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and just to have a little poke, since it was a point of contention this summer: while evan turner is yet to be ranked, gordan heyward is not -- he came in at 123. so, in the words of shaq, "how's my ass taste, jazzfans*?"
*note: i fully understand that evan turner could be out of the top 300 by the end of next season if he shits the bed again, but for now, #### it, we goin' sizzler.
he's undecided as to who will start at the 4. could be hawes, could be young, could be allen. personally, i'm kind of rooting for allen to get the nod, since i think he's the best of the 3 on defense, and because his offensive game is better suited to play alongside jrue, ET, and bynum -- which basically means that he doesn't need the ball in his hands, he doesn't want the ball in his hands, and when the ball does get in his hands, it's either passed or shot in 2 heartbeats.
in addition, collins hinted at thaddeus young getting minutes at the 3. i'm not sure how well that'll work, since he's almost exclusively played the 4 in the NBA over the last 5 years, and he's really worked hard to grow his game to excel there. his quickness gives him a gimmick in the post at both ends of the floor, and while he's not a very good rebounder, he does have other advantages.
also, collins talked about potentially using a 1-in, 4-out lineup with bynum or hawes at center, and dorell wright at PF, jason richardson and nick young on the wings, and jrue holiday at the point. basically that lineup would give the sixers 4 shooters on the floor, spaced around a big man, in sets that i assume would be designed to look something like orlando's during their championship run in 2009.
Heh. When did Shaq say that? Lol
I'd still take Hayward over Turner 8 days of the week. It's cool though - Jazz fans tried to convince themselves that DWill was as good as Paul for years, so I understand the need for fans to justify their teams draft picks over better players they should have taken instead. :-)
SB Nation is saying that ESPN is going to give Bill Simmons and SVG the halftime show for their tv coverage. Gotta say, that's pretty intriguing.
The NCAA has said there's no rules violations at UNC. Which is unreal.
Weird. If true, I hope they add at least one good, experienced broadcaster. I'm generally a Simmons apologist, but he is not equipped to talk for minutes on end without a lot of stammering. I thought the halftime show last year was a bit stilted, too, with Wilbon and Jon Barry, and Wilbon is about 10 times the talker that Simmons is.
there's a quota. every year, one school must get ass-hammered, but never more than one, and never less than one.
Noodles and Co, OTOH, meet you in 5, JaVale!
Pfft, you only say that because you have Cafe Rio around. You bastard.
Hayward's underrated because he looks like he's 11.
so, we can now quantify the difference between evan turner and gordon heyward:
heyward is the 123rd best player in the NBA
and now, evan turner can be called the 119th best player in the NBA.
where gordon heyward is a 5.09 (whatever the #### that means), evan turner is an almost exponentially better 5.15.
the difference between the two is just, such a vast chasm, that, to compare them against one another seems like an effort in comparing an elephant against, well, maybe just a slightly smaller elephant.
hawesome also came off the board, at 118. that gives 3 of the 4 slots between 118 and 121 to the sixers, and that also means that there's only 3 sixers in the top 100: thaddeus young, jrue holiday, and andrew bynum.
and i could be wrong, but i believe nikola pekovic has now surpassed lavoy allen as the highest riser between last year and this.
Meh. I'm a snob when it comes to Mexican food. Cafe Rio is better than Chipotle for sure, but I'm not a huge fan of theirs either for the same reason; when you've grown up eating at authentic Mexican restaurants for years, these new Americanized semi-fast food imitations just don't cut it (Costa Vida is another I'd put in this group).
You want real Mexican food in the Salt Lake area, try the La Frontera/La Puente/La Fuente franchise. Simply divine.
I'm in Tucson now so we have awesome Mexican food, but no good quick burrito places like Cafe Rio. It may be fast food but there's no other food I'd rather get that is that cheap. I'm sure I'll be coming up for Christmas so I'll have to go to one of those and I'm sure I'll end up going to Red Iguana as well, which is very good.
I'm excited that I should be able to stay longer this year and it looks like there will be a couple Jazz games I can go to. I think the last one I was at was in 2007 against the Warriors when Fisher showed up in...OT I believe.
For cheap and fast Mexican, I actually prefer the Beto's/Alberto's type places over the Cafe Rio and Chipotle types. Mainly cuz they don't skimp on the cheese. If my heart doesn't skip a beat a few times when I'm eating it, I'm not interested.
Loved that game. Probably my favorite game I ever attended in person. I always hated Fisher (even when he was with the Jazz), but that 3 he hit was an instant classic in team history.
That might be interesting if they get a host. Neither of those guys is equipped to steer the conversation. I listen to Simmons' podcast when he has a guest I like, and it always meanders excessively, even when he has interesting things to say.
At least you're close to Los Pollos Hermanos.
