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In particular, I can't wait to root against French super-jerk Mahiedine Mekhissi-Benabbad. Those poor mascots! What a dick!
Like Paul Hamm?
My reaction to that is always "this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen" then I sit there and watch until the end.
I really want to enjoy handball more than I do, it seems like I should like the sport but I can't get into it. Volleyball (the team version) I love though.
Shooty - race walking is the equivalent to harness racing. Why don't they just let the horses gallop?
Well, I suppose it could be analogous to swimming strokes other than freestyle.
edit: Same point as Rants, but different analogy, so NO COKE FOR YOU!
I think the problem is that racewalking isn't a peculiar kind of movement (like if you had to walk on your hands, or if you had to skip, taking two steps on one leg for every single step on the other), but rather just a restricted form of running where you look like you really want to run but you don't for some reason.
EDIT: cokes above.
I've always assumed harness racing evolved from when people had carthorses. People just seem to like to race.
Well, I suppose it could be analogous to swimming strokes other than freestyle.
This is a good point. I will think about why this seems less ridiculous to me than race walking, although the competitive breast stroke, I have to admit, makes me chuckle. Up down up down up down plus the goggles and that wide-mouthed sucking in of air. It definitely has a surreal quality to it.
Until Sepak Takraw becomes an Olympic sport, there is no justice. Maybe the best thing about wiziwig, front row, etc. is the chance to see obscure sports in non-Olympic settings. I've watched me plenty of mean badminton and sepak takraw that way.
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If you want to watch actually good sepak takraw, watch either the South East Asian games, or the Asian games, that's where the best are, Thailand vs Malaysia (to lesser extents, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, too). Their skill level is pretty unbelievable. Think soccer style overhead / bicycle kicks, used as a volleyball style smash, with the net height at about that of a badminton net, ie about shoulder height. Thailand and Malaysia also disagree on whom invented it, both claim it. That article, not surprisingly, is written more from a Malaysian viewpoint.
I have absolutely no idea who that is. The last Olympic event I ever saw was when Roy Jones absolutely beat the living hell out of that Korean kid in '88 and got robbed by the hometown judges. Haven't watched a second since.
Still beats Butterfly.
I don't understand racewalking at all. I know we've had a thread about it here before and the sport had its defenders, but it just makes no sense to me at an essential sporting level. I try to see the other POV as, obviously, it has its adherents, but I just can't take it seriously at all. I mean, ####, just start running already. RUN GODDAMMIT, RUN!
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Why not? The point is the testing of different athletic skills / abilities. Whether it is racewalking compared to running, the different swimming strokes, throwing different implements (shot, javelin, hammer), the 2 weightlifting techniques (and in the past 3) etc.
I have absolutely no idea who that is.
If only there were some way to find out who that is. Alas, there is none.
Then you missed that Americans got their revenge with Apolo Ohno, probably the most hated man in South Korea.
--equestrian events are celebrating a 100 years with the olympics since they got going at the 1912 games
--the fastest tickets for olympic events to be sold out are swimming and equestrian events. go figure
--equestrian is much more than dressage. i think if folks looked at eventing they would be pretty interested
--personally, i have long advocated shooting and equestrian have a combined event. because i can tell you from firsthand experience hitting anything while riding at a gallop is ####### hard.
and yes, the wallbanger household will be watching all of the equestrian events
And Paul Hamm doubled up on the revenge in '04. The Koreans are probably owed one.
Me too.
Archery
Beach Volleyball
Fencing
Gymnastics
Swimming
Table Tennis maybe
Tennis maybe (In theory I like watching tennis but whenever the big events are on throughout the year I never seem to end up watching them at all)
Some Track & Field stuff
Volleyball
Weightlifting (Not sure why....it's oddly fascinating)
Making that list made me realize just how big the gap is in my interest between Summer and Winter. There are a handful of Winter events that I am significantly more interested in than any Summer one.
Sure, because steps were never taken tp prevent this in the future.
Might as well say "I haven't watched baseball since <insert bad umpiring call of your choice>"
And truth be told, I'm not a big fan of judged sports anyway: figure skating, gymnastics, diving, boxing... they all seem rigged in one way or another. The good news is, they make up a small portion of the overall competition. but whatever floats you boat. I suspect your disdain has more to do with the IOC being dominated by dirty, liberal Europeans than with a couple of corrupt judges 24 years ago.
