for a Stanford matchup -- my recollection is that Stanford and MSU played similar games last year, with nasty defenses and traditional, 4-yards-in-a-cloud-of-dust offenses. I think the Ducks are overrated at #3, but if they're gonna beat a top 10 team this year I think this is their best bet.

Someone remind me to get earplugs.
   45. zonk Posted: August 29, 2014 at 03:40 AM (#4781434)
Not even opening weekend yet and USC seems to have already cornered the market on turmoil... First the weird Shaw thing, not a TB quits and calls Sarkasian a racist.

Closer to home, the Cats losing Venric Mark to transfer was a bit of a shock.

With Miller out - I tend to agree... hard for me to see a B1G team in the final four unless the Spartans play D like last year AND find a way to add some offense.
   46. steagles Posted: August 30, 2014 at 09:26 AM (#4782286)
Either South Carolina isn't that good on D or A&M isn't missing a beat.
kevin sumlin is a hell of a coach. i guess people ignored/forgot about what he did at houston because it wasn't the SEC, but he has a consistently excellent track record on offense.


   47. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 01:42 PM (#4782405)
Navy leads Ohio State 7-6 at the half, for those of you on upset watch.
   48. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: August 30, 2014 at 02:20 PM (#4782421)
would be a nice start to the season to see OSU go down.
   49. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 03:01 PM (#4782434)
Navy's game management leaves something to be desired. Its second-half timeouts got used 1) in hopes of drawing a booth review after being stopped inside the one on 1st-and-goal early in the third quarter, 2) to avoid a delay of game before a 3rd-and-23 play and 3) to challenge a spot that had no hope of being overturned.
   50. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 03:21 PM (#4782437)
UCLA leads Virginia 28-20 late on the strength of three defensive touchdowns.
   51. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: August 30, 2014 at 03:27 PM (#4782441)
Navy's game management leaves something to be desired.


My son's HS team played their first game last night, and while granting it's just high school, I don't think I've ever seen worse time management at the end of a game. They (we) score with 6 minutes to go in the game to go up 33-21. Then we do an onside kick (!). The other team recovers on our 40 and takes 2 minutes and 1 TO to score to make it 33-28. Now, with everybody in the stadium expecting them to onside kick, our coach puts the team in a 3 deep, 3 medium, 5 on the line receiving formation. Of course they onside kick and recover. Now our D steps up and holds them without a first down on 4 plays (and no TO used), and we get the ball on the 35 with 2minutes to go. 17 seconds (and 1 TO used) later, we line up to punt. Why? Because 2 of our three plays were sweeps for no gain and the runner going out of bounds. So what do we do on 4th and 8 from our 37? Fake punt, naturally. The punter ran for 7 yards and we turn the ball over on the 44 with 1:30 to go. The d stops them again after 4 passing plays, 23 seconds and no TO used. Now we line up in the victory formation with 1:07 left, and promptly execute 2 false starts. We finally manage to snap the ball and neel down successfully 3 times and end the game.

So, after going up by 2 scores with 6 minutes to go, a team tries: an onside kick, makes no attempt to defend against the world's most obvious onside kick, 2 running plays designed to go out of bounds, and a fake punt.
   52. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 03:34 PM (#4782442)
Georgia Southern trying to hang on in its 1-A debut against NC State. 23-17 with 3:15 left.
   53. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 03:45 PM (#4782448)
20-yard field goals will not beat Alabama, Holgerson.
   54. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 03:46 PM (#4782449)
NC State takes the lead on a 35-yard wheel route, then GSU turns it over on downs.
   55. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 03:49 PM (#4782454)
Lane Kiffin's first call as Alabama OC? Wide receiver screen. Everybody drink.
   56. hokieneer Posted: August 30, 2014 at 04:37 PM (#4782481)
I've watched one quarter of the game and the announcers have only mentioned Lane Kiffin 263 times.

Did you guys know he's calling plays from the sideline this year!!
   57. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: August 30, 2014 at 04:59 PM (#4782488)
Alabama is going to win this game, but the combination of Lane calling the plays and this QB is not going to be a fun ride for Tide fans.
   58. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: August 30, 2014 at 05:03 PM (#4782489)
Not even opening weekend yet and USC seems to have already cornered the market on turmoil... First the weird Shaw thing, not a TB quits and calls Sarkasian a racist.