I have to be drunk to enjoy places like Beto's, and even then I'd only eat there because it's the only place open
IT's got to be up there for me as well. Jordan's GW in game 6 is far more memorable, but I didn't enjoy the outcome nearly as much. I wish I could say I was at the game when Stockton broke the assists record but one of my sisters (who didn't and doesn't really care about basketball) got to go. /still bitter
Plus we're finally getting some good meth.
Knicks in 2013.:
On the other hand, they are also uniquely situated to be overrated by other players. Players probably look at Amare and assume he has something left in the tank because they don't want to consider the possibility that players can be physically spent at age 28. He is a unique case, though, and I would be surprised if he ever truly recovered from his lingering back/knee problems to become anything more than an above-average player. Carmelo also has cache beyond his true value, possibly because he runs with the Lebron/CP3/Wade group and carries himself like a star. If Melo really was a top 10 guy and Amare still was an All-Star, then gunning for the top of the East would be very realistic. They're not, so it's not.
Definitely a good news/bad news thing, as I will truly miss his breakdowns.
Think I did this before, but: per hoopdata, who led the league in charges last year?
And then this morning:
This was one of my favorite discoveries researching the book.
I remain extremely cautiously optimistic.
Good reports on Ricky! too, who is back in the US.
DeMarcus Cousins 50
Jose Juan Barea 42 (Barea is notorious for this and had a higher chg/min than did Cousins)
Marcin Gortat 38
Ersan Ilyasova, Kyle Lowry 37
Blake Griffin 32
Kemba Walker, Nicolas Batum 31
Brandon Knight, John Wall, Thaddeus Young 30
I would never have guessed him, but it makes some sense in retrospect.
(Glen Davis had 20, if you're wondering.)
Most minutes played without drawing one: Nikola Vucevic, 813. Boozer and Brand drew only one each (a Duke PF thing?) - and stars/superstars Kobe (who famously is disinclined to take them), Durant, Howard, and Bynum had the least among 2000 minute guys, with two a piece.
One more bit of charge business: the following are the only dudes to take as many charges (min 10) as they've garnered steals or blocked shots.
J.J. Barea (42 charges, 21 steals, 0 blocks)
Samaardo Samuels (20 of each)
Brockman (16 charges, 4 steals, 1 block)
Raja Bell (15 charges, 13 steals, 2 blocks)
Ryan Hollins (12 charges, 12 blocks, 4 steals)
Barea and Brockman are the notable entries there, I think.
-Miami has take the court spacing thing to heart. Basically every role player on the team is meant to be a stand-still three point shooter. Chalmers, Allen, Lewis, Miller, Jones, Battier, even Jorts. Cole and Haslem are the exceptions, and even Haslem plays the same game a few feet closer to the hoop.
-It is funny that OKC is employing Thabeet and Jones. I feel like both of those guys are obscenely laconic. I hope they make them carpool and room together so one of them has to take the initiative to open the doors and stuff.
-On the Boston breakdown, I kept waiting to get to the real center. KG plays center for them, but it is more of a modified lineup where they can space teams out with their string bean center. As I make my way through the profiles, I realize that the only true centers are Fab Melo and Jason Collins. They might actually miss the Stiemer.
Team previews come separately next month.
Heh.
I think they look plain and boring. Lukas has it right, they look like a practice uniform, and I can't help but nothing the absence of words and the open space. Kind of like they're saving it for some other logo or words...
I'm a Celtics fan, and I approve it if only to see Simmons' reaction.
KG can practice his fighting now.
now? i'm just kinda giggling, because i assume this is a move that's intended to counter the sixers' addition of andrew bynum.
There's certainly some truth to that, I suspect, but I also think they just really needed another big man. Unless you're irrationally high on Fab Melo's ability to contribute quickly, they only had Chris Wilcox and Jason Collins behind KG. I don't know that you can count on KG being healthy for a full season at this point, and without him they would have been painfully thin.
Really, though, I think the move was made because of the comedy, intentional and otherwise, that seems will result inevitably from putting Darko in that lockerroom and with Tommy Heinsohn announcing him...
Also, the Cs can credibly roll out both tiny lineups, with three guards and Pierce at the 4, and huge ones, with Green and Pierce at the wings and KG and (Wilcox/Darko) up front.
I'm getting really excited for this season. This is by far the deepest roster the Celtics have had in the Garnett era.
I think they are just an alternate jersey. They are pretty ugly.
Also, something about the shade of those new Spurs uniforms just makes them look like sweatpants to me.
Edit: Obviously, I am buying it.
Oh, man, that was one of the most emotionally wrenching documentaries I've ever seen. It should be required viewing for every high school player in America.
BBTF fantasy basketball league. 16 teams max; scoring based on Hollinger's Game Score:League is #17814; PW is albright
Uh...
What's with the Bulls wanting to pick up all the old Jazz castaways?
I think Raja Bell might be available. Have at it, Chicago.
