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OT: NBA Monthly Thread - February 2013

I estimate only 10-12 Primates care about the NBA, but with our own thread, we won’t detract from what this site is really about: abstinence and William Howard Taft.

The District Attorney Posted: February 02, 2013 at 11:56 AM | 1151 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1001. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: February 27, 2013 at 03:02 PM (#4377119)
I use chrome as well - but my only double posts have been w/ my phone (safari).
   1002. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: February 27, 2013 at 03:20 PM (#4377129)
That was the first time it happened to me. Using Chrome, but no double posts on my phone version.

---

Sheed has a broken foot. Season, and most likely career, done.
   1003. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: February 27, 2013 at 03:35 PM (#4377145)
My double posts involve user error.

Vaya con dios, Sheed.
   1004. Bitter Mouse Posted: February 27, 2013 at 04:18 PM (#4377196)
i think that's exactly what the NBA's soft cap/luxury tax system was designed to do.


I would like it better (and think it would function better) if there was a team cap and not an individual player cap. Then you have to decide just how much of your cap you want Lebron to take up rather than just offering the max (which he is obviously worth much more than).
   1005. steagles Posted: February 27, 2013 at 04:27 PM (#4377215)
zach lowe wrote a column on the sixers for grantland. there's not much new there, but this is a kind of interesting line of thought:

Philadelphia could have leveled the Bulls with the same exact poison-pill offer — a short-term, three-year deal — through which Houston pried away Omer Asik.
at the time, the sixers had iguodala and jrue holiday, two guys who are among the best in the NBA in defending their positions. if you add asik to that (and it's worth noting that he's signed to a contract that pays him less per year than the combination of kwame brown and spencer hawes), then at the very least you have a top 5, top 3 defense in your pocket.

the offense would look terrible, mind you, but the offense the sixers have now looks terrible, so you're not losing much.
   1006. The District Attorney Posted: February 27, 2013 at 04:34 PM (#4377224)
@the_ironsheik: THE @SixersCEOAdam you insult all your fans you can go #### yourself i will beat the #### out of you if i see you
   1007. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 27, 2013 at 04:44 PM (#4377235)
I would like it better (and think it would function better) if there was a team cap and not an individual player cap. Then you have to decide just how much of your cap you want Lebron to take up rather than just offering the max (which he is obviously worth much more than).

Further magnifying the damage you can do with a single mistake!
   1008. Bitter Mouse Posted: February 27, 2013 at 04:57 PM (#4377241)
Further magnifying the damage you can do with a single mistake!


Feature, not bug (and I say that as a T-Wolves fan).
   1009. smileyy Posted: February 27, 2013 at 05:24 PM (#4377265)
[1008] Are you talking about the Garnett contract, in the pre-individual-max era? Or just Twolves mistakes in general?
   1010. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: February 27, 2013 at 06:56 PM (#4377305)
Hibbert and Lee both get one game. Seems fair to me.
   1011. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: February 27, 2013 at 08:22 PM (#4377333)
For jimmy... Jajuan Johnson was traded again - the #1 pick in the d league draft is on his 3rd team this season.
   1012. RollingWave Posted: February 27, 2013 at 10:17 PM (#4377380)
Houston and Bucks tied at half time, boy Robinson is playing bad right now, 3 PF while doing very little (2 points, 1 reb 1 assist and 0-2 FT. ) Not sure why McHale played him so much right now when he seem to have little idea of where he's going on the floor at this point, especially when in Comparison Montejunas have been playing great. (7 pt / 3 ass / 4 reb in 16 min)
   1013. Spivey Posted: February 27, 2013 at 10:35 PM (#4377388)
Harden is so good at using his body in the lane. I'll admit coming out of college I underrated his athleticism because of the undershirt.
   1014. Spivey Posted: February 27, 2013 at 10:38 PM (#4377393)
Asik is an incredible rebounder.
   1015. Maxwn Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:19 PM (#4377410)
I am fairly certain the Grizzlies just had their worst and best defensive quarters of the year in the same game tonight. The game opened with the Mavs on a 14-2 run, I think it took the Grizz like 8 mins to make a FG. 1Q ended 38-19 Mavs, then Mavs by 13 at the half. Then the Grizz opened the 3rd on a 20-0 run, ended up outscoring DAL 24-5 in the 3rd. I know the 5 in the 3rd is a season best because Hollinger tweeted that it was a franchise record. I don't know about the 38 in the 1st, but if somebody's hung 40 on them in a qtr this season, I don't remember it.
   1016. Bitter Mouse Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:22 PM (#4377412)
[1008] Are you talking about the Garnett contract, in the pre-individual-max era? Or just Twolves mistakes in general?


