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Tuesday, March 19, 2013

OT: March Madness Thread—

For some reason the OT: College Basketball Thread has been closed, just in time for March Madness.  So let’s use this thread for all of our NCAA Tournament discussion (and NIT, CBI, et al).

The title link goes to Ken Pomeroy’s 2013 NCAA tournament log5 predictions for each round of the tournament.

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   101. SoSH U at work Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:39 AM (#4394177)
Thanks Hokie. Interesting stuff.
   102. just plain joe Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:14 AM (#4394206)
I'd love to see the college game do away with allowing teams to call timeouts after they score.


I don't mind that as much as the media timeouts every four minutes. Is is just me or are they getting longer?
   103. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:20 AM (#4394213)
There was some pseudo explanation from the committee about Oregon being a 12 because of the travel arrangements with regard to the first 4 games in Dayton.


That seems really unfair to Oklahoma St.
   104. SoSH U at work Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:30 AM (#4394221)


I don't mind that as much as the media timeouts every four minutes. Is is just me or are they getting longer?


As a former sportswriter who covered college basketball, my objection is to calling them "media timeouts." They sure as hell weren't called for our benefit, and they wouldn't be called if the game was just being broadcast on the radio or online. They exist for one medium only, so quit trying to spread the blame, Sean McDonough.

   105. hokieneer Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:35 AM (#4394226)
As a former sportswriter who covered college basketball, my objection is to calling them "media timeouts." They sure as hell weren't called for our benefit, and they wouldn't be called if the game was just being broadcast on the radio or online. They exist for one medium only, so quit trying to spread the blame, Sean McDonough.


They are even called in DII games, two mandatory media breaks per half. I imagine 85%+ of DII games have 0 media members present.
   106. SoSH U at work Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM (#4394233)
They are even called in DII games, two mandatory media breaks per half. I imagine 85%+ of DII games have 0 media members present.


There's probably a kid from the campus newspaper and maybe the local paper. But I can assure you, those guys would rather the guys just keep playing. Dragging the game out longer than it needs to be is at the absolute bottom of the typical sportswriter's wish list.
   107. hokieneer Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:39 AM (#4394236)
That seems really unfair to Oklahoma St.


It is, but it happens every year. Not only does the committee have to pick the 34 best at large and seed 68 total teams; but they have to factor in travel, prior matchups, conference spacing in the bracket, unique parameters (BYU won't play on Sunday), etc.

I've always thought that once you get past the first 4-5 in a region into the 6-11 range, the seeding doesn't matter a whole lot. A lot of teams are moved up/down in this range to accommodate all the additional parameters.
   108. hokieneer Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:42 AM (#4394241)
Dragging the game out longer than it needs to be is at the absolute bottom of the typical sportswriter's wish list.



Then you would be a big fan of Jim Crutchfield at West Liberty
   109. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 12:00 PM (#4394264)
Simmons' online Grantland March Madness broadcast is pretty fun. Cousin Sal has already made a "Simmons getting suspended from Twitter" joke. Lot of NBA talk right now.
   110. stanmvp48 Posted: March 22, 2013 at 12:23 PM (#4394285)
As I recall, they were, at first, only called if there was no other time out. Now they have them even if the coach has just called a full timeout. Now if they miss the 8 minute media time out for example; they will have two in a row after the four minute point.

I don't know if this is significant but the Denver University announcer, who normally announces "media time out"; instead announced "Time out on the court" at the NIT game. Also no beer at the NIT game.
   111. SoSH U at work Posted: March 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM (#4394292)
As I recall, they were, at first, only called if there was no other time out. Now they have them even if the coach has just called a full timeout. Now if they miss the 8 minute media time out for exa
mple; they will have two in a row after the four minute point.


