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OT: NBA Monthly Thread - November 2013

Welcome to the 2013-14 NBA season!

I estimate only 10-12 Primates care about the NBA, but with our own thread, we won’t detract from what this site is really about: trolling.

The District Attorney Posted: November 01, 2013 at 02:49 PM | 1127 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: November 01, 2013 at 03:36 PM (#4592166)
Ugh. I stop in from time to time to get an idea of what is going on but I saw that picture yesterday and it scared the crap out of me. I'd rather not return to looking at it again every few days. See you in December!
   2. Moses Taylor, Moses Taylor Posted: November 01, 2013 at 03:36 PM (#4592167)
Nope.
   3. Moses Taylor, Moses Taylor Posted: November 01, 2013 at 03:40 PM (#4592168)
First flop warning of the year. Wow, that's a doozy of a flop.

---

Heyward and Bledsoe didn't get extensions by yesterday's deadline, so they're now RFA next season. Probably nothing interesting to see there. Kings declined picking up Jimmer's deal, so he's an UFA next year. ####, Marquis Teague even had his option picked up and the Bulls don't even want him.
   4. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: November 01, 2013 at 03:42 PM (#4592170)
Serious question. Why doesn't Steph Curry shoot it every time he's within 35 feet?
   5. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 01, 2013 at 04:01 PM (#4592185)
The Teague pickup really surprised me.
   6. rr Posted: November 01, 2013 at 04:17 PM (#4592204)
Based on that photo, the name of the team should be "New Orleans Insane Rooster Posse."
   7. Jimmy P Posted: November 01, 2013 at 04:52 PM (#4592230)
Here's a column in wired about why everyone should learn computer coding...by Chris Bosh
   8. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: November 01, 2013 at 05:19 PM (#4592248)
I was really, really hoping that this happy chicken would show up in the thread intro. Props to the DA.
   9. Mike Webber Posted: November 01, 2013 at 05:31 PM (#4592255)
Nice KU Jayhawk picture!
   10. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: November 01, 2013 at 06:19 PM (#4592277)
By the way, for those of you who are already having nightmares about Pierre, that is actually one of the tamer pictures.
   11. Bitter Mouse Posted: November 01, 2013 at 07:09 PM (#4592294)
Is it wrong that I look forward every month to finding out what this site is REALLY about? I think the intro to this thread is a great great tradition, and very timely this month. Nice!
   12. RollingWave Posted: November 01, 2013 at 07:24 PM (#4592299)
Pierre is one of those example of something being so bad that it starts to become good right? I mean at least it certainly grabbed everyone's attention.

Patrick Beverley out 10-14 days with injured rib cage, so is the starting job of the Rockets PG a curse now or something? (The curse of Rafer Alston) not only has there been no one that can successfully held the job for 2 full season since Rafer, it seems weird things always happen to them (Lowry getting in a fight with McHale, Brooks winning MOP then sucking, Lin getting hurt in playoffs etc.)
   13. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: November 01, 2013 at 07:31 PM (#4592301)
Pierre:NO Pelicans :: Crazy Crab:SF Giants
   14. andrewberg Posted: November 01, 2013 at 07:34 PM (#4592304)
Pierre is one of those example of something being so bad that it starts to become good right? I mean at least it certainly grabbed everyone's attention.


I would not say it's "bad." It is very unique and unlike anything we are used to seeing as a mascot. Most of them are fairly homogenized and test marketed to get kids to buy stuff. Just like most major cities have converged on a more uniform culture while New Orleans has managed to retain more oddball quirkiness, they seem to have produced a mascot that does not adhere to the conventions set forth by the rest of the country. I'm for it.
   15. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: November 01, 2013 at 07:38 PM (#4592305)
[14] Agree completely. I love Pierre.
   16. andrewberg Posted: November 01, 2013 at 07:42 PM (#4592309)
[14] Agree completely. I love Pierre.


For the first time, the feelings on the mascot have poured over into my opinion on the team. I was already pretty wild about Davis, and now they are becoming one of the bad teams I'm quietly rooting for. Last year, I watched a ton of Kings games thinking they'd end up in Seattle. This year, I'll keep one eye on the Bucks (for potential relocation) and one on the Pelicans (for Pierre and Unibrow).
   17. Booey Posted: November 01, 2013 at 08:32 PM (#4592331)
Pierre looks more like a rapey chicken than a pelican, but I'm kinda digging him too. Course, I'm also the kind of person who slows down and rubbernecks at grisly car accidents, so take that into consideration...
   18. steagles Posted: November 01, 2013 at 08:41 PM (#4592340)
Serious question. Why doesn't Steph Curry shoot it every time he's within 35 feet?
serious answer: because if he has that shot in his back pocket every time the warriors are on offense, you can spend the first 20 seconds of the shot clock working your offense, knowing you can get the ball to curry for the last 4.

