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LeBron James is the originator of the essay; Lee Jenkins made it readable; the thoughts presented therein are LeBron's, not Jenkins'. "By LeBron James, as told to Lee Jenkins" seems like exactly the right way to represent it, and if there are Unwritten Rules that forbid it, then perhaps it's the rules that are the problem, not that specific practice.
I believe your objection is that Jenkins should not have written this for LeBron without interviewing every source he could find in an effort to produce a balanced story; do I understand you correctly? Please correct me if I don't.
There always has been a conflict of interest. Any writer with the least bit of self-awareness recognizes that offending the wrong people can destroy his access, which endangers his career.
That doesn't even get to the fact that this was clearly labeled as a first person (read: subjective and biased) account. Articulating LeBron's world view is the whole damn point of the article/essay/letter. Believe it or not, readers want that first person account, and a good writer can aid with that expression. Most readers are adult enough to understand the need for a bull #### filter with this kind of document (well, maybe not the people that are still kvetching about Dan Gilbert's letter).
Also, Ariza to HOU $32M/4 yr (slightly frontloaded), and Pau to CHI (source: Pau Gasol's twitter).
I don't know if he did; but he shouldn't.
"I believe your objection is that Jenkins should not have written this for LeBron without interviewing every source he could find in an effort to produce a balanced story; do I understand you correctly? Please correct me if I don't."
no, the objection is to the "for LeBron" part. Let LeBron hire a famous novelist if he wants someone to dress up his words; he can afford it. Or just run what LeBron feeds you.
"Howie: I apologize if this seems crass, but I don't think the distinction you're enforcing matters to anyone but capital-J Journalists who take themselves too seriously."
We have agreed that the distinction doesn't matter to people outside the business. But it matters to those inside.
"There always has been a conflict of interest. Any writer with the least bit of self-awareness recognizes that offending the wrong people can destroy his access, which endangers his career."
One of the hoariest, tiredest cliches on BBTF. Try reading Frank Isola's (yes, friend of mine) Twitter feed re the Knicks, who he has covered for almost 20 years for the Daily News. He sets the franchise higher-ups on fire on an almost daily basis, and his career has become so endangered as a result that he's doing a lot of national TV these days. He got more (only) access to Carmelo this week than anyone, because a player can recognize who's got stones and who doesn't. People respect stones. And when the Knicks try to freeze him out, he makes them look like the fools that they are. Look at how many scoops Woj (ditto) gets, and notice how many stories he writes that subjects wince at. Too bad. Is it true? That's what matters in the end. Woj has stones, too.
Look, this ain't tiddlywinks. If someone can't succeed in this job unless they kiss people's asses, they suck at their job and should try another field.
Man, if so, really seems like Morey has outsmarted himself this year. He's lost Asik, Lin and Parsons and in return he's gained .... Trevor Ariza?!?!
It still doesn't make it a very good offseason for Houston, I agree.
Perhaps, but I still don't see it as a valid criticism as you have presented it here. You haven't made a good case, and I think the reason for that is that you are not seeing that your sacksy buddy Isola and Jenkins have different kinds of jobs. Jenkins' role at SI is to write features on the NBA, not bust the balls of Knicks' management on Twitter and get the intertubes and TV outlets fired up. I had never heard of Isola until yesterday, but working for a local daily and doing what Jenkins does are different skillsets.
People complaining about Gilbert not getting a fair shake are like all the guys here who complain about PC rhetoric cramping their style. Gilbert went out of his way to do something really pointless and stupid, and he did it in a very public way. Considering that he is a well-known superrich guy who self-presents as being a statesman, etc. it was especially weak.
James' coming back doesn't erase it.
wait, apples and oranges.
the "stones" comment was about this notion that writers of any sort have to serve lord and master sources, which is silly. it's complicated sometimes, but most occupations are.
