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OT: NBA Monthly Thread - April 2014

I estimate only 10-12 Primates care about the NBA, but with our own thread, we won’t detract from what this site is really about, which I forgot.

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   601. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 26, 2014 at 06:03 PM (#4694910)
flip
   602. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: April 26, 2014 at 06:31 PM (#4694927)
Kevin Johnson is married to Michelle Rhee. Ugh.
   603. Spivey Posted: April 26, 2014 at 06:37 PM (#4694930)
This Spurs/Mavs game has been awesome. Glad to see these teams meet up at least once more in the playoffs during the Duncan/Dirk era.
   604. JE (Jason) Posted: April 26, 2014 at 06:49 PM (#4694934)
Prediction: Sterling won't be majority owner of the Clippers a year from now.

Considering Sterling's less than stellar reputation even before today's revelation, I'm impressed he's lasted some 33 years.
   605. Spivey Posted: April 26, 2014 at 06:55 PM (#4694938)
KAWHIBALL
   606. Spivey Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:00 PM (#4694941)
Boris Diaw is awesome. I remember someone posting an article here a few years ago about the absurd calorie binge he had to be on to gain the weight he did. I hope I'm not the only one who remembers that.

But even still, he's a great defender on Dirk. He's a finesse player but is stronger than Dirk. And he's got surprisingly quick feet for a fat man. And he's tall enough to where he can challenge his jump shot. There are few players in the world that aren't in really bad shape vs Dirk on either height, strength, or quickness. And that's key, because Dirk can use any of those at this point in his career.
   607. Spivey Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:15 PM (#4694948)
Wow. #### Vince Carter.
   608. Maxwn Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:15 PM (#4694949)
Vince for the win. Wow.

I guess it'll be reviewed.

Edit: It's good.
   609. Spivey Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:17 PM (#4694950)
This is going to sound like sour grapes, but I ####### hate the ball advancement rule with a timeout. It doesn't even make sense.
   610. King Mekong Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:19 PM (#4694951)
welp, now I'm worried.
   611. Maxwn Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:23 PM (#4694954)
This is going to sound like sour grapes, but I ####### hate the ball advancement rule with a timeout. It doesn't even make sense.

Sure it does. The reason its there is because it keeps close games in doubt down to the wire. That's enough sense for a league putting out what is essentially an entertainment product.

It creates final possessions like that one rather than near-hopeless half-court heaves. Which I think most people find more entertaining. If you don't agree, fair enough, its essentially an aesthetic argument, but that's almost certainly why they do it.
   612. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:30 PM (#4694956)
On near hopeless half-court heaves: I've never understood why teams don't run the Laettner play more often. Sure, you might turn it over, but who cares with 1 second left in a quarter?
   613. Maxwn Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:41 PM (#4694962)
@612: I think at the NBA level that play might almost never work. NBA teams can put a really tall guy guarding the inbounds and limiting visibility and NBA defenders are gonna pick that pass off a lot. And when they don't they will make the shooter move to make the catch and not be in a great position to turn and shoot.

I'm not even really sure that play should have worked at the college level. When I watch the replay of it, it looks like it was defended very stupidly. I feel like a competent defense ought to be able to make a 60-ft pass exceedingly difficult to complete cleanly.
   614. tshipman Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:43 PM (#4694964)
Man, the West is brutal this year. I feel like every single series could go either way.
   615. Publius Publicola Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:45 PM (#4694965)
On near hopeless half-court heaves: I've never understood why teams don't run the Laettner play more often.


It doesn't work well unless you can set it up off a timeout. And that's not necessary in the pros, as you can advance the ball more safely with a TO.
   616. rr Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:52 PM (#4694972)
Andy Roeser, president of the L.A. Clippers, today issued the following statement:
“We have heard the tape on TMZ. We do not know if it is legitimate or it has been altered. We do know that the woman on the tape — who we believe released it to TMZ — is the defendant in a lawsuit brought by the Sterling family alleging that she embezzled more than $1.8 million, who told Mr. Sterling that she would “get even.” Mr. Sterling is emphatic that what is reflected on that recording is not consistent with, nor does it reflect his views, beliefs or feelings. It is the antithesis of who he is, what he believes and how he has lived his life. He feels terrible that such sentiments are being attributed to him and apologizes to anyone who might have been hurt by them. He is also upset and apologizes for sentiments attributed to him about Earvin Johnson. He has long considered Magic a friend and has only the utmost respect and admiration for him–both in terms of who he is and what he has achieved. We are investigating this matter."
   617. Famous Original Joe C Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:54 PM (#4694974)
This is going to sound like sour grapes, but I ####### hate the ball advancement rule with a timeout. It doesn't even make sense.


