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RAPM WS/48 PER WS MP Age Tm Player7.3 0.286 30.3 8.9 1502 28 MIA LeBronJames
6.1 0.305 29.2 10.8 1706 24 OKC KevinDurant
7.8 0.288 26.1 7.8 1306 27 LAC ChrisPaul
2.5 0.194 25.1 5.0 1242 28 NYK CarmeloAnthony
6.4 0.211 24.9 5.6 1269 36 SAS TimDuncan
4.2 0.183 23.4 4.5 1170 31 MIA DwyaneWade
2.6 0.179 23.4 6.1 1634 34 LAL KobeBryant
3.1 0.183 23.0 6.0 1568 24 OKC RussellWestbrook
3.5 0.211 22.9 6.2 1409 30 SAS TonyParker
4.4 0.200 22.5 5.9 1426 23 LAC BlakeGriffin
1.3 0.136 22.2 3.2 1143 20 CLE KyrieIrving
4.5 0.174 22.0 6.0 1659 23 HOU JamesHarden
4.7 0.240 21.0 6.6 1323 30 NYK TysonChandler
1.0 0.183 21.0 4.9 1277 28 MIA ChrisBosh
4.3 0.132 19.8 3.7 1362 27 LAL DwightHoward
3.7 0.127 19.6 4.0 1519 27 POR LaMarcusAldridge
2.4 0.156 19.6 4.9 1505 29 GSW DavidLee
2.3 0.164 19.1 4.7 1370 31 MEM ZachRandolph
0.5 0.083 18.8 2.5 1449 22 PHI JrueHoliday
1.5 0.110 18.5 3.2 1378 26 BOS RajonRondo
5.3 0.121 18.3 3.2 1254 36 BOS KevinGarnett
2.4 0.148 17.4 4.8 1543 22 IND PaulGeorge
4.2 0.139 16.9 4.4 1533 27 CHI JoakimNoah
1.3 0.118 15.2 3.7 1514 27 CHI LuolDeng
Then here are players who didn't make the team that came in top 5 (of those that didn't make the team) in either RAPM, PER, or WS/48 (700+ MP):
RAPM WS/48 PER WS MP Age Tm Player1.2 0.190 25.4 4.1 1028 24 BRK BrookLopez
-1.5 0.177 23.1 3.2 855 26 BRK AndrayBlatche
-0.5 0.212 22.9 3.7 838 19 DET AndreDrummond
2.4 0.179 22.0 3.4 901 30 CLE AndersonVarejao
2.6 0.187 21.5 3.2 830 26 TOR KyleLowry
5.5 0.198 20.9 3.7 896 35 SAS ManuGinobili
2.8 0.234 20.5 5.0 1022 28 SAS TiagoSplitter
5.3 0.167 20.4 4.4 1275 27 UTA PaulMillsap
4.1 0.166 19.8 5.1 1490 24 GSW StephenCurry
4.1 0.199 19.1 5.8 1403 28 MEM MarcGasol
4.1 0.159 18.0 3.6 1074 25 TOR AmirJohnson
4.1 0.063 17.4 1.8 1363 27 ATL JoshSmith
4.4 0.148 16.8 4.2 1373 25 MEM MikeConley
4.7 0.072 14.0 2.3 1526 29 DEN AndreIguodala
edit: Also, New Orleans has a long history of baseball teams named the Pelicans so it's a nice tie in to the city's sports history, too.
To answer a couple questions, Tom Haberstroh and I will continue to split Per Diem with occasional guest appearances from the rest of the Insider stat-minded team.
The future of the book has been discussed to some extent. As was the case when Hollinger stopped writing the Forecast, the same content will go into the player/team previews next fall, but there still might be the opportunity to offer it in some kind of book version, at least to Insiders. Something similar is probably true of the SCHOENE projections. Have to figure out what role, if any, they might play on the fantasy side of things.
I guess I get the defense argument, but if records are an argument I don't see why the Bulls get two all-stars when neither the Nets nor the Hawks have any.
