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Thursday, April 03, 2014

OT: NBA Monthly Thread - April 2014

I estimate only 10-12 Primates care about the NBA, but with our own thread, we won’t detract from what this site is really about, which I forgot.

Have posts been building up inside you?

The District Attorney Posted: April 03, 2014 at 05:26 PM | 2387 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   901. King Mekong Posted: April 30, 2014 at 06:56 PM (#4697881)

Man, if only there was someone in the Warriors org who might be able to help Curry get untracked, perhaps someone who could make some adjustments in their offensive sets to deal with the trap. If only.


It's the coach! Or one of the assistants... oh.
   902. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 30, 2014 at 07:19 PM (#4697890)
You mean for the playoffs? Because Bogut is signed for at least a couple more years.
Of course not for the playoffs I mean for next year. GSW + a good center would be a force to reckon with. Without a good center, they can't handle the Clippers. Bogut's really good, but he can't be rusted to make it through a season without breaking down.
   903. theboyqueen Posted: April 30, 2014 at 09:08 PM (#4697940)
This Bogut injury is basically the definition of fluke. I would take him over anything on the open market.

Look, I'm not a Mark Jackson fan but I simply don't agree that there is some magic coaching solution to the Warriors offensive problems. I would like to see a Green, Iguodala, Thompson, Curry, Blake lineup to get as many ballhandlers out there as possible and then let Steph go bananas, but they would get KILLED on the inside. Basically the Warriors only chance to beat the Clippers is to hit as many threes as possible.
   904. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 30, 2014 at 09:18 PM (#4697950)
How is this a fluke injury? Most NBA players jostle a bunch and take shots to the ribs and most of them don't fracture those ribs. Most injury-prone dudes just have weaker bones/muscles/tendons/whatever, I don't think this is a case where he just got randomly hit in the exact wrong place. A fluke injury is a guy getting in a car crash or someone coming down hard on your knee or something like that.

I agree that one of these years Bogut is going to be healthy and I don't think he's a bad gamble to take by any means, but the dude is injury-prone.
   905. sardonic Posted: April 30, 2014 at 09:32 PM (#4697958)
Look, I'm not a Mark Jackson fan but I simply don't agree that there is some magic coaching solution to the Warriors offensive problems. I would like to see a Green, Iguodala, Thompson, Curry, Blake lineup to get as many ballhandlers out there as possible and then let Steph go bananas, but they would get KILLED on the inside. Basically the Warriors only chance to beat the Clippers is to hit as many threes as possible.


I think the solution fewer isos... IIRC according to a Lowe article before the playoffs, the Warriors run iso on 30% of their plays, which is 2x the league average, or roughly 15 extra plays per game where they're probably giving up on average maybe 0.3 points per possession. Obviously it's not quite THAT simple, but I do think that the effect would be material, even an extra two points per game would move them past OKC in point differential. That's without even better offensive scheming. I mean, you don't even have to look at the numbers to see that repeated DLee postups against Deandre Jordan are just not going to work unless Lee gets lucky... we could play a drinking game where we take a shot every time Lee or O'Neal gets blocked at the rim on an iso post up and, well, we probably wouldn't be drunk but why give those plays up?

How is this a fluke injury? Most NBA players jostle a bunch and take shots to the ribs and most of them don't fracture those ribs. Most injury-prone dudes just have weaker bones/muscles/tendons/whatever, I don't think this is a case where he just got randomly hit in the exact wrong place. A fluke injury is a guy getting in a car crash or someone coming down hard on your knee or something like that.


After he was hurt, Bogut did say that he might finally re-evaluate the way he plays, which he described as much more physical than common in terms of taking charges/contact, going up for blocks, etc. I don't have any numbers, but it certainly does feel like he does take charges more often than other big men, and plays a high contact game. So it's possible that he's "injury prone" because he puts himself in harms way more. He certainly seemed to think so.
   906. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: April 30, 2014 at 09:42 PM (#4697962)
Is it a good tradeoff to get Bogut on the court more often but with reduced effectiveness?
   907. sardonic Posted: April 30, 2014 at 09:50 PM (#4697966)
Is it a good tradeoff to get Bogut on the court more often but with reduced effectiveness?


