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Friday, July 27, 2012

OT: London Olympics Thread

A place to discuss sports that no one cares about for 3.9 years at a time.  Swimming, track, basketball, gymnastics, soccer, whatever.  I like ‘em obscure.

Team Handball: Can France (m) defend their gold?  Can South Korea (w) break the Northern European dominance of the sport?
Fencing: Can the US Women sweep the saber medals again?  How much fencing can I watch online before I realize I’m wasting my life?
Canoe Slalom: Can David Florence bring back gold for Great Britain in this, the greatest and most traditional of all summer olympic competitions?

And more!

Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 27, 2012 at 12:21 PM | 1691 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   201. cercle Posted: July 28, 2012 at 01:25 PM (#4194503)
Strange that on the US archery team, Wukie doesn't get to use a crossbow.
   202. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: July 28, 2012 at 01:30 PM (#4194509)
In the program listings, the show is called "XXX Summer Olympics"

You won't want to miss the pole vault.


Not to mention the sculls with coxswain.
   203. mex4173 Posted: July 28, 2012 at 01:31 PM (#4194511)
Wukie doesn't get to use a crossbow.


They should probably let him (her?) win anyway.
   204. Kurt Posted: July 28, 2012 at 01:41 PM (#4194515)
203 beat me to it. Let the Wukie win.
   205. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:05 PM (#4194521)
Not to mention the sculls with coxswain.


Chris Adcock was really slapping his shuttlecock around this morning.
   206. booond Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:15 PM (#4194527)
Watching the swimming and the announcers had no clue that Phelps was on the bubble for the final. Um guys, pay attention.
   207. frannyzoo Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:23 PM (#4194535)
Anybody figured out how to stop/kill the video online? I don't see a close feature. I also don't see a four-screen option, ala MLB.TV, which would seem perfect for this shindig.
   208. Starlin of the Slipstream (TRHN) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:25 PM (#4194538)
That London 2012 font is awful.
   209. I am going to be Frank Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:26 PM (#4194541)
NBC missed out on some free controversy by not placing dressage on MSNBC. It has to be the most boring Olympic event to watch. I think the parade of nations and the closing ceremonies are more exciting than this.
   210. frannyzoo Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:29 PM (#4194543)
Frank: My wife trains in dressage, and goes to the occasional dressage competition. I completely, utterly, painfully agree with you.
   211. JJ1986 Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:30 PM (#4194544)
Ok, the biggest difference between the men and women's soccer is the goalkeeping.


I think I am in love with the American women's goalie.
   212. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:33 PM (#4194548)
Hey, leave Hope Solo alone. I clearly saw her first.
   213. frannyzoo Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:40 PM (#4194553)
The Nam/Vezzali Fencing semi-final was great. Bronze to the Italian coming back from way back.
   214. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:41 PM (#4194554)
The bronze medal match in women's foil was awesome. The Italian came back from 4 down against the South Korean with like 25 seconds left to tie and then won in OT.
   215. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:44 PM (#4194557)
Woah, the Italians are going to sweep women's foil. I wish I had a quippy riposte about that. Instead I'm foiled and must make bad puns. At least I haven't started talking about Sabre-metrics. Argh.

edit: Why yes, I have been listening to a lot of Andy Zaltzman recently. Why do you ask?
   216. frannyzoo Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:45 PM (#4194559)
Sorry to step on your toes, Clarence. All-Italian Final..those Italian chicks know how to stab. Mafia, etc. jokes "inserted" here.
   217. Lassus Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:52 PM (#4194566)
Scott - did you get the email I sent you regarding the question you asked in a Mets thread?
   218. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:54 PM (#4194568)
Yeah, thanks Lassus.

If that's the reason, it's too bad.
   219. Lassus Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:59 PM (#4194570)
The bronze medal match in women's foil was awesome. The Italian came back from 4 down against the South Korean with like 25 seconds left to tie and then won in OT.

Wait.... I'm watching this now! Grrrrrr.....
   220. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:01 PM (#4194571)
Hey, leave Hope Solo alone. I clearly saw her first.