Jenkins' job is to write features, yes. the inside baseball question has been what his job was in this case. it's just a bit curious in the industry. I have repeatedly accepted the fact that "nobody cares" outside an insular world. but that's true of a lot of BBTF threads, isn't it? also, Isola is on ESPN all the time as well, TV and Radio (don't feel bad, I never listen to or watch their crap anymore, either!). and Lee is more the "niche" guy - 34K followers vs 78K for Isola on Twitter, for instance, just as a reference to awareness of sports fanatics and not speaking to quality per se.
Gotta agree. James apparently is a ####### cottage -- well, more like a mansion, I guess -- industry all by himself. Why doesn't his payroll include someone who can craft his apparently not-so-golden prose into something publishable as the equivalent of an actual op-ed?
Sort of like "Ball Four, by Jim Bouton, as told to Leonard Schecter". Virtually no athlete on Earth could ever write an essay as good as what LeBron did yesterday without some sort of editorial assistance. That's not a knock on the athletes; that's just reality.
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Gilbert went out of his way to do something really pointless and stupid, and he did it in a very public way.
As did LeBron in his original "Decision". They've both grown up since then, for the good of both themselves and the NBA as a whole.
First of all, you're talking about a 25 year old professional athlete and a 52 year old man. I should ####### hope that at 48, when Dan Gilbert wrote that comic-sans masterpiece, he was "grown up."
Second of all, there's zero sign that Gilbert has "grown up." LeBron forgave him. That doesn't mean he grew up. Here's Gilbert from February of THIS YEAR:
That sound like someone who grew up? Maybe he "grew up" when he realized that it would be worth nearly a billion dollars to him to apologize to LeBron. Maybe he "grew up" when he finished stamping his feat and insisting on an ultra hard-line CBA that screwed the players.
It is indeed. And journalists wouldn't, AFAIK, kick at all if Jenkins had written an "as told to" book with James. It's different, though, when the venue is a magazine or newspaper (unless, of course, what's being presented is an excerpt from such a book) or their website. Maybe it shouldn't be, as has been suggested in this thread, but nevertheless it is.
I dunno. I haven't given it nearly as much thought as Howie, but maybe part of the problem here is that we're talking Sports Illustrated here, which certainly isn't perfect but does have a rather solid reputation. If something like this had appeared on ESPN's website or in their mag, I suppose it'd be just another case of lightweight entertainment guys being lightweight entertainment guys.
Sure. But Gilbert is uh, a lot older than James is, so I think he should have been "grown up" back in 2010. You overreacted to the Heat/James thing,comparing it to steroid use, because you saw it as big guys (NBA stars, Miami, Riley) giving the finger to the little guy (Cleveland fans) and you backed Gilbert as being the guy sticking up for that group. But you had it wrong. In his NBA life, Gilbert is a meddlesome jackass owner who has done a very crappy job with his team, a hardcore laborhawk, and a small-market whiner. When he was under pressure back in 2010, he acted like a complete clown, and he was 48 years old then. He doesn't get a pass.
I have my own biases about Gilbert because of his role in the Paul Veto, and Gilbert has done a lot for Detroit, which is more important than the NBA. Gilbert and James should have some positive impact on that part of the country, off the floor, and that is a good thing.
But that is all a different thing than Gilbert's performance/behavior as the Cavs' owner. And in that area, he has mostly been an ass and a failure, saved only by luck.
Thanks for the input from pros in the field.
As indicated on the previous page, I'd put a lot more stock in Howie's thoughts than I would mine, though again in this case they coincide. I guess it's like any business (as I think has been alluded to) -- principles & standards taken for granted might seem baffling to other people, & possibly for good reason.
I'm sort of reminded of a mystery I read just last month. It was rocking along nicely until we reached the one-third point, at which point over the course of 10 pages:
(1) a small-city newspaperman who's a target in a murder plot is allowed to keep covering the story about said plot & all related developments; he's the managing editor of a 5-reporter staff, so obviously someone else could've stepped in.