Mistakes in general.
   1017. RollingWave Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:24 PM (#4377413)
OMG WTF BBQ

Monte Ellis a completely off balance 1 hand random put up from way beyond the arc at the buzzer for the win.
   1018. Maxwn Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:25 PM (#4377414)
Steph Curry is feeling it tonight, 49 on 26 shots with like 5 left in the 4th. Keeping GSW in it.
   1019. Maxwn Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:27 PM (#4377417)
I tell you what, the Thabeet pick is the gift that keeps on giving. Several times a year, I look at a GSW or HOU boxscore, and think "son of a #####."
   1020. Spivey Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:27 PM (#4377418)
That was crazy. I missed the last 3 minutes of the Bucks game for Top Chef, but I flipped back to see a replay of the final play. That was ridiculous. Monta Ellis is not a max player. But he's good.
   1021. jmurph Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:29 PM (#4377420)
Steph Curry is feeling it tonight, 49 on 26 shots with like 5 left in the 4th. Keeping GSW in it.


The pull up 3 on the break he just hit was filthy. The net barely moved. Who shoots 10-12 from 3? That's basically stupid.
   1022. Maxwn Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:33 PM (#4377422)
Who shoots 10-12 from 3?

No one. Curry shoots 11-13.
   1023. Maxwn Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:38 PM (#4377424)
Curry did just get blocked by Ray Felton, which I'm pretty sure takes like 20 pts off the great-game-o-meter.
   1024. Maxwn Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:45 PM (#4377427)
This is totally 20-20 hindsight and all, but I'm going to say that GSW's crunch time offense tonight should have just been Curry taking heat-check 3s instead of all this running plays and trying to get open crap that they did instead.
   1025. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:57 PM (#4377432)
Curry was awesome tonight but let's not forget about Chandler. 28 rebounds is pretty impressive even if David Lee wasn't playing.
   1026. robinred Posted: February 28, 2013 at 12:02 AM (#4377436)
This is totally 20-20 hindsight and all, but I'm going to say that GSW's crunch time offense tonight should have just been Curry taking heat-check 3s instead of all this running plays and trying to get open crap that they did instead


So, you are sort of the anti-Abbott?
   1027. Maxwn Posted: February 28, 2013 at 12:05 AM (#4377437)
So, you are sort of the anti-Abbott?

Maybe tonight. I should mention that the plays they were running weren't very good. Maybe plays is the wrong word.
   1028. Spivey Posted: February 28, 2013 at 12:10 AM (#4377440)
28 rebounds is insane. Especially when you know that a dozen aren't Love-put-back-specials.

Spurs in OT against the Suns. That's... not expected.
   1029. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: February 28, 2013 at 12:14 AM (#4377441)
I'm getting a kick out of the Jazz announcers doing everything they can to avoid calling Jefferson out for leaving Horford open nearly every single possession.
   1030. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: February 28, 2013 at 12:51 AM (#4377450)
That Suns-Spurs overtime was some terrible basketball.
   1031. Booey Posted: February 28, 2013 at 02:12 AM (#4377471)
I'm getting a kick out of the Jazz announcers doing everything they can to avoid calling Jefferson out for leaving Horford open nearly every single possession.


Yeah that game featured some sucky D. Letting Teague drive the lane for layup after layup in the 3rd really bugged me too. I really should do the team a favor and stop attending games; they're 2-4 this season when I've gone, 19-4 at home otherwise. Hard to say no when my boss gives me free lower bowl tickets though.

Luckily the Warriors and Rockets lost as well.
   1032. Maxwn Posted: February 28, 2013 at 02:55 AM (#4377476)
I really should do the team a favor and stop attending games; they're 2-4 this season when I've gone, 19-4 at home otherwise.

Hey Booey, you think you can make the Grizz game on Mar 16th?
   1033. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: February 28, 2013 at 05:28 AM (#4377480)
Just wanted to say that as someone who does not get to see a lot of games (west coast + work late) I really appreciate the game reports from folks here (either from on TV or in person). One of my favorite parts of this thread.
   1034. AROM Posted: February 28, 2013 at 09:07 AM (#4377499)
"Harden is so good at using his body in the lane. I'll admit coming out of college I underrated his athleticism because of the undershirt."