And there's part of me that doesn't like putting generic offensive guys who play good perimeter D in the All-Star game. On the one hand, the All-Star team shouldn't only be based on offense, and it's good to recognize guys for more than that. But, aesthetically, the last thing I want from my All-Star game viewing is a guy like Deng who is fine on offense and does nothing special, but can play good D on the wing. What fun is that? Give me Josh Smith throwing down alley-oops and jacking up silly threes or Kyle Lowry zipping up and down the court or whatever instead. Part of me prefers that and letting someone like Deng get recognized through the All-Defenseive team if he's really that good.
I also recognize that there's a bit of a position imbalance - the East is heavy with bigs and point guards, but not as much with wings.
And, Kevin, thanks for the update. Jason Kidd is still not an All-Star, though. :-)
I cancelled my BaskPro subscription (the articles are good, but I don't follow college ball enough to make it worth it for me personally) so now I will have to consider the Pelton/Abbott calculus in terms of re-activating Insider (yes, I know that Abbott is not behind the paywall).
Josh Smith just isn't going to make an All-Star team. Last year was the year. I think the coaches have him labelled as a problem, and nothing is going to change that.
Course, him getting suspended for actions in practice pretty much ended his All-Star chances this season.
You asked who I would leave off the all-star team for Gasol on the last page. First, if there is only going to be one Grizzly, it should be Gasol and not Randolph, so I would be fine making that trade. Randolph is important and is having a fine season, but the Grizzlies win because they are either the best or second-best defense in the NBA. The reason that is true is because of Gasol.
Secondly, if I was picking the teams, I would have no problem leaving Dwight off instead of Gasol. I think it's an open question on which one of them is more valuable on offense, and I am nearly positive that on defense it's Gasol by a fair margin. Of course it's fan voting, so that was never going to happen, but if we're talking what should happen the abstract, that's what I think.
Finally, I also think Gasol is better/more valuable than Aldridge or Lee, so if I have to pick him over one of those two, I would. I agree with you that Lee is more deserving than Aldridge, so I wouldn't drop him if I didn't have to.
No argument on Duncan or Griffin.
Anyway, it's just the all-star game, so who cares, but if I was picking the Western team those are my thoughts.
and then there was this:
29-10 Celtics after 1.
48-21 Celtics midway through 2nd.
Since: 38-11, Hawks. 59-59, midway through the 3rd.
*I really don't want to see Rip play at all - he's pretty much on the Bogans plan of starting the halfs and not coming back in or playing more than 20mins. I think the Bulls would get by just fine mixing Butler, Bellinelli and Robinson/Hinrich at the 2 (and the first 2 backing up Deng at the 3 or sliding Deng to minutes at the 4 and Hinrich and Robinson splitting time at the 1 - they've starting to play minutes together now in preparation for when they're the backup backcourt).
10 games over .500 without rose who would have thought that?
I did predict them as the 2 seed on this thread, so I'll take credit for that. And to answer one of Matt's questions from the last page, I'll repost this tweet that about sums it up:
I said it before, but all the talk about the players the Bulls lost this offseason slightly overrated their impacts**. As we talked about on this thread several years ago when Brewer/Korver/Bogans/Watson were signed, they weren't exactly celebrated or praised as brilliant acquisitions at the time, but the roles worked and the team was greater than the sum of the parts. It's happening again with this group - Butler, Bellinelli, and Robinson*** have all fit it nicely after some initial struggles. Thibs is just a great f'in coach; now we need to see him work his magic in a playoff series against a better/favored team.
**Asik is a different story. He's a legit talent they lost, and it's a damn shame Jerry's cheapness won out. The minutes the Bulls got from him the last couple of years were really a luxury, but he could have been a difference maker in the playoffs this year and in the future.
***Watson would have been just fine and would likely be outperforming Hinrich. That wasn't a cheap move for the Bulls, and at best they're breaking even.
JR is cheap but how good are the guys he has put in charge? Asik, Butler, Mirotic, Gibson, Nate Rob, etc have all been to borrow a phrase from Lloyd Carr: tremendous acquisitions. Also, they didn't overthink the Rose verse Beasley thing which many a dumber franchise might have.