(2) said character, after an attempt on his life, files his story on that incident straight to the newspaper's website for public consumption without anyone else looking at the copy -- not the publisher, not a lawyer, not nobody.
(3) said character, we learn, has long had a paid informant in police headquarters.
A later plot twist mitigates some of the above nonsense a tad ... but only just.
Jesus. The writer in question apparently has written well over a dozen mysteries (this is the first time I've read him), but apparently his impressions of journalism are taken from very bad TV programs or movies.
Since no one who read the manuscript (assuming anyone did; publishing houses do still seem to employ people who call themselves "editors," though sometimes I wonder ...) seems to have had any problems with any of this, maybe I'm overreacting, though. I hope not.
enjoying the discussion, robinred, as I do the zillion others here about other fields....
On the plus side, Otto Porter hasn't *proven* that he *can't* play.
Edit: whoops, missed 403-406. Carry on.
I can't wait until Dwight starts pouting and demands another trade.
Ariza has always been a favorite of mine, but I probably would not want him on a four-year deal for his age 29-32 seasons.
this below is definitely part of the equation. ESPN compromises itself constantly, and obviously. Jenkins is to Stephen A as Picasso is to .... well, you get the picture:
"maybe part of the problem here is that we're talking Sports Illustrated here, which certainly isn't perfect but does have a rather solid reputation. If something like this had appeared on ESPN's website or in their mag, I suppose it'd be just another case of lightweight entertainment guys being lightweight entertainment guys."
It's great for next year... Ariza is a helluva sixth man. But long-term, I think they're locking themselves into a team that won't win the championship. On the other hand, it's tough to tell them to let Parsons go when we have no particular reason to think that a third superstar is ever walking through that door! I don't envy Morey.
I get the impression Lance Stephenson was a couple million dollars more expensive than Rockets capology would allow, which is a shame, because I would have loved to see that. It might sound crazy, because you've got two gunners in Stephenson and Harden. But I think both of those guys are much better (and more willing) playmakers than people think. And it addresses the problem mentioned in #427 of what happens when Harden's out. Also, I think the team can kind of use a yapping guy with an attitude, as indeed Beverley was often given credit for bringing.
So it looks like Brooklyn is losing the game of small forward musical chairs. Reports are that they might just pull back and try to get back under the luxury tax repeater penalty line. It's hilarious that the Yankees -- coming off a 17-year-long dynasty, and having nearly relegated the city's other team into oblivion -- ultimately thought they couldn't afford to have a "bridge year" for that purpose, but the Nets might do it.
Anthony Morrow to OKC for $10M/3 yr, great deal for them.
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Ariza the last year has benefited to an extreme amount from having John Wall. 95% of his 3p attempts are assisted and 40% of them are from the corner. Only 21% of Parsons' 3p attempts were from the corner last year.
i (obviously) think a huge part of houston's problems stem from mchale as head coach.
the other problem - now - is that before the offseason began, morey said something about they were going to get a big star, or something like that. they're obviously not getting that 3rd star. so if you bring parsons back, you have:
ariza - asik - lin - (whoever else they have to clear out - d'mo? t. jones?).
and that looks disappointing compared to what he stated they were going to do.
Thanks for the input from pros in the field.
My sentiments as well, even if they (you) haven't convinced me yet.
I think one thing might be that you hold SI in higher esteem than I do. They just don't seem that different from ESPN, though all I know is their websites. Haven't read either magazine in years.
The other is I don't see where it would be okay if James wanted to hire Jenkins to write an "as told to" book and then SI could run excerpts. That seems to be a weird work around. I'd think the line either is: it's okay for our employees to do something like this or it isn't.
I wouldn't say "no one cares" (even if I may have written that). I do care about good journalism and integrity and think journalists do a very important job. I just don't see how this transgresses, as it spells out plainly what the piece is and who wrote it. To me, it seems like full disclosure covers a lot of what otherwise would be sins.