   19. Publius Publicola Posted: November 01, 2013 at 08:46 PM (#4592342)
In 17 minutes of play so far, Faverani is 3-4 from the field, with 11 rebounds and 4 blocks. Granted, it's against Milwaukee but he also had 3 blocks on opening night.
   20. Gamingboy Posted: November 01, 2013 at 09:15 PM (#4592352)
KILL THE PELICAN WITH FIRE
   21. RollingWave Posted: November 01, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4592355)
I think if there was a bracket for Sixer AND Magic starting 2-0 and you took it, you probably be a millionaire by now.
   22. steagles Posted: November 01, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4592356)
SIXERS WIN!!! SIXERS WIN!!! BY GOD, THE SIXERS WIN!!!!!!
   23. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: November 01, 2013 at 09:29 PM (#4592359)
Tyreke Evans is off to a great start with the Pelicans.
   24. RollingWave Posted: November 01, 2013 at 09:40 PM (#4592362)
0-7? really Tyreke?
   25. RollingWave Posted: November 01, 2013 at 09:46 PM (#4592365)
Interesting game in Houston, Rockets came out and ran Dallas into the ground, then Dallas went into zone defense and came back to about about 10 points.
   26. steagles Posted: November 01, 2013 at 10:03 PM (#4592368)
Tyreke Evans is off to a great start with the Pelicans.
SCORING
Lead Changes: 1
Times Tied: 0
   27. nick swisher hygiene Posted: November 01, 2013 at 10:05 PM (#4592371)
Granted, it's against Milwaukee

don't #### with the Buck, Publius...
   28. steagles Posted: November 01, 2013 at 10:13 PM (#4592376)
so, with the pelicans at 0-2 and the sixers at 2-0, the sixers not having a single 1st round draft pick this year is beginning to look curiously possible.

if the sixers make the playoffs, they lose their first round pick to miami.
and if the pelicans pick in the top 5, they keep their first round pick.
   29. RollingWave Posted: November 01, 2013 at 10:16 PM (#4592377)
The Thunder's getting their .... pushed into them by the Wolfs
   30. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: November 01, 2013 at 10:18 PM (#4592378)
I'm a wee bit staggered by the T-wolves laying waste to OKC.
   31. PJ Martinez Posted: November 01, 2013 at 10:34 PM (#4592384)
if the sixers make the playoffs...

You can stop there.
   32. RollingWave Posted: November 01, 2013 at 10:47 PM (#4592387)
Rockets win a super ugly game against the Mavs as the entire second half was hack a Dwight really.
   33. RollingWave Posted: November 01, 2013 at 10:59 PM (#4592392)
Blazers also pushing the ....... in on the Nuggets......... IN DENVER , red flag red flag red flag
   34. steagles Posted: November 01, 2013 at 11:10 PM (#4592398)
You can stop there.
who's good in the east? there's miami, indiana, chicago, brooklyn, and maybe the knicks, but beyond that, someone is gonna the playoffs with 35 wins. atlanta? cleveland? detroit? milwaukee? orlando? toronto? washington? maybe one of those teams gets hot and wins 45 games, but even then, someone is going to make the playoffs without deserving and/or wanting to.
   35. RollingWave Posted: November 01, 2013 at 11:14 PM (#4592400)
Atlanta should be pretty safely over 40 games, though after these few games I'm predicting the Sixers to win 60 games or something, what the hell.

Also, Nets beat the Heat
   36. andrewberg Posted: November 01, 2013 at 11:20 PM (#4592402)
Yeah, the Wolves crushed OKC. It was a little weird to watch. They got ahead by about 15, then it was about 20, then in the second half it extended to about 30 and held until they let the scrubs (including Shabazz and Hummel) finish the game. Love and Pekovic are looking really good together. The Pek-Rubio screen is usually the first action with Love in support. If the defense collapses, Love can either shoot or penetrate. Pek is a great roller, and Rubio is running the PNR extremely well.

The most important part of the game was how well they neutralized Durant early. Brewer locked him down and they rushed to double when he touched the ball. It basically took him out of the offense, which left them to play against OKC's other garbage. Ibaka made some shots and Jackson tried to be aggressive, but the rest was just trash. Other than those two, I guess Adams did some worthwhile things on the boards. Jones missed a bunch of defensive rotations, Lamb made some jumpers that were generally in garbage time, Perkins tried to start a fight with Pek, and Fisher is Fisher. They're going to really struggle without Westbrook. Losing him and Martin together made their offense a wreck.