The beard too. Makes him look like someone who played with uncle Drew back in the day.
   1035. AROM Posted: February 28, 2013 at 09:11 AM (#4377500)
You guys know that the pitcher's full name is James Richard Harden?

Good thing he foresaw this, and went by his middle name. Though I guess the Rocket could go by Eddie Harden.
   1036. Bitter Mouse Posted: February 28, 2013 at 09:18 AM (#4377506)
I'm getting a kick out of the Jazz announcers doing everything they can to avoid calling Jefferson out for leaving Horford open nearly every single possession.


Color me shocked Jefferson played bad defense. Up next, water, still wet :)
   1037. Jimmy P Posted: February 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM (#4377634)
For jimmy... Jajuan Johnson was traded again - the #1 pick in the d league draft is on his 3rd team this season.


I'm biased, but I'm really surprised someone hasn't given him another chance in the NBA. He's 6'10" and can block shots. He'll never be a star, or probably even a starter, but I thought he'd get another chance to show he belongs.
   1038. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: February 28, 2013 at 01:18 PM (#4377649)
he's not even playing that well in the minors right now - the last trade was because he was slowly drifting out of the rotation for canton. PER on the season is 14.5, not great. gotta start sticking shots.
   1039. puck Posted: February 28, 2013 at 01:31 PM (#4377657)
   1040. Jimmy P Posted: February 28, 2013 at 01:31 PM (#4377658)
Don't know if anyone's seen this, but adidas has designed some new uniforms for a few schools (KU, Louisville, UCLA, a few more). The sleeves aren't even the worst thing about them.
   1041. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: February 28, 2013 at 01:35 PM (#4377660)
Well, I guess Zubaz is overdue for a comeback.
   1042. smileyy Posted: February 28, 2013 at 01:53 PM (#4377684)
This is totally 20-20 hindsight and all, but I'm going to say that GSW's crunch time offense tonight should have just been Curry taking heat-check 3s instead of all this running plays and trying to get open crap that they did instead.


I wonder if he had flashbacks to the timeout his coach called at the end of Davidson's Elite 8 game. When your entire team is one guy, calling a timeout to let the other team figure out how to stop that one guy seems counterproductive.
   1043. smileyy Posted: February 28, 2013 at 01:54 PM (#4377686)
[1033] Likewise. Also looking forward to maybe going to a ZombieKings game with some Seattle folks here sometime.
   1044. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: February 28, 2013 at 01:55 PM (#4377687)
1040 - i was gonna post that too; egads.
   1045. smileyy Posted: February 28, 2013 at 01:59 PM (#4377691)
[1040] Makes me glad Xavier is a Nike school. As bad as some of Nike's ideas are. Ick.

I could almost defend the Zubaz as a "claw-mark" look for the aggressive mammal-themed schools on that list.
   1046. andrewberg Posted: February 28, 2013 at 02:37 PM (#4377734)
Don't know if anyone's seen this, but adidas has designed some new uniforms for a few schools (KU, Louisville, UCLA, a few more). The sleeves aren't even the worst thing about them.


Georgetown has long been a Jordan brand school, and that has always been a good thing (Carolina, Cincinnati, and I believe one other have also been in the group). They manage to use traditional elements creatively (the Georgetown "ticker-tape" and the Carolina argyle) without turning the jerseys into a clownish spectacle.

Edit- I guess Cincy sold their souls. Maybe their soles too.
   1047. andrewberg Posted: February 28, 2013 at 02:43 PM (#4377742)
Steph Curry: Deadspin has a shot chart and link to a YouTube vid with all 11 3's.


He made all 11 of the threes in the final 3 quarters, which is even more impressive. At first, I was struck by how bad the Knicks defense on the three point line was (Felton overpursuing and jumping wildly at ever pump fake, Amare hedging very weakly on screens), but the deeper you get into that clip, the more unconscious Curry gets. Felton started squaring him up better, not giving him much space to gather, and Chandler did a good job closing out on the hedges, and it made not a damn bit of difference.
   1048. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: February 28, 2013 at 02:47 PM (#4377750)
OMG. Those are the worst I've ever seen. Wow.
   1049. andrewberg Posted: February 28, 2013 at 02:47 PM (#4377751)
Makes me glad Xavier is a Nike school


Not to go all college on everyone, but where do you stand on the Muskies conference affiliation? I have a good friend who went there (class of 05 or 06) so I have always had a soft spot for them. I would love if the Catholic 7 added Xavier, Butler, St. Joe's and about 2 other midwewst-to-east smaller private schools with good academic reputations.
   1050. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: February 28, 2013 at 02:50 PM (#4377755)
I would love if the Catholic 7 added Xavier, Butler, St. Joe's and about 2 other midwewst-to-east smaller private schools with good academic reputations.