Then they took a chance on Thibs and it worked.
It's a bit sickening to realize how good they could be with deep pockets though, or at least how much easier they'd make it on GarPax and Thibs.
Deng getting injured has been perhaps the biggest "blessing in disguise" development of this season. Now Deng doesn't have to play 40+ anymore. Thibs has zero excuse not to up Butler to 20 so minutes a game, 15 at SF and 5 at sg or so.
I'm with Moses, just bench Hamilton until like game 3 of the playoffs. Then he'll be awesome.
I don't know about that. Remember the rumors that Pat Riley wasn't even going to take Beasley second, because he didn't like his attitude (he was going to take Mayor instead, supposedly, as I recall)? In hindsight, it seems like the red flags with Beasley were plenty bright.
Splitter is first in career WS/48 of all players drafted in 2007. You know, the year Oden (3rd in WS/48) was drafted ahead of some Seattle draftee who is 2nd in WS/48.
With playing time, Splitter is only 16th in WS, trying to catch Aaron Brooks who has played 4810 more minutes.
Aron Baynes, 00:00 PT; 1 TO.
But, Riley did take him. So I'm not sure that refutes his point.
I liked James' doing the full bearhug celebration with the little tubby guy who made the halfcourt hook for 75K.
Sounds like his brother's typical stat line when Jarron used to start for the Jazz (k, not really).
I always find it amusing whenever players put up numbers that I could duplicate.
Yeah that's too high. I think Randolph now gets a bit more credit than he deserves for the Grizzlies success because a)he's the most well-known of their players, b)he did give them an identity when he first got here, and c)he was such a bad ass when they first popped on the scene in '10 in that series against the Spurs. He's still pretty good and certainly isn't a bad pick for the ASG, but I'd rather lose him than Gasol without a doubt, and honestly he might be less important to them than Conley at this point.
Actually I know I'd rather lose him than Conley because Conley's backup is Jerryd Bayless, whereas they'd just replace Z-Bo with Darrell Arthur and Rudy playing some 4.
If a Grizzly is showing up in a top 20 type list at all, it should be Marc Gasol. Elite defensive centers don't grow on trees, especially ones like Gasol with a wide-range of offensive skills.
I hope Rondo is all right. I don't like the guy, obviously, but everybody loses out when quality players get hurt and miss time.
Edit: Maybe someone with the Heat heard that and passed it along to him? I suppose that's possible.
I hope Rondo is all right. I don't like the guy, obviously, but everybody loses out when quality players get hurt and miss time.
EDIT: Coke.
EDIT: Also Coke.
He got a triple-double, too (his second in a row).
Edit: That said, seems like maybe he somehow tore it today? That's not what people are reporting, but by all accounts he seemed to be moving normally after the Hawks game and was a very late scratch today.
Ty Lawson threw up 23 in a quarter 10 days ago on 8-8 shooting. He had 26 in 25 minutes last night on 11-15 shooting (4-5 from 3). The Nuggets had 23 assists in the 1st half alone.
Kobe did a great job running the offense. He's one of the last players I'd expect to say dominated offensively with only 14 points, but he completely took over and got everyone involved. By the end even I was kind of pulling for him to get the triple double.
On the Jazz side, I'm getting fed up with Corbin not finding any more PT for the young guys. There's a lot of talk about young players having to earn their PT, but Hayward is playing better than ever (last night's turnovers included)and far better than the other wings and is getting less PT, while Favors is still the Jazz best defender and showing more moves on offense and is getting the same PT.
Edit-Maybe not, Ray Ray just hit a huge three on a terrible turnover by Boston, 1 point game.
By the way, this appears to be the play on which Rondo was injured.
Wouldn't be the first time.
not a basketball person by any stretch but paul pierce is a 1000 years old no? why would htat have value to a team already very good?