Damned if I know.
   908. tshipman Posted: April 30, 2014 at 09:52 PM (#4697968)
A few random thoughts after watching Spurs/Mavericks:

1. Chris Webber is really good! Don't much care for his PBP man, but C-Webb is insightful, entertaining and fun on the mic as an analyst. I have no idea if he wants to continue, but he would pair excellently with JVG if ESPN wanted to bring back that three man booth.
2. For a veteran team, the Mavericks were turrrrrrrrrrible at defending the high pick and roll. Nowitzki in particular just got caught in the worst positions over and over again. It looked like he wasn't even paying attention.
3. Am I crazy or would MDA be a great fit for the Warriors? If you want to see what Curry can do, pairing him with MDA would be amazing for the league. I'm not a huge D'Antoni fan, but the Warriors would seem like his ideal fit. Of course, I've been wrong about this many times before.
4. I really hate the fat tub of goo that is Boris Diaw. I especially hate that he's had this late career renaissance with SA. Somehow, BR tells me he is only 32. I would have said 39. I cannot believe that I might have to deal with five more years of Boris Diaw.
   909. kpelton Posted: April 30, 2014 at 09:54 PM (#4697969)
IIRC according to a Lowe article before the playoffs, the Warriors run iso on 30% of their plays, which is 2x the league average, or roughly 15 extra plays per game where they're probably giving up on average maybe 0.3 points per possession.

Not sure if Zach has some SportVU stats that deal better with this and can't quickly find the stat, but Synergy tracks 10.7% of their plays ending in isolations. That is high (third in the league), but the Warriors score .842 points per play on those plays, as compared to .951 points per play overall. The difference between the Warriors and the lowest teams in isolations is about 6-7 per game, so we're talking about 0.7 points per game. And that's rather pessimistic because it doesn't include plays that start as isolations but generate more valuable spot-up opportunities.
   910. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: April 30, 2014 at 10:03 PM (#4697973)
Brooklyn's come all the way back to tie it. What a collapse this would be.
   911. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 30, 2014 at 10:10 PM (#4697976)
From Simmons's column on Sterling:
Supposedly there are more than a hundred hours of these tapes. Supposedly Sterling asked his assistant/girlfriend/whatever-the-hell-she-was, V. Stiviano, to start recording his thoughts because the 80-year-old Sterling couldn’t remember things as well anymore. Supposedly this is only getting worse.
   912. sardonic Posted: April 30, 2014 at 10:10 PM (#4697977)
I stand corrected -- I'll have to go back and figure out what exactly I read or at least what I was smoking.
   913. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: April 30, 2014 at 10:14 PM (#4697979)
Apparently the lakers are in search of a new coach now. Per magic johnsons twitter. Hat tip to the lounge
   914. The District Attorney Posted: April 30, 2014 at 10:30 PM (#4697983)
"Happy days are here again!" Johnson tweeted. "Mike D'Antoni resigns as the Lakers coach. I couldn't be happier!"
Stay classy, Magic.

Interesting that D'Antoni, by resigning, of course walks away from $4 million. I think that the organization was showing sufficient faith in him simply by not firing his ass. But I suppose he naturally doesn't view the world that way.

Supposedly this is only getting worse.
Well, the guy's banned for life. It's not going to "get worse" in the sense of a problem that people will be expecting the NBA to do something about. That is already done.

It could "get worse" in the sense of people thinking even worse of Donald Sterling. But, who cares.
   915. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 30, 2014 at 10:45 PM (#4697989)
Well, the guy's banned for life. It's not going to "get worse" in the sense of a problem that people will be expecting the NBA to do something about. That is already done.
I think there's a pretty decent chance that he fights any attempt to make him sell the team. That could drag on for a long time.
   916. The District Attorney Posted: April 30, 2014 at 11:15 PM (#4698006)
I think there's a pretty decent chance that he fights any attempt to make him sell the team. That could drag on for a long time.
Well, yeah, but I don't think further revelations about his scumminess will make that situation any "worse", other than for him.
   917. rr Posted: May 01, 2014 at 12:40 AM (#4698038)
Interesting that D'Antoni, by resigning, of course walks away from $4 million


Unlikely.