I think she's teamed up with the Wukie.
   221. Guapo Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:03 PM (#4194573)
Bring me Solo and the Wukie. They will all pay for this outrage.
   222. I am going to be Frank Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:03 PM (#4194574)
I had no idea a fencing arena was so Tron-like.
   223. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:04 PM (#4194576)
Wait.... I'm watching this now! Grrrrrr.....


If it makes you feel better, I missed the Phelps/Lochte race because I was so focused on fencing. >.<
   224. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:07 PM (#4194578)
Top level fencers are such prickly little bastards.
   225. frannyzoo Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:10 PM (#4194580)
Many of these Olympic sports would just be better slo-mo 100% of the time (fencing, badminton, table tennis, etc.). Although I still have trouble seeing the fencing points in slo-mo half the time.
   226. Lassus Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:12 PM (#4194581)
Fencing has lost out to women's volleyball.
   227. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:13 PM (#4194582)
I think I might be able to avoid being poked full of holes against these fencers if they were in super slo-mo, but i'm not sure.

Overtime!
   228. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:17 PM (#4194588)
Awesome. Great flying tackle/hug for the gold medal winner. Forza Italia!

Volleyball time now. USA! USA!
   229. frannyzoo Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:17 PM (#4194589)
I'm thinking they should go Laertes/Hamlet poison FTW in OT, but that was fun to watch, even poison aside.

Edit: It says "Women Individual Foil" as if "Individual" was an option. Is there "Group" foil? Because that would be way, way cool.
   230. mex4173 Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:33 PM (#4194600)
Have one big ol' melee; one fencer with a flaming foil.

   231. JustDan Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:42 PM (#4194608)
There is team foil. I don't have a clue how it works.
   232. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:43 PM (#4194612)
Have one big ol' melee; one fencer with a flaming foil.


Yeah, but Prince Philip will want to compete.
   233. smileyy Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:48 PM (#4194621)
There is team foil. I don't have a clue how it works.


A quick google suggests that its a round-robin event where a team of 3(?) each faces off against each of the fencers from another team of equal size.

Does this accommodate different fencing styles that might lead to weird individual results? That is, are there different styles of foil that might be kind of like rock-paper-scissors, where the rock guy happened have a tournament draw against a bunch of scissors, that have already knocked out the paper that might have beaten him?
   234. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: July 28, 2012 at 04:05 PM (#4194636)
I want to see a fencing battle royal.
   235. JustDan Posted: July 28, 2012 at 04:06 PM (#4194637)
I found this on the Olympic page:
In the Team events, teams of three fencers compete against their opponents over a series of nine three-minute bouts, with the aim of accumulating a maximum of 45 hits to win the match.

So, 3 minute bouts instead of 9 minute, and I guess it's up to 5 instead of 15.

source http://www.london2012.com/fencing/about/
   236. A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats Posted: July 28, 2012 at 04:12 PM (#4194644)
anyone else grow to hate the silver medalist in women's foil? she would scream after what she thought was every point and repeatedly demand replays.
   237. smileyy Posted: July 28, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4194649)

So, 3 minute bouts instead of 9 minute, and I guess it's up to 5 instead of 15.


Is it? If matches were to 5, you'd have to win all 9 to score 5 points. If matches were to 9, then the team with 45 would have won 5 out of 9 matches. Or is it some kind of aggregate scoring?
   238. Gamingboy Posted: July 28, 2012 at 05:02 PM (#4194668)
As expected, the Chinese have gotten a good jump, taking advantage of weight-lifting, shooting, and the areas of swimming they specialize in. And so far they are top-heavy. I almost get the feeling that maybe China focuses on simply the top one or two prospects and just ignores anybody who has "bronze" as their ceiling....


   239. JustDan Posted: July 28, 2012 at 05:09 PM (#4194672)
Is it? If matches were to 5, you'd have to win all 9 to score 5 points. If matches were to 9, then the team with 45 would have won 5 out of 9 matches. Or is it some kind of aggregate scoring?

The way it's worded makes me think that it is aggregate.

anyone else grow to hate the silver medalist in women's foil? she would scream after what she thought was every point and repeatedly demand replays.