Sure did.
   618. rr Posted: April 26, 2014 at 07:54 PM (#4694975)
This is nothing new with Sterling, like a few people, including Baron Davis, have said. But social media have changed and so have the Clippers.
   619. Maxwn Posted: April 26, 2014 at 08:06 PM (#4694980)
Silver's giving a presser about the Sterling stuff in Memphis tonight in about half an hour I believe. My guess is they suspend him indefinitely, because it sounds like the Commish has the power to do that pretty much unambiguously, at least if Twitter can be trusted. The ownership stuff itself is probably a hell of a lot more complicated, so I have no idea how that will play out. I suspect they will try to push him to as far a remove as they can pretty quickly though.
   620. Spivey Posted: April 26, 2014 at 08:15 PM (#4694982)
Sure it does. The reason its there is because it keeps close games in doubt down to the wire. That's enough sense for a league putting out what is essentially an entertainment product.


With an argument like that, they may as well have 5 point circles, 10 point circles, and 20 point circles in random areas all over the court so that games are always entertaining and in doubt.
   621. Spivey Posted: April 26, 2014 at 08:16 PM (#4694983)
Sure did.


Yeah, I know. But I'm still right.
   622. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 26, 2014 at 08:16 PM (#4694984)
Kevin Johnson is married to Michelle Rhee. Ugh.
I find her really sexy. I can't explain it.
   623. Maxwn Posted: April 26, 2014 at 08:25 PM (#4694989)
With an argument like that, they may as well have 5 point circles, 10 point circles, and 20 point circles in random areas all over the court so that games are always entertaining and in doubt.

This is stupid. The fact that it might be worth sacrificing a little consistency with the rules the rest of the game to make the game more entertaining does not therefore imply that all such changes might be worth it. Not to mention that the half-court advancement rule does nothing to change the actual ball-in-play rules of the game, whereas everything you mentioned drastically alters all of that.
   624. JuanGone..except1game Posted: April 26, 2014 at 08:41 PM (#4694998)
I find her really sexy. I can't explain it.

This sounds like my Michelle Bachmann attraction. Like a moth to a batshit insane flame with that one.

Mr. Sterling is emphatic that what is reflected on that recording is not consistent with, nor does it reflect his views, beliefs or feelings.

Not exactly a denial by Massa Sterling.
   625. Howling John Shade Posted: April 26, 2014 at 08:43 PM (#4695000)
Man, that's a gutless press release from the Clippers. You can relay all sorts of statements from Sterling and attack his ex-girlfriend, and yet you "do not know if [the tape] is legitimate or has been altered"? So those statements are the antithesis of everything Donald Sterling is, but he can't remember whether he made them or not? #### off.
   626. Scott Lange Posted: April 26, 2014 at 08:46 PM (#4695001)
Nene suspended? No punches, no real force behind the head bob/butt/whatever, and he was ejected and missed the final minutes of one razor thin game already. Seems harsh.

Also, Sterling should've been run out of the league 20 years ago or more. This is just the NBA's karmic punishment for letting him stick around.
   627. Maxwn Posted: April 26, 2014 at 08:57 PM (#4695010)
Ron Tillery just reported on Twitter that Michael Heisley passed away today. I'm sad to hear it. He took a lot of grief during the post-Pau trade years, some of it deserved undoubtedly, but he deserves credit for the team the Grizzlies put together in the aftermath. He said he'd get them back in the playoffs and would pay for it when they did and he followed through on that.
   628. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 26, 2014 at 09:02 PM (#4695012)
Nene suspended? No punches, no real force behind the head bob/butt/whatever, and he was ejected and missed the final minutes of one razor thin game already. Seems harsh
Meanwhile, the guy who actively does more to damage the image of the league more than any single player skates by.
   629. Howling John Shade Posted: April 26, 2014 at 09:28 PM (#4695027)
Video of Silver's press conference for those who missed it.
   630. JuanGone..except1game Posted: April 26, 2014 at 09:30 PM (#4695028)
Also, Sterling should've been run out of the league 20 years ago or more. This is just the NBA's karmic punishment for letting him stick around.