I've seen St. Louis University, Dayton, Creighton and VCU suggested for that league too.
   1051. smileyy Posted: February 28, 2013 at 03:13 PM (#4377769)
Xavier is essentially a lock for that new league, if/when it happens -- I'd be shocked (SHOCKED!) if they didn't join/weren't invited. Its a win for both the school and for the new conference. The A-10 has a lot of inconsistency and deadweight in the middle/bottom.

I would be surprised (but not shocked) if Butler and VCU weren't added -- it'd be a similar win/win for those schools to be included too. There's a reason the A-10 wanted them (and they wanted the A-10). Without Xavier and Temple, some of the shine comes off of the A-10.

SLU has a good fit too -- private Catholic school, successful basketball program (though with post-Majerus questions), decent media market.

Dayton, meh. But I might be biased.

There is a college basketball thread, too...
   1052. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: February 28, 2013 at 04:08 PM (#4377808)
This new league is what the A-10 has been trying to be, right? I don't really see how the A-10 will survive as relevant.

With all the recent movement, it's pretty amazing to see that the MVC has survived intact for so long.
   1053. smileyy Posted: February 28, 2013 at 04:16 PM (#4377813)

This new league is what the A-10 has been trying to be, right? I don't really see how the A-10 will survive as relevant.


Basically. But the A-10 won't give up on programs like Fordham or La Salle or Duquesne who haven't been relevant in decades, if ever. St. Bonaventure might get a pass for a few seasons based on their once-in-a-lifetime tournament apperance behind the type of player they might never land again (Andrew Nicholson).

Sure, there's always been top-25 contender outside of Xavier and Temple in the league (GW long ago, Rhode Island and Richmond, Charlotte more recently). But there's only a small set of schools that seem committed to fielding a competitive basketball program -- Xavier, Temple, Butler, St. Louis, VCU. Two of those schools just joined the league (Butler, VCU) and one just left (Temple). The conference doesn't bring a whole lot to the table for those top-end, except for the fact that there's not been any better options for those schools.

The Big East has/had has its deadweight too. But the A-10 doesn't have the strength in the middle to make up for it.

There's probably an argument for a midwest-centric elite basketball conference, but my guess is that there's not enough $$$ there to make it worthwhile.
   1054. andrewberg Posted: February 28, 2013 at 08:18 PM (#4378024)
I hope Minnesota can hang with the Lakers tonight. If not, I can always switch over to watch the giant, stiff center (Olnyk) that they will inevitably end up drafting in the Gonzaga game.
   1055. andrewberg Posted: February 28, 2013 at 08:24 PM (#4378026)
Now there is a report that the catholic 7 will add Xavier + Butler and retain the Big East name. We were fairly prophetic earlier today. Home & home for everyone = 16 game slate. Not bad.
   1056. robinred Posted: February 28, 2013 at 08:25 PM (#4378027)
I hope Minnesota can hang with the Lakers tonight


Pretty much everybody hangs with a team that is 28-30--even last time, the Wolves closed the gap significantly after getting down about 25.

I do not think that the Lakers will make the playoffs, but Utah and Houston both losing home games last night should give them a little boost going into tonight.
   1057. smileyy Posted: February 28, 2013 at 09:07 PM (#4378044)
[1055] There's an unnamed third team in the mix for next year -- rumor has it that its Creighton, which is an interesting geographic choice, and is a team that is up and down.

Also reports that 2 more are added in the following year -- probably schools that can't/don't want to/won't get subsidized to pay the $2M A-10 exit fee to leave on Butler and Xavier's timeline -- SLU, Dayton

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9000502/catholic-7-schools-keep-big-east-name-new-league-next-season-according-sources
   1058. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: February 28, 2013 at 09:13 PM (#4378045)
I hope Minnesota can hang with the Lakers tonight

Pretty much everybody hangs with a team that is 28-30
I was going to say the same thing. In fact, I would actually call this a must-win game for LAL. They can't count on beating any of the top six teams in the West or the top four teams in the East, so these games against bad teams are games they absolutely, positively must own if they're going to have any shot at the playoffs. I keep saying they're not going to make the playoffs, but they're staying close. However, if they can't beat teams like the TWolves when the teams above them are losing, they're close is all they'll get.
   1059. andrewberg Posted: February 28, 2013 at 11:42 PM (#4378106)
I like Noah more and more 23 on 12 fga, 21 Reb, 11 blocks. 100% Hahawes against.
   1060. Booey Posted: February 28, 2013 at 11:43 PM (#4378108)
I really should do the team a favor and stop attending games; they're 2-4 this season when I've gone, 19-4 at home otherwise.