But, sources said, when the Lakers said they were unwilling to do that (pick up the option), the team and his representatives began working out a solution that was amenable to everyone. It is believed that D'Antoni did not leave the full $4 million that was guaranteed to him next season on the table.


link
   918. rr Posted: May 01, 2014 at 01:11 AM (#4698043)
Ramona Shelburne ?@ramonashelburne 13m
Lakers agreed to pay DAntoni more than half of the $4 million he was owed for next season, according to a source.
   919. theboyqueen Posted: May 01, 2014 at 01:16 AM (#4698047)
3. Am I crazy or would MDA be a great fit for the Warriors? If you want to see what Curry can do, pairing him with MDA would be amazing for the league. I'm not a huge D'Antoni fan, but the Warriors would seem like his ideal fit. Of course, I've been wrong about this many times before.


I think you are completely wrong about this. The Warriors strength is their team defense; it's probably the reason they are any good at all. Aside from Curry they don't really have super-good offensive players (Lee and Thompson are decent). Everything that's good about them would probably disintegrate if D'Antoni took over. It might be entertaining but I doubt it would lead to wins.
   920. tshipman Posted: May 01, 2014 at 01:59 AM (#4698053)
I think you are completely wrong about this. The Warriors strength is their team defense; it's probably the reason they are any good at all. Aside from Curry they don't really have super-good offensive players (Lee and Thompson are decent). Everything that's good about them would probably disintegrate if D'Antoni took over. It might be entertaining but I doubt it would lead to wins.


D'Antoni has coached good defenses before--he had a good defensive team in New York, and had a couple of decent defenses in Phoenix.

The Dubs were only 14th on defense last year before improving to 4th this year. I mean, admittedly, I have been wrong about D'Antoni at pretty much every point. I thought he was no good when he coached Phoenix, I thought he was great when he left Phoenix, and I thought he was a sneaky hire for the Lakers.

The next time I'm right about MDA will be the first, but I still think he'd be a good fit for the Warriors. They need better scheming and execution on the offensive end more than anything else.
   921. Paul D(uda) Posted: May 01, 2014 at 09:19 AM (#4698110)
The Raptors gave away free "Drake" lint rollers last night.
   922. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: May 01, 2014 at 10:06 AM (#4698131)
Last name Ever, first name Cleanest.
   923. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: May 01, 2014 at 10:50 AM (#4698167)
[922] I laughed.
   924. smileyy Posted: May 01, 2014 at 11:36 AM (#4698205)
Lint rollers would have been even more appropriate for the Heat to give out. They're great for getting cat fur off of stuff.

(Is there something to the Drake/Lint Roller relationship that I'm missing out on, or is it just a bizarre branding opportunity?)
   925. Moses Taylor World Re-Tour 2.0: Warszawa Posted: May 01, 2014 at 11:39 AM (#4698208)
   926. Moses Taylor World Re-Tour 2.0: Warszawa Posted: May 01, 2014 at 04:27 PM (#4698399)
The Los Angeles Lakers plan a drawn-out and exhaustive search for Mike D'Antoni's successor as coach, but sources close to the process insist the team hopes to "make a splash" with its eventual hire.

To that end, sources say, Lakers officials intend to reach out to two of the biggest names in the college game -- UConn's Kevin Ollie and Kentucky's John Calipari -- to at least gauge their interest in the job.

The Lakers also plan to reach out to the Chicago Bulls for permission to interview coach Tom Thibodeau, a source told ESPNLosAngeles.com's Dave McMenamin. The Lakers are closely monitoring the playoffs, believing that several viable candidates could become available should their respective teams be eliminated.