Turiaf took a nasty fall on his arm just a few minutes after he came in and did not come back. They said it was just a bruise, so I guess it looked worse than it was. Dieng got to play and looked good defensively, but he was kind of a mess on offense. Martin has not shot well and has still added value on offense. He should be good to have around. Derrick Williams was also tremendous off the bench in the first half. It was one of the few games where he was both energetic and intelligent.
   37. andrewberg Posted: November 01, 2013 at 11:23 PM (#4592403)
Blazers also pushing the ....... in on the Nuggets......... IN DENVER , red flag red flag red flag


Yeah, it's hard to judge so quickly, but when the evidence confirms our worst suspicions, it seems more meaningful. They're starting 4 guys they didn't start last year (only Lawson is still in the lineup). That's a lot of upheaval to go with a first-time coach.

edit: Robinson and Miller combined for 47 minutes off of the bench and combined for 1 assist.
   38. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 01, 2013 at 11:25 PM (#4592405)
...and Lawson is uncomfortable with the offensive system.
   39. andrewberg Posted: November 01, 2013 at 11:30 PM (#4592408)
...and Lawson is uncomfortable with the offensive system.


Yeah, that's part of what I meant about confirming negative suspicions. Having seen the Flynn-Rambis catastrophe, my antennae are up.
   40. steagles Posted: November 01, 2013 at 11:37 PM (#4592410)
oh, regarding the delay of game calls, it's definitely a bit awkward since an offensive player touching the ball delays play only a few seconds after a made basket, whereas calling the penalty and shooting the FTs will take 30 seconds at least, but the defensive team in transition loses an opportunity to push the pace of play because of those 3 seconds, so despite the clunkiness of the rule (and probably also my explanation) i think it's a good rule.
   41. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 01, 2013 at 11:39 PM (#4592412)
so, is denver pairing lawson and robinson from time to time? tiiiiiiiny backcourt.
   42. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: November 02, 2013 at 12:13 AM (#4592418)
Favor's moves and touch near the basket look much better this year. Hopefully the time he spent training with Malone really did pay off.

   43. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: November 02, 2013 at 12:26 AM (#4592420)
For a poorly played game between two bad teams, this Jazz-Suns game sure has been entertaining. Hayward and Bledsoe just exchanged threes, now Suns up 3 with under a second left.
   44. madvillain Posted: November 02, 2013 at 12:28 AM (#4592422)
Man, this Lakers / Spurs game is sloppy as hell. I've seen a lot of bad basketball early this year and it makes me wonder if we really need to play 7 preseason games. Of course, the league enjoys the extra revenue so much like shortening the season to 72 games (which should happen imo) it's a non starter.
   45. Mark S. is bored Posted: November 02, 2013 at 12:32 AM (#4592423)
Miles Plumlee now has two games as a Sun.

1) 18 pts, 15 reb, 3 blk
2) 13 pts, 13 reb, 3 blk

I'm cautiously curious about him.
   46. kpelton Posted: November 02, 2013 at 12:36 AM (#4592424)
so, is denver pairing lawson and robinson from time to time? tiiiiiiiny backcourt.

Plus occasionally Randy Foye or Andre Miller too, giving new meaning to the term "small forward."
   47. andrewberg Posted: November 02, 2013 at 12:43 AM (#4592430)
Isaiah Thomas went absolutely nuts against the Clippers tonight. The Kings have put up quite a fight and the Clippers have withstood. Much better defensive effort than on opening night.
   48. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: November 02, 2013 at 01:19 AM (#4592437)
The last two minutes of the Lakers game made me sad.
   49. RollingWave Posted: November 02, 2013 at 02:05 AM (#4592445)
Isaiah Thomas went absolutely nuts against the Clippers tonight. The Kings have put up quite a fight and the Clippers have withstood. Much better defensive effort than on opening night.

Thomas is perhaps the single most underrated player in the entire league. people think he's Nate Robinson when he's basically Ty Lawson.


