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OT: London Olympics Thread

A place to discuss sports that no one cares about for 3.9 years at a time.  Swimming, track, basketball, gymnastics, soccer, whatever.  I like ‘em obscure.

Team Handball: Can France (m) defend their gold?  Can South Korea (w) break the Northern European dominance of the sport?
Fencing: Can the US Women sweep the saber medals again?  How much fencing can I watch online before I realize I’m wasting my life?
Canoe Slalom: Can David Florence bring back gold for Great Britain in this, the greatest and most traditional of all summer olympic competitions?

And more!

Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 27, 2012 at 12:21 PM | 1691 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   501. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:00 AM (#4196796)
I've heard about Imboden, isn't he still a teenager?
   502. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:20 AM (#4196807)
Yeah. 18.
   503. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:47 AM (#4196823)
Man, I think Race can take him. I'm so nervous! 2-1 Race!
   504. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:50 AM (#4196828)
Baldini taking over.
   505. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:51 AM (#4196830)
Man, Race ties it back up at 5!

If you are not watching this, why watch the olympics...
   506. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:51 AM (#4196831)
Baldini screams like he's won a gold medal every time he gets a touch...
   507. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:54 AM (#4196835)
9-5 Baldini at the first break. Baldini's attack is vicious and Race can't parry-riposte effectively. Meanwhile, Baldini's handling Race's attacks fairly well.

there's a reason why Baldini is a gold medalist and world champion. I had hoped he would be more washed up then this....
   508. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:56 AM (#4196839)
He's just toying with Imboden. I don't even follow Fencing and I can tell Imboden is completely outmatched here.
   509. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:56 AM (#4196841)
Baldini's flicks are unreal.
   510. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:58 AM (#4196843)
OK, Race breaks the run.
   511. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:58 AM (#4196846)
Holy ####, this is fencing.
   512. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:59 AM (#4196847)
Oh, getting back into it...
   513. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:00 AM (#4196849)
And as soon as I say that, Baldini goes on a run again and wins.
   514. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:00 AM (#4196851)
the german rider tied for the lead withdrew?
   515. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:02 AM (#4196853)
:(


Oh well. Nine touches on Baldini. Man up for the next World Cup, Race.
   516. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:02 AM (#4196854)
Baldini's parry-ripostes were simply unfreaking believable.
   517. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:06 AM (#4196858)
Man, after waiting to watch Imboden for so long, it went by so fast. I can't imagine how he must feel. I think there was probably a little too much optimism about him. His two great finishes at Catania and Paris came by knocking off Peter Joppich, who is obviously not what he once was.

   518. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:13 AM (#4196866)
The US Judoka (Stevens) looks like he's been in a bar fight. Has bandaged "mummifying" parts of his face.
   519. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:18 AM (#4196870)
Well, there is still teams. I think USA might be able to handle France in the first round of the team foil. Yes, it's France, but Sintes and Le Peychoux are Lucien Gaudin.
   520. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:18 AM (#4196871)
God, someone beat an Italian foilist already. come on Ota!
   521. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:22 AM (#4196875)
14-14 Ota vs. Cassara going to overtime. Cassara is top 2 in the world, and this is a bit of surprise. But Ota has had some great finishes at world events as well. I actually called this being tight in the fencing forum thread.
   522. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:24 AM (#4196880)
Stevens lost in Judo (although he'll have chance at bronze), but, man, he was scrappy. His face had at least two wrapping bandages around him but he kept fighting and it looked like it was going to be pretty close. Wonder if he'll be good enough to go in the bronze....
   523. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:35 AM (#4196887)
the queen has to be thrilled with zara phillips placing 8th in eventing.

and england of course. the young lady did well

but how about the germans getting 1st and 3rd?
   524. hokieneer Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:47 AM (#4196905)
Why are all the foil QF held at the same time? Not very spectator friendly. That hard pressed for time?
   525. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM (#4196917)
And just as I say that, Cassara falls behind that wily Egyptian 13-9. Oh Man, has an African ever made the top 4?
   526. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:00 AM (#4196919)
And DOWN GOES WORLD CHAMP CASSARA! Pretty amazing.

Meanwhile, Baldini fencing like a man determined after being booted out of Beijing for false doping allegations. The top 4 should be fascinating.
   527. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:04 AM (#4196923)
And Aspromonte got rocked by Lei. Holy cow, the Italians just got decimated! Hurrah! Now I can root for Baldini to win gold without puking.
   528. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:05 AM (#4196926)
Just confirmed: no African has EVER won an olympic medal in men's foil (perhaps not in fencing, period). This is potential history being made by Abouelkassem, though he still needs to win one more bout.
   529. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:10 AM (#4196932)
Check Olympics-Reference, WJ. Surely that would know.... it's the B-Ref of Olympics, after all...
   530. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:12 AM (#4196939)
Korea beats China, and boy is that Korean excited!
   531. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:13 AM (#4196943)
So the final four is Italy, China, Korea, Egypt.