Are the Lakers going to send the Bulls their lottery pick?
   927. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: May 01, 2014 at 04:33 PM (#4698403)
Are the Lakers going to send the Bulls their lottery pick?
Can't. LA already has committed its 2015 first-rounder to the Suns.
   928. rr Posted: May 01, 2014 at 08:24 PM (#4698519)
Can't. LA already has committed its 2015 first-rounder to the Suns.


Not quite. The pick is Top-5 protected, so no, they can't trade it, but they may wind up keeping it.
   929. rr Posted: May 01, 2014 at 08:28 PM (#4698525)
Asking to interview Thibodeau is sort of a due diligence/appease the fan base move. Season ticket renewals are supposedly down; TWC ratings supposedly nosedived, and a lot of fans have brought up TT, since he is perceived by some Lakers fans as an anti-MDA in some ways: a hard-nosed, defense-oriented guy who can help teams grind out Ws. 134-112 losses get old just as fast as 93-81 losses do.

But I will be very surprised if TT is coaching any team other than Chicago in 2015.
   930. Publius Publicola Posted: May 01, 2014 at 08:40 PM (#4698530)
UConn's Kevin Ollie and Kentucky's John Calipari -- to at least gauge their interest in the job.


Validation would be a bad hire. He can't coach. He's all about recruiting his ass off and there's more of an even playing field for talent in the NBA.
   931. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: May 01, 2014 at 09:11 PM (#4698552)
I think that he can coach but should stay in school, where he's way more valuable.

Man, not news, but Westbrook can be electric.
   932. Spivey Posted: May 01, 2014 at 09:23 PM (#4698556)
OKC has been lights out this half. You see a half like that and you almost forget that they have Perkins, Fisher, and Caron Butler playing meaningful minutes.

I still think Memphis is gonna come back. The shooting will regress for both teams.
   933. Spivey Posted: May 01, 2014 at 09:49 PM (#4698567)
So much for Memphis' shooting regressing to the mean.
   934. The District Attorney Posted: May 01, 2014 at 09:56 PM (#4698575)
Posnanski on Greg Oden.

Poz attributes Oden's current bench-nailing to his inability to stop Roy Hibbert. Apparently he just had to wait a couple of months...
   935. A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats Posted: May 01, 2014 at 09:58 PM (#4698576)
That was some terrible last minute basketball from the Atlanta Hawks. Should I have been watching the western conference playoffs this whole time?
   936. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: May 01, 2014 at 11:16 PM (#4698617)
The fact that both Speights and Crawford are already in for the Warriors (and that Jackson apparently thinks Crawford could be the x factor) does not bode well.
   937. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: May 01, 2014 at 11:28 PM (#4698622)
Well, I guess Big Baby is determined to shorten the Warriors' rotation even if Mark Jackson won't.
   938. rr Posted: May 01, 2014 at 11:43 PM (#4698629)
ATL and MEM have done good work in these series...but it is hard beat a team 4 out of 7 when they have serious core talent.
   939. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:13 AM (#4698653)
Last minutes of an elimination game. Up by four. Isolations for Jordan Crawford.

Makes sense.
   940. rr Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:22 AM (#4698658)
That may do it--3 with a foul and Griffin out.
   941. rr Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:22 AM (#4698659)
That may do it--3 with a foul and Griffin out.
   942. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:24 AM (#4698662)
Blake Griffin isn't as good at the shove-the-3-point-shooter-in-hip move as Chris Paul is.
   943. rr Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:25 AM (#4698663)
Nope--back to 2.
   944. rr Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:27 AM (#4698664)
Missing Bogut on those last two Clippers hoops.
   945. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:28 AM (#4698665)
Man, I find Jamal Crawford terrifying...
   946. rr Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:33 AM (#4698667)
I think all 4 WC 1st round series could go 7 now...that may help Miami at Finals time.
   947. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:33 AM (#4698668)
3 Game 7s on Saturday and a very real possibility of 3 more on Sunday. Insanity. 2 weeks into the playoffs and there isn't a single second round matchup set.
   948. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:34 AM (#4698669)
Not a pretty game of basketball.