Bad offseason for the Rockets.
Bulls potentially have a great frontcourt. The backcourt* leaves a bit to be desired, even if Rose is himself again (not likely). Bulls really need Snell to take a huge step forward and Butler to rebound otherwise their guard/wing play will be their downfall.
I think the Bulls did some interesting things, and if creative offensively, they could be better than awful on that side of the ball.
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I really don't like what Houston has done. But then, IMO they were a contender last year. I see where they're coming from with each individual move, but I can't imagine Howard or Harden are happy that they seem to be punting this season a little bit. They'll still be good, but they've gotten worse.
I might be off base here, but... I would be inclined to trade Wiggins for Love, but I wouldn't be inclined to add anything of value to the offer beyond that. Wiggins may not be a franchise guy, but he has the potential to be a very good player.
I have to laugh at some of the online Cavs fans (yeah, I know the really annoying ones are the bandwagon jumpers who don't give a crap unless Lebron is there)...they talk about how their roster is full of trade piece nuggets that anyone should kiss their feet to take -- the same crappy roster that couldn't make the playoffs in the east. I don't dislike the Cavs, I live in Ohio, so I sort of follow them casually, but that kind of entitled fan is just so annoying.
If I know Love will sign a contract there, I'd probably deal Wiggins for him if I were the Cavs. But hey, according to Cavs fans, they don't have to -- they have 'all the leverage', and Minny should be happy to take whatever roster flotsam they shovel down their throat. Bleh.
I really don't see much competition for Cleveland in the east at all. What's the second best team? Pacers? Raptors? Wizards?
Seems like the Cavs need some shooters. Maybe they should go after Jimmer or something.
This is basically where I am.
I think this is crazy. Rookie coach (whatever you may think of Blatt's potential -- I really like the move myself -- learning curve is a thing), Irving is, uh, not a great defender, Wiggins is a young rookie, Varejao is always injured. This is a team that went 33-49 last year (in the East!) and they're losing a half season of Deng and some other useful pieces (half-season of Hawes, Jack).
I'm not going to be surprised if they come out of the East, but right now I think it's pretty wide open including some combination of Miami, Chicago, Cleveland, and Indiana, and I like Washington as a dark horse who could gel, Atlanta is getting Horford back (is he expected to be at 100% to start the season?), Toronto could easily build on last season with a young team and Lowry returning.
On the flip side, I think Brooklyn might lose 50 games.
It's a team that's a hell of a lot better than the crap Lebron dragged to the championship his first go-round in Cleveland, and Lebron is a better player now than he was then. The competition in the East is no better now than it was then, and possibly worse.
I don't know that I agree with either half of that statement.
While I agree that Parsons is way overpriced at 16* per, Ariza has (IMO) as likely a chance to be replacement level as he does to be above average, maybe less. In the last four years, he has one year (the most recent) where he was above average. Personally, I'd rather have the cap room.
Still, I think everyone can agree that this was a brutal, brutal offseason for Morey. He gave up Lin, Asik and Parsons and received ... Trevor Ariza in return. Not even Trevor Ariza + salary cap space, just Trevor Ariza.
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Cleveland has to trade for Love, don't they? I think that Minnesota has more leverage. If they'll take Wiggins and not much else (Tristan Thompson?), then I make that deal all day long if I'm Cleveland. Wiggins doesn't have an NBA 3p shot (edit:) yet and plays the same position as LeBron.
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Puff pieces. Gilbert fits the description of a snake oil salesman to a T. I'm more familiar with the "development" he's brought to Cleveland than Detroit, but its a bunch of BS that simply reorganizes the money from the pockets of other businesses to his. It's a lot like when teams claim stadiums will bring business downtown.
Of all the reasons Ive had to find more enjoyable things to do over the winter than root for the Cavs, he's number one with a bullet. He didnt deserve Lebron coming back.