2:00 Dwyane Wade misses layup
0:00 Dwyane Wade misses 18-foot jumper
2nd Overtime Summary
4:28 Dwyane Wade personal foul (Paul Pierce draws the foul)
3:29 Dwyane Wade offensive Charge (Paul Pierce draws the foul)
2:24 Dwyane Wade misses 5-foot Running Jumper
1:37 Dwyane Wade personal foul (Leandro Barbosa draws the foul)
0:37 Dwyane Wade misses Running Jumper
This actually makes me giggle.
* Only Clippers with higher PERs: Paul, Griffin, and... Bledsoe.
Edit: Harvey, it's the same logic as trading, say, a really good and promising young set-up reliever for a dependable older pitcher who would slot third in your rotation and thus improve your chances of winning the Series this year. A risky move, one that could come back to bite you, but which might also earn you a title.
Not so much glass as it is that his knee is a ticking timebomb.
That last play by MIA was awful.
well, i hate those moves in baseball.
indeed. apparently, movement was not part of its design...
His play against the Heat in the playoffs last May was very impressive. He dominated a couple of those games.
Let me disagree with this a little. They don't really have great jump shooters. Rondo gets Bass all kinds of wide open 15 ft looks and Bass must miss 2/3 of them. Not Rondo's fault. Same with Green. He gets open looks but is inconsistent in making them. Pierce has lost a little on his shot. I don't think he's all that good at it anymore. Terry gets his shots off the dribble in the seams so a guy like Rondo is sort of irrelevant to Terry. Bradley is a pretty good shooter but he's short and has to be wide open to get his shot off. He can't jump shoot off the dribble. That just isn't in his arsenal. Barbosa is Barbosa. He can shoot you out of a game as fast as he can shoot you back into one. And he relies solely on his own dribble to get his shots. He's incapable of working a two man set. The only guy you could say is a good jump shooter is Garnett and Garnett is having a good year shooting the ball, as he always has playing with Rondo.
He also led the league in assists last year and was leading the league this year, too. And I believe he has gotten triple-doubles more regularly than anyone currently playing, including LeBron. For whatever that's worth. (Obviously it's at least a sign of his above-average rebounding ability and propensity for big assist numbers.)
It's a fair question, though. I know some diehard Celtics fans who think he takes almost as much off the table as he puts on it. Will be interesting to see how the Celtics do without him -- though, of course, Ainge may change the team radically in his absence.
Could the Celtics get a better deal from anyone else?
Ainge and McHale: Back in Business ;-
Agreed. I like Foye, but he shouldn't be getting more PT than Hayward. And I've come around on Carroll a little, but it still bugs me whenever he gets more minutes than Favors. Yet I still think my biggest problem with Corbin is that he keeps screwing around with Tinsley and Watson at PG rather than moving Foye over, which would free up the starting SG spot for Hayward.
I talked to my brother about this a few weeks back and we both agreed that the Jazz just need to make a decision as to who they want to keep as their core going forward and stick with those players. I don't know if our future at PG is Mo or Foye or Burks or someone else, but I do know that it's not 34 year old journeymen like Tinsley or Watson.
The current Jazz are a 45ish win team and a first round sacrificial lamb. I don't think management should be content with that. The only way I see them making a leap in the next few years is if some of their youngens develop into better players than they currently are, and they're not going to do that sitting on the bench.
Houston has no draft picks, but the Rockets can offer cap/tax relief. They're about $7M under the cap I believe. They could offer Chandler Parsons, a couple other cheap young players (Terrence Jones, Marcus Morris, Greg Smith, Sports Guy favorite Royce White, etc.), and no significant long-term salary commitments for KG.
That's certainly where the conversation starts. Question is how much of the blame goes to Rondo, how much to other players, how much to "fit," and how much to Doc. Since '08 the Celtics have built their offense largely around two-point jump shots, which is generally a terrible idea. And while they were a top-six offense in '08, they've since hovered between 18th and 27th in the league.
Same is true for three teams with above average defenses - Boston, Minnesota, and ....?
(This one shocked me.)
LOL. I was thinking the exact same thing. Which begs one to ask why he didn't figure this out before. Gasol looked like a completely different player.
*If Bynum returns for Philly and actually makes an impact, that could all change, of course.