Draymond Green: 14 pts 14 rbs 5 stls 4 asts 1 blk
   949. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:34 AM (#4698670)
How did everyone feel about the 6th foul on Redick? I thought it could have been a charge on Barnes and it really pissed me off that Reggie Miller, best friend of Mark Jackson, called the replay like there no chance it was a charge.
   950. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:37 AM (#4698672)
Anyone know the record for most 1st round series going the full length?
   951. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:40 AM (#4698673)
949, I thought it was a clear charge. Barnes lowered his shoulder and barreled into Reddick.
   952. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:49 AM (#4698674)
949, I thought it was a clear charge. Barnes lowered his shoulder and barreled into Reddick.

Heh. That's how I actually felt, but since I hate Jackson I tried to act neutral. Then they show the replay and Reggie is just "he moved his feet" as though it doesn't matter that Barnes lowered the shoulder and went directly into Redick's chest.
   953. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:56 AM (#4698676)
Heh. That's how I actually felt, but since I hate Jackson I tried to act neutral. Then they show the replay and Reggie is just "he moved his feet" as though it doesn't matter that Barnes lowered the shoulder and went directly into Redick's chest.
I thought it could have gone either way. But I'm a Warriors fan, so that probably means it was a charge.

I do agree that it's really weird to have Miller commentating.
   954. theboyqueen Posted: May 02, 2014 at 02:06 AM (#4698678)
Reddick was clearly trying to draw a charge by flopping instead of playing defense, which is about my least favorite basketball play. No sympathy here.
   955. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: May 02, 2014 at 02:16 AM (#4698680)
Reddick was clearly trying to draw a charge by flopping instead of playing defense, which is about my least favorite basketball play. No sympathy here.


Yeah, I think if Barnes doesn't lower his shoulder it's definitely a blocking foul. I think a no-call could have been fine so Reddick isn't rewarded for that.
   956. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: May 02, 2014 at 09:17 AM (#4698729)
per Haberstroh:
Hibbert PER, pre-AS: 16.1
Post A-S: 8.9
Postseason: 0.7
   957. Spivey Posted: May 02, 2014 at 09:26 AM (#4698732)
I didn't realize the Hibbert futility has been going on so long. What happened? Is he hurt?
   958. jmurph Posted: May 02, 2014 at 09:41 AM (#4698743)
I'm going to be disappointed if Indiana, OKC, and the Spurs all advance. I was really looking forward to the potential chaos that looked likely a few games ago.
   959. Booey Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:04 AM (#4698817)
I thought it could have gone either way.


That's what I thought too. Barnes lowered his shoulder and tried to run through Reddick, so I'd have been fine with an offensive foul. But Reddick WAS still moving, so a blocking foul was a defensible* call as well. Since both players were in some kind of violation, a no-call would've worked too. How's that for a non-definitive answer? :-)

My thoughts generally mirror #954, though. I have an irrational hatred towards flopping, so if I thought a player was guilty of it, I'd call the foul on him pretty much every time.


* Is the word 'defensible' or 'defendable'? I can never remember.
   960. The District Attorney Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:35 AM (#4698839)
Mike Conley:
“I’m in pain…It was excruciating to try to run…

It may all come down to Mr. Udreliable...
   961. Publius Publicola Posted: May 02, 2014 at 12:01 PM (#4698853)
Defensible is correct.
   962. Publius Publicola Posted: May 02, 2014 at 12:04 PM (#4698856)
My theory on Hibbert is that he dislikes some of his teammates so much, his head and heart aren't in the game.
   963. smileyy Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:02 PM (#4698908)
(Paul) George's availability for Game 7 is in question after he left the bench and took several steps onto the court during an altercation between teammate George Hill and Hawks forward Mike Scott late in the second quarter.


Huh. That's kinda underplayed.
   964. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:12 PM (#4698925)
Yeah it is.
pleasepleasepleasesuspendhim
   965. smileyy Posted: May 02, 2014 at 01:52 PM (#4698978)
I get why that rule is there, but it really needs to be changed to a fine.
   966. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 02:03 PM (#4698997)
As a Knicks fan, I hope everyone who even contemplated getting off the bench is suspended. It's only fair.
   967. Booey Posted: May 02, 2014 at 02:23 PM (#4699018)
As a Knicks fan, I hope everyone who even contemplated getting off the bench is suspended. It's only fair.