They didn't completely convince me, either, but I think BTF should have more focus on knowledge base and less on "look how awesome my argumentation and snarking skills are" on a lot of topics, so their input was welcome, as was cmd600's on Gilbert.
I'm not convinced; doesn't mean I'm right. I'm just trying to see how it is they see it the way they do. It may well be that that isn't something that can just be simply communicated in a message board.
I'm okay with the Jenkins working with LBJ piece (which I thought was good) - bunyon sums my position up well with "To me, it seems like full disclosure covers a lot of what otherwise would be sins," but I do see Howie's point.
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Mirotic terms were pretty reasonable, I thought.
When robinred goes to burn down Dan Gilbert's house, I'll bring the kindling - he's one of my least favorite NBA owners.
Not keen on some of these Detroit moves (like getting Caron Butler) - this might be why you don't have dual coach/GMs very often.
To know exactly where the Pacers fit, we need to see where Lance ends up. There don't seem to be many great landing spots for him (Charlotte? Houston on a discount?), so he might end up back in Indy by default. I haven't seen any Hibbert rumors yet, so they might be rolling back virtually the same team. They'll be great defensively, so-so offensively and really hoping George takes another step/becomes more consistent. They'll be in the mix for the top seed and will be a tough playoff opponent.
Toronto should be at least as good as last year. They can get some more development from Jonas/DeRozan. I see no reason for Lowry to regress, so how much you like them depends on how much you like most of the other, now more expensive, role players.
Wizards have a high ceiling, if Beal and Wall keep improving. Pierce is an interesting fit, and a lot depends on how much he has left, but their offense is going to look different with him (hopefully he doesn't slow them down too much). Nene and Gortat, when healthy, are quite the front court, but there isn't a lot of depth. I still question Wittman as a coach, so the Wizards might have quite a range between best and worst case scenarios.
Charlotte can be a dark horse, especially if they go after Lance (I have no idea if they've been linked to him, but they have that unused Hayward money laying around). I think Miami is rebounding nicely, but they haven't really "fixed" last year's holes, not to mention that one major downgrade. They could still be a really good defensive team, but they're going to struggle offensively especially when Wade's out/off. I don't know exactly, but they've used most of their cap room so there isn't a lot more they can add at this point. Brooklyn is fascinating, but could be decent if Lopez/Williams are healthy (or like AS said, they could lose 50 - ok, maybe not that much in this conference).
Homer alert and all, but the biggest wildcard, by far, is the Bulls. If (huge, huge, huge if) Rose is Rose, the Bulls can win the regular season by 10+ games. The Bulls can potentially go 10 deep, they might have the best frontcourt in the league, and they have a plethora of shooters. The buzzword around here is that the Bulls lack "shot creators" but they do have a bunch of above average passers and if they get creative enough offensively (quite frankly, that my biggest question about Thibs this season) they could have an above average offensive to go with their great defense. Whether that's good enough to win 3 playoff series is TBD. Thibs should really be studying the Spurs offense (actually, everyone should; and Thibs should also take a page from Pop's PT handbook), cause while the personnel is not the same or equivalent the Bulls could make a decent pass at trying to duplicate some of the Spurs' principles. All of this hinges on 2 very fragile and apparently moody knees, so even at my most optimistic I'm not counting on or expecting this.
The Cavs, while good, don't look quite great to me yet. They should be good offensively, though like others have pointed out, they could use some more shooting (and more willing passing). But I think they're really going to struggle defensively, regardless of whether or not they have Love. They don't seem to project as a good rebounding team, but they are super athletic so they can be a deadly transition team. They have a bigger room for error, what with the greatest player in the world and all, but it might be a transition year or two until they turn into world beaters (and by that time, hopefully LeBron isn't starting to wear down).
I still think LeBron by himself makes his team the best in the East. If they add Love it makes it no contest. They're not good enough to stand much chance against the Western champion, though.