   50. RollingWave Posted: November 02, 2013 at 02:13 AM (#4592449)
6 teams remain undefeated so far

Rockets , Pacers , Spurs, Wolfs
................ Sixers, Magic

did NOT see that coming
   51. andrewberg Posted: November 02, 2013 at 02:20 AM (#4592454)
Thanks for putting the Wolfs with the good teams.
   52. Booey Posted: November 02, 2013 at 02:51 AM (#4592459)
Man, the Jazz desperately need a supporting cast. I'm still in love with the young core - nice double doubles for Kanter (20/12) and Favors (14/17), and a near triple double for Hayward (18 pts, 10 rebs, 8 assts), plus 15 points on 6 of 9 shooting off the bench for Burks (after a 24/6/6 opening game against OKC). But that's it. Everyone else is a nobody or a has been.

I'm really, really hoping Trey Burke returns sooner than expected and plays up to all my unrealistic fanboy dreams. Why can't I have what I want, dammit?
   53. Manny Coon Posted: November 02, 2013 at 03:06 AM (#4592461)
Byron Mullens is such a terrible player.
   54. madvillain Posted: November 02, 2013 at 12:55 PM (#4592572)
New tracking stats.

Isaiah Thomas repping the PNW!

From watching all three of the Heat games so far Lebron is taking "saving it for the playoffs" to a new level. He doesn't even seem engaged in the games mentally or physically.

Brooklyn looked good last night; I'm going to get out ahead of my poor prediction for them and say if everyone stats healthy they are a 55 win team, not 45-50 as I said earlier. Their scoring and length at every position is ridiculous. I can't help but watch and think how much even an aged Johnson or Pierce would help Chicago.

Hell, I don't even think Williams needs to be that good for them to contend, they have more than enough elsewhere.
   55. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: November 02, 2013 at 03:14 PM (#4592666)
Unconscious Nuggets Mascot Lowered To Court In Macabre Display
Rocky, the Denver Nuggets' mascot, was unconscious as he was lowered to the floor before Friday night's Blazers-Nuggets game. Because the harness was hidden, it looked like Rocky had been hanged and presented on the court as an omen for something. It was unsettling.

I've been laughing at this all morning. I'm a bad person.
   56. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: November 02, 2013 at 03:52 PM (#4592689)
Man, the Jazz desperately need a supporting cast. I'm still in love with the young core - nice double doubles for Kanter (20/12) and Favors (14/17), and a near triple double for Hayward (18 pts, 10 rebs, 8 assts), plus 15 points on 6 of 9 shooting off the bench for Burks (after a 24/6/6 opening game against OKC). But that's it. Everyone else is a nobody or a has been.

I'm really, really hoping Trey Burke returns sooner than expected and plays up to all my unrealistic fanboy dreams. Why can't I have what I want, dammit?


I'm alright with the roster as is, at least once Burke is healthy. It's fun to watch our young core, Corbin is basically forced to play them since the veterans are so bad, and they're in a good position to be entertaining while still putting themselves in a good position to get a top pick in a loaded draft.
   57. Maxwn Posted: November 02, 2013 at 04:59 PM (#4592712)
I've been laughing at this all morning. I'm a bad person.

I guess I must be too then. The dancing cheerleaders behind him kill me.
   58. Booey Posted: November 02, 2013 at 05:10 PM (#4592718)
I'm alright with the roster as is, at least once Burke is healthy. It's fun to watch our young core, Corbin is basically forced to play them since the veterans are so bad, and they're in a good position to be entertaining while still putting themselves in a good position to get a top pick in a loaded draft.


Yeah, I get that it's more beneficial in the long run for the Jazz to be bad this year rather than mediocre. It's just hard to actually see. I'm not used to it - they've had just two losing seasons in the last 30 years. Magic said that Laker fans have been spoiled, and that's true, but Jazz fans kinda have too, at least as far as regular season success goes.
   59. Booey Posted: November 02, 2013 at 05:11 PM (#4592719)
I've been laughing at this all morning. I'm a bad person.

I guess I must be too then. The dancing cheerleaders behind him kill me.


Thirded. That was hilarious.
   60. steagles Posted: November 02, 2013 at 08:06 PM (#4592785)
hinrich is really, really awful.
   61. RollingWave Posted: November 02, 2013 at 08:08 PM (#4592786)
Thirded. That was hilarious.


Well it's because he's ok so it's ok to laugh ;) but yeah, that seems to be fortelling the Nuggets' season.

   62. King Mekong Posted: November 02, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4592809)
Thoughts while Leaguepass surfing tonight.

-The Pelicans actually seem like they can mesh.
-The 'brow has such long arms he affects shots all over the place. Definitely seems like he can anchor a defense, though they are currently using him with a more traditional center. They could have a real good defense in a year or two.

-I like the Jazz's young core. Depth seems questionable right now.
-Lin seems to be meshing better with Harden this season.