Hey Booey, you think you can make the Grizz game on Mar 16th?


Heh. Not likely. And I already gave you the game on Dec 15th (first I attended this season). Now you're just being greedy. :-p
   1061. Maxwn Posted: March 01, 2013 at 12:55 AM (#4378134)
Aww, come on Booey, I thought you were cool.
   1062. Booey Posted: March 01, 2013 at 02:02 AM (#4378148)
Mail me lower bowl tickets and I'll go. ;-)

   1063. steagles Posted: March 01, 2013 at 02:25 AM (#4378149)
Not to go all college on everyone, but where do you stand on the Muskies conference affiliation? I have a good friend who went there (class of 05 or 06) so I have always had a soft spot for them. I would love if the Catholic 7 added Xavier, Butler, St. Joe's and about 2 other midwewst-to-east smaller private schools with good academic reputations.
there is no way that villanova will allow another philly school into the new conference.
I like Noah more and more 23 on 12 fga, 21 Reb, 11 blocks. 100% Hahawes against.
that wasn't even a particularly bad game for hawes.
   1064. Maxwn Posted: March 01, 2013 at 02:30 AM (#4378150)
[1062] Well, I would, but I'm a grad student now. I ain't got that kind of money. I'm not even sure I can afford to send you seats up in the rafters. Maybe I'll email Hollinger and see if the Grizz want to send you to the game. "John, I know it's a small sample size, but the Jazz are way worse at home when this guy is in the building. Might be worth a shot."

I did check the pricing out of curiosity and noticed the Grizzlies tickets are lot more expensive than all the crappy teams you play for the rest of the year. That's when I knew that we finally made it.

The only teams that are more expensive are the Knicks and the Nets. I was going to be a bit irritated about the Nets but then I remembered about the Deron Williams thing, so I'm going to assume its so you can all go cheer him or boo him or whatever Utahians(Utahites? Utahers?) do with former players who leave under a cloud.
   1065. RollingWave Posted: March 01, 2013 at 02:40 AM (#4378151)
Lakers win, they somehow managed with a 8 man rotation most of the game. so now they're 2 back from Hou and 2.5 from the Jazz.

   1066. robinred Posted: March 01, 2013 at 03:29 AM (#4378153)
Couple of points about the Lakers that are a little under the national radar/snickering/schadenfreude/deathwatch:

1. The injuries to Gasol and Hill have actually helped D'Antoni. He likes to play 8 guys, and with Gasol and Hill gone and Blake back, he now has a pretty obvious 8-man rotation by default, albeit one with no one who resembles a backup 5. And while Jamison and Clark are certainly not better players than Gasol and Hill are, they actually fit the MDA system better and fit around Howard better than the other two do.
2. The Lakers are now 12-5 since they hit what will presumably be their low point at 17-25, but as Dave McMenamin pointed out, the five losses have come by an average of 14.4 points. So, as their record has improved, their point differential has gotten worse, and their actual and PYTH records are on a regression/collision course. Going into the Minnesota game, they were at + 0.9 with a PYTH of 31-27. I have tried to point out to people at the Lakers board I post at that the Lakers are probably not really any better than the teams they are chasing, and that is one reason among several that while I do think that (barring an injury to Bryant, Howard, or Nash) they will climb over .500 and win 42-45 games, I also think that they will end up 1-3 games short of the 8th spot.

As something of an aside, when Jackson was here, many hardcore Lakers fans, including me sometimes, would complain about how his rotations were absolutely set in stone, to the point of playing Gasol and Bryant in fourth quarters of blowouts, and of course almost always finishing games with Fisher, no matter how badly Fisher was playing. Some may recall that back in 2009, Phil didn't replace Walton with Ariza until Walton came to Jackson and asked him to (Jackson probably would have done it anyway, but still). Phil once said that he had such set rotations in part because he believed, in his Zennish way, that guys' bodies got into certain muscle memory/rhythms based on when and how they were used, and he didn't want to disrupt that. I was not that convinced.