I think Suns fans might agree.
   968. AROM Posted: May 02, 2014 at 02:23 PM (#4699019)
I get why that rule is there, but it really needs to be changed to a fine.


Didn't work. The rule is what it is because fines weren't enough to keep butts attached to benches once the fists flew.
   969. Booey Posted: May 02, 2014 at 02:31 PM (#4699028)
My theory on Hibbert is that he dislikes some of his teammates so much, his head and heart aren't in the game.


I think he's still just depressed that Tom Haverford and Jean Ralphio's Entertainment 720 business went belly up. He and Detlef Schrempf had a good thing going there.

No Parks and Recreation fans?
   970. sardonic Posted: May 02, 2014 at 03:41 PM (#4699096)
There's no gut punch like seeing a new Zach Lowe NBA playoffs feature, reading through previews of three different series before realizing that he didn't actually cover your team's Game 7.
   971. Moses Taylor World Re-Tour 2.0: Warszawa Posted: May 02, 2014 at 04:55 PM (#4699167)
I do agree that it's really weird to have Miller commentating.

Yes, he's the worst. And I'm not just talking about him calling Jackson's team or Pacers games.
   972. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: May 02, 2014 at 04:56 PM (#4699168)
It's somewhere else! http://grantland.com/the-triangle/sounding-the-game-7-alarm/
   973. andrewberg Posted: May 02, 2014 at 05:27 PM (#4699193)
I think he's still just depressed that Tom Haverford and Jean Ralphio's Entertainment 720 business went belly up. He and Detlef Schrempf had a good thing going there.

No Parks and Recreation fans?


I'm with you. I already tried to figure out of there was a Parks and Rec connection to his struggles, but I couldn't pinpoint one.
   974. rr Posted: May 02, 2014 at 05:29 PM (#4699198)
Well, Lowe and Pelton et al have a pretty big workload--aren't usually this many G7s in RD 1. ;-)
   975. Publius Publicola Posted: May 02, 2014 at 05:33 PM (#4699201)
I just learned that Bruins fans tweeted a ton of racist remarks last night after their team was beaten by a black player from the Canadiens.

Whoa, color me shocked!

FYI, Bruins fans have been, are, and always will be the morons of the New England fanbase.
   976. Publius Publicola Posted: May 02, 2014 at 05:35 PM (#4699205)
I think he's still just depressed that Tom Haverford and Jean Ralphio's Entertainment 720 business went belly up.


I'm obviously missing something because I don't get this.

A little help?
   977. theboyqueen Posted: May 02, 2014 at 05:53 PM (#4699218)
It's somewhere else! http://grantland.com/the-triangle/sounding-the-game-7-alarm/


Jesus, what is the precedent for Zach Lowe? Has any writer in any sport ever done what he is doing?
   978. Kurt Posted: May 02, 2014 at 06:08 PM (#4699226)
First name I can think of is Paul Zimmerman - I really wish his prime had come during the Internet age.
   979. Moses Taylor World Re-Tour 2.0: Warszawa Posted: May 02, 2014 at 06:13 PM (#4699227)
Wowzers:

The Grizzlies' Zach Randolph has been suspended for Game 7 vs. OKC for punching Steven Adams, NBA announces.
   980. Publius Publicola Posted: May 02, 2014 at 06:24 PM (#4699232)
Here's the video:
Randolph suspended one game

He deserves the penalty. Funny that. It looks like James Johnson wants to slap skin after the punch.
   981. theboyqueen Posted: May 02, 2014 at 06:30 PM (#4699236)
First name I can think of is Paul Zimmerman - I really wish his prime had come during the Internet age.


Same incredible observation skills, but that coupled with the immense output is what makes Lowe even more amazing.
   982. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: May 02, 2014 at 06:31 PM (#4699237)
Really stupid by Randolph. Can't argue with the suspension.