Any way to look at Sportsvu data for a single player? Or team? I didn't see a way to do that when checking the site earlier today.

edit: Rudy Gobert is tall and has long arms.
   63. The District Attorney Posted: November 02, 2013 at 09:47 PM (#4592814)
WHAT IS HAPPENING???
   64. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 02, 2013 at 09:49 PM (#4592815)
The improbability drive from HGTTG is real and somewhere on the east coast.
   65. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: November 02, 2013 at 09:50 PM (#4592816)
Man I love Kanter. If I go to the game Friday I need to get close enough to him to yell at him that I love him in Turkish.
   66. RollingWave Posted: November 02, 2013 at 09:51 PM (#4592817)
Sixer win again, WTF
   67. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 02, 2013 at 09:53 PM (#4592819)
...and preseason bright spot Anderson has done very, very little.
   68. steagles Posted: November 02, 2013 at 09:56 PM (#4592821)
edit: Rudy Gobert is tall and has long arms.
i wanted the sixers to draft him so damn badly.

...and preseason bright spot Anderson has done very, very little.
team high +17 tonight. he's gonna have to score eventually, but he hasn't hurt the team at all yet.
   69. steagles Posted: November 02, 2013 at 09:59 PM (#4592823)
Sixer win again, WTF
rose shot 4/14 from the field with 8 turnovers.

i'm sure i'll talk more about the sixers hot start later tonight or tomorrow.
   70. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 02, 2013 at 10:08 PM (#4592826)
How has Anderson's d been? (I am a fan of that guy, as you might recall)
Oh - fwiw - I really like what Delaware did as well...

Netw3rk is absolutely killing it w sixers tweets - I've lol'd several times this week.
   71. PJ Martinez Posted: November 02, 2013 at 10:49 PM (#4592832)
Watching Vinny Del Negro on NBA TV. Very strong Michael Scott vibe.
   72. Booey Posted: November 02, 2013 at 10:59 PM (#4592834)
I keep forgetting that Omer Asik is a white guy. Throws me every time I see the Rockets.
   73. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: November 02, 2013 at 11:05 PM (#4592836)
Huge comeback by the Rockets to tie the game after 3 in Utah, but Harden dribbling for 22 seconds before hoisting up a shot is going to get old fast.
   74. Moses Taylor, Moses Taylor Posted: November 02, 2013 at 11:09 PM (#4592839)
if the sixers make the playoffs...

You can stop there.


I see no reason why the Sixers couldn't make a surprising run towards spitting distance of .500 and the 7th/8th seed. I've seen nothing from a healthy Cavs team or Wizards team (or Bucks) so far to say with any confidence they're significantly better than Philly. Detroit should be better, but I still am not crazy about them. I now think Philly is better than Toronto, Charlotte, Boston, and Orlando. So...

Now, they're going to have growing pains with such a young team. Wroten in particular makes some awful decisions. They're not going to shoot as well from 3 as they did tonight (11/22). And they're going to have trouble rebounding, like tonight. But MCW is the real deal. He looks way better than anything I saw from him in college (limited, of course). The most impressive thing to me is that he's already an average NBA defender, which is even more impressive considering the zone stuff in college.

rose shot 4/14 from the field with 8 turnovers.

MCW's length really bothered him tonight. But just like the first 2 games, he's still off. His feet are moving faster than his brain and the rest of his body. His decision making has been sub-par (he's jumping to pass with nowhere to go like he did all the time his rookie season). He's hit a few 3's, but is taking too many and short-arming all his jumpers. His defense is awful. And to top it off, he's not drawing fouls on shots around the rim (I think he's not getting calls, but he's avoiding contact more than in the preason, IMO). Noah is still at half speed. Boozer is going to get garbage points and that's it. Deng is taking way too many 20 footers. Butler has been great* - but is still too hesitant offensively right now. Dunleavy is in a major shooting slump. I think most of this will come around, so I'm not worried. Yet.

*His on ball defense is phenomenal, but he's been ridiculous playing the passing lanes too. His defense has been very Pippen-ish so far.
   75. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: November 02, 2013 at 11:38 PM (#4592847)
A couple of thoughts on the Rockets tonight:

• Harden + Howard == 20 free throws a game, and tons of foul trouble for the other team.

• I'm totally in the tank for him anyways, but Lin's played really well, very under control. 14 points in the 2nd half, 9 in the 4th, and the ball swung around much better when he touched the ball.