But after watching nearly two years of Brown and D'Antoni, I have come to see that I think that I prefer my team to have a more set rotation. This is not to say that you want an inflexible coach; as with anything else, there needs to be a balance. And, obviously, both Brown and D'Antoni have dealt with high expectations, Swiss cheese rosters, injuries, age, and other problems. But it seems to me you may get more out of marginal guys if they have set roles, and the team is structured better that way, even if you sometimes get burned by bad matchups. This may vary with personnel as well--maybe top-heavy teams, like the Lakers, do better with a set rotation of the marginal guys.
   1067. Honkie Kong Posted: March 01, 2013 at 06:27 AM (#4378161)
But after watching nearly two years of Brown and D'Antoni, I have come to see that I think that I prefer my team to have a more set rotation. This is not to say that you want an inflexible coach; as with anything else, there needs to be a balance. And, obviously, both Brown and D'Antoni have dealt with high expectations, Swiss cheese rosters, injuries, age, and other problems. But it seems to me you may get more out of marginal guys if they have set roles, and the team is structured better that way, even if you sometimes get burned by bad matchups. This may vary with personnel as well--maybe top-heavy teams, like the Lakers, do better with a set rotation of the marginal guys.


This is the reasoning managers use for the uber fixed role bullpen usage in the regular season. That over the long season, the advantage gained by using your best reliever in high leverage situations is mitigated by giving everyone a fixed role in the bullpen, so they know when to get ready mentally and physically.
Whenever random veteran reliever has a randomly great season, there is a high probability you will hear about how he clearly knew his role and was trusted to it et al..

Think when you have marginal talent ( or knucklehead talent ), it is a good way to maximise the potential of these players. This is your role. Don't think. Focus on what you do well and what has gotten you in this role.
   1068. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: March 01, 2013 at 07:03 AM (#4378165)
Matt Moore with a great interview/piece on LARRY SANDERS! and his defensive work, similar to the Igoudala one from a few weeks ago.
   1069. AROM Posted: March 01, 2013 at 10:20 AM (#4378225)
I figure the Lakers need at least 44 wins to get the 8 seed. That would mean finishing 15-8 or better. Sounds tough but I think they can do it, mostly because I believe in Kobe's competitive fire. But he may have to come damn near close to killing himself on the court to get there, and have nothing left for the 4 game sweep by the Thunder.
   1070. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: March 01, 2013 at 10:45 AM (#4378242)
But he may have to come damn near close to killing himself on the court to get there, and have nothing left for the 4 game sweep by the Thunder


Not sure if you're saying the Lakers will get the 7 seed or you don't think the Spurs will hold on to their lead in the standings.
   1071. AROM Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:09 AM (#4378266)
I think the second is more likely than the first. Forgot the Spurs were in the #1 seed. Either way I'd expect one of those teams to sweep the Lakers in the first round because 1) they are better and 2) Lakers will have to burn themselves out just to get there.
   1072. Booey Posted: March 01, 2013 at 01:25 PM (#4378363)
I did check the pricing out of curiosity and noticed the Grizzlies tickets are lot more expensive than all the crappy teams you play for the rest of the year. That's when I knew that we finally made it.

The only teams that are more expensive are the Knicks and the Nets.


Grizz, Knicks, and Nets are all more expensive than the Thunder? That surprises me (well, not the Knicks so much).

I was going to be a bit irritated about the Nets but then I remembered about the Deron Williams thing, so I'm going to assume its so you can all go cheer him or boo him or whatever Utahians(Utahites? Utahers?) do with former players who leave under a cloud.

Utahns is what we call ourselves. Unfortunately Utahrds is what people who live here but came from other states seem to prefer calling us.

DWill will get an equal mix of cheers and boo's, I assume. A lot of us - including me - still like him (he's still featured in an advertisement on a billboard beside a highway in north Salt Lake for some reason), but that just makes us want to beat him even more. I do find his o-fer against the Jazz since joining the Nets amusing.
   1073. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: March 01, 2013 at 03:38 PM (#4378467)
I like Noah more and more 23 on 12 fga, 21 Reb, 11 blocks. 100% Hahawes against.