Agreed. You take CP3 away from the Lakers and put him in Sterling's racist grubby hands, and this is what you get!!
   631. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 26, 2014 at 10:08 PM (#4695050)
The NBA and the players are in the same boat. They took, and are taking, Sterling's money. Now they have to eat his ####.
   632. Maxwn Posted: April 26, 2014 at 10:15 PM (#4695057)
So far game 4 is playing at the Grizzlies pace.
   633. Dandy Little Glove Man Posted: April 26, 2014 at 10:19 PM (#4695059)
With an argument like that, they may as well have 5 point circles, 10 point circles, and 20 point circles in random areas all over the court so that games are always entertaining and in doubt.

That's just silly. 5 point circles, 10 point circles? Sure, of course I have no problem with that. But 20 point circles??? Call me old-fashioned, but I believe that a 20 point shot needs to be made on a special hoop suspended 20 feet in the air, directly above the regular hoop, not from some dopey circle.

Nene suspended? No punches, no real force behind the head bob/butt/whatever, and he was ejected and missed the final minutes of one razor thin game already. Seems harsh.

It does seem a little harsh, but not at all unexpected. Each one of his isolated acts probably doesn't result in a suspension on its own, even if Stu Jackson says otherwise. However, the cumulative effect of the grazing pseudo-headbutt, slap, MMA-style hold, and clenched fist with his arm coiled ready to unleash a Kermit Washington punch is a little too threatening and evocative of some bad moments in NBA history for the league to let it go.

Man, the West is brutal this year. I feel like every single series could go either way.

Based on these playoffs, the West and the East look like different leagues. I'm fairly confident that 8 of the 9 best teams playing right now are in the West.

How much does being in the East improve Miami's title odds? At a glance, I'd guess they go from 1/10 (i.e. 1/8 chance to get out of the West, then 80% chance in the Finals) to 1/3 (2/3 chance to get out of the East, then 50% chance in the Finals).

   634. smileyy Posted: April 26, 2014 at 10:24 PM (#4695063)

The NBA and the players are in the same boat. They took, and are taking, Sterling's money. Now they have to eat his ####.


No, they don't. They can get his ass out of the league when it's shown he said that.

You can put a shitty team on the floor year after year. You can be a racist ####### to your employees. But to out and out explicitly tell a protected class of fans that you effectively hate them...that gets your ass out of the league real quick.
   635. smileyy Posted: April 26, 2014 at 10:26 PM (#4695064)
Well, the Pacers can still redeem themselves. I mean, they don't look great, but if they win the series and can compete the rest of the way, a lot will be forgotten.
   636. rr Posted: April 26, 2014 at 11:35 PM (#4695100)
No, they don't. They can get his ass out of the league when it's shown he said that.


Sort of:

Forcibly removing Sterling from the NBA is unlikely to happen. The NBA's constitution, which is confidential, reportedly contains language permitting owners to authorize the league to sell a team without an owner's consent. The language, SI.com is told, only covers very limited circumstances and these circumstances concern team finances -- namely, when an owner can't pay his bills.
There is reportedly no language authorizing the NBA to sell a team because of an owner's hurtful remarks or embarrassing behavior. Even if constitutional language could be construed to authorize a forced sale of the Clippers, NBA owners would likely be reluctant to do so given the precedent it would set.
Removing Sterling from the NBA, however, may not be necessary to effectively remove him from the Clippers. The NBA could suspend Sterling indefinitely and encourage him to sell the team. The Sacramento Kings were sold last year for an amount that equates to $534 million. It stands to reason the Clippers—which Sterling purchased in 1981 for $12.5 million—would be worth well in excess of $700 million.



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   637. rr Posted: April 26, 2014 at 11:40 PM (#4695102)
Basically, Silver can probably handle Sterling like MLB handled Marge Schott back in the day. Given that Sterling is 80, suspending him for a year or two or "indefinitely" when his team is finally good would in some ways be a pretty serious punishment. But while IANAL, I don't see how they can really force him to sell his team as long as he can pay the bills and run it.
   638. Maxwn Posted: April 26, 2014 at 11:46 PM (#4695107)
Beno keeping the Grizz in it.
   639. Maxwn Posted: April 26, 2014 at 11:51 PM (#4695112)
Grizz hanging around. They have played very poorly on offense tonight, but luckily so have Durant and Westbrook, so they are still alive.
   640. smileyy Posted: April 26, 2014 at 11:52 PM (#4695113)
Yeah, I'd imagine Sterling being suspended and/or fined indefinitely until he dies or decides to stop being the ownership face of the team.