That is true. Announcers would often talk about coaches trying to save their TOs if the TV TIMEOUT was coming (though I suppose that incentive is still there, though I can't recall it coming up recently).
   112. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM (#4394297)
let's go wisconsin

try to not stink
   113. stanmvp48 Posted: March 22, 2013 at 01:06 PM (#4394332)
3/16 from the field at this moment.
   114. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 22, 2013 at 01:09 PM (#4394336)
I saw the first several minutes of the Duke-Albany game while having lunch. The 6th grade team I coached this winter averaged about 25 points a game and I'm pretty sure we shot better than Albany does.
   115. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 01:25 PM (#4394348)
for those who don't follow wisconsin when sam dekker plays well wisky's chances of winning rise considerably. being young he is very up and down in his play. but when 'up' the team benefits greatly.
   116. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 01:33 PM (#4394357)
so experts, is Henderson just off or is it wisky defense or some combination?

trying to gauge if the player is set to 'go off' in the second half
   117. hokieneer Posted: March 22, 2013 at 01:41 PM (#4394367)
so experts, is Henderson just off or is it wisky defense or some combination?


I just turned the stream on, so no personal opinion yet, but Wisky has one of the better defenses in the country (according to kenpom), and Henderson takes a large volume of bad shots. Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see him struggle against the Badgers.
   118. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 01:49 PM (#4394376)
the eapn guy, jay bilas, is pretty insistent that wi fouls in lieu of defense

badgers have played this way for a long time and rarely rack up a lot of fouls in a game so i don't know what to think

also do not recall an opposing player or coach accuse badgers of playing dirty or cheating
   119. just plain joe Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:11 PM (#4394397)
also do not recall an opposing player or coach accuse badgers of playing dirty or cheating


I don't watch basketball on TV as much as before but I can't imagine Wisconsin being more physical than the rest of the Big 10. You drive the lane or post up in the Big 10 at your own peril; it has pretty much been this way for as long as I can remember (50+ years). I'm sure that the way Wisconsin plays could annoy and frustrate their opponents but I don't recall anyone saying that they played dirty.
   120. Dolf Lucky Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:13 PM (#4394400)
Harvey,

As a long-time Buckeye fan, my take on Wiscy is this:

Extremely physical, but disciplined. They don't allow easy baskets and they fight for every rebound, even after the ball has been secured. I think the games look more chippy than a typical b-ball game because of the length and tenacity of a typical badger lineup.

That said, I also think that the physical play tends to create an illusory effect, since legitimate contact in the lane (i.e., a foul) will go uncalled because it fits with the ongoing flow (or lack thereof) of the game.

I don't get too upset at this since Wisconsin is far from the only team that plays this way in the Big Ten, and absolutely not the worst offender (Sparty).
   121. cmd600 Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:20 PM (#4394406)
badgers have played this way for a long time and rarely rack up a lot of fouls in a game so i don't know what to think

also do not recall an opposing player or coach accuse badgers of playing dirty or cheating


We've been over this before, and I'm going to remain adamant that these are not evidence that Wisconsin doesn't get away with a lot of little things.

One, coaches don't complain about fouls unless its something egregious. And that Wisconsin doesn't get a lot of calls against them has a lot to do with college refs missing a lot of handchecking (this applies to just about every team, not just Wisconsin) and letting the game get physical. My complaint is more that I want the refs to properly enforce the rules, and that Wisconsin is so painful to watch, and not that Wisconsin are dirty cheaters - they just use the enforcement of the rulebook the the best of their abilities.
   122. Kurt Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:21 PM (#4394409)
Now there's something you don't see every day - a shot clock violation by a team losing by 11 with 2:00 to go.

SHOOT THE ####### BALL.
   123. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:23 PM (#4394413)
game getting away from wisconsin

rats
   124. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:28 PM (#4394416)
why wisky keeps heaving 3 pointers baffles me
   125. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:34 PM (#4394425)
no fun when the team cannot hit a shot
   126. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:37 PM (#4394428)
have 2 point shots been banned?