Is she the one that beat Lee Kiefer? That was a strange match. Kiefer lost something like 15-12 in the first halfway through the first period. They would start and both would make contact in just a couple of seconds.

Saw some badminton.. man, that's not the backyard game I am used to. You need some quick reflexes to play that.
   240. BFFB Posted: July 28, 2012 at 05:15 PM (#4194675)
I assume your guys coverage caught the German guy giving the national team a weird Nazi salute while Boris Johnson pissed himself laughing in the background?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MPHLiWiISGU
   241. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 28, 2012 at 05:16 PM (#4194676)
forgot to mention that one of the queen of england's granddaughters is competing in the olympics as an equestrian

the queen is a true horse lover. she is darn 'english'.

it's great
   242. rfloh Posted: July 28, 2012 at 05:32 PM (#4194689)
"238. Gamingboy Posted: July 28, 2012 at 05:02 PM (#4194668)
As expected, the Chinese have gotten a good jump, taking advantage of weight-lifting, shooting, and the areas of swimming they specialize in. And so far they are top-heavy. I almost get the feeling that maybe China focuses on simply the top one or two prospects and just ignores anybody who has "bronze" as their ceiling...."

Not in weightlifting at least. They have a comprehensive system of training centres, and regular competitions. The competition to get onto the national team is fierce. Especially in the past, it wasn't unusual for world champions, world record holders, to not make the (WC / Olympics) team, causing raised eyebrows amongst the other countries. They don't play favourites. Their approach is very "sabermetric". There used to be a joke going around weightlifters that the Chinese national championships is more competitive the WC / Olympics. For example, Wang Ming Juan, who just won the gold easily in the 48s, is in her first Olympics, despite having been around for quite some time, despite being one of best the lifters in the 48s for some time.
   243. Howling John Shade Posted: July 28, 2012 at 06:03 PM (#4194706)
Destiny Hooker is either a terrible or an awesome thing to name your child, I can't decide.
   244. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 06:27 PM (#4194718)
240: I thought that was just an inopportune still frame I saw! Holy ####!

Olympic badminton is one of my favorites. So hardcore. It's like finding out real croquet involved swinging for the fences.
   245. I am going to be Frank Posted: July 28, 2012 at 06:39 PM (#4194723)
It was his left hand.

Handball is weird. Not sure why the defensive team is so passive and when you have to dribble. Also the way to play "defense" is to either shove or throw a forearm at the offensive player.

The penalty really is a joke. The success rate has to be above 90%.
   246. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4194735)
#NBCfail - popular now.

Apparently, it wasn't enough to tape-delay the living #### out of events -- when something big happens, NBC Nightly News will ruin the "surprise" by leading with the development. (Tonight, it was announcing the results of the men's 400 IM.)
   247. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4194742)
Well, #NBCFail is popular with me today because ... I can't seem to be able to watch *anything* online for more than about 10-15 minutes before it starts irrevocably locking Firefox up and forcing me to shut down and restart.
   248. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:18 PM (#4194745)
Well, #NBCFail is popular with me today because ... I can't seem to be able to watch *anything* online for more than about 10-15 minutes before it starts irrevocably locking Firefox up and forcing me to shut down and restart.


I've got the same problem. I'm just watching the BBC1 feed and whatever they are showing.
   249. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:23 PM (#4194746)
There's a memory leak in NBC's web player that will cause it to crash a lot of browsers. One browser page in 30 minutes is using 3 GB of RAM
From @Bubbaprog.
   250. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:26 PM (#4194748)
[249] You watch your ass, #RomneyFail!!!
   251. rfloh Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:29 PM (#4194750)
"Olympic badminton is one of my favorites. So hardcore. It's like finding out real croquet involved swinging for the fences."

Badminton is in something of a down cycle at the moment, IMHO, compared to the 80s, 90s, IMHO. Not as competitive, especially the women. It is basically China. All the other traditionally strong countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Denmark, have declined. Indonesia especially has declined quite badly. The country that produced Susi Susanti and Mia Audina in the late 80s and 90s doesn't even have a woman in the world top 10.