I'm amused by the notion of a Sterling suspension resulting in some sort of league conservatorship of the Clippers (I'm sure that wouldn't happen), moreso if it would have happened a few years ago. That would have made the Chris Paul/Lakers/Clippers trade thing even more fun.

Edit: Steinbrenner was suspended for a year or more as well, wasn't he?
   641. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: April 26, 2014 at 11:59 PM (#4695115)
Just...the most amazing first round.
   642. Maxwn Posted: April 26, 2014 at 11:59 PM (#4695116)
These last 4 mins gonna be a dog fight. 74-73 Memphis.
   643. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:01 AM (#4695118)
Tony Allen!
   644. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:03 AM (#4695119)
These scrambles in the last couple minutes have been awesome.
   645. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:06 AM (#4695120)
I love this ####### team so much.
   646. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:10 AM (#4695124)
I don't blame you. If there's one team that deserves the descriptor "Tough as nails," it's this Memphis squad.
   647. tshipman Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:10 AM (#4695125)
Based on these playoffs, the West and the East look like different leagues. I'm fairly confident that 8 of the 9 best teams playing right now are in the West.

How much does being in the East improve Miami's title odds? At a glance, I'd guess they go from 1/10 (i.e. 1/8 chance to get out of the West, then 80% chance in the Finals) to 1/3 (2/3 chance to get out of the East, then 50% chance in the Finals).


Yeah, I would agree on both points. Is any team more than 1/8 to win the West? The favorites going in are down in their series.

***

So far game 4 is playing at the Grizzlies pace.


OKC is having real problems in the half-court. I am really liking these Grizzlies. Gasol is great to watch. Conley is way better than I ever thought he could be. Really rooting for the Grizz here--I just love Memphis as a city, and they had the best arena I visited this year.
   648. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:11 AM (#4695126)
I think I love the Grizzlies.
   649. theboyqueen Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:12 AM (#4695128)
Tony Allen!


I cant remember the last time I had as much fun watching a guy play perimeter defense.
   650. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:13 AM (#4695129)
Reggie Jackson is carrying the thunder right now.
   651. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:13 AM (#4695130)
The Memphis offense with drawing the defense and kicking to Gasol in the middle is awesomely different, but reasonably predictable -- surprised OKC isn't jumping the passing lane to Gasol more.

I cant remember the last time I had as much fun watching a guy play perimeter defense.


I can, it was last night, watching James Harden. It was a ... different kind of fun though.
   652. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:13 AM (#4695131)
Need a bucket right here.
   653. tshipman Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:14 AM (#4695132)
Also, Doris Burke is killing it on the analysis. It's your stereotypical "twice as good for half the recognition" situation.