I'm waiting to see exactly how it breaks down, but signing Mirotic/Gasol with the cap space created by amnestying Boozer is a big upgrade and pretty good use of that money. I'm not super happy with Hinrich getting the room exception, as any other adds (a 3rd PG - Sessions? or another athlete wing or another C) would have to be minimums. At least the Bulls are safely under the tax, so there's no excuse for not fielding a full roster this year.
Plan, hope, pray, doesn't matter the word. He's taking up a third of their cap. If he's there, they're great. If he's not, they're not. Not much else they can about it.
This is why picking Bennett over Noel really hurts them. Noel is going to get pushed around A LOT, but he is a legit shot blocker--arguably better than Davis. A team with LeBron and Love and Irving could afford a weak offensive center who ran around and blocked shots. I don't know what Bennett gives them though maybe he'll be traded anyway.
Great point. Noel on that team would be scary and address a lot of my concerns.
That's pretty much my POV too. Last time LeBron was trying to drag the Cavs to a title by himself, there were at least two other legit contenders in the East to give him fits (Boston and Orlando), even if the overall quality of the conference was still pretty weak. There isn't anyone else in the East now as good as those two were with prime Howard and the KG/Pierce/Allen trio.*
* Unless everything breaks right for the Bulls, but as others have noted above, the chances of that happening are iffy.
Not sure how the Rockets have anywhere enough assets to get Love. No idea what the C's would want for Rondo.
wiz: i think they're gonna have some defensive problems on the perimeter. beal and wall are both great athletes, but they're kind of undersized, and 2014 pierce is just about the least athletic wing in the NBA. they're gonna have to go through (or at least against) guys like lebron and george and melo and if that's their lineup, they're gonna get eaten alive. i do think beal and wall make them a really tough matchup for any team that lacks size or athleticism at guard. those guys are jets.
horcats: i don't see it. i think losing mcboberts will hurt them, and while they have a lot of interesting young players, that franchise has also shown a complete inability to develop interesting young players. if they can fix that, they could be really good, but i'll have to see it before i'll believe it.
bulls: i love what they've done. i don't think gasol is a great fit, but adding gasol, mirotic and mcbuckets is a pretty damn good offseason, imo. noah/gibson/gasol/mirotic up front, butler/dunleavy/mcbuckets/snell on the wing, and rose at PG is a really good looking roster. hinrich is awful, but in the last few years chicago has gotten great guard play out of cj watson, john lucas, nate robinson and dj augustin, so even if rose isn't rose, i think they could find someone at some point who can make things work.
heat: i like what they've done. i think granger is toast, but mcboberts, deng and napier are solid additions. add birdman and chalmers coming back, plus ennis maybe being decent, and that's not a terrible roster.
hawks: i've never liked their roster. i still don't.
bucks: knight/antentokounmpo/parker/henson/sanders should be a great starting lineup. but it won't be. at least not this year.
Houston- As mentioned, things have not broken their way so far. They have historically been willing to take big swings and misses, but it is more notable now that they are 2/3 of the way to a championship-caliber roster rather than just accumulating assets. I think a few people mentioned that not matching on Parsons is a way to maintain some flexibility for other moves. I see it as a short-term step back with the long-term focus still on gaining a third star (which they apparently think Parsons is not). Maybe that means they get back in the Love sweepstakes, maybe it places them in line for a run at Rondo. I suspect their offseason is not yet finished.
Detroit- The stereotypical knock on having a coach make personnel decisions is that he will try to win immediately and not take the immediate pain that comes with building slowly. Signing DJ Augustin, Caron Butler, and Aaron Gray are exactly the types of moves that fit into that category. None of them has any upside at this point. I imagine SVG is still shopping Smith around the league, but what is the best case scenario for the team he has in place now or could reasonable get by the start of next season? What is the point of these short-term moves?