Europeans? What kind of slander is this?
Race walking seems just seems so unnatural. The non-freestyle strokes while slower, look like natural movements.
Men's volleyball is no fun because its usually tall guys who were a little two awkward to play basketball and you rarely get any rallies. Water polo is fun to watch because while all you see above water are heads, arms and the ball, you know underwater its just crazy violence.
This is a good point. I will think about why this seems less ridiculous to me than race walking, although the competitive breast stroke, I have to admit, makes me chuckle.
It's because walking and running are both totally natural, innate activities for human beings. Swimming is not - the different strokes were "invented," or at least developed over a long period of time. Even freestyle, at least the crawl we know of today, is probably less than 150 years old - in some quarters it's still called the Australian crawl, which gives you an idea of when it could have been developed.
One clue might be that he thinks South Koreans giving an unfair advantage to a South Korean are doing so because of their hatred of that longtime enemy of South Korea the United States.
From the previews I've read, Boyle's intent was to cram as much English stuff into the ceremony as possible. So expect to see Doctor Who fight orcs in schoolboy uniforms in front of Stonehenge.
Hey, the modern pentathlon is at least as weird as curling. On the other hand I don't remember EVER seeing it on TV so watchability must be low.
I love biathlon in the winter olympics. ModPent sounds like it should have similar appeal.
But [12] makes a good point that sports don't exist in a vacuum -- they exist because of our human history. Dressage and other equestrian sports seem kind of silly to me in this day and age, but at some points in history (and even today in some ways), that kind of human/horse control was really important to staying alive in certain situations. Usually situations where you're trying to kill *other* people, but still.
Edit: [19] There are people more familiar with dressage than eventing? I thought everyone only knew about the jumping parts. Or do I have my terminology wrong? My first love rode dressage so I was left equal parts horrified and fascinated by it.
Edit2: [24] My interest in the Winter Olympics waned a bit as more and more events that Americans were good at were added. I get it, kinda, that these are emerging popular sports and should be in the Olympics...but still.
Limited tickets are probably the answer.
The track and field events are in a giant stadium for 9 days... takes a while to sell them.
It would help cut down on costs, while also allowing each host city to have some local flavor. Like, if the USA were to get the 2024 or 2028 games, we'd probably add in baseball, softball, maybe some MMA and some action sports like skateboarding (American Football would be unlikely to be up to Olympic standards, especially if NFL players took part), while giving rugby and probably handball a Games off. Japan could have baseball, softball, karate and sumo wrestling (which apparently has a surprising amount of participation by Eastern Europeans). Spain could have Basque Pelota... etc.
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By the way, for all of the faults of the IOC (full of cronyism, regionalism, chauvinism, favoritism and countless other faults), NBC's coverage and the Olympics, I like it. A lot. I watch at least a little bit of almost all of the sports. I'm probably going to get up early at least a few times to watch some events live online. And, maybe I'm a romantic, but the idea that maybe, somehow, the Olympics can make us come together as one world for a week or two, still sounds good.
Hey, when does the baseball competition start?
Limited tickets are probably the answer.
I suspect these sports may also have the most cross-over appeal between the sexes (let's not discount the beefcake element in swimming)
Geez, boxing might be the simplest sport ever, two guys trying to beat the crap out of each other.
When the arms race to full plate armor had run its course, a sword fight could have lasted forever (if the fighters had been daft, that is) as there was little they could do to harm each other.
Magic Mike has made over $100 million at the box office (on a $7 million budget), so women are obviously no different than men when it comes to ogling.
And what's hard to understand, they never ever punch each other in the groin...
does he REALLY represent a large part of the american voting public???
sheesh
I have actually been surprised to hear from several people whose opinions I respect about movies that the film is actually a very nuanced take on the modern economy and gender roles and is a thoughtful piece worthy possibly of picture of the year, not the beefcake movie it is advertised as. I had no idea it was a Steven Soderbergh movie.
And uh, Olympics, yea. Who is favored in baseball this year? Japan?
Oh, right. So I guess I can go back to not giving a ####.
Hardly ever, you could ask Larry Holmes about that.