I know, right? With Haden and Sark they aren't even trying that hard to win anymore, just field a respectable team. So far, not so much. It's going to take a while to get the Lane stink off the roster.

Edit: Wow, that Alford can run. Faster than anybody on the Bama special teams unit.
   59. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 30, 2014 at 05:22 PM (#4782495)
Navy leads Ohio State 7-6 at the half, for those of you on upset watch.


Buckeyes pulled it out, but it looks like we're headed for another season of them stacking up unimpressive victories for a while until they run into a real team and get beat. I don't understand how they end up ranked in the top 5 every year.
   60. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 05:39 PM (#4782502)
Cal is clobbering Northwestern. If that's indicative of real improvement, the Pac-12 just got even tougher.
   61. hokieneer Posted: August 30, 2014 at 06:19 PM (#4782515)
Holy ####. Ive never seen a penalty on a sideline collision like that
   62. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 06:31 PM (#4782517)
West Virginia's getting whatever it wants, then shooting itself in the foot at the end of drives. Anybody wondering if Alabama had solved its spread issues, the answer still seems to be no.
   63. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: August 30, 2014 at 08:09 PM (#4782537)
The start of Florida's opener has been delayed more than an hour due to lightning strikes, and the delay will last at least an hour and a half. This strikes me as an inauspicious start to the season.
   64. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 08:33 PM (#4782540)
FSU's new uniforms are ugly as sin.
   65. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: August 30, 2014 at 09:16 PM (#4782551)
UGA straight up destroyed Clemson in the second half.
   66. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 09:26 PM (#4782555)
Not sure what to expect from Wisconsin-LSU. Wisconsin had a bad secondary, but can this incarnation of LSU pass? And Wisconsin's great front seven is now gone. Can a great defensive staff rebuild it on the fly? LSU's running game should be strong.

Wisconsin's passing offense was iffy, and all its receivers are gone and it has made the quarterback change, but that's okay because LSU couldn't really stop the run last year, and then lost two tackles to the NFL.
   67. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: August 30, 2014 at 09:58 PM (#4782566)
Two hour and 50-minute weather delay in Gainesville, Idaho finally kicks off, UF trots up to the line of scrimmage...lightning strikes again and the game is delayed.
   68. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: August 30, 2014 at 10:22 PM (#4782580)
Wisconsin's passing offense was iffy, and all its receivers are gone and it has made the quarterback change, but that's okay because LSU couldn't really stop the run last year, and then lost two tackles to the NFL.

except Tanner McEvoy isn't a quarterback--he's a tight end playing QB
   69. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2014 at 11:03 PM (#4782607)
So, after going up by 2 scores with 6 minutes to go, a team tries: an onside kick, makes no attempt to defend against the world's most obvious onside kick, 2 running plays designed to go out of bounds, and a fake punt.

Sounds like your coach subscribes to the always being scoring TD and never kick off strategy.

In terms of time management UCF really botched it as well and Penn State was acting really screwy at the end as well.
   70. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 11:27 PM (#4782619)
Er, who kicks an extra point up by 12 with under four minutes left?
   71. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 11:40 PM (#4782626)
except Tanner McEvoy isn't a quarterback--he's a tight end playing QB

Point was a sketchy-turned-possibly-worse passing offense wasn't going to keep Wisconsin from scoring in this particular matchup because LSU's defense was vulnerable to an elite rushing game.
   72. Every Inge Counts Posted: August 30, 2014 at 11:42 PM (#4782628)
What teams can stop the spread at this point and time? Alabama allowed 1 offensive TD and outgained WVU by 145 yards.
   73. Every Inge Counts Posted: August 30, 2014 at 11:43 PM (#4782630)
Not sure what issues I have with Lane Kiffin and Blake Sims either.
   74. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 30, 2014 at 11:45 PM (#4782631)
What exactly happened at the end of the FSU/OSU game?
   75. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 30, 2014 at 11:52 PM (#4782635)
Alabama allowed 1 offensive TD

Because West Virginia kept dropping passes and missing wide open receivers in the red zone.
   76. Mike A Posted: August 30, 2014 at 11:57 PM (#4782636)
What exactly happened at the end of the FSU/OSU game?

When the refs finally sorted out the clock, FSU took a delay-of-game which set up 4th and 6 with 6 seconds left (Noles up 6).