why does WI keep cranking 3 point shots?
   127. STEAGLES is all out of bubblegum Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:38 PM (#4394431)
I just turned the stream on, so no personal opinion yet, but Wisky has one of the better defenses in the country (according to kenpom), and Henderson takes a large volume of bad shots. Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see him struggle against the Badgers.
i don't know if i'm right about this, but i think it goes the other way. if a guy like henderson takes a high-volume of bad shots, the quality of those shots won't change substantially regardless of whether they are being taken against a defense that is below average or well above average.
   128. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:40 PM (#4394435)
this defies explanation

the adamant refusal to shoot anything but 3 point shots

   129. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:43 PM (#4394439)
well, wisconsin earned plenty of national scorn this time

congrats to ole miss
   130. stanmvp48 Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:44 PM (#4394441)
8/29 in 2 point shots by my calculations.
   131. hokieneer Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:53 PM (#4394453)
How is that even possible. wisky doesn't typically shoot a lot of mid-range jumpers.
   132. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:56 PM (#4394457)
hoke

ryan evans and jackson will both take 10-15 foot jumpers and today could not hit one at all. between the two they were 3-16 on 2 pointers

   133. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:57 PM (#4394459)
had a queasy feeling because when Wisconsin has one of its shooting 'spells' it will last a while and when they finished poorly against osu thought there might be some carryover. after the horrible start thought maybe the team had righted itself

nope
   134. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: March 22, 2013 at 03:20 PM (#4394484)
damn now bruce weber cant get his revenge on the big 10
   135. hokieneer Posted: March 22, 2013 at 03:34 PM (#4394496)
I keep waiting for NC st to come all the way back and take the lead, but I don't think that's going to happen.
   136. Mike Emeigh Posted: March 22, 2013 at 03:42 PM (#4394501)
I keep waiting for NC st to come all the way back and take the lead, but I don't think that's going to happen.


Gots to make free throws when you have the chance to score with the clock stopped.

-- MWE
   137. WillYoung Posted: March 22, 2013 at 03:59 PM (#4394513)
Butler and Temple can keep on going and bringing even more money into the A10 coffers.
   138. STEAGLES is all out of bubblegum Posted: March 22, 2013 at 04:21 PM (#4394528)
damn now bruce weber cant get his revenge on the big 10
kstate hasn't beaten anyone this year. they're a paper giant.

I keep waiting for NC st to come all the way back and take the lead, but I don't think that's going to happen.
ncstate is mentally weak. they have a ton of talent, but the sum of their parts is less than the whole.


all 3 big 5 teams got tough draws. temple just beat ncstate, but now they have to get past indiana to play into the next weekend. lasalle had to win a play-in game, so even though they're matched up against 3 beatable teams (boise state, kstate and ole miss), they have to beat all 3 in 5 days to get to the next weekend. and villanova gets to play unc and kansas.

since none of the philly teams were supposed to be good in the first place, it's all gravy anyway, but this feels like it's setting up for a punt cunch considering how well the teams have looked through the first 2.5 games.
   139. WillYoung Posted: March 22, 2013 at 04:24 PM (#4394531)
ncstate is mentally weak. they have a ton of talent, but the sum of their parts is less than the whole.


That's what happens with Bobby Lutz involved.
   140. SoSH U at work Posted: March 22, 2013 at 04:35 PM (#4394537)
kstate hasn't beaten anyone this year.


The Florida win was a nice one, even if it was in Manhattan.


all 3 big 5 teams got tough draws. temple just beat ncstate, but now they have to get past indiana to play into the next weekend.


Nine and 13 seeds typically have tough draws, though the inclusion of the bonus game does complicate things.
   141. smileyy Posted: March 22, 2013 at 04:51 PM (#4394551)
The idea that the refs shouldn't "be deciding the games" at the end of a contest is ludicrous. If you ignore obvious fouls, you're pretty much deciding the game.


Maybe college basketball refs should be forced to take freshman philosophy courses.
   142. smileyy Posted: March 22, 2013 at 04:53 PM (#4394554)
They are even called in DII games, two mandatory media breaks per half. I imagine 85%+ of DII games have 0 media members present.


But 15% do, and I don't think its fair for teams to play under different sets of rules in different games.
   143. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 22, 2013 at 04:57 PM (#4394560)
The Florida win was a nice one, even if it was in Manhattan.


Kansas City.