16 Parker
17 Anthony
18 Bosh
19 Nash
20 Aldridge
Minnesota, apparently looking to make their roster as white as the True Hoop writing staff, added Louis Amundson today.
With Kobe, Howard, and Pau still to come, this means the Lakers have 4 of the top 20 players (if you believe these rankings) Of course, since Bynum hasn't been listed yet either, I guess they still would have even if they hadn't gotten Dwight.
I'm a little surprised that DWill is still in the top 15, though I guess none of the guys already listed are clearly better.
LeBron, Wade, Kobe, Howard, P.Gasol, Paul, Rose, Westbrook, Durant, Dirk, DWill, Love, Griffin, Bynum. One more...
(and the above were listed in random order)
Lots of great PG's these days. That's 5 of the top 15 and 7 of the top 20.
The rankings are based on 104 ESPN "experts" opinions.
Yet another independently defensible move. Amundson can be the fifth big behind Love/Williams and Pek/Stiemsma. He can fill in as a spot backup if one of those four gets hurt and suck up minutes in blowouts. He will play hard and defend pretty well and they got him for the minimum. The fact that all of these moves make sense in a vacuum makes the race thing more defensible, but also stranger in a way.
I'm a little surprised that Pau remains ahead of Bosh and Aldridge. I know his numbers take a hit due to usage, but he has also aged and some of the slippage is probably legitimate decline. Hard to pinpoint, I guess.
I don't either!
The fact that all of these moves make sense in a vacuum means we have to be discussing the Wolves.
I was just making a joke. I don't think Kahn is making a conscious effort to get a bunch of white dudes; I think it has just worked out that way, and I think it is sort of funny. No offense intended.
Mostly, I said it because like all good Laker Fanboys, I never pass up an opportunity to tweak True Hoop.
Count the ringzzz!!!!!
I sent you an email from my new account about two weeks ago (WRT politics, not basketball).
Did you get it?
14 Griffin
15 P Gasol
Williams and Rondo should've been ranked already, IMO.
And Dirk may be getting a bit of a career bonus...
EDIT: In a ranking of best players RIGHT NOW, I would take Nash over Parker and Williams without thinking twice.
I agree completely. It's funny to me specifically because it just worked out that way, similar to the way it would be funny if Andris Biedrins somehow made 20 consecutive free throws. The odds are about the same.
Lebron
(gap)
Durant
Chris Paul
Howard
(Gap)
Kobe
Love
Wade
Westbrook
(gap)
Rose
Deron Williams
12 Rondo
Griffin in general seems to low to me. Sure he's got a lot of holes in his game still, but the stuff he does well he does really well.
(gap)
Rose
Crazy /partial fanboy reaction. Unless you mean today, injury and all.
*-Outside vote guys would get ranked in order of (1) appeared on most ballots, then (2) average grade on those ballots. For example, Player A ranked on 2 outside ballots as a 7 would be below Player B ranked on 5 outside ballots with grades of 4 7s and 1 6. Or some other better system.
2. Everyone else.
AMIRITE?!
As opposed to? As sad as it is, I think we have to assume until proven otherwise that given the severity of the injury, Rose will never get back to his previous level until proven otherwise, and might not get close.
I think you mean:
1. Kobe Bryant
1000. Everyone else.
The gap is just that big.
Granting the premise, I think that's a reasonable conclusion, but I'm not sure I do agree that Gasol is a significantly better defender. Bosh has similar strengths and weaknesses- good athlete, good length, pretty quick, works hard, can be pushed around by bigger guys, not an intimidating help defender. What is the reason to think Bosh is significantly worse?
Considering the number of ACL injuries and recoveries (see Peterson, Adrian), I see no reason to assume that at all. Yes, there's a risk, but I don't want to go overboard either.
Also, I'm still touchy on the Westbrook/Rose stuff (talking points that include both context and Rose was better the last 2 years anyway, etc).
Edit: Part of it is that Rose is likely to miss a good chunk of this season. If both guys have 5-8 productive years left, and Rose misses at least half of this season, then he has to be 6-10% better the rest of that time to come out ahead.
It's mostly subjective on my part, Gasol does block more shots, but that isn't enough evidence on it's own (he's also the best rebounder, but that doesn't mean too much either). I might just be overreacting because I think Gasol often doesn't get enough credit for his defense and he's been a key player on a lot of good defense teams, but I might be giving him too much career credit. I may also be underestimating Bosh's and Aldridge's defense; Bosh I think has improved his defense since going to Miami and Aldridge has really good defense +/- numbers the last few years. Overall those guys are all close and I'd easily take all of them over Parker or Williams.
Aldridge seems to be pretty underrated at 20. He seems to be similar to Bosh and Gasol, both of whom I like, but he is a little more versatile on where he can play inside. I'd take him over both. Nevermind the clowns like Anthony and Williams that are ranked above him and many others.
League is #17814; PW is albright
Both ugly as sin itself...
What, you have something against raptor-faced men?
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