Damn, missed this one cause I was on a flight.
   1074. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: March 01, 2013 at 03:41 PM (#4378473)
B-Simm has an interesting column on the best league's best bargains. I like the idea of LeBron making $75MM a year.
   1075. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: March 01, 2013 at 03:57 PM (#4378486)
Bulls signing Lou Amundson to a 10 day deal. They're extremely thin up front with Gibson hurt and Mohammed legally dead.
   1076. jmurph Posted: March 01, 2013 at 04:12 PM (#4378496)
B-Simm has an interesting column on the best league's best bargains.


I like the man, but Simmons did a lot of water-carrying for the BS claims of the owners leading up to and during the lockout, so his first paragraph is pretty ####### rich.
   1077. andrewberg Posted: March 01, 2013 at 05:37 PM (#4378599)
I like the man, but Simmons did a lot of water-carrying for the BS claims of the owners leading up to and during the lockout, so his first paragraph is pretty ####### rich.


No kidding. He's saying "they fooled us! They lied to us! They gave us bad info!" when he should be saying "they fooled me! They got me to lie for them by giving me access! I took their bad info at face value because I wanted the scoop!" He is not the first to do it, he will not be the last, but that is what happened.
   1078. Maxwn Posted: March 01, 2013 at 06:20 PM (#4378628)
Grizz, Knicks, and Nets are all more expensive than the Thunder? That surprises me (well, not the Knicks so much).

Nope, I missed the Thunder when I looked before. They appear to be priced on the same tier as the Knicks and Nets. Grizz look to be like 1 tier down, so that the best tickets to their games are ~$20 cheaper than Knicks/Nets/Thunder.
   1079. Jimmy P Posted: March 01, 2013 at 06:55 PM (#4378648)
"they fooled me! They got me to lie for them by giving me access! I took their bad info at face value because I wanted the scoop!"

He can't really be this gullible, can he? Every sports league ever has said this. The NHL owners the last three times, the MLB ones in 94, the NFL numerous times.

I know he wants to write the column, but acting like he wasn't shoveling the #### during the lockout makes him much less credible. Which I guess is par for the course since he's on a tv show with Magic and Wilbon.
   1080. robinred Posted: March 01, 2013 at 07:09 PM (#4378663)
+1 to jmurph, berg, and Jimmy P, with the minor add that, as I said at the time, I believe that Simmons' own professional evolution into a management role heavily influenced his take on the lockout.

James making 75M sounds fine to me, and although it messes up the Lakers' cap space, I really have no issues with Kobe's pulling in 30 next year.
   1081. Fourth True Outcome Posted: March 01, 2013 at 07:44 PM (#4378674)
I believe that Simmons' own professional evolution into a management role heavily influenced his take on the lockout.


I think this is the key. As I recall, he did a similar job of carrying water for production companies and the status quo during the Writers' Guild strike a few years ago. There are several grains of salt one needs to take with Simmons, but I think the biggest is that anything he says on labor relations tends to slant heavily towards the management side. I think this is also exacerbated by his tendency to believe he knows everything about a situation he has at best partial or biased information on.
   1082. RollingWave Posted: March 01, 2013 at 09:11 PM (#4378698)
i guess people are use to this now, but the Rockets at half time with the Magics is 64:61 ... that's some serious pick up basketball / all star game type ####.

Harden's clearly not himself today though, the bumped knee is probably still bothering him quite a bit.

   1083. Maxwn Posted: March 01, 2013 at 09:42 PM (#4378714)
This is probably going to be a pretty good game in Miami on ESPN. Ought to be 20-16 Grizz when it comes back for the 2Q. It was 20-19 when they left, but there was a Ray Allen 3 that should be coming back due to shot clock violation.
   1084. andrewberg Posted: March 01, 2013 at 10:23 PM (#4378731)
Yeah, fun first half. Very tactical game where both teams line up their stuff and see what works better.
   1085. RollingWave Posted: March 01, 2013 at 10:50 PM (#4378752)
Harden went off in the 4th as Houston mercifully won .

Montejunas in the last couple of games have been really been great on the offensive end, but equally appaling on the defensive end.
   1086. PJ Martinez Posted: March 01, 2013 at 10:58 PM (#4378756)
"These wealthy or used-to-be-wealthy owners don't want to keep losing money just to feed their ego by continuing to own a basketball team."

That's from a November '11 Simmons column. Two years before, he called the NBA the "No Benjamins Association."

So yeah, what everyone else said.
   1087. Spivey Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:35 PM (#4378772)
This game has been outstanding. Wade's played well, Gasol's played great.
   1088. Spivey Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:38 PM (#4378773)
Memphis' defense with Price now is just filthy.