Chicago- Now they have Noah, Gasol, Mirotic, Gibson, and Boozer under contract up front. It seems like that probably takes them out of the running for Love, but Gasol is a solid consolation prize for a team that seems very conservative with its roster building. Still not sure how those PF minutes shake out. Seems like there should be another move to follow.
Sacramento- No idea why they let Thomas walk. None. Maybe they still have eyes for Rondo but it's hard to see how they are going to get him.
Lakers- I see no world in which that Jordan Hill contract is a good idea. Four years for Swaggy P also seems way too long. I thought they brought guys in last year simply because they would take short deals that would keep the cap clear. Why sign them long now?
Phoenix- McDonough said something about running PNRs on both sides of the floor. They now have four guys who are functional PGs- two right handed and two left handed. It makes me wonder if that is an intentional plan. It's certainly not something I have seen teams intentionally do when building a roster before- unless that is why Zeke got Z-Bo and Curry to man the opposite blocks.
Also important to note is that if--God forbid--LeBron gets hurt, the East becomes a free-for-all and almost everyone is a contender. A contender for the honor of getting annihilated in the Finals, but still.
I agree, and would add not sure those "fans" are in for a long rebuild. The pick is top 10 protected though, and some protection next year but totally unprotected in 2 years.
Chicago- Now they have Noah, Gasol, Mirotic, Gibson, and Boozer under contract up front. It seems like that probably takes them out of the running for Love, but Gasol is a solid consolation prize for a team that seems very conservative with its roster building. Still not sure how those PF minutes shake out. Seems like there should be another move to follow.
Boozer is going to be amnestied (they don't have cap room to sign Gasol/Mirotic otherwise). I imagine something like Noah 32/Gasol 28/Gibson 28/ Mirotic 12 - maybe some uber-big lineups with Gibson/Mirotic seeing some time at the 3. There'll also be injuries to Noah/Gasol, so that will be fluid. The Bulls have told Mirotic he's not getting moved as a condition of signing him (and he can't be traded for X number of days after signing). I'm positive they're out of the Love market.
i don't think gasol is a great fit
I love the fit. Gasol and Noah rotating between high and low post. PnR's with both. Gasol will post up more than Boozer (he pretty much never posted up the last 2 years). Him and Noah whipping passes around. I'm looking forward to them together.
I think if Rose miraculously returns from the dead they are as good as any team in the West but I wouldn't be surprised if they were already the best team in the East.
If Rajon Rondo gets traded to Houston I give it about a 25% chance that he'll punch James Harden in the face at some point.
I expect those "fans" are already gone and ain't coming back regardless.
It's hard to gauge how much Boston wants to hold onto Rondo, though. He has one year left on his contract for 13m, after which he has stated that he wants to get paid. Even if Boston thinks he's the bee's knees, given where they are as a team it makes sense to see what assets you could get for flipping him now unless you think he's definitely well worth 20m per year. Add to that the fact that Danny Ainge would at least listen to offers on his own mother to see if trading her was worth it to him, and Boston is going to be shopping Rondo right now, even if they're pretty sure they want to keep him, just in case some team decides to bowl them over to get him.
I assume Pierce is a bridge until Porter develops. Is that realistic? Porter did not do much last year, but perhaps they think he is not far off?
John Wall is a 6'4" PG with a 6'9.25" wingspan. Beal has a 6'8" wingspan. I don't think Beal is undersized, and if he is, it isn't by much and I'm certain that Wall is one of the biggest PGs in the game.
Not all FOs are cagey and smart like Minnesota's is. But seriously, Hill is not as good as some Lakers fans think he is, but he is better than some people on the outside think he is as well. That said, the plus to it is that there is a team option after one year, but you can argue that they would have been better off trying something like Ed Davis and Epke Udoh instead.