It's really clear she's just way better prepared than most analysts.
   654. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:15 AM (#4695133)
Jesus Christ, the OT again.
   655. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:15 AM (#4695134)
Yeah, Doris Burke is great.
   656. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:16 AM (#4695135)
ANOTHER overtime game. What a series.
   657. tshipman Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:17 AM (#4695136)
Wow. I know it's the end of a close game, but how do you not call a foul on Westbrook going over the back on Tony Allen on that one?
   658. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:17 AM (#4695137)
With tonight, over a 1/3 of MEM/OKC playoff games have gone to OT. That's absurd.
   659. theboyqueen Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:17 AM (#4695138)
Mark Jones and Doris Burke are just an awesome team, for no obvious reason, which in itself is pretty cool.
   660. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:19 AM (#4695139)
Mike Miller paying off.
   661. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:21 AM (#4695140)
They're killing themselves from the line though.
   662. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:25 AM (#4695142)
This Grizzlies team is tough as hell. I don't know if they'll win this game but you just can't knock them to the deck for long. They always get back up.
   663. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:25 AM (#4695143)
3 timeouts is too many for overtime. 2 would be plenty.
   664. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:25 AM (#4695144)
If you took Mike Conley's shots and arranged them in order of difficulty, I would wager that the ones he's made are all the difficult ones and the missed ones were all gimmes.
   665. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:27 AM (#4695146)
The ####### timeout rule again
   666. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:28 AM (#4695147)
Scott Brooks HAS to be fired.
   667. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:30 AM (#4695148)
Grizz gotta keep executing on offense.
   668. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:30 AM (#4695149)
And again!
   669. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:33 AM (#4695150)
Ugh.
   670. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:36 AM (#4695151)
Ok, Mike Miller one time.
   671. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:40 AM (#4695154)
It'd have been pretty incredible if they won 3 straight OT games. Ah well.
   672. tshipman Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:41 AM (#4695155)
OKC +5 on FTs. Pretty much how Memphis will have lost the game, unfortunately.
   673. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:42 AM (#4695156)
Yep, the FTs killed them.
   674. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:45 AM (#4695158)
Helluva game. I was rooting for the Grizz pretty hard. I have no doubt they'll come back 100% for the next game.
   675. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:49 AM (#4695159)
Yeah, this is the point where a lot of people will probably swing hard the other way and say that the momentum has gone to OKC, but these teams have played like 30 times the last 4 years, I think the Grizz actually have a slight edge overall, but its close either way, with a bunch of OT games. Basically either one of these teams could win any damn game wherever they happen to play. They know each other almost as well as they know themselves. I will not be surprised by any outcome to this series at this point.
   676. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:56 AM (#4695161)
Don't get me wrong, OKC is definitely favored at this point. But Memphis is still in it.
   677. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:57 AM (#4695162)
Have to figure that at some point Scott Brooks will draw up a play. If he starts doing that, OKC should win. Really rooting for MEM though. Tough, tough loss.
   678. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 01:00 AM (#4695164)
Have to figure that at some point Scott Brooks will draw up a play.

Why? I have watched Memphis play OKC for 4 years and he hasn't done it yet. Why would he start now?
   679. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 27, 2014 at 01:02 AM (#4695165)
There's something really sad about sports when a poorly coached team making tons of bad decisions wins out over a smart, well-coached, hard-working team based solely on athleticism (and FT shooting I guess). Really sets a bad example for the kids.
   680. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 01:06 AM (#4695166)
There's something really sad about sports when a poorly coached team making tons of bad decisions wins out over a smart, well-coached, hard-working team based solely on athleticism (and FT shooting I guess).

Let's don't get too carried away. Memphis played pretty poorly for a big chunk of that game including making some really poor choices on offense. They play their asses off most of the time, and I do think they are better coached overall, but they ain't basketball saints out there.
   681. Maxwn Posted: April 27, 2014 at 01:09 AM (#4695167)
but they ain't basketball saints out there.

Except Tony Allen. Tony Allen is the Basketball God of Chaos and Hilarity and Generally Creating a Ruckus.
   682. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 27, 2014 at 04:48 AM (#4695179)
Let's don't get too carried away. Memphis played pretty poorly for a big chunk of that game including making some really poor choices on offense. They play their asses off most of the time, and I do think they are better coached overall, but they ain't basketball saints out there.


Yeah, but it's fun to get carried away!

I don't really have a primary NBA fandom, so mostly I root for some invented notion of justice. There are only a few teams I really don't want to see win a title. OKC is one of them (Perkins, Fisher, Brooks, Westbrook). Indy is another (Lance Stephenson, domestic violence). Houston (Dwight). I'd be (not equally) ok with any of the other 13 teams winning but those three would be sad for me.
   683. Publius Publicola Posted: April 27, 2014 at 07:59 AM (#4695195)
Yeesh, reading the tone of the comments, I assumed Memphis had lost.
   684. smileyy Posted: April 27, 2014 at 09:32 AM (#4695207)
Memphis lost.
   685. kpelton Posted: April 27, 2014 at 11:20 AM (#4695247)
Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

I'm also not cool with talking about the bad decisions of a team featuring Kevin Durant.