It also sounds like George won't be suspended.
   983. Booey Posted: May 02, 2014 at 06:58 PM (#4699249)
I think he's still just depressed that Tom Haverford and Jean Ralphio's Entertainment 720 business went belly up.

I'm obviously missing something because I don't get this.

A little help?


Heh. Hibbert and Detlef Schrempf guest starred for a few episodes on the show Parks and Recreation. They were hired as celebrity guests to help promote the owners business, which was...well, sort of a nightclub, but no one was ever really sure what the business was supposed to be or do, so it ended up going under. Last time Hibbert was on the show was to tell the owner that he still owed him money.

So yeah, that's totally what's going on with Roy Hibbert. :-)
   984. Kurt Posted: May 02, 2014 at 07:00 PM (#4699251)
Same incredible observation skills, but that coupled with the immense output is what makes Lowe even more amazing.


Like I said (or at least intimated), in part that's because it's 2014. Zimmerman *loved* football, if he had been employed by Grantland rather than a weekly magazine I have no doubt his output would have been ramped way up.

Not argiung with your main point about the amazingness of Lowe, obviously.
   985. Moses Taylor World Re-Tour 2.0: Warszawa Posted: May 02, 2014 at 08:56 PM (#4699299)
Heh.
   986. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: May 02, 2014 at 09:17 PM (#4699311)
I honestly don't know what's funnier about the NBA store commercial that's been playing: the fact that Carlos Boozer is the guy they chose to play defense, or the fact that Brandon Jennings dribbles aimlessly for 10 seconds before launching a 3.
   987. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: May 02, 2014 at 10:01 PM (#4699340)
I know sometimes he hits these, but Manu has taken a lot of really awful shots today.

EDIT: I guess he's only taken 6. I feel like most of those were in the 3rd quarter and egregious.
   988. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 10:42 PM (#4699357)
To answer my earlier question, the record for most Game 7s in a single POSTSEASON...is 5. There are 24 seconds left in Spurs-Mavs. If Mavs hold on to their 4 point lead that will lock in 5 Games 7s in this year's first round. This is undoubtedly the best first round ever.
   989. King Mekong Posted: May 02, 2014 at 10:49 PM (#4699361)
Super frustrating game. Crazy finish.
   990. Maxwn Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:00 PM (#4699364)
Its funny given the conversation we had here a couple of days ago, but the Spurs ran what looked like a variant of the Laettner play just now. Having seen it, I think I was right the other day that it would be exceedingly difficult to complete that pass against NBA opposition. The guy guarding the inbounds man made him have to throw the ball too high and that gave all the Mavs time to converge on the pass and break it up. I guess it worked out ok for SAS since the mavs didn't intercept it clean but knocked it out with a little time left. But I think you probably better off overall trying to hit a guy in the backcourt while he's on the move towards midcourt and let him get a little momentum behind his heave from half-court. NBA guys can hit that shot occasionally. Seeing how the mavs converged on that pass, I'm not sure you can complete it successfully 1 time in 50 against NBA defenders.
   991. Maxwn Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:09 PM (#4699365)
It sucks about Z-Bo. I didn't get to see the game and I still don't really know what happened, but sounds like he earned it fair and square.

What's funny is that Bill Simmons called that exactly before the series. He was on Chris Vernon's show in Memphis a week or so ago and told him that he'd like to bet a lot of money on Z-Bo punching Steven Adams before the series was over and damned if he didn't. If twitter can be believed, this is something like the 4th or 5th guy to get tossed or suspended for an incident with Adams. He must have a knack for pissing people off.

I guess the Grizz are probably in trouble. Z-Bos gone and Conley is banged up. They shouldn't have let them steal Game 4. But you never know. Maybe Gasol will go for 40 or Tony will get 27. TA did that a couple of years ago against OKC in one of the games that established his legend amongst Memphians, so maybe he has another game like that in him somewhere. Given the way this series has gone so far, I guess I wouldn't really rule anything out.
   992. Booey Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:09 PM (#4699367)
#988 - Yeah. I love that we've never had 3 game 7's in a single day before in NBA history, but if the Rockets win tonight (and they're looking good right now), it'll happen 2 days in a row.