If you get interested in badminton, I suggest the Thomas and Uber cup. They are badminton's equivalent of tennis' Davis / Fed cups, or the Ryder cup. More like the Ryder than the Davis / Fed, in that they are considered very very important in badminton circles.
   252. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:34 PM (#4194752)
Only article I could find on NBC's tech issues:
...as athletic action began ramping up on Saturday, NBC's streaming service showed it was not up to the challenge. As we anticipated earlier, the service is stretched to the limit.

Numerous complaints were Tweeted and posted on the Internet. The first complaint was based on a misunderstanding. Many viewers were unaware that in order to stream the video, they had to submit their cable / satellite TV company username and password. That requirement hadn't been widely publicized.

Next, as viewers piled onto the Michael Phelps / Ryan Lochte 400 IM showdown, which wasn't broadcast live on any of NBC's various networks (and spoiler alert, which Lochte won, by the way, as Phelps finished fourth) the streaming service groaned and burped under the strain.

Not only was the stream itself a problem, so was the web app. Deadspin's Timothy Burke Tweeted that the player (which he said was from Google) was leaking memory, in Chrome, IE, and Firefox.

NBC had best work quickly to fix these issues. On Monday, it will see its version of Cyber Monday. People will be heading back to work, and since they will want to view events while they work (productivity will drop, of course), it will place a still further strain on NBC's servers.
   253. Gamingboy Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4194753)
There's a memory leak in NBC's web player that will cause it to crash a lot of browsers. One browser page in 30 minutes is using 3 GB of RAM



Well, that explains why I had to restart firefox about six times today and couldn't do anything else on my computer while I was doing so.
   254. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4194756)
Yeah, I got through the women's foil GM match, and then it went kaboom. After a break and a startup, I saw that tweet (Deadspin's Timothy Burke, btw) and so didn't try again.

(Forget) you, NBC.
   255. tshipman Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:40 PM (#4194758)
Is 'Destinee' the worst possible first name for a girl whose last name is Hooker?

Seems unnecessarily cruel by whomever made that decision.
   256. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:40 PM (#4194759)
Heather Cox sighting as beach volleyball* sideline reporter. How did NBC get her away from ABC/ESPN?

* - Cox played VB at... Pacific, I believe.
   257. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:43 PM (#4194762)
Well, that explains why I had to restart firefox about six times today and couldn't do anything else on my computer while I was doing so.

And here I was yelling at my computer instead of NBC.
   258. frannyzoo Posted: July 28, 2012 at 07:58 PM (#4194777)
It was fun to watch the memory usage explode watching earlier this afternoon. Fun in that "it's all I can do, because my computer is incapable of doing anything else, thanks to this memory leak" sort of way.
   259. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 28, 2012 at 08:05 PM (#4194784)
Yeah, it was frustrating, as was repeatedly being told I wasn't authenticated despite having just logged in. NBC completely Britta'd it.
   260. steagles Posted: July 28, 2012 at 08:58 PM (#4194826)
Yeah, it was frustrating, as was repeatedly being told I wasn't authenticated despite having just logged in. NBC completely Britta'd it.
#6seasonsandamovie
   261. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 28, 2012 at 09:24 PM (#4194861)
ryan seacrest= end of times

run for your lives
   262. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 28, 2012 at 09:29 PM (#4194862)
Right now, my local NBC affiliate is running its news show. 20 past the hour so time for sports... but it's also just moments from the start of the network's tape-delayed Saturday highlights!

And on the local sportscast's ticker, I see Lochte beats Phelps - the event that, in 10 minutes, will be highlighting the next 4 hours of NBC's time.

NBC, your halfway live-yet-taped bullshit is bullshit.
   263. Gamingboy Posted: July 28, 2012 at 09:37 PM (#4194867)
NBC sucks. Everybody knows this. The only reason they keep the Olympics forever is because, well, they throw obscene amounts of money at it.
   264. mex4173 Posted: July 28, 2012 at 09:38 PM (#4194869)
Is 'Destinee' the worst possible first name for a girl whose last name is Hooker?

Seems unnecessarily cruel by whomever made that decision.