   686. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: April 27, 2014 at 11:56 AM (#4695260)
Deadspin has an extended Sterling tape.
   687. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: April 27, 2014 at 12:47 PM (#4695282)
You know things have gotten out of hand when Michael Jordan is willing to take a stand.
   688. puck Posted: April 27, 2014 at 01:09 PM (#4695294)
I didn't know all that stuff about Sterling and the housing lawsuits. Damn, he is an even bigger scumbag than I thought he was all these years.
   689. rr Posted: April 27, 2014 at 01:34 PM (#4695301)
688--

Yeah, all that stuff is common knowledge among SoCal sports fans and hardcore NBA fans, but I think some folks are getting their first whiff of Sterling with this thing, and like I said above, things are different for the Clippers as a franchise and with social media now. Obama is in Malaysia, and he was asked about it during a press conference.
   690. Spivey Posted: April 27, 2014 at 01:37 PM (#4695302)
Apologies for being a bit of a prick yesterday. Dallas did play well enough to win, I still hate the advancement rule. I feel like we've discussed it here and I thought most people disliked it.

The Memphis/OKC series is very interesting. I agree with Maxwn that I don't believe there's any momentum in that series. I think they're basically equally matched and I think it's pretty much a toss up to finish. I guess I'd give the slight advantage to OKC just because of home court.

Big game for Golden State this afternoon. I guess with Sterling-gate I'm back to rooting for the Warriors.
   691. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 27, 2014 at 01:42 PM (#4695304)
[685] I think that is part of what is so frustrating. KD is great and makes good decisions. Yet there are possessions where Westbrook dribbles for 20 seconds and launches a contested 3.. Even if you accept that Tony Allen can play perfect ball denial on Durant there are other plays you could be running here. I'm not sure how to break that stuff down between Westbrook and Brooks (or the fact that Kendrick Perkins' existence means you're often playing 4 on 5 on offense) but I find it very aggravating.

[687] I laughed.

   692. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 27, 2014 at 01:59 PM (#4695310)
687 - my thoughts exactly
   693. rr Posted: April 27, 2014 at 02:16 PM (#4695318)
687-

I hear you, but Kobe Bryant used the Clippers for leverage in 2004 and supposedly almost played for them--and never said a word about Sterling until yesterday, and whatever KB says to the LA media gets huge play. Magic Johnson had never gone off on Sterling until yesterday, to the best of my knowledge. Chris Paul and Doc Rivers both wanted to be Clippers. LeBron James could have refused to allow the Clippers to make their pitch to him back in '10 and called Sterling out then when the whole sports world was hanging on The King's every word.

And beyond all that, AFAIK, even David Stern never commented publicly on anything related to Sterling's racism.

I know it is easy for me to say, from the total anonymity of my laptop, that high-profile guys in power should speak out and up until this little incident, there was not as much of a "smoking gun." But basically, no one said much about Sterling when the discrimination lawsuits came up, when Elgin Baylor talked about it and sued, when the "beautiful black bodies" line hit the media, when Baron Davis talked about it etc.

Also, Jordan is an owner, of course, and his statement was parsed to that effect. So, I wouldn't single out MJ here. The NBA as a whole has looked the other way on Sterling for many years.
   694. JJ1986 Posted: April 27, 2014 at 02:39 PM (#4695334)
Carlos Boozer looks like he has no idea what to do on defense.
   695. theboyqueen Posted: April 27, 2014 at 02:50 PM (#4695340)
Seriously, Sterling's housing discrimination and slumlordism which made him a rich man in the first place are far bigger crimes against humanity than his senile ramblings to a golddigging mistress. The guy should have been removed from society years ago. I remember Bill Simmons writing a whole article about this years ago and yet he also publicizes the fact that he is a Clippers' season ticket holder.
   696. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 27, 2014 at 02:52 PM (#4695341)
rr, I think this (the line) is more about MJ than Sterling. Though I guess racist scumbags gotta buy shoes too...
   697. GordonShumway Posted: April 27, 2014 at 03:02 PM (#4695345)
[687] - awesome.
   698. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: April 27, 2014 at 03:19 PM (#4695352)
?@DanWoikeSports Clippers take off warm-up gear, drop them at mid court t-shirts on backwards. pic.twitter.com/FbdNBzY2Js
   699. puck Posted: April 27, 2014 at 04:05 PM (#4695364)
The LA chapter of the NAACP was about to award Sterling a lifetime achievement award? (And that would have been his 2nd?). That's kind of confusing. Sounds like it was for fundraising stuff.

I feel bad for the Clippers players. This must be a distraction.
   700. TFTIO is familiar with the works of Pablo Neruda Posted: April 27, 2014 at 04:17 PM (#4695369)
I would like very much for the Warriors to murdervate LApartly because of the Sterling thing, but mostly because RUN-TMC was the first real hoops I liked.
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