So Jimbo had Winston drop back and throw it as high as he could out of the end zone, which killed the 6 seconds to end the game. Pretty nifty call, though I think it was a little risky.

FSU, simply put, didn't look very good (though credit to OKSt). Hopefully just some first game jitters, but they'll have to get a lot better to get back to the title game.
   77. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 31, 2014 at 12:05 AM (#4782637)
When the refs finally sorted out the clock, FSU took a delay-of-game which set up 4th and 6 with 6 seconds left (Noles up 6).

Sorry, I should have been more specific. When I flipped over, the officials were just about done sorting out the clock and the announcers were talking about how nobody seemed to know what was going on.
   78. Mike A Posted: August 31, 2014 at 12:12 AM (#4782639)
From what I understand, a defensive player (OKSt) lost his helmet on the 3rd down play, which automatically stops the game clock. The rule states if that happens:

"If there is less than one minute in the half the opponent has the option of a 10 second subtraction."

FSU took the 10-second subtraction on the play, which was what the refs were trying to sort out. It was a strange last 30 seconds.
   79. Every Inge Counts Posted: August 31, 2014 at 12:14 AM (#4782641)
Well Wisconsin has melted down quite nicely.
   80. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 31, 2014 at 01:24 AM (#4782654)
Not sure what issues I have with Lane Kiffin and Blake Sims either.


Let's check in when you've seen the bubble screen 1000 more times by Halloween.
   81. JAHV Posted: August 31, 2014 at 02:19 AM (#4782657)
Well, Mariota and the three-headed beast at RB (Marshall, Tyner, Freeman) looked great for the Ducks, but it was also South Dakota. Main takeaways that are almost meaningless in a game like this:

Good: Jeff Lockie checked down an awful lot, but made smart plays and gave me a small bit of confidence that he could run the offense if (God forbid) Mariota got hurt.
Bad: The defense, particularly the linebackers, had trouble tackling and dealing with the power running game again. That doesn't bode well for MSU next week, but again, it's hard to take anything from a 50-point blowout.
   82. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: August 31, 2014 at 02:46 AM (#4782660)
Not sure what issues I have with Lane Kiffin and Blake Sims either.

This is how it starts! Enjoy WR screen city, it's going to be a wild ride. Marqise Lee couldn't survive it but maybe Amari Cooper is a better man. The signature play of Lane's time at SC was the bubble screen to Lee where he has to make three guys miss to get back to the line of scrimmage before being crushed between a LB a safety and hobbling off the field. That's was our go-to play for years.

And - wow - did SC look good! I have no idea what Fresno brings to the table this year but I kind of regret eating my tickets. I didn't really want to get sucked in this season but Kessler looked good and they seem have a ton of weapons (even better, they have cool names like Buck, Ju-Ju, and Adoree'). I guess I'll wait to see how it goes up at the Farm next week.
   83. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 31, 2014 at 04:00 AM (#4782664)
Bad: The defense, particularly the linebackers, had trouble tackling and dealing with the power running game again. That doesn't bode well for MSU next week, but again, it's hard to take anything from a 50-point blowout.


The defense has always been the Ducks' achilles heel, and I hope -- maybe this year isn't the year, but one day -- that without Nick Allioti's reign of terror they might one day have one that stacks up well enough to truly compete. The last few years, I have had real difficulty talking to a lot of Ducks fans &/or listening to broadcasts, because everyone would go on and on about how underrated Allioti was. The man cost two different programs shots at the national title with his joke defenses, the Ducks more than once; he was only underrated in the sense that nobody knows the name of Pac defensive coordinators. The man was a disaster. Sadly, the Ducks don't appear to have learned to wrap up in his absence.

Ironically, MSU might give the Ducks trouble, but it won't because of their lousy defense. It will be because the Ducks always struggle with tough, fast defenses, and MSU has one of those. Anyway, I'll be at the game. It'll be interesting.
   84. McCoy Posted: August 31, 2014 at 10:11 AM (#4782719)
Maryland crushed James Mason U (yes I know) but looked rather pathetic doing it. Big Ten is going to kill them this year.
   85. spike Posted: August 31, 2014 at 11:36 AM (#4782751)
Cal is clobbering Northwestern. If that's indicative of real improvement, the Pac-12 just got even tougher.