As to Nick Young, one word that is coming up in the Lakers blogosphere is "watchable." Young is treated as a joke by the kinds of guys who post on this thread and their numerous counterparts around the net, and as I said last year, I get that. But he played well by his own standards and there are people in the fanbase who like his local ties, his enthusiasm, and his scoring. But most people on the blogs are down on the deal, due to its length. Personally, I would not have brought Young back at all, but Jim Buss and I have different basketball worldviews.
The Lakers are in pretty much the worst spot of any org in the game, having lost out on Paul, Howard, and Nash; having gotten zip for Pau, Blake and Kaman and being bereft of picks. Like any other org in the tank, they got there through a combination of bad luck and bad management, so what they are trying to do is stay competitive, put a product out that that is watchable and entertaining, and hope for a score in FA. Lin, Nash, and Hill will/can come off the books after this year, and then Kobe comes off next year. The odds are against anything big and positive happening for a long time, though.
It's depressing when the best thing to look forward to on your team is the day they don't have to pay their players anymore. I'm not high on Randle, but I hope he can surprise me.
I am actually looking forward to rooting for Lin; I like him. But yes, the situation is grim overall.
Angels are good, though.
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more, it didn't really work out Tyler, but Jennings made some good money doing it. Draft slotting makes it risky though, harder to ruin your draft stock if you stay in the NCAA I think. I still think the NBA might do well to subsidize the D-League though to keep these guys in the country.
That team would score like crazy, but might do well with a little more defense. Davis should be a very good international player, skilled, mobile bigs have usually done really well for the USA. Griffin I think would also be a very good international, even more so if they can get away with using him at center against certain matchups. Durant did well as more of a PF last time with USA, with Igoudala as SF, George and Durant would probably be similarly effective together. Love's speed and defense are lacking I think, when more well rounded players are available.
The player pool lacks backcourt defense.
From ESPN's writeup:
Gosh, I hate the NCAA. I also wish this was more of an option for guys.
If you prefer more traditional metrics, in 20 mpg, he scores 9 and boards 7.5.
If Trevor Ariza is worth 8 and Gordon Hayward is worth 12, seems like an easy decision.
I don't see Coach K going all offense like that, though it's a nice option for him. In general, the roster is very, very strong offensively and has some whole defensively (not just the backcourt). For that reason, I see someone like George starting. Too bad Leonard is sitting out, though I understand why.
And, sort of implying what I think about him as a player, would anyone put Boogie Cousins on this team?
My starting five would be Paul, Durant, Lebron, Carmelo, Davis, with Curry as 6th man.
Why isn't it? Some agent could make a ton of money developing these opportunities.
Usually the non-Olympic teams are stocked more with youngsters for mileage reasons. Lebron just played another 95+ game season and Paul doesn't need any more extra miles either.
Rose has "vowed" to make the team and according to McBuckets Rose looks 100% in practice. I dunno anymore, he looked like the same old Rose athletically (with rust albeit) before he tore his Patella last season, so who knows. Somehow I think he's going to continue to play how he plays and let the chips fall where they may. I really think he's going to blow his knee out again, I just hope Chicago can get a few years of contention in before it happens.
This team they have right now looks pretty damn good IMO. Pau and Noah and Gibson is a helluva big man rotation and if Rose comes back at 90% of his previous level, you've got a 55+ win team.
No, they've all chosen not to play. They were all invited and turned it down.
two lineups l'd like to see:
curry/thompson/durant/faried/davis
lillard/irving/george/love/drummond
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I think these metrics make him look better than he is, for a couple of reasons:
1. He has short arms and doesn't help you that much with rim protection or Team D.
2. He doesn't have great shooting range, which is a big deal in today's game.
But he is a pretty decent player.
That means it ends up that the Bulls gave up 2 first round picks and 3 second round picks to move up 5 spots in the draft to get McBuckets. Terrible value, and hopefully he's good cause that's a ton to give up.
Bulls have to fill out the roster with 3 minimum guys now, and from the little I've seen of Baristow in the summer league (Bulls 2nd round pick), he doesn't look at all like an NBA roster player.
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