I don't think anyone saw that coming.
   532. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:18 AM (#4196951)
Just checked, an no African nation has ever won an olympic medal in fencing. Cool!
   533. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:43 AM (#4196989)
I wonder what other long-time traditional Olympic events there are where ENTIRE CONTINENTS have been shut out?
   534. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:55 AM (#4197000)
Is it that surprising? Some regions of the world just have no tradition of certain sports, and no governments that want to make massive "prestige" investments in teaching them to people.

The entire continent of South America barely ever does anything at the Olympics except in volleyball, basketball, soccer and sailing.
   535. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 12:03 PM (#4197011)

Is it that surprising? Some regions of the world just have no tradition of certain sports, and no governments that want to make massive "prestige" investments in teaching them to people.

The entire continent of South America barely ever does anything at the Olympics except in volleyball, basketball, soccer and sailing.


It isn't really surprising, although with how long some of these events have been going, you'd have to think that there would be just a freak victory somewhere- like having that one good gymnast, runner or swimmer that gets in there and medals in a event.
   536. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM (#4197028)
It isn't really surprising, although with how long some of these events have been going, you'd have to think that there would be just a freak victory somewhere- like having that one good gymnast, runner or swimmer that gets in there and medals in a event.


Well, that seems to be happening before our eyes in Men's foil today. Though I wouldn't call it freak. Dude has looked awesome and has knocked off two World Champions in Joppich and Cassara.
   537. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: July 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM (#4197031)
It isn't really surprising, although with how long some of these events have been going, you'd have to think that there would be just a freak victory somewhere- like having that one good gymnast, runner or swimmer that gets in there and medals in a event.

You could also have someone from Europe or the U.S. with dual citizenship, who gets shut out of their own country's team and competes for their ancestral homeland instead. For example, French-born Benjamin Boukpeti won a surprise bronze for Togo in slalom canoe in Beijing. It is the only Olympic medal Togo has ever won in any sport. But such things are rare almost by definition.
   538. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 12:21 PM (#4197037)
Yeah, it seems like most of the Table Tennis field is Chinese Expats...
   539. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:10 PM (#4197135)
Fantastic bout so far. You don't see this much counter-riposting in fencing these days.
   540. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:12 PM (#4197139)
Baldini in serious trouble.
   541. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:15 PM (#4197145)
See! That's what <1 second running off looks like.
   542. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:20 PM (#4197149)
Catastrophe for Italy.
   543. Random Transaction Generator Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:21 PM (#4197151)
   544. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:28 PM (#4197157)
the german winner in eventing is the first person ever to be world champion, european champion and olympic champion at the same time.
   545. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:36 PM (#4197174)
Harves, this is the fencing thread. Take it outside!
   546. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:39 PM (#4197177)
Jesus, 2-1 at the first break. But what action!
   547. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:51 PM (#4197201)
This is a nutty, high flying bout.
   548. hokieneer Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:52 PM (#4197203)
a red card? WTF is this
   549. Random Transaction Generator Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:53 PM (#4197205)
The neverending tennis match ended at 25-23.

Sad face for Canadian. :(
   550. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:57 PM (#4197212)
Both guys have red cards for falling down. It's like watching Italian soccer.
   551. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 01:59 PM (#4197217)
This. Is. Nuts.
   552. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 02:02 PM (#4197223)
History! First fencing medal for Africa.
   553. Chicago Joe Posted: July 31, 2012 at 02:22 PM (#4197251)
This field hockey is not so great.
   554. I am going to be Frank Posted: July 31, 2012 at 02:36 PM (#4197270)
I am a fan of the field hockey uniforms.
   555. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 03:07 PM (#4197303)
Aspromonte, Cassara, Baldini....the great Italian washout of 2012.
   556. hokieneer Posted: July 31, 2012 at 03:30 PM (#4197333)
It appears Lei has never faced a lefty before. He has lunged in chest first at Abouelkassem at least 3-4 times while trying to wrap his left hand around and inside. To the untrained eye, looked like easy points for the Egyptian.
   557. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 03:30 PM (#4197334)
Fantastic gold medal match. Aboulkessem's counter attacks are so ballsy. In the first period, I thought the preparations by Lei were a bait to get him to counter, but whatever it is, it ain't working.

Should be a heck iof an ending.
   558. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 03:32 PM (#4197341)
Two touches to glory. If Lei can simply finish his attacks he can beat those counters.
   559. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 03:33 PM (#4197342)
To the untrained eye, looked like easy points for the Egyptian.