Perhaps - UCLA's performance against UVA was pretty grim though for a #7. "One" offensive touchdown?

Also, Auburn has a very real passing game with Duke Williams/Sammie Coates. I am looking forward to the KSU matchup.
   86. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: August 31, 2014 at 11:49 AM (#4782754)
Also, Auburn has a very real passing game with Duke Williams/Sammie Coates.


Maybe, maybe not. The ####### Razorbacks couldn't defend the pass if the ####### QB was a ####### paraplegic with a ####### receiving corps consisting of ####### armless-legless guys.

This season was ###### whenever whatever ####### idiot burned the ####### talentless ####### QB's pickup forgot to make sure the ####### idiot head coach was sitting inside the goddamned ####### thing unable to ####### move, with the ####### sham of a ####### defensive coach sitting in his ####### lap at the ####### time, preferably while holding a ####### 5-gallon can of ####### gasoline.

Of course, the ####### university is giving the ####### idiot too ####### much money to even think about firing his obnoxious, loudmouth maggot-ridden ####### ass for at least another couple of shamefully awful ####### seasons.

####.





Edited to add my apologies to paraplegics & people without arms & legs.
   87. JAHV Posted: August 31, 2014 at 12:49 PM (#4782775)
The defense has always been the Ducks' achilles heel, and I hope -- maybe this year isn't the year, but one day -- that without Nick Allioti's reign of terror they might one day have one that stacks up well enough to truly compete. The last few years, I have had real difficulty talking to a lot of Ducks fans &/or listening to broadcasts, because everyone would go on and on about how underrated Allioti was. The man cost two different programs shots at the national title with his joke defenses, the Ducks more than once; he was only underrated in the sense that nobody knows the name of Pac defensive coordinators. The man was a disaster. Sadly, the Ducks don't appear to have learned to wrap up in his absence.

Ironically, MSU might give the Ducks trouble, but it won't because of their lousy defense. It will be because the Ducks always struggle with tough, fast defenses, and MSU has one of those. Anyway, I'll be at the game. It'll be interesting.


Heh, well, I think Allioti was under-rated. His defenses were solid to very good once he got out from under Bellotti and Chip Kelly basically said, "Hey, the defense is yours. Here's what I'm going to do. Do what you want with the D." His defenses were far, far from a joke. The Ducks lost the National Championship game in 2010 because their offense failed. They held one of the best offenses in the NCAA to 22 points. That's not on Allioti.

So yeah, I agree with most other Duck fans. I do, however, blame Allioti for last year, when he was coaching with one foot out the door. I think the program wanted him to stay on to ease Helfrich's transition, but he wasn't completely in it. And now we've got Pellum. We'll see how he does.
   88. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 31, 2014 at 01:48 PM (#4782789)
I have a longer memory than you.

There's 2002, in which Aliotti's terrible defense folded in on itself against Stanford.

Or 1998, when -- sans Belotti, you'll note -- his terrible defense cost UCLA a shot at the title.

Or any of a number of other times. This isn't Belotti's fault -- the Ducks have always given up more points than other elite team, and it's a problem. You can stick your fingers in your ears and go "underrated!" because it makes you happy, but it ain't true. Aliotti's defenses gave up points. Often a lot of them, sometimes to teams that weren't very good. This is a bad thing. He was a bad coach.
   89. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 31, 2014 at 02:04 PM (#4782799)
the badgers coaching staff lost that game last night. and it's becoming a trend.

this staff does a really good job from sunday-friday. but come game day they routinely are slow to adjust to circumstances and make curious decisions.

though the one thing that remains the puzzle is dumping an adequate qb like stave. stave has two negatives. he sails passes at times that get intercepted and has poor mobility so can take sacks. but he can throw. the kid is a legit throwing qb

mcevoy is your standard run of the mill athletic guy who if everything breaks right on a passing play might complete the pass. but if one thing goes awry he's off to the races because he cannot find other receivers to save his life.

part of last night's buffoonery was the coaching staff apparently forgetting that melvin gordon was on the team. to my knowledge there has been no explanation why gordon touched the all of 3 times in the second half while the offense was struggling to move the ball.