One of the amusing (maybe) aspects of Florida's season is how often they've given a team their only good win.
   144. SoSH U at work Posted: March 22, 2013 at 05:00 PM (#4394563)
Kansas City.


A little better then.
   145. STEAGLES is all out of bubblegum Posted: March 22, 2013 at 06:07 PM (#4394605)
since none of the philly teams were supposed to be good in the first place, it's all gravy anyway, but this feels like it's setting up for a punt cunch considering how well the teams have looked through the first 2.5 games.
yeah, almost immediately after i posted that kstate scored 7 points to open the 2nd half and basically dominated the entirety of it. la salle somehow pulled out the win despite only making 3 FGs in the 2nd half.

for anyone who didn't see it, it was amazing. kstate was essentially playing a home game, so the crowd was through the roof as they made their run. la salle kept calling timeouts, but they couldn't take the crowd out of the game and kstate just kept piling on.

la salle's coach is the weakest in the big 5 and i think he made a few tactical errors. there's only so much you can do when the momentum was going against you as strongly as it was, but the big error in my mind was that he never went to a zone. la salle was playing 5 guards throughout the half and they kept on switching everything and between the mismatches and confusion that creates it meant that the 1 big man who was on the floor was essentially unguardable when he rolled to the hoop. in addition, i think the zone would have slowed the game down at a time when it was getting out of hand.

also, i think they needed to make better use of their fouls when they had a one and one. that big man that they couldn't stop also is a <40% FT shooter, so you'd have killed two birds with one stone if you just sent him to the line a few times.

and lastly, with as aggressive as kstate was playing defense, it looked like the backdoor was open constantly, so if they could have stolen a few points that way, they might have ended kstate's comeback before it really got going.


but really, knowing that la salle won, that 2nd half was great.


also, the A-10 is 6-0 going into the 2nd round this weekend. too bad the conference is blowing up after the season.
   146. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 07:22 PM (#4394631)
I just came here to make that point about the A-10. It was a legitimately excellent basketball conference this year.

So much for Gonzaga being challenged by the defenses of Pitt and Wisconsin, huh?

Der K, I got the reference.
   147. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 22, 2013 at 07:47 PM (#4394642)
Northwestern State is a fun team. They basically use line changes: five players sub in at a time. They basically have 10 or 11 guys who play 20 minutes a game.
   148. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 07:59 PM (#4394646)
I can't believe Northwestern State is from Louisiana. That just doesn't seem right.
   149. Jay Z Posted: March 22, 2013 at 08:03 PM (#4394647)
have 2 point shots been banned?

why does WI keep cranking 3 point shots?


They were intimidated by the Ole Miss big guy. Wasn't expecting that, but Ole Miss was winning the inside battle long before they won the game.
   150. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 08:21 PM (#4394650)
Northwestern State is crazy fun to watch.
   151. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 22, 2013 at 08:21 PM (#4394651)
Northwestern State is crazy fun to watch.


Some shockingly nifty passing from their big men.
   152. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 22, 2013 at 08:35 PM (#4394656)
CBS is (understandably) trying to pump up the drama in UF-Northwestern State, and NWS is playing well, but it doesn't really feel like this game is truly in doubt yet. Northwestern hasn't led yet, haven't been within one possession for most of the first half and UF doesn't seem like it's about to collapse in the face of NWS' pace.
   153. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 22, 2013 at 08:36 PM (#4394657)
In the realm of realistic upsets, however, how 'bout your Florida Gulf Coast Eagles? Up 15 on Georgetown with less than 10 minutes to go in the game.
   154. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 08:39 PM (#4394658)
yeah, Georgetown is in do or die position now, down 14 with 8 left.
   155. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 08:49 PM (#4394660)
Btw, anyone with Google Chrome can watch any of the games on NCAA.com even without a cable subscription by using Incognito mode.
   156. WillYoung Posted: March 22, 2013 at 08:49 PM (#4394661)
Referees are suddenly getting Georgetown back in the game.
   157. Howie Menckel Posted: March 22, 2013 at 08:52 PM (#4394662)
1st time a 3, 4, and 5 seed in the same region all lost in the first round.....