"Cheep" or "Cheepee"
   265. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 28, 2012 at 09:48 PM (#4194873)
this showing all the us olympians with no shirts is getting creepy
   266. steagles Posted: July 28, 2012 at 09:50 PM (#4194874)
"trannie"
   267. Kurt Posted: July 28, 2012 at 09:51 PM (#4194875)
Am I crazy for wanting some scrap of teachnical analysis of the swimming events? Something beyond "How do you feel? What are your emotions right now?" would be nice.
   268. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 28, 2012 at 09:56 PM (#4194878)
the political ads are a real downer

   269. Gamingboy Posted: July 28, 2012 at 10:35 PM (#4194902)
Okay, weird thing I found on Wikipedia, the list of Olympic-recognized federations, AKA sports that, while they aren't part of the Olympic Program, could be, includes the international federation for Chess, Bridge and Billiards.

...
   270. Kurt Posted: July 28, 2012 at 11:40 PM (#4194944)
NBC, your halfway live-yet-taped ######## is ########.

You're going to blame NBC for an idiot local station's newsticker? The mothership has been spoiler-free - you just have to avoid local newscasts, the internet, etc.
   271. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: July 29, 2012 at 12:48 AM (#4194981)
If that german who slipped off the bars trying to land a flip was pretty good. Its a shame he fell off was a great performance up til then
   272. Random Transaction Generator Posted: July 29, 2012 at 01:03 AM (#4194993)
Here in Canuckistan, I was able to watch four different channels showing four different live events (during the morning and afternoon):

NBC (gymnastics, I think)
CTV
SportsNet
TSN

I can't imagine having everything tape-delayed.
   273. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: July 29, 2012 at 01:10 AM (#4194995)
I would hope what they are showing now is live since its daytime there now
   274. Jim Wisinski Posted: July 29, 2012 at 01:31 AM (#4195003)
Ok the bows in archery are a little ridiculous.


Agreed. I really like the archery competitions but I'd like it better if they were limited to using wood longbows instead of those insanely high-tech monstrosities.

I'm watching the primetime telecast now; it frankly really sucks that after all the coverage from earlier where they just go from event to event showing the action with minimal talking all the top events get stuck with Costas smarminess and the general talking and bullshit that networks think people need to see and hear instead of just letting us watch the damn sports.

May/Treanor should be awarded an automatic victory over the Australian team since the Aussies are wearing pants to a beach volleyball match.

I was watching the archery earlier and getting a little tired of hearing the color commentator (a former Olympic medalist) talk about the pressure, how guys are obviously a little tense when they miss, etc. It's the same crap as so many commentators in other sports spew, like it's impossible for someone to just freaking miss once in a while because this stuff is hard to do. No, it all has to be about rising to the occasion or succumbing to the pressure because people that played the sport for some reason need to make it all about the mental game instead of just playing up how hard the skill is to master.

May/Treanor are so damn good. Even when they're playing these close sets they still seem dominant. That last point was amazing.
   275. phredbird Posted: July 29, 2012 at 01:51 AM (#4195009)
That London 2012 font is awful.


i don't know what they were thinking. seriously, it looks like an alphabet concocted by someone who's not an english speaker.
   276. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 29, 2012 at 02:07 AM (#4195012)
Here in Canuckistan, I was able to watch four different channels showing four different live events (during the morning and afternoon):


There's live coverage during the day on MSNBC, CNBC, Bravo, Discovery, and a couple others, as well as dedicated Olympic Soccer and Olympic basketball channels. The tape delay stuff is for the prime time NBC broadcast.
   277. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 29, 2012 at 04:28 AM (#4195028)
Woo, time for more olympics! Field hockey, ahoy!