Edit: Or, what you said in 947, only it's closer to reality now.
   993. Booey Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:13 PM (#4699368)
I guess the Grizz are probably in trouble. Z-Bos gone and Conley is banged up. They shouldn't have let them steal Game 4.


Now you're just being greedy. ;-)

They've played 4 OT games and the Grizzlies won 3 of them. I think Memphis has more reason to feel fortunate they're still in it than the Thunder do.

Great, great series though.
   994. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:18 PM (#4699369)
Its funny given the conversation we had here a couple of days ago, but the Spurs ran what looked like a variant of the Laettner play just now. Having seen it, I think I was right the other day that it would be exceedingly difficult to complete that pass against NBA opposition. The guy guarding the inbounds man made him have to throw the ball too high and that gave all the Mavs time to converge on the pass and break it up. I guess it worked out ok for SAS since the mavs didn't intercept it clean but knocked it out with a little time left. But I think you probably better off overall trying to hit a guy in the backcourt while he's on the move towards midcourt and let him get a little momentum behind his heave from half-court. NBA guys can hit that shot occasionally. Seeing how the mavs converged on that pass, I'm not sure you can complete it successfully 1 time in 50 against NBA defenders.

Helps that the Spurs had 6 guys on the court.
   995. Srul Itza Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:25 PM (#4699370)
To answer my earlier question, the record for most Game 7s in a single POSTSEASON...is 5.



I was just wondering that, and after the Spurs-Mavs game was over, came here to ask. So we are at 5, and counting -- if Houston wins, there will already be 6 just in this first round. Good Lord.
   996. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:25 PM (#4699371)
There have been some really ticky-tack fouls called in HOU-POR so far, both ways.

[994] Part of me wonders if that was on purpose.
   997. Maxwn Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:42 PM (#4699376)
Now you're just being greedy. ;-)

They've played 4 OT games and the Grizzlies won 3 of them. I think Memphis has more reason to feel fortunate they're still in it than the Thunder do.

Eh, maybe in the abstract. I get why you would say that, but there are pretty good arguments that Mem should never have let OKC get to OT in any of those games. 2 of the games MEM won in OT took near-miracles and some real stupidity by the Grizz to even get to OT. And the Grizz had a 5 pt lead with a 1:20 to play in Game 4 and shot 56% from the line in that game.

I'm not really saying OKC is lucky to be in it, but I don't really think Memphis should feel fortunate to be in it either. If you change nothing about games 2-5 other than Memphis doesn't give up any stupid 4-pt plays and they make their free throws in Game 4 at just a 60% clip, the Grizz win all 4 games with probably only game 5 going to OT. That to me is a team that should be pissed they let a team off the hook and not one that should happy they are still around.

This isn't me wishing for a few more shots to drop in or crying about refs or anything. I'm just pointing out that if the Grizz did things that I think most people agree that a team "should" do,in a normative sense, namely avoid 4-pt plays and make your FTs at some sort of semi-plausible rate, they could have won in 5.

They are definitely fortunate to have won 3 out of 4 OT games. That part is true, but it does not therefore imply that they are fortunate to be in the series at this point because for at least some sense of the word should, they "should" have won all 4 of those games in the first place. If they drop this series tomorrow they should be pissed about missed opportunities, not feeling lucky they made it to 7 at all.
   998. Maxwn Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:49 PM (#4699378)
Helps that the Spurs had 6 guys on the court.

Man that strengthens my claim even more. If you can't complete that pass in the NBA with 6 damn guys, it is not relly a viable option.
   999. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: May 03, 2014 at 12:53 AM (#4699408)
Wes Matthews is playing an awful game, mostly invisible and when he's shooting he's been way off.
   1000. sardonic Posted: May 03, 2014 at 12:56 AM (#4699409)
That really was quite a block by Howard. Do you guys think that Harden knows how bad he is at defense and doesn't care, is absolutely incapable of being any better than he is despite his best efforts, or is unaware of how his actions impact his teammates?
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