It's still Lei's right of way, and still a risky risky attempt by the Egyptian. If Lei finishes and puts a light on, even after he gets hit, its his attack. But Abouelkassem's timing and distance is perfect.
   560. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 03:34 PM (#4197346)
And a nice stop hit by Lei to give him a taste of his medicine.
   561. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 03:36 PM (#4197350)
Aw, nuts. Another gold for china.
   562. hokieneer Posted: July 31, 2012 at 03:36 PM (#4197351)
hmm it appears I need to learn the rules of this fencing.
   563. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 03:37 PM (#4197353)
The counterattacks did him in once Lei realized that's all he was going to do.
   564. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4197355)
Note my post in 558. I should be a fencing play by play guy.
   565. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:08 PM (#4197503)
Michael Phelps and Team USA swam like it was 2008 and, well, let's just say that I'm putting money that NBC will involve the words "Greatest Olympic Champion" tonight.
   566. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:44 PM (#4197531)
Tunisia putting up a really good fight so far.
   567. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:53 PM (#4197538)
Gbr so needs Ben Gordon
   568. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4197562)
Hey, WJ, something I noticed: There's no women's team sabre in the Olympics this year, but there were in Beijing. Why?
   569. Kurt Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:26 PM (#4197720)
Phelps' mom was the funniest thing so far this week.
   570. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:54 PM (#4197747)
They can only give ten medals total in fencing, so every olympics they leave one weapon for each gender out. This year its ws and me.
   571. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:03 PM (#4197750)
They can only give ten medals total in fencing, so every olympics they leave one weapon for each gender out. This year its ws and me.


That is both incredibly stupid and yet also entirely expected with the IOC.
   572. JJ1986 Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4197752)
I am very opposed to the appropriation of the term "fab five".
   573. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:18 PM (#4197753)
I am very opposed to the appropriation of the term "fab five".


Announcers like alliteration.
   574. JJ1986 Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:41 PM (#4197763)
Yeah, but Fab Five was the Michigan basketball players. It's basically a proper noun.
   575. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 11:54 PM (#4197764)
Yeah, but Fab Five was the Michigan basketball players. It's basically a proper noun.


NBC won't let sports fans watch events live as a way to inflate the ratings of their casual-audience-wanting-a-human-interest-story primetime broadcasts, you think they give a damn for history?

Besides, "Magnificent Seven" had been taken already as well.
   576. tshipman Posted: August 01, 2012 at 12:36 AM (#4197776)
Yeah, but Fab Five was the Michigan basketball players. It's basically a proper noun.


I'm sorry, but the NCAA records inform me that Michigan did not have a basketball team for those years. You must be mistaken.
   577. vortex of dissipation Posted: August 01, 2012 at 12:51 AM (#4197782)
Women's badminton turns into a farce as four teams intentionally try to lose to get a "better" draw - South Korea and Indonesia both try to lose the same match, with both teams getting disqualified, only to have the disqualification later rescinded...
   578. Yardape Posted: August 01, 2012 at 02:22 AM (#4197799)
Is this just us Americans/Westerners being sour grapes, or might it really be something.


Some of both, but sour grapes are definitely part. For proof, compare the NBC announcers' "I'm not saying, I'm just saying" routine with Ye to the kid gloves they're going to give to convicted American drug cheat Jessica Hardy when she swims.
   579. AJMcCringleberry Posted: August 01, 2012 at 04:04 AM (#4197814)
I don't understand why it's okay to accuse someone of doping based on absolutely nothing.

Baseball writers don't know what you mean.

They can only give ten medals total in fencing

What's the purpose of that? Swimming has about 267 medals.
   580. AJMcCringleberry Posted: August 01, 2012 at 04:10 AM (#4197815)
Field hockey looks bad for your back, they should make the sticks longer.

Yes, I'm watching field hockey. The Olympics are great, I'm watching sports I don't know the rules to.
   581. Swedish Chef Posted: August 01, 2012 at 04:28 AM (#4197817)
What's the purpose of that? Swimming has about 267 medals.

They have probably just not begged and kowtowed enough yet.

Swimming is the backbone of the first week of the Olympics and have entrenched power. Swimming depends on the Olympics as their big showcase, but the Olympics also needs swimming as the big event before track & field.
   582. AJMcCringleberry Posted: August 01, 2012 at 05:06 AM (#4197823)
Handball looks fun. Maybe my favorite obscure sport.
   583. Gamingboy Posted: August 01, 2012 at 07:28 AM (#4197830)


I'm sorry, but the NCAA records inform me that Michigan did not have a basketball team for those years. You must be mistaken.