I've basically begun going to bed at 7pm and waking up after midnight so I can cram live Olympic events down my gullet.
   278. manchestermets Posted: July 29, 2012 at 05:24 AM (#4195030)
I don't know if it's been posted here before, but here's a guide to accessing the BBC feeds from outside the UK.
   279. Swedish Chef Posted: July 29, 2012 at 06:38 AM (#4195033)
Best name today: Spanish swimmer Aschwin Wildeboer Faber
   280. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 29, 2012 at 07:02 AM (#4195034)
My friend rowed with the bow of the US women's lightweight 2 person sculls in high school and against three members of the women's 8+ in college. I'm learning a lot about rowing right now.
   281. Ron J Posted: July 29, 2012 at 07:08 AM (#4195035)
#269 I know bridge desperately wants to be an Olympic sport. They even implemented full blown drug testing for some events. And as I've mentioned before, there have been a number of snooker players banned for positive drug tests. Including one for steroids.
   282. bunyon Posted: July 29, 2012 at 09:44 AM (#4195056)
So it may just be me, but the "human interest" story on the American road racer that started with "used to work at Lehman Brothers as an investment banker" and then touted how she bravely took a "risk" by leaving in "2008" to pursue biking left me hoping she would wreck badly. To sum up: after I helped destroy the economy, I blew my money on becoming an Olympian. Tee hee!
   283. Gamingboy Posted: July 29, 2012 at 10:04 AM (#4195065)
France will foul themselves out of this game.
   284. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 29, 2012 at 10:17 AM (#4195070)
This women's road race final in the rain is pretty damn great.

After watching the women's skeet medal round, it's hard to accept that these events both get the same medal. Come on.
   285. Gamingboy Posted: July 29, 2012 at 10:25 AM (#4195074)
After watching the women's skeet medal round, it's hard to accept that these events both get the same medal. Come on.


It's hard to accept that Synchronized Swimming gets a medal and Baseball doesn't. The Olympics are inherently weird.
   286. rfloh Posted: July 29, 2012 at 10:35 AM (#4195076)
"It's hard to accept that Synchronized Swimming gets a medal and Baseball doesn't. The Olympics are inherently weird."

No it isn't. Not when the best players never bothered to show up. Baseball in the Olympics just can't work.
   287. Howie Menckel Posted: July 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM (#4195078)

I can't decide if there are too many swimming events - or if the Olympics are not missing out by failing to add half-court basketball, right-hand-dribble-only basketball, six-minute-game basketball, and 120-minute games by actual clock (that would take 4+ hours to play), with no timeouts allowed.

   288. Gamingboy Posted: July 29, 2012 at 10:42 AM (#4195080)
Best players don't show up for soccer (although soccer is so popular globally that it doesn't really matter). And, soon, not basketball either (NBA wants U-23 format too). Maybe not even hockey, if the NHL doesn't work something out. Really, big professional team sports in general always seem out of place in the Olympics.
   289. Gamingboy Posted: July 29, 2012 at 10:48 AM (#4195081)
I can't decide if there are too many swimming events - or if the Olympics are not missing out by failing to add half-court basketball, right-hand-dribble-only basketball, six-minute-game basketball, and 120-minute games by actual clock (that would take 4+ hours to play), with no timeouts allowed.


The Youth Olympics (a IOC event that hasn't caught on yet) has 3-on-3 basketball.
   290. mex4173 Posted: July 29, 2012 at 10:48 AM (#4195082)
Great, Canada's first medal: bronze in 3m women's synchronized diving. One of them became the first Canadian with a medal in 4 consecutive Games.
   291. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: July 29, 2012 at 10:55 AM (#4195083)
Great, Canada's first medal: bronze in 3m women's synchronized diving. One of them became the first Canadian with a medal in 4 consecutive Games.

Is there a Canadian with a medal in 4 Olympics that were not consecutive?
   292. Good cripple hitter Posted: July 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM (#4195085)
Is there a Canadian with a medal in 4 Olympics that were not consecutive?

Yes, a rower named Lesley Thompson won medals in 84, 92, 96, and 2000. She's trying to win a fifth this year.
   293. mex4173 Posted: July 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM (#4195086)
Although it wasn't mentioned, it looks like this is a summer only record. 4 [female] hockey players and 2 [1m/1f] speed skaters have medals in 4 straight games.