nor was there any explanation as to why low percentage downfield bombs were featured as part of the offense when it was clear that mcevoy has neither the accuracy or the arm to make such throws feasible. well, he might have the arm but nobody can make a good long throw when they are heaving it from their back foot. his mechanics are dreadful

while only one game, last night showed that stave was much better suited to be a qb than mcevoy. at least if the team expects to be able to throw the ball with any success

and if this coaching staff REALLY believes you can win games in the big ten throwing 15 times a game and completing 9 for 84 yards they are delusional
   90. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 31, 2014 at 02:08 PM (#4782801)
after about a decade of poor secondary play the badgers might also benefit from employing multiple consultants to figure out how to generate adequate coverage by the back 4. not great. not even good mind. just adequate.

seeing receivers be able to stop, catch the ball, turn, survey the field and then begin running and then after about 5 strides maybe get touched is a bit taxing
   91. JAHV Posted: August 31, 2014 at 03:06 PM (#4782824)
My point was that Aliotti was better once he got full control of the defense. At least at Oregon. I'm not sure how it was at UCLA. Here are Oregon's defense's FEI ratings since 2007 (which is as far as they go back on Football Outsiders): 9, 34, 24, 3, 5, 8, 16. That's a run of 7 years in which only once was his defense outside the top 25 in the country. And only twice when it was outside the top 16. FEI ratings are based on a defense's success on a possession basis, and it filters out garbage time possessions.

Okay, maybe you don't like FEI. Let's look at S&P+ then. S&P+ looks at defense on a per play basis, rather than a possession basis. Rankings since 2005: 16, 48, 22, 21, 16, 3, 12, 2, 25. Again, one year out of 9 when the defense was outside the top 25. That's not consistently elite, but it's nowhere close to bad. Solid to very good seems right, with one or two years above that.

The Stanford game you're thinking about was in 2001. And no, the defense did not play well. But the Ducks win that game if not for TWO blocked punts in the second half. And that defense held a good Colorado offense to 16 points in the Fiesta Bowl.

Maybe Aliotti was a slow learner or maybe he needed the freedom that Chip Kelly gave him to truly thrive. But the last 7 years or so, his defenses were good. The two years the Ducks had a legitimate shot at a national title (2009 and 2012), the defense gave up 22 and 17 points, respectively, in those seasons' only loss. That's not on the defense.
   92. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: August 31, 2014 at 03:39 PM (#4782830)
Good to see the national beats are reporting the same story I saw in the carnage of Clemson. If they all stay healthy, academically eligible(*) and out of jail(*) the Dawgs go 4, maybe 5 deep at RB, have a senior game manager at QB, and at least in the second half the sort of dominant, aggressive-but-smart, game changing defense that hasn't been seen in Athens in nigh unto forever. If Pruitt's defense gets Gurley/Marshall/Chubb/Michel the ball in favorable field positions regularly, that can be a national championship contending team.
   93. spike Posted: September 01, 2014 at 04:10 PM (#4783209)
Georgia had better get it done this year - they have as favorable schedule as they are likely to get for a long time. Gurley will be gone in the draft, Alabama is on the schedule as well as Auburn away in 2015. Florida and Tennessee have recruited very well for the last 2 years. The 2015 SEC East will be a lot tougher than 2013/4.
   94. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2014 at 08:53 PM (#4783367)
Welcome to the ACC, Louisville. Yes, this is the level of officiating you can expect regularly.
   95. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2014 at 08:59 PM (#4783370)
Petrino goes on 4th-and-inches from his own 23! Brass balls!
   96. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: September 01, 2014 at 09:13 PM (#4783380)
Maryland crushed James Mason U (yes I know)

A James Madison / George Mason combined select squad?
   97. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 01, 2014 at 09:17 PM (#4783382)
No, the acting school
   98. McCoy Posted: September 01, 2014 at 09:48 PM (#4783398)
Their football team certainly looked like a squad made up of actors.
   99. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 01, 2014 at 10:50 PM (#4783423)
Dude, anyone watching ESPN 3 skycam feed? It's pretty awesome.
   100. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 01, 2014 at 10:55 PM (#4783424)
Also, I was very pleased with Rutgers' victory over Wazzou. Neither team is a worldbeater, but flying three thousand miles for opening night is never easy for a bunch of 19-21 year olds, and to pull out a win as dogs is impressive. The offensive line and running game look very solid, and Nova is showing improvement. D-Backs still a big question mark but if the line can continue to play well it will take some pressure off.
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