   158. WillYoung Posted: March 22, 2013 at 09:12 PM (#4394670)
#### the Catholic 7! Long live the A10!
   159. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 09:22 PM (#4394678)
1st time a 3, 4, and 5 seed in the same region all lost in the first round


My West section is awash in red.
   160. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 22, 2013 at 09:22 PM (#4394680)
Billy Donovan's dad sounds exactly like Jim Calhoun.
   161. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: March 22, 2013 at 09:24 PM (#4394681)
Well, there goes my bracket
   162. JJ1986 Posted: March 22, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4394682)
The 'Nova point guard really likes jacking the ball up from 3.
   163. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:07 PM (#4394700)
and another program with more NCAA tournament wins than Nebraska and Northwestern.
   164. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:10 PM (#4394704)
and another program with more NCAA tournament wins than Nebraska and Northwestern.


Give them a few years and they'll probably have a better football program too.
   165. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:01 PM (#4394745)
This Minnesota/UCLA game is ####### brutal. Minnesota is 8/19... which is still vastly better than UCLA's 4/19.
   166. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:13 PM (#4394751)
well I'm ######, had georgetown winning it all
   167. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:20 PM (#4394754)
UCLA is 27% from the floor at halftime. Shabazz Muhammad was so much better as a 19 year old.
   168. smileyy Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:32 PM (#4394766)
I don't know why I take such pleasure in UCLA's struggles. I liked that Kevin Love team. Everything else? Not so much.
   169. smileyy Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:35 PM (#4394770)
The Big East isn't exactly burnishing its reputation so far.
   170. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:42 PM (#4394780)
UW Hockey today was 25.7% on SOG, men's hoops 25.4%.
   171. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 23, 2013 at 12:04 AM (#4394798)
The Big East isn't exactly burnishing its reputation so far.


The new Big East should ask for a discount on the name.
   172. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: March 23, 2013 at 12:06 AM (#4394799)
Butler and Creighton carried their weight. Of course BU gets Marquette on Sat.
   173. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: March 23, 2013 at 12:12 AM (#4394807)
I am really hoping western kentucky can pull this off
   174. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: March 23, 2013 at 12:16 AM (#4394811)
Minny hasn't won a tournament game that they can claim since '94.
   175. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 23, 2013 at 12:18 AM (#4394812)
Eh, I never pay that much attention to NCAA sanctions. I grew up in Massachusetts during the Camby years.
   176. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: March 23, 2013 at 12:21 AM (#4394813)
me neither. Minnesota's win would be its first in the dance since '97. Not much better.

still more than Nebraska and Northwestern all-time...
   177. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 23, 2013 at 12:25 AM (#4394815)
Yeah, I've been vexed by the Gophers the the last few years as an alum. Losing Mbakwe halfway through the season last year really sucked.
   178. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: March 23, 2013 at 12:29 AM (#4394816)
10 second run off should be an option on this fouling gig, particularly back court fouls. Imposing a penalty on back court fouling would really help the constant folding which taints these games.
   179. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 23, 2013 at 12:42 AM (#4394819)
Woo Gophers! They looked excellent for the latter 3/4ths of that game. If they can put together a whole game like that, they might even get past Florida.
   180. Rafael Bellylard: A failure of the waist. Posted: March 23, 2013 at 10:57 AM (#4394924)
The good news: I had Oregon, Cal, LaSalle, Ole Miss and Minnesota advancing to the next round.
The bad news: I had Georgetown in the finals.
   181. madvillain Posted: March 23, 2013 at 02:09 PM (#4394982)
Well that washes the taste of those last couple poor months for UM out of the the mouth. First team in the Sweet 16...feels good man.
   182. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: March 23, 2013 at 06:24 PM (#4395063)
BIG flexing their muscles. Mich and MSU the first 2 into the sweet 16, both with very convincing wins.
   183. Publius Publicola Posted: March 23, 2013 at 06:38 PM (#4395072)
Damn, is Colorado St. is a well-coached team and yet Louisville is still kicking their butts.
   184. madvillain Posted: March 23, 2013 at 07:40 PM (#4395094)
BIG flexing their muscles. Mich and MSU the first 2 into the sweet 16, both with very convincing wins.