They have looked either awesome or terrible with very little in between this year, either way they're still pretty prone to turn overs (Harden especially so, though that's partly because every team double / triple team him pretty much every play. but that also speak of the general lack of a half court plan past "pass it to Harden and all wait for the corner 3" ) and their half court game is range between inconsistent to terrible.
I'm not an expert on this, but shouldn't they try to run more plays off Lin's pick and roll so that teams will ease off Harden? Lin has embodied the Rocket's inconsistency a lot but certainly still showed a few games that he can score a boatload when you play off him as your main go to guy.
I find it strange that the Lakers are better off with Kobe at point guard and Nash at shooting guard, but that's just me.
Royce White seems like he'd be a lot of trouble to get in a regular season trade; you'd basically have to develop a plan to handle his anxiety issues in a matter of days.
EDIT: Josh Smith's 3 wasn't even close. Had to take it, but... eww.
The Wizards are 6th in defense. Their offense was just beyond dreadful for Wall came back. Wall should help them a ton if he can continue to have a very high usage even if his efficiency isn't great, even mediocre efficiency at high volume will help them a lot. Nene's minutes have picked up lately as well, which should also help. They could finish pretty strong, they are 6-3 with Wall playing.
CP3 being out has actually exposed the Clippers defense more than anything else. Before the 4-game skid, they had a DRating of 100.5. During the skid, it was 114.1. Brutal. Apparently, CP3 doesn't just quarterback the offense, he quarterbacks everything.
The deal KG just signed has a no-trade clause. He's talked openly about retiring as a Celtic, and he doesn't seem like the type to not mean that. I suppose he could be talked into some trades, but who knows what. Shopping him seems risky and somewhat likely to blow up.
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“This isn’t necessarily any offense,” Nash said after the Lakers’ 105-96 win over the Oklahoma City Thunder on Sunday. “This is bringing the ball down, calling over a pick and playing the game and because we have good players on the floor, when (Bryant) distributes we can make them pay for leaning too much to Kobe. When they lean too much to us, he makes them pay.”
"I think we played easy," D'Antoni said. "Everybody can contribute and Kobe starts it, just sharing the ball and he hasn't forced a shot."
Even more efficient than the Lakers offense as a whole has been Bryant's individual output. He's 15-for-22 (68.2 percent) in the last two games.
D'Antoni was asked if Bryant can keep this up.
"Oh yeah," D'Antoni said. "This is easier than the other way. This is much easier, I think. This is great. I hope he's having fun, that's the biggest thing and understanding this is the way to go.
If you think of the only other part of the season when the Lakers looked this good, it was their 4-1 record under interim coach Bernie Bickerstaff. The reason they looked so good under “Bernie Ball” was because the veteran coach basically rolled the ball out and told them to trust their instincts. They’re doing that again now even better because that air-it-out meeting in Memphis seems to have built trust in one another to go along with those instincts.
D’Antoni’s been praised by Bryant himself as an “offensive genius,” but he’s had to sacrifice his ego to realize his system wasn’t ideal for this group, just like Bryant’s had to cool down his individual scoring, and Nash has had to deal with not always having the ball in his hands for the first time since Jason Kidd was his teammate, and Howard has had to adjust to less shots, and Pau Gasol has had to accept coming off the bench.
“There is an adjustment but I think the key for us is to not look at the past and how we played in the past individually and say, ‘Hey, I had success doing it this way,’” Nash said.
Just like D’Antoni has had to bend from how he’s coached in the past.
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rockets fans, fans/haters of lin, broadcasters, reporters, nearly everyone agrees if lin has the ball at the top, there need to be more pnr's set.
and yeah, a few reasons why that's a good idea are:
-> lin works much better off pnr.
-> teams can't collapse on harden when 2 guys are working on lin and center.
-> harden can relax for some period of time instead of having such a large number of minutes where he's doing everything,
-> spot up shooters (parsons, douglas, delfino, maybe morris) will get easier looks because their man has to sometimes go down low if lin penetrates / center gets the ball.
-> whoever's guarding lin has to work much harder on defense.
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