Heh.
   584. Gamingboy Posted: August 01, 2012 at 07:31 AM (#4197831)
By the way, I'd like to say that in my opinion, if I could have the athleticism of the average athlete of any sport, I'd probably want to have the athleticism of a Water Polo player. They can swim, they have the physicality of hockey players, and the endurance of soccer players.
   585. Gamingboy Posted: August 01, 2012 at 07:51 AM (#4197836)
Those badminton players apparently have been disqualified again, for good this time, according to Twitter.
   586. Swedish Chef Posted: August 01, 2012 at 07:53 AM (#4197837)
By the way, I'd like to say that in my opinion, if I could have the athleticism of the average athlete of any sport, I'd probably want to have the athleticism of a Water Polo player. They can swim, they have the physicality of hockey players, and the endurance of soccer players.

I'm so vain that I'd choose pole vaulter, because they train all the muscles that make you look good but nothing to excess.
   587. Bitter Mouse Posted: August 01, 2012 at 08:37 AM (#4197849)
The Olympics are great, I'm watching sports I don't know the rules to.


I keep running into sports where I have no idea what they are trying to do, the rules, strategy anything. It is great.

By the way, I'd like to say that in my opinion, if I could have the athleticism of the average athlete of any sport, I'd probably want to have the athleticism of a Water Polo player.


For real athleticism you have to go to Olympic village and the other events.
   588. bachslunch Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:05 AM (#4197867)
Seeing the continual footage of Olympic parents in the audience on camera is getting really, really old and irritating. Call me a grinch if you must.
   589. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:06 AM (#4197870)
Handball looks fun. Maybe my favorite obscure sport.

For years, I've considered handball the consensus favorite obscure sport of good sportswriters. Take that how you will.
   590. Gamingboy Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:48 AM (#4197908)
I'm still preparing my American Team Handball League (ATBL). 8 teams, 32 game schedule, playing every two or three days, playing immediately after the end of the NBA post-season, except for Olympic years, where it would start earlier so that the Olympics would fit into the All-Star break. Teams would be split between major markets like New York and LA, as well as markets where there is no NBA and/or NHL competition. Players would be mix of foreign professionals and Americans recruited from DII and DIII basketball. Now just need a billionaire investor.
   591. Gamingboy Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:54 AM (#4197911)
Uh oh, Nakayama closing in on Zagunis.

Nevermind, Zagunis went on a run and won.
   592. zack Posted: August 01, 2012 at 10:10 AM (#4197923)
I am very opposed to the appropriation of the term "fab five".


I've had 'Rapture' stuck in my head for two days thanks to this. Fortunately there are worse songs to have stuck in your head.

   593. zack Posted: August 01, 2012 at 10:25 AM (#4197931)
The behaviour of those women's badminton players was really terrible. It's the ####### olympics!

That said, there should never be a situation in a tournament where you are incentivized to lose. If there aren't enough courts to play the games simultaneously, then randomize the draw or something.
   594. Gamingboy Posted: August 01, 2012 at 10:36 AM (#4197939)
Zagunis and Wozniak still alive in quarters of Sabre.
   595. zack Posted: August 01, 2012 at 10:38 AM (#4197941)
Zagunis and Wozniak still alive in quarters of Sabre.


Segway fencing is an Olympic sport?!
   596. Swedish Chef Posted: August 01, 2012 at 10:46 AM (#4197947)
Teams would be split between major markets like New York and LA, as well as markets where there is no NBA and/or NHL competition.

Write me up for the Portland Vinyls franchise.
   597. booond Posted: August 01, 2012 at 10:57 AM (#4197962)
The behaviour of those women's badminton players was really terrible. It's the ####### olympics!


Why should the Olympics be different than any other facet of life or sports? They were attempting to use the rules in a manner to gain an advantage.
   598. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: August 01, 2012 at 11:06 AM (#4197969)
The sport I would invest in if I were a rich dude is women's roller derby. That sport is a good time. Come on IOC, make it happen!
   599. Gamingboy Posted: August 01, 2012 at 11:06 AM (#4197970)
Zagunis to semis. Wozniak lost.

Also, you know how USA boxing was doing well over the weekend. Well, the weekend is over.
   600. zack Posted: August 01, 2012 at 11:11 AM (#4197981)
Why should the Olympics be different than any other facet of life or sports? They were attempting to use the rules in a manner to gain an advantage


The Olympics are supposed to be different from other sporting enterprises, that's what I mean. I realize they are not.

And I love sportsmanship, so I wish it weren't so, but the blame in the badminton scandal is entirely on the organizers for setting up a situation that allowed it. As it turns out, they were even told by the coaches at the beginning of the olympics that this would happen, and they dismissed it out of hand.
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