• Shooters open everywhere. When their shots are falling, that's a title contender on the floor.
   76. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 02, 2013 at 11:50 PM (#4592851)
I keep forgetting that Omer Asik is a white guy. Throws me every time I see the Rockets.

He's a Turkish guy. Here's the Turkish national team, it's mostly guys who look just as white as Asik does. (he's #12, Enes Kanter is #14)
   77. steagles Posted: November 03, 2013 at 12:23 AM (#4592857)
How has Anderson's d been? (I am a fan of that guy, as you might recall)
he usually defends the third guy (so tonight, MCW took rose, ET took deng, and anderson was primarily guarding butler), but he's big, he's long, he's athletic, he's got good basketball IQ, and i think he's doing a really good job of helping and rotating on D (mainly evidenced by not really noticing him at all on D).

i think it helps that anderson has spent time in both san antonio (where brett brown came from) and houston (where sam hinkie came from), so he's probably got a huge leg up on everyone else on the roster, in terms of knowing what his responsibilities are and where he's supposed to be within both the offense and the defense.

still, he needs to score at some point.
And to top it off, he's not drawing fouls on shots around the rim (I think he's not getting calls, but he's avoiding contact more than in the preason, IMO).
iirc, that was an issue that bulls fans were talking about in this thread after his rookie season.
And they're going to have trouble rebounding, like tonight.
i think that's just the bulls. they'll probably have problems against indiana, too, but there aren't many teams that have three guys who crash the glass as aggressively as noah, boozer and gibson.
(also, it doesn't help that their last two first round picks, nerlens noel and arnett moultrie, are both injured. neither would likely have made much of a difference tonight, but still, it's not good)
But MCW is the real deal. He looks way better than anything I saw from him in college (limited, of course). The most impressive thing to me is that he's already an average NBA defender, which is even more impressive considering the zone stuff in college.
yeah, i wasn't a fan of the sixers drafting him at the time (i wanted shane larkin), but the numbers aren't lying. he looks really, really good.
   78. Booey Posted: November 03, 2013 at 12:25 AM (#4592859)
He's a Turkish guy. Here's the Turkish national team, it's mostly guys who look just as white as Asik does. (he's #12, Enes Kanter is #14)


Yeah, but most of them have Euro-white sounding names. I don't know, the name Omer Asik just doesn't sound that way to me.
   79. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: November 03, 2013 at 12:29 AM (#4592861)
Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks that he looks like Judge Reinhold.
   80. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: November 03, 2013 at 01:06 AM (#4592866)
I met Nate Archibald today...that was pretty ####### awesome.
   81. steagles Posted: November 03, 2013 at 01:08 AM (#4592867)
okay, the sixers play golden state on monday. theoretically, michael carter williams and tony wroten are the ideal defenders to slow down steph curry. they're quick enough to stay in front of him, but they're also big enough to bully him a bit and they have the length to disrupt his jumpshot.
(fun fact: steph curry has an 8'1" standing reach, while michael carter williams has an 11'10" max vert reach)

if the sixers can slow down curry in any meaningful way and pull out a win, it'll start to get hard to jump back on the tanking bandwagon.

another fun angle is the evan turner/andre iguodala dynamic. the way he's playing now, i would not be shocked if turner makes a statement and puts up 40+ points (he's averaging 20PPG, but he hasn't hit a 3PA yet).


more fun facts about the sixers:
the oldest player in the sixers rotation right now is spencer hawes. he's 25. every other player is younger than him.

the smallest guard on their roster is darius morris. he's 6'4. every other guard is bigger than him.
   82. rr Posted: November 03, 2013 at 04:20 AM (#4592879)
another fun angle is the evan turner/andre iguodala dynamic. the way he's playing now, i would not be shocked if turner makes a statement and puts up 40+ points


STEAGLES is back.

Maybe it's Brett Brown, rather than Brad Stevens, who is the NBA's next coaching genius. Or maybe Stevens is just subtly showing his genius by getting Boston out in front in the Wiggins Derby.

Jokes aside, PHX and PHL being a combined 5-0 is a surprise to basically everyone, I think. It certainly is to me. I didn't see either Plumlee or Carter-Williams playing like this out of the gate.