And there's however one wants to treat Clara Hughes. '96, '00, '02, '06, '10
   294. rfloh Posted: July 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM (#4195089)
". Gamingboy Posted: July 29, 2012 at 10:42 AM (#4195080)
Best players don't show up for soccer (although soccer is so popular globally that it doesn't really matter). And, soon, not basketball either (NBA wants U-23 format too). Maybe not even hockey, if the NHL doesn't work something out. Really, big professional team sports in general always seem out of place in the Olympics.
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Sure they don't. But as you say that is partly because soccer is so globally popular that the IOC desperately wants it in. And while the best players don't all show up, pretty good ones do show up. Are you going go claim that the level of the soccer players showing up, for example, Suarez of Uruguay, are at the same level of the baseball players who showed up?

With the baseball season being in direct conflict with the Olympics, there is no way that baseball can work in the Olympics. Baseball is better off with the WBC for international play.
   295. Gamingboy Posted: July 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM (#4195090)
Big news from gymnastics: Presumed US individual women's all-around Gold Medal contender Jordyn Wieber doesn't qualify for medal round in All-Around, upstaged by fellow US team member Ally Raisman.

This concludes your shocking going-to-be-tape-delayed update on a sport that people only pay attention to in leap years.

Sure they don't. But as you say that is partly because soccer is so globally popular that the IOC desperately wants it in. And while the best players don't all show up, pretty good ones do show up. Are you going go claim that the level of the soccer players showing up, for example, Suarez of Uruguay, are at the same level of the baseball players who showed up?

With the baseball season being in direct conflict with the Olympics, there is no way that baseball can work in the Olympics. Baseball is better off with the WBC for international play.


Well, the NPB was sending it's guys to the Olympics, as were the Cubans and Koreans, so that mixed with the prospects from the USA, I'd say it wasn't THAT much lower than what soccer was sending.


While I agree WBC is better for baseball (and better baseball) than the Olympics tournament was, what needs to be noted is that in many countries, funding for Olympic sports are MUCH higher. That is probably the biggest reason for baseball/softball to keep trying to get back in.
   296. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: July 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM (#4195100)
Well, the NPB was sending it's guys to the Olympics, as were the Cubans and Koreans, so that mixed with the prospects from the USA, I'd say it wasn't THAT much lower than what soccer was sending.

The Brazil soccer team is pretty stacked this year, since many of their best players right now are under 23 and most of this team should be their World Cup team for 2014. Of course, they've struggled in their first two games so maybe they're not as stacked as everyone believes...
   297. Tripon Posted: July 29, 2012 at 11:52 AM (#4195104)
LONDON – She's 16 years old, and for 50 meters on Saturday night, she swam faster than U.S. superstar Ryan Lochte. And now China's Ye Shiwen is at the center of some controversial buzz at the Aquatics Center of these Olympic Games.
Shiwen smashed the world record in the women's 400-meter IM and took gold Saturday night, torching the final 100 meters in the event and coming from behind to beat U.S. 400 IM champion Elizabeth Beisel. Shiwen shaved more than a second off Australian Stephanie Rice's world record in her win, finishing at 4:28.43. But it was her final 100 meters – the freestyle leg of the event – that raised eyebrows. Not only did Shiwen go virtually stroke-for-stroke with Lochte – who had won gold in the men's 400 IM earlier in the night – she beat Lochte in the final 50 meters.


Mind you, nobody knew who Lochte was until two nights ago. Superstar, my butt.
   298. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 29, 2012 at 11:59 AM (#4195106)
Yeah, until two nights ago Lochte had only won six Olympic medals and had only been named World Swimmer of the Year in 2010 and 2011. The very picture of anonymity.
   299. Tripon Posted: July 29, 2012 at 12:01 PM (#4195109)
Lochte still suffers from the Olympic myopia.
   300. Gamingboy Posted: July 29, 2012 at 12:14 PM (#4195114)
Speaking of soccer earlier, I'd just like to note how bizarre it is that this is the first time in decades that the UK has had a united team.

I know, I know, it's because the individual parts of the Kingdom play separately due to historical, traditional and regionalistic reasons, but it still is weird. And it's weird that apparently only the English and Welsh actually decided to contribute to the Olympic team.

Although, come to think of it, if "our" football was a major international sport, I'm sure Texas would want their own team...
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