Not really. They're trying to score points. The guy who seems the most beaten-up at the end of the fight is often the winner. And in the Olympics the fights last about five minutes and there's all this safety padding so they couldn't beat the crap out of each other if they tried.
nope. the equestrian events go over a good many days. check out the nbc tv schedule. and the cross country course is spread out over hill and dale
equestrian events have a passtionate global following.
greco roman can be tedious because the wrestlers have to throw one another and not target the legs for takedowns. so it's two guys rope a doping to topple each other which looks like two men slow dancing.
The Bruce Dickinson?
good wrestlers become great negotiators
uh ... yeah ... that's what it looks like
History's first sport had to be a Point A to Point B footrace.
For men's gymnastics, the newer scoring system really helps in this regard. My eldest son has been doing gymnastics (transitioning from level 5 to level 6 this year) for the past four years and we've had a great time with it. The fact that a move is either completed or not (binary decision) and that there is no "artistic impression" component is great. (I mean, toes not pointed on the p-bars? then -0.3 per swing!) Rings and p-bars are his favorite and best events, and the scoring is pretty easy to grasp on these.
The girls' competitions were supposed to have implemented this scoring system a few years back, but I have yet to see it take effect in any of the girls' meets at our gym. Don't know if it is just a local issue, or if something slowed the introduction. Though, I want to say that when I've watched B1G women's gymnastics, I was still seeing scoring "out of 10" suggesting that SOMETHING happened to keep all the bogus scoring intact.
And yet, on a site with 99.5% baseball threads, here you are.
Good point. Like people who like to proclaim (sometimes over and over again) that they have so-and-so on ignore, Joey feels the need to post in a thread about something he has no interest in, that he has no interest in it.
edit: To be fair though, I take issue with the 99.5% number. Right now, hot topics is barely 50% baseball (breastfeeding, politics, NBA, soccer, Olympics being 5 of the top 7 as I type this.)
Hey, I was a good wrestler!
Yep, I was listening to Seventh Son of a Seventh Son when the topic of fencing came up, so I had to add that to to the thread.
That said, it's generally incompetence and not actual malice. (Again, Jones is the exception)
Figure skating used to be far worse. Open buying and selling of votes and package deals to boot.
That is kind of a fun thing to imagine. Two kids pointing at a tree and running to and from it.
Is there any evidence that other animals race for fun? Bonobos, Chimps? I know they race to avoid being eaten, but what about as a test of ability?
well, it's not an absolute rule.......
Hey, I was a good wrestler!
The great Swedish wrestlers seem to have the collective intelligence of a flower pot.
The Swedish Wrestling Federation kept a clear medal hope at home so they could send a director's daughter to the games, dumb #####.
There's certainly animals that race for sex. But maybe that wasn't what you had in mind.
Cool, but I was referring to this one.
I spent some time walking in the UK this spring and saw approximately 3 billion lambs running after each other in one way or another. All sorts of young animals chase each other around, though I'm not sure if you could call that racing.
My cats race and wrestle with each other. It seems to have a sporting element to it.
well, it's not an absolute rule.......
If you could only see the sad expression on my face right now, it would break your frozen Wisconsin heart.
I think Dolphins occasionally race each other for fun. At least when they are young. Of course, Dolphins are also one of the few other species on earth to kill stuff for shits and giggles, so....
Bonobos, I think, are only interested in sex. So I guess they'd just stay in the Olympic Village.
Oh yeah, table tennis. That is some weird, wild stuff. How the hell they see the ball, much less hit it, much less hit it to where they want it to go... I feel my ability to make contact against MLB pitching is better than my ability to successfully return an Olympic level TT smash.
Sometimes when I'm offshore, Dolphins will come and surf the bow wave. I can't fathom any other reason they do that than for fun. It's amazing to see.
seen it once seen it a 1000 times one of the horses reach out to challenge someone via a nip and then the two are off down the pasture before suddenly pulling up after hitting some hidden finish line known only to them. not goofing around. dead gallop
all the time
doubtful. i have no heart
Right now, it's showing a feature on a Brit cyclist - and the background music is off the Trainspotting soundtrack.
Edit: As noted by Harveys above...
Outstanding. Thanks.
glad to see at least some Republicans who aren't hiding from their traditional cultural values!
Same here, most likely.
i hide from nothing
They are only doing the tape delay?
Wow.
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