GASOL!
   1089. Spivey Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:40 PM (#4378774)
LeBron James is so good that 13/7/10 is his worst game of the year.
   1090. PJ Martinez Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:47 PM (#4378776)
"These wealthy or used-to-be-wealthy owners don't want to keep losing money just to feed their ego by continuing to own a basketball team."

That's from a November '11 Simmons column. Two years before, he called the NBA the "No Benjamins Association."

So yeah, what everyone else said.
   1091. Maxwn Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:58 PM (#4378777)
That was a bit of an irritating one to lose, but sometimes Lebron will bury a 3 with 24 left to put you down 4.

I thought Lionel might have gotten caught trying to ride his bench a little too long in the 4th. Think you're going to get them in the next stoppage and then all of sudden there's 5 mins left.

Mostly though, there were just several possessions in the 4th where the Grizz defended great and the Heat either executed something perfectly with the clock winding down or knocked down a pretty tough shot. Such is life.
   1092. Spivey Posted: March 02, 2013 at 12:13 AM (#4378782)
Memphis played Miami toe to toe on the road. Nothing to be ashamed of. You can play pretty well and lose those types of games. It was a great slugfest for a regular season game.
   1093. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: March 02, 2013 at 12:15 AM (#4378784)
Some thoughts on the Heat-Grizzlies game:

The Grizzlies were able to attack Ray Allen on the defensive end more than I've seen from other teams. This isn't earth-shattering news considering his age but Allen doesn't have a lot of athleticism left considering he once competed in a dunk contest.

The Grizzlies guarded LeBron pretty well and I like what Prince added to their game tonight.

Conley was able to create some offense for himself. I think he can fill some of the void left by Gay.

Overall, I think Memphis would play Miami really tough in a 7 game series.
   1094. Maxwn Posted: March 02, 2013 at 12:26 AM (#4378788)
Overall, I think Memphis would play Miami really tough in a 7 game series.

I've kind of thought that for a while. I think they're now either 4-2 or 3-2 against them since the Super-Friends got together. It's probably irrelevant this year, because they'd most likely have to pull off 2 upsets in a row to make the finals, not mention beat a pretty good team in round 1, but if they did all that, I think they might match up as well with Miami as anybody does.

I am increasingly starting to get the feeling that they are not going to be an easy out at all in the playoffs and have a pretty good shot at surprising somebody in the 2nd round. That said, if they can't catch LAC, the Denver series in the 1st round could go either way, I think. They really need to win the next 5.
   1095. Spivey Posted: March 02, 2013 at 12:30 AM (#4378791)
I don't see how Memphis is going to surprise anyone. They're going to probably win 50-55 games and the best defense in the western conference and are the most physical team in the Western Conference. They're the epitome of a team nobody wants to play in the playoffs.
   1096. Maxwn Posted: March 02, 2013 at 12:40 AM (#4378801)
I don't see how Memphis is going to surprise anyone. They're going to probably win 50-55 games and the best defense in the western conference and are the most physical team in the Western Conference. They're the epitome of a team nobody wants to play in the playoffs.

Yeah, fair enough. I agree no teams in the NBA are likely to overlook them. I guess I'm reacting more to the talking heads who seem to have mentally downgraded them now that they don't have someone to create their own 19-footers and make 40% of them (Sorry, Rudy, that's not really fair of me). They've been on national TV a couple times in the last week or so, so I've heard more of that lately I guess.
   1097. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: March 02, 2013 at 12:45 AM (#4378809)
Denver is having one of those games where I vacillate between, "Man, team is fun," and "Their season could end before May Day." Mostly the former.
   1098. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: March 02, 2013 at 12:47 AM (#4378815)
And then Westbrook, from 10 feet past halfcourt, nails an Eff-You 3 just before the halftime buzzer.
   1099. Booey Posted: March 02, 2013 at 01:19 AM (#4378857)
KANTER!!!!!! I'll take 23 points on 10-12 shooting and 22 boards from him any day of the week. It did come against the Bobcats - who pretty much only exist to break other teams losing streaks - so you need to discount the numbers a little, but still...

Jeremy Evans is a better small forward than Marvin Williams. As is Gordon Hayward. And DeMarre Carrol. And Paul Millsap when we go big and Favors plays the 4. So basically, Marvin is our 5th best option at the position, and yet he starts. Sigh...
   1100. Booey Posted: March 02, 2013 at 01:19 AM (#4378858)
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