I saw the second half of Houston/Utah, after getting in from an early dinner out. Utah is one of my League Pass teams. A few thoughts:

1. Howard looks the same in Houston as he did here, at least tonight. That isn't a bad thing, but I don't see him ever being as explosive as he was before the injury. He is obviously much happier, at least for now.
2. Houston continues to have ball security problems, as they did last year; Howard adds to those. The guys who turn the ball over a lot also bring a lot to the table, but it might be a problem late in the playoffs.
3. McHale played smallball/Orlando 2009 ball in crunch time, using Chandler Parsons as the nominal four. Parsons was guarding Derrick Favors at times, and Utah tried to exploit it but really couldn't. Houston could use Patrick Patterson. If Houston can make the right add, they can be in the Finals this year, and maybe even if they don't.
4. Utah really needs to get Trey Burke out there.
5. I can see why Utah fans are in love with Gordon Hayward and Enes Kanter.
   83. RollingWave Posted: November 03, 2013 at 07:44 AM (#4592891)
In terms of the Houston turnovers, a large number of it have been traveling violations via Parsons / Harden and to a lesser extend Dwight / Lin.

Parsons especially been trying to dribble and make things happen with the ball a lot more this year (which was ugly in the first 2 game, but pretty good this one. ) which has resulted in a lot of traveling calls, when I watch his long dribbles I'm fearing for a carrying violation pretty much all the time.

It's hard to access their season so far, game 1 they played a super ugly game against the Bobcats that got dragged down to Bobcats pace but still won, game 2 they played their style of ball in the first 1.5 quarter and dominated then the Mavs threw in zones and hack strategy the rest of the way and got ugly, this one was sort of the opposite where they sucked starting out then really turned it on in the 2nd half.

There's a lot of encouraging stuff in there (their point differential is +10 for on thing). but also a lot of things they need to work on, not unlike what we thought going in.

The next game is @ Clippers which should be super interesting for both teams
   84. bob gee Posted: November 03, 2013 at 08:18 AM (#4592895)
did they change the travelling rule this year? i don't remember parsons being called for travels anywhere near as often last year.

lin's had a couple turnovers on penetrating when two people's hands are there, but he's cut down the "jump in the air and throw it somewhere" ones. i think he had one last night.

the lin/harden combo works better when it's not "handoff to harden and everyone to a corner". there was an awesome JPG of that last year as mchale's favorite play.

i also think mchale has to find a way to work in terence jones and another big (smith?). there's going to be some time when they're needed - howard gets injured? one gets foul trouble against a team like memphis? - and you want to get them some burn so that they're ready at that time.

gotta agree with 82, hayward/kanter is a nice base. kanter could shoot outside of 3 feet, even if he did put up an airball early in the game. utah needs someone else other than tinsley - and i admittedly don't know their roster - but tinsley should NOT be starting.

the rox announcers were discussing how fortunate they were to have him as their 3rd string point guard, and one of them said "he'd start for 25 teams in the league". i don't think he'd be *2nd* string on 25 teams in the league. an insane statement, and wasn't called out for it.

the knicks (breen/clyde) and nets (ian eagle + others) are worlds better than the rox announcers.



   85. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: November 03, 2013 at 08:56 AM (#4592902)
Chandler Parsons is the 2nd worst dribbling 3, right there with Luol Deng, IMO. Whenever either of them are asked/decide to put the ball on the floor in a situation requiring 2+ dribbles I anticipate a turnover/sloppily managing to barely retain the ball. IIRC, one of the points of emphasis is palming the ball as well as maintaining the pivot on pump fake drives. I've seen a lot of traveling calls on both in the early going.
   86. rr Posted: November 03, 2013 at 12:46 PM (#4592998)
Houston was 30th in ball protection last year, and Howard has always been pretty turnover-prone, so I doubt that it is something that they can really work on to a great extent. They are 29th through three games this year. Maybe Parsons can work on how to use his pivot foot, but given their personnel and style of play, this is probably baked in to this group. It may get a little better as they get more exp. But, obviously, it is a trade-off that you are happy to make.
   87. RollingWave Posted: November 03, 2013 at 12:52 PM (#4593004)
Palming helps those long wing guys a lot for obvious reason so it's not a surprise that guys like Deng and Parsons are getting killed by those calls most.

Yeah that Brooks comment was idiotic, even at his best he was a super overrated fringe starter, to be fair though, he might be closer to that this year than he's been since 09. I'd guess he might be the starter in Utah and mayyyyybe the Bucks / Celtics right now? (but really, if you listened to the Jazz broadcast this game the Houston guys sounds like saints in comparison, Matt Harping is so bad OMG.). most fun comment of the night "Dwight Howard doesn't have good fundamentals, he doesn't box out, see, Favors got another offensive rebound there" (camera shows Dwight clearly in boxout position, but long bounce rebound ended up in the hands of the guy standing behind him.) and then "Houston has no one to score outside of Harden" (right that explain that they were the top 5 offense last year with Harden scoring 100 or something.) so I'm sure most Houston fans were chuckling when Lin and Parsons dropped 20+ on them.