Dominating performance from both but Memphis is just...ugh. B1G could conveivably get 5 teams into the sweet 16. Illinois has no shot but Minny is about as high variance as you get. They play like they did early in B1G play and the other night, they might have something. Florida is a paper tiger imo, largely untested and perhaps not ready for the level of interior length and athleticism Minny has.

Of course, Minny could easily #### the bed and lose by 20. That's what they do.
   185. smileyy Posted: March 23, 2013 at 07:58 PM (#4395099)
Memphis kind of has their plan, don't they? Play no one, post a gaudy record, and rely on the shine on their vacated Final Four to make people think they're still relevant and a team to be reckoned with.
   186. Delorians Posted: March 23, 2013 at 08:02 PM (#4395100)
Wow, all three finals today 20+ point margins. And the two games in progress both getting out of hand. We need a good game in the worst way.
   187. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: March 23, 2013 at 08:21 PM (#4395103)
PAC-12's acquitted itself pretty well, except for ####### UCLA. At least Colorado put up a fight. Even with my alum glasses on, I can't see Cal beating Syracuse.
   188. smileyy Posted: March 23, 2013 at 08:31 PM (#4395108)
I wonder if Jamie Dixon went to Pitt and said "Hey, I hear the UCLA job might be opening up..." and got himself a 10 year extension.
   189. smileyy Posted: March 23, 2013 at 08:32 PM (#4395109)
Shabazz Muhammad to the youth of America: "Don't get older; it hurts your draft stock and the maturity doesn't help you win tournament games."
   190. yo la tengo Posted: March 23, 2013 at 08:50 PM (#4395117)
madvillain
I get your point about UF - with the SEC so down this year there were not many opportunities to impress. But if the Gators play defense like they did yesterday and if any one of their outside threats heats up I don't see the Gophers having any chance. Billy is a better coach than Tubby, Patric Young can hold his own down low, and I don't see Minny having enough speed to cover the Gator guards
   191. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: March 23, 2013 at 09:21 PM (#4395125)
Oregon "upsets" St Louis (Oregon being seeded poorly diminishes the level of the upset a bit, I think).

Gonzaga looks terrible again.
   192. smileyy Posted: March 23, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4395128)
Was Oregon really poorly seeded? KenPom puts them 39th in the country, Sagarin at 38, 42 or 42, depending on method. So maybe a 10 or 11 seed instead of a 12, but I'm not seeing the seeding being quite so bad. They were the 64th "luckiest" team according to KenPom, so maybe they have a systematic advantage that their peripherals miss?
   193. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: March 23, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4395129)
After around 15 minutes of play, Gonzaga has more turnovers (8) than baskets (5).
   194. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: March 23, 2013 at 09:35 PM (#4395133)
Oregon looks bad mainly because of their slump after their PG (Artis) got injured.

The realist/cynic in me doesn't see Cal pulling off the upset but I hope they do. It'd be awesome to see them in person in the Sweet Sixteen.
   195. smileyy Posted: March 23, 2013 at 09:42 PM (#4395137)
[194] Thanks -- didn't know that about Oregon. My PAC-10 knowledge is limited to UCLA and USC schadenfreude, and occasionally checking in on Arizona because of Miller and Lyons.
   196. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: March 23, 2013 at 09:43 PM (#4395139)
Meanwhile, reports have Ben Howland out at UCLA.
   197. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: March 23, 2013 at 09:50 PM (#4395142)
lots of circus shots between BU/MU.
   198. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: March 23, 2013 at 10:25 PM (#4395146)
Wow, what a choking dog shot.
   199. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: March 23, 2013 at 10:30 PM (#4395148)
finally some entertaining hoops.
   200. Der-K: Hipster doofus Posted: March 23, 2013 at 10:30 PM (#4395149)
198: The last one or the air ball before it?
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