[86] yeah, they aren't going to be a low turnover team no matter what, if only because of their hectic style, but you'd like them to at least try to get it close to middle of the pack.
   88. Publius Publicola Posted: November 03, 2013 at 02:28 PM (#4593045)
I think it usually takes about 10 games for teams to figure out who they are. Let's give a chance for teams to adjust to the Sixers before we anoit them for anything. There's still a lot of sorting out to go on.
   89. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: November 03, 2013 at 02:41 PM (#4593050)
I met Nate Archibald today...that was pretty ####### awesome


Closest I can come to that was getting to meet Dave Bing here about 10 years ago. He was the featured speaker at some sort of black businessmen's luncheon here, & while I'm neither black nor a businessman, the event was at the motel on the other side of the parking lot from the newspaper where I was metro editor at the time, so I went. Got to talk to him afterward for a couple of minutes.

Highly cool, all the more so because he was very possibly my favorite NBA player (I was & remain, of course, an ABA guy) back in the day.
   90. rr Posted: November 03, 2013 at 02:49 PM (#4593052)
PP-

If that is directed at me, I have not drawn any conclusions about the 76ers yet. I was just joking around. Charlotte started 7-5 last year. I think Moses is being a little premature in putting the 76ers at 7/8 already.
   91. steagles Posted: November 03, 2013 at 03:44 PM (#4593070)
STEAGLES is back.
nope.

not yet, anyway.
   92. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 03, 2013 at 04:38 PM (#4593090)
westbrook to play tonight, per stein. i... have them too low in my west conf predictions, accordingly. :)
   93. rr Posted: November 03, 2013 at 04:41 PM (#4593091)
nope.


Speculating about Evan Turner "making a statement" by going off for over 40 points to show Andre Iguodala who his daddy is? I might be on board with that if Turner were Michael Jordan circa 1992 and Iguodala had smacktalked him, but as it is, well...you're back, dude. At least for now.
   94. Booey Posted: November 03, 2013 at 04:46 PM (#4593092)
utah needs someone else other than tinsley - and i admittedly don't know their roster - but tinsley should NOT be starting.


Trey Burke would be starting if he wasn't injured. But yeah, Tinsley is awful. The roster is so thin though that if anyone gets injured they're basically gonna have to replace their minutes with someone that doesn't even belong in the NBA.

I saw the second half of Houston/Utah, after getting in from an early dinner out.


Ugh. Should've watched the FIRST half, and then gone out to dinner... ;-)
   95. bob gee Posted: November 03, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4593135)
wonder if lebron will cover either wall or beal tonight, esp. if one of them starts to go off...
   96. andrewberg Posted: November 03, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4593136)
RR- you're forgetting that part of being Steagles is that he finds his thoughts rationale and unimpeachable. Go Evan Turner.
   97. Publius Publicola Posted: November 03, 2013 at 06:57 PM (#4593140)
Bob, beal had a big preseason game against Miami. But I think Wade will cover, not LeBron.
   98. Moses Taylor, Moses Taylor Posted: November 03, 2013 at 09:04 PM (#4593177)
I think Moses is being a little premature in putting the 76ers at 7/8 already.

I chose my words very carefully and predicted nothing of the sort.

They are better than we thought, right now, because MCW is playing like a ROY front runner and they're getting production up and down the linuep. Doing what they did against Miami and Chicago wasn't really a fluke, the only question is it enough and sustainable to stay not too far from .500. For the turnover they had, for how young they are, and for having a new first time coach, they might one of the most prepared teams I've seen. Now, they fell behind big to Chicago and Washington, so they're still very beatable. I was very impressed, but am not ready to say they're going to the playoffs. I no longer think they're the worst team in the East though.
   99. rr Posted: November 03, 2013 at 09:12 PM (#4593181)
Here is what you said:

I see no reason why the Sixers couldn't make a surprising run towards spitting distance of .500 and the 7th/8th seed. I've seen nothing from a healthy Cavs team or Wizards team (or Bucks) so far to say with any confidence they're significantly better than Philly. Detroit should be better, but I still am not crazy about them. I now think Philly is better than Toronto, Charlotte, Boston, and Orlando. So...


That is not a flat-out prediction, so I will give you that. "Putting" was not the right word for me to use. It isn't "nothing of the sort", either, though.

   100. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: November 03, 2013 at 09:21 PM (#4593184)
FLIP.
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